Re: [uf-new] hAudio 1.0 Draft Release

2008-10-29 Thread Martin McEvoy
Manu Sporny wrote: Martin McEvoy wrote: In Microformats this means that if a propery is used more than 80% of the time then it should be included in the format, We'll call this Statement A. If we were to hold this true, then we would be left with these properties for hAudio. We would

Re: [uf-new] hAudio 1.0 Draft Release

2008-10-29 Thread Scott Reynen
On [Oct 29], at [ Oct 29] 7:39 , Martin McEvoy wrote: The above information has been the crux of my issues with the audio- info process, because we haven't YET created a microformat for Music Downloads. The Proposal to create a Microformat for Music Downloads (If any one remembers) was

Re: [uf-new] hAudio 1.0 Draft Release

2008-10-16 Thread Manu Sporny
Martin McEvoy wrote: In Microformats this means that if a propery is used more than 80% of the time then it should be included in the format, this will result in the top 20% of all discovered properties making their way into the final Microformat. You continue to contradict yourself, which is

Re: [uf-new] hAudio 1.0 Draft Release

2008-10-15 Thread Martin McEvoy
Hello Manu Manu Sporny wrote: Martin McEvoy wrote: This email is to announce the hAudio[1] 1.0 Final Draft proposed Schema It's good to see this moving forward as I haven't had any time to work on hAudio over the past couple of months. :) ;-) Removed properties that are 70% or

[uf-new] hAudio 1.0 Draft Release

2008-10-15 Thread Martin McEvoy
Hello This email is to announce the hAudio[1] 1.0 Final Draft proposed Schema Properties that are 70% or over of discovered elements determined by the audio-info examples[2] haudio (required) fn (required) contributor album enclosure type published duration position photo Removed properties

Re: [uf-new] hAudio 1.0 Draft Release

2008-10-15 Thread Tantek Celik
To: For discussion of new microformats.microformats-new@microformats.org Subject: Re: [uf-new] hAudio 1.0 Draft Release Hello Scott. Scott Reynen wrote: On [Oct 15], at [ Oct 15] 7:06 , Martin McEvoy wrote: This email is to announce the hAudio[1] 1.0 Final Draft proposed Schema [1] http

Re: [uf-new] hAudio 1.0 Draft Release

2008-10-15 Thread Manu Sporny
Tantek Celik wrote: Additionally: in general I agree with the methodology of simplifying/reducing the schema and property set - hence the start as simple as possible principle as documented: In general, I agree with simplifying/reducing the schema and property set as long as it still

Re: [uf-new] hAudio 1.0 Draft Release

2008-10-15 Thread Martin McEvoy
Manu Sporny wrote: Martin McEvoy wrote: Toby Inkster wrote: The 80/20 principle is not meant to be applied this way. In the end Yes it is, if a property doesn't come within 80% of popular publishing patterns It doesn't belong in the format that is why the microformats process is

[uf-new] hAudio 1.0 Draft Release

2008-10-15 Thread Toby A Inkster
Answering several messages in one... Martin McEvoy wrote: In Microformats this means that if a propery is used more than 80% of the time then it should be included in the format, this will result in the top 20% of all discovered properties making their way into the final Microformat.

Re: [uf-new] hAudio 1.0 Draft Release

2008-10-15 Thread Martin McEvoy
Sigh! Toby A Inkster wrote: Answering several messages in one... Martin McEvoy wrote: In Microformats this means that if a propery is used more than 80% of the time then it should be included in the format, this will result in the top 20% of all discovered properties making their way into

Re: [uf-new] hAudio 1.0 Draft Release

2008-10-15 Thread Martin McEvoy
Toby A Inkster wrote: I had to look at the early implementers of haudio and see how they were using Item, No One currently is using Item The following use item... For the Record Item Is a useful property in haudio, It is just defined incorrectly in the proposal In haudio Item is not

Re: [uf-new] hAudio 1.0 Draft Release

2008-10-15 Thread Scott Reynen
On [Oct 15], Martin McEvoy wrote: Sigh! Indeed. The content type should certainly be made explicit when known, but making it a class name is a mistake - the type attribute should be used as above. Making it into a class takes it away from the link, so you end up with stuff like this,

Re: [uf-new] hAudio 1.0 Draft Release

2008-10-15 Thread Martin McEvoy
Scott Reynen wrote: On [Oct 15], at [ Oct 15] 2:58 , Martin McEvoy wrote: None of the proposed removals are issues, I am simply applying the 80/20 rule to the existing schema using the Microformats Process If the 80/20 principle (not rule) hasn't been applied appropriately, that's an issue.

Re: [uf-new] hAudio 1.0 Draft Release

2008-10-15 Thread Martin McEvoy
Martin McEvoy wrote: http://microformats.org/wiki/haudio#Parser_Processing_Notes Parser Processing Notes * It is important to understand that ITEM is an opaque element. When processing the ITEM element, none of the properties of the child hAudio should be pulled into the