Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-23 Thread carlopmart
ropers wrote: On 23/10/2007, Jeff Quast [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to vouch for openbsd working great as a guest, but my guest has crashed a dozen times. However I think this is due to the debian linux dom0 having broken sata code for the controller in use. dom0's dmesg is filled

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-23 Thread Luca Corti
On Tue, 2007-10-23 at 01:11 +0200, ropers wrote: unavoidable. The question is, is that a worthwhile trade-off? Is this a reason not to support Xen? Or should the user be given that option regardless of the inherent limitations and consequences? A proper Dom0 port of XEN to OpenBSD would solve

Re: Biometrics

2007-10-23 Thread David Vasek
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007, Cyrus wrote: I've been looking for some time now for biometric software for openbsd, to work in XDM or KDM. I need it to support Keytronic F-SCAN-K001US, if nothing exists, I guess its back to a regular keyboard. I dont think I can run Bio-Logon 3.0 through wine as a system

CARP problem

2007-10-23 Thread Heinrich Rebehn
Hi All, i am trying to setup a carp'ed pair of firewalls and am fighting with strange CARP behavior. frw1 is i386, frw2 is amd64, but both run i386 OpenBSD 4.2 On each machine i have configured 4 vlans on the sk0 interface. The carp interfaces are configured on top of the vlan interfaces (see

Re: CARP problem

2007-10-23 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 11:10:32AM +0200, Heinrich Rebehn wrote: What happens: 1. I boot frw1, it becomes MASTER on all carps - good. 2. I boot frw2, it becomes BACKUP on all carps except carp0, which becomes MASTER - bad. Any ideas? Do you have pass quick for carp and pfsync *before*

Solved: CARP problem

2007-10-23 Thread Heinrich Rebehn
Heinrich Rebehn wrote: Hi All, i am trying to setup a carp'ed pair of firewalls and am fighting with strange CARP behavior. frw1 is i386, frw2 is amd64, but both run i386 OpenBSD 4.2 On each machine i have configured 4 vlans on the sk0 interface. The carp interfaces are configured on top of

Re: daap/mdns multicast problems

2007-10-23 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Jonathan Kent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Been trying in vain to get daap/mdns traffic through my OpenBSD 4.1 firewall to talk to my mt-daap server. From tcpdumping I can see the multicast traffic coming into sis1 interface but not coming out of the sis0 interface so I can only assume that I

Re: CARP problem

2007-10-23 Thread Marco Pfatschbacher
On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 11:10:32AM +0200, Heinrich Rebehn wrote: Googling showed up quite a few posts of people having problems with CARP and the incorrect hash message, but none really helped me. the most common reason for incorrect hash messages is that your configuration isn't in sync.

Installing the latest snapshot freezes on i386

2007-10-23 Thread Reza Muhammad
Hi all, I just recently purchased a brand new HP Pavilion G3035L Desktop PC (spec: http://www.anugrahpratama.com/product/21/1092/HP-Pavilion-G3035L-Desktop-PC). It's using Intel Core Duo processor. I tried to install OpenBSD's latest snapshot to this machine last night. The thing is it freezes

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-23 Thread Per-Erik Persson
I might be flamed for this statement but not being able to run inside a virtualized environment is not an option in the future. Most servers you can buy today are to powerful for only taking care of one task. It is really handy to be able to shuffle around the cpu:s to the virtual machine that

OSS audio drivers

2007-10-23 Thread Jan Stary
Hi all, this is to clarify (for me, anyway) the status of audio drivers present in the (recently GPLed) OSS. http://www.opensound.com/osshw.html What is the relation of OpenBSD's audio drivers to the OSS project? What, if anything, does opensourcing (GPL, I know) their code mean for our audio

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-23 Thread Lars Noodén
Per-Erik Persson wrote: ... not being able to run inside a virtualized environment is not an option in the future. Virtualization is available already. See the package qemu. http://www.openbsd.org/4.1_packages/ Or are you aiming for Xen specifically? Keep in mind that the most

Network Time Synchronization using timed or ntpd or a Combination?

