Ah! Ok thanks. That makes sense.
Now what if we take this to the site level as opposed to the page level?
Suppose as a content publisher, I want to place certain Microformats on
another page. Let's say a list of all my recipes on a recipe page.
As I understand it, there's not yet any
I've done a bit of a search, and again, being new to the mailing list as
you are, I can't speak definitively on where the discussion currently
is, but there is a discussion about this topic listed in the mailing
list archives of November, which can be seen here:
The different Greasemonkey scripts also do a good job finding some implementations of microformats:http://microformats.org/wiki/greasemonkeyCheers!
PatOn 3/24/06, Dimitri Glazkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This has been an on-and-off discussion that ought to be documentedsomewhere -- well, at least
On Mar 23, 2006, at 11:52 PM, Breton Blake Slivka wrote:
Hello, I myself am new to the discussion list, though perhaps I
might be able to shed *some* light on your question.
From what I understand, if a page includes microformats, that page /
should/ link to an xmdp profile for each
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I am developing a microformat proposal for plants.
What do you mean by plants? Garden plants? Plants as studied by
botanists? Plant-material, such as cut flowers, or planks of timber?
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ITYM Homo sapiens (two words, capital H, closing s)
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If you know what you're looking for, you'll find it.
If you don't know what you're looking for, why are you
looking for it?
Why? Serendipity.
Sometimes you don't know you're looking for something till you find it. One
tenet of usable design, for example, is discoverability. Why not make
On Mar 24, 2006, at 10:40 AM, Rod Begbie wrote:
Hello Chaps.
Hello, welcome to the list.
I've been lurking for a wee while, trying to get me head round an idea
I would like to see.
My goal is the creation of a music-description microformat.
How would this differ from the generic
Seems that another good step would be to visit all the major sites
selling music and see what classes they use (emusic, itunes (?),
walmart, amazon, buy.com, etc).
If trying to mimic the work of music/sound cataloguers has failed,
perhaps we go after the merchants and see what information they're
On Mar 24, 2006, at 12:08 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote:
What do you mean by plants? Garden plants? Plants as studied by
botanists? Plant-material, such as cut flowers, or planks of timber?
Is there really any ambiguity here? The former two are the same
thing, no? Does a plant become something
On Mar 24, 2006, at 12:17 PM, Phil Haack wrote:
I can envision something similar with Microformats. Suppose I
point my
brand spanking new Microformats enabled RSS Bandit towards
http://glazkov.com/ and it pops up a list of various Microformats
on that
page. Wonderful!
The bummer is that
On Mar 24, 2006, at 11:45 AM, Scott Reynen wrote:
On Mar 24, 2006, at 12:08 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote:
What do you mean by plants? Garden plants? Plants as studied by
botanists? Plant-material, such as cut flowers, or planks of timber?
Is there really any ambiguity here? The former two are
Breton Blake Slivka wrote...
However, a species classification microformat would fit right in with the
other broadly applicable microformats on microformats.org.
Indeed. Creating a more generalized microformat, that can be specifically
applied to plants, seems like a pretty good idea. This
People do read Microformat content directly which I understand. It fits
with the Human First principle.
But references to the xmdp profiles are in the head element which is NOT
human readable. So there is precedent for non-human readable
discoverability mechanism within Microformats.
At Mix06,
On 3/24/06, Ryan King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How would this differ from the generic media-info format? (which is,
admittedly a stalled effort at this point)
media-info seems to be taking the broad view of Here's a lump of
media... Let's describe it. It seems to me that that's too wide a
Question: is there currently a microformat that can be used to describe
threaded conversations? e.g. something that could be used in
conjunction with hAtom to describe entries that are responses to other
entries (equivalent to the in-reply-to element from
Are you guys talking about something like this, except in HTML?
http://www.google.com/webmasters/sitemaps/docs/en/protocol.html
:DG
On 3/24/06, Phil Haack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
People do read Microformat content directly which I understand. It fits
with the Human First principle.
