Re: [uf-discuss] hcard: additional additional names

2008-08-14 Thread Michael Smethurst
On 13/8/08 10:50, Brian Suda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/8/13, Michael Smethurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 3. Should I just collapse last_name_prefix and last_name into: span class=family-namelast_name_prefix last_name/span There doesn't seem to be a way of marking up last_name_prefix

Re: [uf-discuss] hcard: additional additional names

2008-08-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi, O'Connor ought to be listed under C in an alphabetical list, although that rule's not applied very strictly any more. Otherwise Irish phonebooks would be nothing but O :) Certainly I remember that my name was under D on the register at school. Cheers Jim O'Donnell Original Message:

Re: [uf-discuss] hcard: additional additional names

2008-08-14 Thread Brian Suda
2008/8/14, Michael Smethurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On listings pages and: h1 class=vcard a href=http://localhost:3005/people/16; class=n fn url span class=given-nameLudwig/span span class=family-name-prefixvan/span span class=family-nameBeethoven/span /a /h1 On ludwig's page It

Re: [uf-discuss] hcard: additional additional names

2008-08-14 Thread Michael Smethurst
Hi Jim Unfortunately the data I'm working with would have O'Connor as one field and the sort letter would be 0. So you'd appear on ../o I fear But even if you were indexed as D and appeared under ../d you'd appear there as: O'Donnell, Jim And not: Donnell, Jim O' Whereas beethoven has van

Re: [uf-discuss] hcard: additional additional names

2008-08-14 Thread Michael Smethurst
On 14/8/08 12:32, Brian Suda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/8/14, Michael Smethurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On listings pages and: h1 class=vcard a href=http://localhost:3005/people/16; class=n fn url span class=given-nameLudwig/span span class=family-name-prefixvan/span span

[uf-discuss] hcard: additional additional names

2008-08-14 Thread Toby A Inkster
But some detach: Beethoven, Ludwig van span class=fn n span class=given-nameLudwig/span span class=family-name van span class=sort-stringBeethoven/span /span /span -- Toby A Inkster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://tobyinkster.co.uk

Re: [uf-discuss] hcard: additional additional names

2008-08-14 Thread Michael Smethurst
On 14/8/08 13:36, Toby A Inkster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But some detach: Beethoven, Ludwig van span class=fn n span class=given-nameLudwig/span span class=family-name van span class=sort-stringBeethoven/span /span /span But as I said earlier on listing pages it

[uf-discuss] hcard: additional additional names

2008-08-14 Thread Toby A Inkster
But as I said earlier on listing pages it should be Beethoven, Ludwig van Not especially pretty, but: span id=b class=sort-stringBeethoven/span, span class=fn n span class=given-nameLudwig/span span class=family-name van a href=#b class=hidden include/a /span /span -- Toby A

[uf-discuss] Microformats research

2008-08-14 Thread Jesse Rodgers
Hi, A little while ago I posted a version of my Masters research paper on Microformats in Higher Education: http://whoyoucallingajesse.com/past/2008/7/16/a_look_at_microformats_for/ One thing I didn't cover in my research was a set of use cases. My goal was to try and establish/apply a decent

Re: [uf-discuss] hcard: additional additional names

2008-08-14 Thread Martin McEvoy
Hello Michael Michael Smethurst wrote: On 14/8/08 12:32, Brian Suda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/8/14, Michael Smethurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On listings pages and: h1 class=vcard a href=http://localhost:3005/people/16; class=n fn url span class=given-nameLudwig/span span

Re: [uf-discuss] hcard: additional additional names

2008-08-14 Thread Michael Smethurst
On 14/8/08 15:23, Toby A Inkster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But as I said earlier on listing pages it should be Beethoven, Ludwig van Not especially pretty, but: span id=b class=sort-stringBeethoven/span, span class=fn n span class=given-nameLudwig/span span class=family-name

[uf-discuss] hcard: additional additional names

2008-08-14 Thread Toby A Inkster
Eeeuuurrgg! Well, I did warn that it was not pretty. The sort of hCard that might be found at goatse.cx perhaps. Using my own suggested alternative to the include pattern, it would be: span id=b class=sort-stringBeethoven/span, span class=fn n span

Re: [uf-discuss] hcard: additional additional names

2008-08-14 Thread Tantek Çelik
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 7:48 AM, Martin McEvoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Michael Michael Smethurst wrote: On 14/8/08 12:32, Brian Suda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/8/14, Michael Smethurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]: span class=family-name-prefixvan/span ... I've asked around and the label

Re: [uf-discuss] hcard: additional additional names

2008-08-14 Thread Jim O'Donnell
Hi MIchael, Unfortunately the data I'm working with would have O'Connor as one field and the sort letter would be 0. So you'd appear on ../o I fear But even if you were indexed as D and appeared under ../d you'd appear there as: O'Donnell, Jim That's fine - that's exactly how it

Re: [uf-discuss] hcard: additional additional names

2008-08-14 Thread Paul Wilkins
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Jim O'Donnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's fine - that's exactly how it should be written. The surname is written O'Donnell (not Donnell) but is indexed/sorted under D. This means that the surname is properly supposed to be O'Donnell and we should not care

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2008-08-14 Thread Chuck Allen
Martin suggested I go pass this on for those interested in names. The first doc has some background on representing custom/approaches to handling names in Saudia Arabia and UAE whereas the second covers a good cross-section of Europe and Asia:

Re: [uf-discuss] hcard: additional additional names

2008-08-14 Thread Lisa Goodlin
On 8/14/08 10:48 AM, Martin McEvoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *family-name-preposition* is probably more accurate to what you are trying to describe von in dutch simply means of or from, O as in O'Donnell, in Irish means descendant of or grandson of (in Gaelic Ua), Mc and Mac are again

[uf-discuss] rel-ecolabel

2008-08-14 Thread Martin McEvoy
Hello all http://microformats.org/wiki/Main_Page#Drafts rel-ecolabel http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-ecolabel - for indicating ecolabelled products/services/companies I didnt know there was such a thing! when did this get to Draft? I dont remember any discussion about ecolabels? can

Re: [uf-discuss] rel-ecolabel

2008-08-14 Thread Tantek Çelik
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Martin McEvoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all http://microformats.org/wiki/Main_Page#Drafts rel-ecolabel http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-ecolabel - for indicating ecolabelled products/services/companies I didnt know there was such a thing! when did