2007-10-23 Thread Clint Pachl
What is the most efficient and secure way to keep the clocks of servers on a network in sync? Because OpenNTPD was designed with security in mind from the start, I was thinking about using ntpd only on all systems. One system would get time from the NTP pool and all other servers on the

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-23 Thread Lars Hansson
On 10/23/07, Per-Erik Persson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I might be flamed for this statement but not being able to run inside a virtualized environment is not an option in the future. The future is not now, no-one is saying openBSD will never run in a virtualized environment. Most servers you

Re: Network Time Synchronization using timed or ntpd or a Combination?

2007-10-23 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Clint Pachl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was thinking about using ntpd only on all systems. One system would get time from the NTP pool ... or from a time signal sensor... and all other servers on the network would sync to the local server. Is this the best way? Yes. Then I discovered

Re: em(4) - IFCAP_VLAN_MTU IFCAP_VLAN_HWTAGGING ?

2007-10-23 Thread Henning Brauer
* Tony Sarendal [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-22 18:33]: I didn't get that opinion from marketing. No matter, we disagree, lets leave it at that. well, yeah, nontheless, I wanna point out the essence why stateful is better (the way we do it in OpenBSD): 1) it moves the limit where the box starts

Re: Help! I'm having Linux foisted on me! (PF queuing woes)

2007-10-23 Thread Henning Brauer
* Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-22 20:39]: Joshua Smith wrote: Out of curiosity what are these two extremely rare cases? [snip] One example off the top of my head (and ipsec.conf(5)) is the enc0 interface. You wouldn't set your state-policy to this, but each individual rule would use

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-23 Thread Henning Brauer
* carlopmart [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-23 09:13]: IMHO I think that OpenBSD needs to capable to install and run as a paravirtualized domU guest, with some limitations if you like. Last year I have do the same question. Then it was said that only needed NetBSD do the xen port, and from

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-23 Thread Lars Noodén
Per-Erik Persson wrote: To get the best performance out of qemu you need to run linux. I'm no expert in virtualization, but may I ask if you are remembering to use kqemu ? There is also virtual box. http://www.virtualbox.org/ It may or may not run on an OpenBSD host, but does run

Re: Update features on PF(OpenBSD4.2)

2007-10-23 Thread Henning Brauer
* Beavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-22 18:29]: hi folks, I saw this performance issue with pf on a AMD64firewall: below is the link http://www.nabble.com/firewall-is-very-slow%2C-something%27s-wrong-t4572653i20.html it states that pf on 4.2 performs much better than in 4.1. having

Re: Network Time Synchronization using timed or ntpd or a Combination?

2007-10-23 Thread Henning Brauer
* Clint Pachl [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-23 12:55]: Because OpenNTPD was designed with security in mind from the start, I was thinking about using ntpd only on all systems. One system would get time from the NTP pool and all other servers on the network would sync to the local server. Is

Re: Help! I'm having Linux foisted on me! (PF queuing woes)

2007-10-23 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 02:10:43PM +0200, Henning Brauer wrote: * Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-22 20:39]: Joshua Smith wrote: Out of curiosity what are these two extremely rare cases? [snip] One example off the top of my head (and ipsec.conf(5)) is the enc0 interface. You

Re: OSS audio drivers

2007-10-23 Thread Edd Barrett
Hi, On 23/10/2007, Jan Stary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, this is to clarify (for me, anyway) the status of audio drivers present in the (recently GPLed) OSS. http://www.opensound.com/osshw.html What is the relation of OpenBSD's audio drivers to the OSS project? What, if anything,

Re: Update features on PF(OpenBSD4.2)

2007-10-23 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: doing teh boring, pretty riskless 10 minutes taking 4.2 upgrade everybody could easily do, for some combinations of crappy old hardware, too small memory size and nonsensically large filesystems it might stretch into 20-odd minutes, but otherwise my

Systems, Oct 23 - 26, 2007, Munich, Germany

2007-10-23 Thread Wim Vandeputte
Hey, as a reminder, you can visit the Systems expo this week in Munchen, there is an OpenBSD/OpenSSH booth in Halle B2 110-2, run by DaN, Nikolay Sturm and Marco Pfatschbacher There are of course 4.2 CDs and Tshirts, so if you did not pre-order, this is the quickest way to get one this month.

