Re: [uf-new] Re: Namespace anti-pattern and hAudio TITLE

2008-02-08 Thread Walter Logeman
In the Proposal put forward by Manu [1] would the distinction you propose Andy be allowed? possible? encouraged? needed? Walter - Andy Mabbett wrote: So, who is going to make an argument against using TITLE in hAudio? I'm not, but I do think we should allow for distinction between the

[uf-new] Re: Namespace anti-pattern and hAudio TITLE

2008-02-05 Thread Edward O'Connor
Manu wrote: Does it? If 'country-name' isn't namespaced, then we could get rid of country and 'name' by itself would have an unambiguous meaning. I think you're missing the distinction between 'namespace' and 'context', like Tantek suggested. Basically, you're stating the reductio for your own

Re: [uf-new] Re: Namespace anti-pattern and hAudio TITLE

2008-02-05 Thread Manu Sporny
Edward O'Connor wrote: Manu wrote: Does it? If 'country-name' isn't namespaced, then we could get rid of country and 'name' by itself would have an unambiguous meaning. I think you're missing the distinction between 'namespace' and 'context', like Tantek suggested. I assure you, I am

Re: [uf-new] Re: Namespace anti-pattern and hAudio TITLE (was: hAudio FN or Title)

2008-02-04 Thread Martin McEvoy
On Sun, 2008-02-03 at 22:34 -0800, Tantek =?ISO-8859-1?B?xw==?=elik wrote: 1) it's already used to mean job title in the context of microformats. 2) the concept that it is being proposed to represent is the *name* of an audio item. fn already means the name of an item. we should not

Re: [uf-new] Re: Namespace anti-pattern and hAudio TITLE (was: hAudio FN or Title)

2008-02-04 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Mon, February 4, 2008 10:30, Martin McEvoy wrote: fn in vcard rfc 2426 inherits its semantics from X.520[2] (2001) 'commonName.' attribute [...The Common Name attribute type specifies an identifier of an object. A Common Name is not a directory name; it is a (possibly ambiguous)...]

Re: [uf-new] Re: Namespace anti-pattern and hAudio TITLE (was: hAudio FN or Title)

2008-02-04 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Manu Sporny [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes We should be using TITLE for the title of audio recordings. So, who is going to make an argument against using TITLE in hAudio? I'm not, but I do think we should allow for distinction between the titles of tracks, albums, works

Re: [uf-new] Re: Namespace anti-pattern and hAudio TITLE (was: hAudio FN or Title)

2008-02-03 Thread Martin McEvoy
On Sun, 2008-02-03 at 14:31 -0500, Manu Sporny wrote: FN doesn't mean anything useful until it is wrapped by a Microformat - hCard, or hAudio, for example. This means that the wrapping Microformat brings context into the equation. The same as if we use title outside of hcard IT doesn't mean

Re: [uf-new] Re: Namespace anti-pattern and hAudio TITLE (was: hAudio FN or Title)

2008-02-03 Thread Tantek Çelik
On 2/3/08 11:31 AM, Manu Sporny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin McEvoy wrote: I think he means Context-Aware I And to answer Manu's no I don't think its necessary, Microformats already ARE context aware? Yes! This is my point exactly. If Microformats ARE context aware, then there is the