Re: Draft to Specification (was: [uf-discuss] More than three years)

2008-08-28 Thread Chris Mear
2008/8/28 Ben Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Maybe each spec should have a required minimum draft iterations before it can go 1.0, allowing people to participate at different levels. Those passionate about subject matter will take interest at the 0.1 stage, those who are simply active within

Draft to Specification (was: [uf-discuss] More than three years)

2008-08-28 Thread Toby A Inkster
Yay! Finally the sort of discussion I was hoping to kick-start. I think 'adr' and 'geo' should certainly be considered candidates for promoting from drafts to specs - these have been stable for ages and don't seem to have any issues raised (at least none which don't effect hCard, or

[uf-discuss] hcard authority?

2008-08-28 Thread James Tindall
Hi, I was just wondering if there's any existing mechanism for determining the authority of hcards? In other words, if a social graph query finds two hcards in different locations refering to the same person are there any guidlines for determining which should be considered authoritative if

Re: [uf-discuss] hcard authority?

2008-08-28 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux
Hello James, On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 9:39 AM, James Tindall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I was just wondering if there's any existing mechanism for determining the authority of hcards? In other words, if a social graph query finds two hcards in different locations refering to the same

Re: [uf-discuss] hcard authority?

2008-08-28 Thread Kevin Marks
Have a look at the representative hCard brainstorming: http://microformats.org/wiki/representative-hcard-brainstorming if the cards are linked, this can help you decide which to use. On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello James, On Thu, Aug

Re: [uf-discuss] hcard authority?

2008-08-28 Thread Tantek Celik
Thanks Kevin. Also, before making negative assertions like beyond the spec or does not exist, or *especially* before brainstorming in email (wiki is preferred for brainstorming), consider searching the wiki or using web search to search site:microformats.org for the terms in question. I've

Re: [uf-discuss] HTML5, Microformats and RDFa

2008-08-28 Thread Manu Sporny
Scott Reynen wrote: I think comparing RDFa to microformats actually hurts your argument by suggesting they solve the same problem and reinforcing the notion that the wider problem RDFa seeks to solve is unimportant. Rather, I would interpret the mentions of microformats as an indication that

[uf-discuss] Potential for Microformats.org to work with W3C and RDFa Task Force

2008-08-28 Thread Manu Sporny
Hi uFers, RDFa is going to become an official W3C standard in the next 2-3 months. Martin McEvoy had posted something about two weeks ago on the RDFa mailing list stating that he'd like to use RDFa to express Microformats:

Re: [uf-discuss] HTML5, Microformats and RDFa

2008-08-28 Thread André Luís
Manu, the css based approach is somethin that has come up in discussions about semantics with fellow workers. I believe it does not trash all of the hard work the communities have don so far. All it does, from what i gathered, is move the semantics from html and places it in a separate file/place.

Re: [uf-discuss] HTML5, Microformats and RDFa

2008-08-28 Thread Manu Sporny
André Luís wrote: Manu, the css based approach is somethin that has come up in discussions about semantics with fellow workers. I believe it does not trash all of the hard work the communities have don so far. I never said the discussions trashed all of our hard work. I said that some of the

Re: [uf-discuss] Potential for Microformats.org to work with W3C and RDFa Task Force

2008-08-28 Thread Ben Ward
On 28 Aug 2008, at 12:24, Manu Sporny wrote: It will take a couple of weeks to give examples of how this will all work, but I wanted to get feedback from this community before proceeding. We have a fantastic opportunity in front of us now - who in this community thinks that we should work

Re: [uf-discuss] Potential for Microformats.org to work with W3C andRDFa Task Force

2008-08-28 Thread Tantek Celik
Completely agreed w all of Ben Ward's points. In addition - I would be very concerned that the microformats principles would be compromised by any such efforts as Manu suggests, and efficiency of parsing/parsers and other points listed are not worth compromising the principles. Tantek

Re: [uf-discuss] Potential for Microformats.org to work with W3C andRDFa Task Force

2008-08-28 Thread Scott Reynen
On [Aug 28], at [ Aug 28] 4:23 , Tantek Celik wrote: I would be very concerned that the microformats principles would be compromised by any such efforts as Manu suggests, and efficiency of parsing/parsers and other points listed are not worth compromising the principles. That, or we'd

Re: [uf-discuss] HTML5, Microformats and RDFa

2008-08-28 Thread André Luís
I had misread you there, Manu. I apologize. Thanks for clearing it up. Those 3x bullet points are a great summary. Well done. -- André On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 10:11 PM, Manu Sporny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: André Luís wrote: Manu, the css based approach is somethin that has come up in