Re: OSS audio drivers

2007-10-23 Thread Theo de Raadt
That code is not free enough for us to use, and therefore we don't use it. that's the whole story. this is to clarify (for me, anyway) the status of audio drivers present in the (recently GPLed) OSS. http://www.opensound.com/osshw.html What is the relation of OpenBSD's audio drivers to the

Re: Network Time Synchronization using timed or ntpd or a Combination?

2007-10-23 Thread Boris Goldberg
Hello Clint, Tuesday, October 23, 2007, 5:42:47 AM, you wrote: CP One system would get time from the NTP pool and all other servers on CP the network would sync to the local server. You don't really need ntpd on all systems. One (timeserver) runs ntpd, and others use rdate, called from

Re: OSS audio drivers

2007-10-23 Thread Jan Stary
What is the relation of OpenBSD's audio drivers to the OSS project? What, if anything, does opensourcing (GPL, I know) their code mean for our audio drivers? In particular, does that mean (future) support for the high-end soundcards such as M-Audio Delta? OpenBSD uses an implementation

writing non-ascii characters via SSH

2007-10-23 Thread Juan Miscaro
{ this is a resend } I am currently experiencing difficulty in writing text files containing French characters on my OpenBSD 4.0 server via SSH. On both the FreeBSD client system and on the OpenBSD server system I have the following: ~/.profile: export LANG=C export LC_CTYPE=fr_CA.ISO8859-1

Re: OSS audio drivers

2007-10-23 Thread Edd Barrett
On 23/10/2007, Jan Stary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which underlying hardware driver does it use? uaudio -- Best Regards Edd --- http://students.dec.bournemouth.ac.uk/ebarrett

Re: Network Time Synchronization using timed or ntpd or a Combination?

2007-10-23 Thread Rogier Krieger
On 10/23/07, Boris Goldberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't really need ntpd on all systems. One (timeserver) runs ntpd, and others use rdate, called from cron (once a day is usually enough). While your suggestion would work, it would also entail more work without adding benefit. Upon

NextG networking

2007-10-23 Thread Andrew Dalgleish
I've put up some notes about NextG networking on OpenBSD at http://www.ajd.net.au/nextg/openbsd.html including a kernel patch to suit ZTE handsets which will probably work with other Qualcomm-based handsets. Regards, Andrew Dalgleish

Re: Network Time Synchronization using timed or ntpd or a Combination?

2007-10-23 Thread Chris Kuethe
On 10/23/07, Rogier Krieger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Using ntpd gets you better synchronisation without the need of setting something up with cron. Rdate will work, but the work developers put into (further integrating) ntpd makes rdate appear rather ... outdated. Rdate provides a single

Re: Network Time Synchronization using timed or ntpd or a Combination?

2007-10-23 Thread Henning Brauer
* Boris Goldberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-23 15:50]: CP One system would get time from the NTP pool and all other servers on CP the network would sync to the local server. You don't really need ntpd on all systems. One (timeserver) runs ntpd, and others use rdate, called from cron

Re: em(4) - IFCAP_VLAN_MTU IFCAP_VLAN_HWTAGGING ?

2007-10-23 Thread Tony Sarendal
On 10/23/07, Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Tony Sarendal [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-22 18:33]: I didn't get that opinion from marketing. No matter, we disagree, lets leave it at that. well, yeah, nontheless, I wanna point out the essence why stateful is better (the way we do

Re: Network Time Synchronization using timed or ntpd or a Combination?

