Hello Michael
Michael Smethurst wrote:
On 14/8/08 12:32, "Brian Suda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
2008/8/14, Michael Smethurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
On listings pages and:
<h1 class="vcard">
<a href="http://localhost:3005/people/16"; class="n fn url">
<span class="given-name">Ludwig</span>
<span class="family-name-prefix">van</span>
<span class="family-name">Beethoven</span>
</a>
</h1>
On ludwig's page
It means that Ludwig loses his van on operator export but I guess he won't
complain.
--- you could solve this by nesting the spans as well.
<span class="family-name">
<span class="family-name-prefix">van</span>
Beethoven
</span>
Cool, I'll do this on the person page and leave him slightly broke on the
listings where the nesting isn't possible cos of the separation
Beethoven, Ludwig van
I've asked around and the label "Onomastic prefix" has been suggested:
http://www.listservicedirect.com/ethnic_religious.html
But again it doesn't seem to differentiate between attached and detached
prefixes
So I'll stick with family-name-prefix for now (it's easier to spell for one)
unless anyone has a better idea
*family-name-preposition* is probably more accurate to what you are
trying to describe "von" in dutch simply means "of" or "from", "O" as in
"O'Donnell", in Irish means "descendant of" or "grandson of" (in
Gaelic Ua), Mc and Mac are again Irish meaning "son of", and "Fitz" as
in "FitzGerald" is an Irish hash of the french "fils de" which also
means "son of". What I am trying to say is any of these prefixes simply
mean "of" and shouldn't really be considered part of their family name
although they mostly are, think "Van Gough" would you know who I meant
if I just said "Gough"?
Best wishes
Martin McEvoy
This way, you are still adding POSH to the 'van' prefix, but it will
get exported to Operator together with the family-name. Unless this
would be a violation of the semantics of "family-name", but i think in
this case the nesting would be ok.
-brian
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