But
Is OpenURL COinS http://ocoins.info/ a microformat? How widely used
is it? are there any alternative/ competing formats?
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I totally agree. AFAIK Microformats are in part about building upon
emergent behavior and looking at precedent, so it would have to be optional.
The precedent here, as you stated, is Google Sitemaps. I also see RSS
auto-discovery as a precedent. With most implementations of RSS
auto-discovery,
Yes. Something like that. But again, we'd want to stay focused on what
would benefit a user looking at a page marked up as so. For example, we
probably wouldn't care to have any information about change frequency and
such. Why should a user (or even a Microformat aggregator for that matter)
James,
Please see cite-rel at http://microformats.org/wiki/cite-rel it can be
mapped to atompub-feed-thread 'in-reply-to' and, I think, replies' as well.
Eran.
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In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Scott
Reynen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
What do you mean by plants? Garden plants? Plants as studied by
botanists? Plant-material, such as cut flowers, or planks of timber?
Is there really any ambiguity here? The former two are the same
thing, no? Does a plant
On Mar 24, 2006, at 1:23 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote:
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Scott
Reynen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Do we need to clarify that we're not talking about plastic plants or
photos of plants also?
Is that really the level of debate, here?
Alright, let's slow down a bit here.
First of all, welcome to the list, Phil. I encourage you to read
through the list archives and the wiki, there's a lot of background
material and previous discussion there.
On Mar 24, 2006, at 12:16 PM, Phil Haack wrote:
People do read Microformat content directly which I understand. It
First of all, welcome to the list, Phil. I encourage you to read
through the list archives and the wiki, there's a lot of background
material and previous discussion there.
Thanks Ryan. I'm working through the material, but as you mentioned below,
navigating and indexing content is a
Mark,
Good job starting, but you will want to make your examples a little more
descriptive. For instance, not just listing the types of information on a
site, but how that information is displayed.
img src=/graphics/icons/DBluFore_AspSun.gif alt=Sunshine Levels -
Sunfont class=ForeLobetc.
Excellent! First glance looks good.
- James
Eran wrote:
James,
Please see cite-rel at http://microformats.org/wiki/cite-rel it can be
mapped to atompub-feed-thread 'in-reply-to' and, I think, replies' as well.
Eran.
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On Mar 24, 2006, at 2:04 PM, Ryan King wrote:
Let's take a step back and think about whether a microformat for
plants is worthwhile–
Microformats are solutions to common problems, which means they often
end up being low hanging fruit.
That doesn't mean, however, that all low-hanging-fruit
Skipping back a few posts...
On 3/23/06, Scott Reynen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mar 23, 2006, at 8:31 PM, Breton Blake Slivka wrote:
My thought is that it's a very specific microformat, which sort of
bucks the trend of very broadly applicable microformats thus far
defined and set as
On Mar 24, 2006, at 4:20 PM, Ryan King wrote:
Hmm, this sounds to me like a theoretical argument. I'd like to
hear what experience people have had here. Has anyone here worked
on crawling to index microformats? If so, what challenges did you
face?
Yes. The two I know of are reevoo,
On Mar 24, 2006, at 4:04 PM, Ryan King wrote:
I've so far stayed out of the discussion about a plant microformat,
mostly because I don't really care about talking about plants on
the Web.
Let's take a step back and think about whether a microformat for
plants is worthwhile–
We should
But many sites do present a sitemap
already for humans first. I think its quite helpful when a site does have one.
Not everyone will generate them, true, but a sitemap can also represent a
logical structure that isnt necessary reflective of a filesystem structure.
The sitemap itself
I've only just recently figured out what xmdp's are, and what they're
capable of. I notice the structure of your hcard/hreview/hcalendar
thing is such that you can pick an attribute, and search for bits of
data which contain that attribute. Have you attempted to detect and
parse XMDP's
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