2007-10-23 Thread Jon Radel
Christian Weisgerber wrote: Clint Pachl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was thinking about using ntpd only on all systems. One system would get time from the NTP pool ... or from a time signal sensor... and all other servers on the network would sync to the local server. Is this the best

Kernel crash after connecting NIC

2007-10-23 Thread Frans Haarman
This happend after connecting an network interface! It was previously connected to a HP SWitch, I moved the cable to a lan port on a Cisco PIX 501. The crash was almost instant I Think. It happend in a test lab I am setting up. So probably some config error on my side, but still I typed the

Re: NextG networking

2007-10-23 Thread Jonathan Gray
On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 12:18:36AM +1000, Andrew Dalgleish wrote: I've put up some notes about NextG networking on OpenBSD at http://www.ajd.net.au/nextg/openbsd.html including a kernel patch to suit ZTE handsets which will probably work with other Qualcomm-based handsets. Regards, Andrew

gpio support on ALIX board

2007-10-23 Thread Martin Hedenfalk
Hello list, Is anyone working on getting the gpio pins supported on the PCEngines ALIX boards? I'd like to be able to control the LEDs using gpioctl, just like on the WRAP. -martin

Re: Installing the latest snapshot freezes on i386

2007-10-23 Thread Brian A Seklecki (Mobile)
On Tue, 2007-10-23 at 01:42 -0700, Reza Muhammad wrote: Hi all, I just recently purchased a brand new HP Pavilion G3035L Desktop PC (spec: http://www.anugrahpratama.com/product/21/1092/HP-Pavilion-G3035L-Desktop-PC). It's using Intel Core Duo processor. I tried to install OpenBSD's

Re: Network Time Synchronization using timed or ntpd or a Combination?

2007-10-23 Thread Boris Goldberg
Hello Rogier, Tuesday, October 23, 2007, 9:01:32 AM, you wrote: RK On 10/23/07, Boris Goldberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't really need ntpd on all systems. One (timeserver) runs ntpd, and others use rdate, called from cron (once a day is usually enough). RK While your suggestion

Re: em(4) - IFCAP_VLAN_MTU IFCAP_VLAN_HWTAGGING ?

2007-10-23 Thread Henning Brauer
* Tony Sarendal [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-23 17:06]: I wish to implement things in a way where the link is the limitation, not the box. as I said before, you cannot buy a box that can handle 100M under all circumstances. When I have some time free I'll test it in the lab to see that

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-23 Thread ropers
Hi Christoph, Right now, on the OpenBSD misc mailing list, there is this discussion: http://www.sigmasoft.com/~openbsd/archives/html/openbsd-misc/2007-10/threads.html#01149 about OpenBSD/Xen. We last spoke last year, when I put your BSDtalk interview transcript online at

Re: OSS audio drivers

2007-10-23 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 03:32:07PM +0200, Jan Stary wrote: What is the relation of OpenBSD's audio drivers to the OSS project? What, if anything, does opensourcing (GPL, I know) their code mean for our audio drivers? In particular, does that mean (future) support for the high-end

Re: Network Time Synchronization using timed or ntpd or a Combination?

2007-10-23 Thread Rogier Krieger
On 10/23/07, Chris Kuethe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rdate provides a single valuable service: the ability to poll a device to see what time it thinks it is (ie. probing the health of my time servers). Good point; I should probably add that to my monitoring setup. Thanks for the suggestion,

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-23 Thread Ted Unangst
On 10/23/07, Per-Erik Persson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If OpenBSD doesn't adopt to the virtualization trend it will used only as an obscure firewall box. people have been saying if openbsd doesn't do what i want it will only be used as an obscure firewall box for years. what else is new?

Re: Network Time Synchronization using timed or ntpd or a Combination?

2007-10-23 Thread Rogier Krieger
On 10/23/07, Boris Goldberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's always better to don't run a demon if you don't have to. :) That sort of remark has often started endless debates. :) For me, trusting rdate to provide time or using ntpd for it is pretty much the same, but feel free to disagree. There

Re: Network Time Synchronization using timed or ntpd or a Combination?

2007-10-23 Thread Pierre-Yves Ritschard
Boris Goldberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Rogier, Tuesday, October 23, 2007, 9:01:32 AM, you wrote: RK On 10/23/07, Boris Goldberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't really need ntpd on all systems. One (timeserver) runs ntpd, and others use rdate, called from cron (once a day is

Re: em(4) - IFCAP_VLAN_MTU IFCAP_VLAN_HWTAGGING ?

2007-10-23 Thread ropers
On 23/10/2007, Tony Sarendal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/23/07, Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Tony Sarendal [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-22 18:33]: I didn't get that opinion from marketing. No matter, we disagree, lets leave it at that. well, yeah, nontheless, I wanna

Re: OSS audio drivers

2007-10-23 Thread Alexandre Ratchov
On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 12:25:03PM +0200, Jan Stary wrote: What is the relation of OpenBSD's audio drivers to the OSS project? What, if anything, does opensourcing (GPL, I know) their code mean for our audio drivers? In particular, does that mean (future) support for the high-end soundcards

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-23 Thread ropers
On 23/10/2007, Jeff Quast [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 22/10/2007, carlopmart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I know that time to time somebody do the same question, but I need to know it: is it planned at some point to release a paravirtualized xen kernel for OpenBSD

Re: Network Time Synchronization using timed or ntpd or a Combination?

2007-10-23 Thread Boris Goldberg
Hello Pierre-Yves, Tuesday, October 23, 2007, 11:39:10 AM, you wrote: You don't really need ntpd on all systems. One (timeserver) runs ntpd, and others use rdate, called from cron (once a day is usually enough). PYR I hope nobody takes what you say seriously. Running rdate instead of PYR

Re: em(4) - IFCAP_VLAN_MTU IFCAP_VLAN_HWTAGGING ?

2007-10-23 Thread Tony Sarendal
On 10/23/07, ropers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 23/10/2007, Tony Sarendal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/23/07, Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Tony Sarendal [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-22 18:33]: I didn't get that opinion from marketing. No matter, we disagree, lets

Re: Network Time Synchronization using timed or ntpd or a Combination?

2007-10-23 Thread Paul de Weerd
On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 12:05:58PM -0500, Boris Goldberg wrote: | The ntpd from OBSD is raw and lame yet. It takes days (!) to really | synchronize, adjusting time and clock frequency back and forth (even if you | start with -s) so it's too early to say that using it is right. It will |

Re: Network Time Synchronization using timed or ntpd or a Combination?

2007-10-23 Thread Chris Kuethe
On 10/23/07, Boris Goldberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The ntpd from OBSD is raw and lame yet. It takes days (!) to really synchronize, adjusting time and clock frequency back and forth (even if you start with -s) so it's too early to say that using it is right. It will be right after

Re: Network Time Synchronization using timed or ntpd or a Combination?

2007-10-23 Thread Boris Goldberg
Hello Paul, Tuesday, October 23, 2007, 12:38:43 PM, you wrote: PdW ... run rdate, it has the -n switch. Here we go! :D -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

MegaRAID SAS 8204ELP not working ?

2007-10-23 Thread Walter Bürger
Hi, just installed a MegaRAID SAS 8204ELP Controller and according to the BIOS: LSI MegaRAID Software RAID BIOS Version M1068e.01.01021804R LSI Logic MPT RAID Found at PCI Bus No:04 Dev No:00 SAS/SATA RAID key is Detected. Bringing up the Controller. Please wait... Scanning for Port 00...

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-23 Thread xSAPPYx
On 10/23/07, Lars NoodC)n [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Per-Erik Persson wrote: ... not being able to run inside a virtualized environment is not an option in the future. Virtualization is available already. See the package qemu. http://www.openbsd.org/4.1_packages/ Or are you aiming

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-23 Thread Nick Guenther
On 10/23/07, Lars Noodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Per-Erik Persson wrote: To get the best performance out of qemu you need to run linux. The choices narrow. Can kqemu be compiled for OBSD? Is virtualbox an option? I had this thought a couple of weeks ago and started looking through the

Re: Network Time Synchronization using timed or ntpd or a Combination?

2007-10-23 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 11:49:57AM -0600, Chris Kuethe wrote: On 10/23/07, Boris Goldberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The ntpd from OBSD is raw and lame yet. It takes days (!) to really synchronize, adjusting time and clock frequency back and forth (even if you start with -s) so it's

Can anyone recommend a cheap and mature, well-supported graphics board for OpenBSD?

2007-10-23 Thread ropers
I may be able to inherit an ASROCK 775Dual-VSTA mainboard. The board does not have on-board graphics, so I would need to buy a graphics card. The board supports AGP, PCI, and PCI Express Graphics slots. Can anyone recommend a graphics card? I am looking for a mature graphics solution that's well

Re: Can anyone recommend a cheap and mature, well-supported graphics board for OpenBSD?

2007-10-23 Thread ropers
On 23/10/2007, Chris Kuethe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: check the xorg supported hardware list... or the SEE ALSO section of Xorg(1) (...) Thank you. (Thanks to Dmitrij as well.) I gather ATI and NVIDIA appear to be better supported than most others. Is that true? In case I end up making a

Is the PF mailinglist still blocking gmail users?

2007-10-23 Thread Siju George
Hi, Just wondering if the PF mailing list is still blocking gmail users. Can't contact Daniel because his email ID is also on the same mail server. Any Idea which all domains are blocked in the PF mailing list so that I can subscribe to a free email service that is not blocked? Thank you so

Problem with raid 1 in server dell

2007-10-23 Thread José Christian Rodríguez
Hi list, My system was freeze and when reboot show: /dev/rsd0a: file system is clean;not checking /dev/rsd0d: file system is clean;not checking /dev/rsd0e: file system is clean;not checking /dev/rsd0g: INCORRECT BLOCK COUNT I=2699655 (20 should be 16) (CORRECTED) PARTIALLY TRUNCATED INODE

Re: Can anyone recommend a cheap and mature, well-supported graphics board for OpenBSD?

2007-10-23 Thread Antti Harri
On Tue, 23 Oct 2007, ropers wrote: In case I end up making a (small) new purchase: Are there any vendors who have been behaving well documentation-wise, and whom I should reward with my custom? In my opinion: ATI. Has anyone been a dick who should be avoided? Nvidia. -- Antti Harri

Re: Is the PF mailinglist still blocking gmail users?

2007-10-23 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
Siju George [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just wondering if the PF mailing list is still blocking gmail users. Can't contact Daniel because his email ID is also on the same mail server. It could be that gmail's pool of possible outgoing servers is a little too big and the retries too random for

Re: Network Time Synchronization using timed or ntpd or a Combination?

2007-10-23 Thread Clint Pachl
Darrin Chandler wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 11:49:57AM -0600, Chris Kuethe wrote: On 10/23/07, Boris Goldberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The ntpd from OBSD is raw and lame yet. It takes days (!) to really synchronize, adjusting time and clock frequency back and forth (even if

Re: max-src-conn-rate rule question

2007-10-23 Thread david l goodrich
Nobody? Sad, it's still doing it. On Sun, Oct 21, 2007 at 02:22:43PM -0500, david l goodrich wrote: I've set up a max-src-conn-rate rule on my gateway router to mitigate brute-force ssh attacks. This router protects a /28 subnet, 25.108.82.80/28. The relevant rules: # pfctl -sr | grep

Re: Network Time Synchronization using timed or ntpd or a Combination?

2007-10-23 Thread Theo de Raadt
That is a very interesting anecdote. That has got to make Henning proud; hell I'm proud of him. The amazing thing is that the ntpd binary on my i386 is only 34.4K. The ntpd binary (non-OpenNTPD) on my i386 FreeBSD media center is 263K, not to mention all of the other ntp* binaries, which

Re: Network Time Synchronization using timed or ntpd or a Combination?

2007-10-23 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Chris Kuethe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If that's not good enough for you, the ntp.org daemon is in ports. Actually, the ntp.org daemon performs poorly on OpenBSD since we don't supply ntp_adjtime(2). -- Christian naddy Weisgerber [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: max-src-conn-rate rule question

2007-10-23 Thread Calomel
David, Was the offending client completing the 3-way handshake everytime it connected? For stateful TCP connections, limits on established connections (connec- tions which have completed the TCP 3-way handshake) can also be enforced per source IP. The max-src-conn-rate number/seconds limit the

Re: max-src-conn-rate rule question

2007-10-23 Thread Rob
On 10/23/07, david l goodrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nobody? Sad, it's still doing it. On Sun, Oct 21, 2007 at 02:22:43PM -0500, david l goodrich wrote: I've set up a max-src-conn-rate rule on my gateway router to mitigate brute-force ssh attacks. This router protects a /28 subnet,

Re: writing non-ascii characters via SSH

2007-10-23 Thread Andrew Pantyukhin
On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 09:40:08AM -0400, Juan Miscaro wrote: I am currently experiencing difficulty in writing text files containing French characters on my OpenBSD 4.0 server via SSH. On both the FreeBSD client system and on the OpenBSD server system I have the following: ~/.profile:

Re: Network Time Synchronization using timed or ntpd or a Combination?

2007-10-23 Thread Clint Pachl
Theo de Raadt wrote: That is a very interesting anecdote. That has got to make Henning proud; hell I'm proud of him. The amazing thing is that the ntpd binary on my i386 is only 34.4K. The ntpd binary (non-OpenNTPD) on my i386 FreeBSD media center is 263K, not to mention all of the other ntp*

Re: Network Time Synchronization using timed or ntpd or a Combination?

2007-10-23 Thread Clint Pachl
Henning Brauer wrote: * Boris Goldberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-23 15:50]: CP One system would get time from the NTP pool and all other servers on CP the network would sync to the local server. You don't really need ntpd on all systems. One (timeserver) runs ntpd, and others use

Re: Network Time Synchronization using timed or ntpd or a Combination?

2007-10-23 Thread Martin Schröder
2007/10/23, Darrin Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: pool.ntp.org and score quite well. In fact, they compare favorably to servers running the more heavyweight ntp daemons. While we are talking about ntpd: Is there hope of an update of the portable version? The debian port is still at 3.9... Best

high-end audio drivers [was: OSS audio drivers]

2007-10-23 Thread Jan Stary
What is the relation of OpenBSD's audio drivers to the OSS project? What, if anything, does opensourcing (GPL, I know) their code mean for our audio drivers? In particular, does that mean (future) support for the high-end soundcards such as M-Audio Delta? There's work in progress on

Re: max-src-conn-rate rule question

2007-10-23 Thread david l goodrich
On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 02:55:41PM -0700, Rob wrote: On 10/23/07, david l goodrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nobody? Sad, it's still doing it. On Sun, Oct 21, 2007 at 02:22:43PM -0500, david l goodrich wrote: I've set up a max-src-conn-rate rule on my gateway router to mitigate

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-23 Thread Enache Adrian
On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 03:16:31PM +0300, Lars NoodC)n wrote: Granted that quote is from a competitor (VMware, which seems to be a broken linux kernel) but MS has 'partnered' with XenSource and we know what the ultimate results will be. The choices narrow. Can kqemu be compiled for OBSD?

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-23 Thread adam . getchell
Virtualization seems to have a lot of security benefits. Rootkits can lie to DomU but not Dom0, and of course snapshotting, migration etc is *really* nice. Dom0 in OpenBSD in a current Xen implementation (with HVM) would be a dream. I'd switch wholesale, and buy a CD for every server (as I

Re: max-src-conn-rate rule question

2007-10-23 Thread Rob
On 10/23/07, david l goodrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 02:55:41PM -0700, Rob wrote: On Sun, Oct 21, 2007 at 02:22:43PM -0500, david l goodrich wrote: I've set up a max-src-conn-rate rule on my gateway router to mitigate brute-force ssh attacks. This router

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-23 Thread Theo de Raadt
Virtualization seems to have a lot of security benefits. You've been smoking something really mind altering, and I think you should share it. x86 virtualization is about basically placing another nearly full kernel, full of new bugs, on top of a nasty x86 architecture which barely has correct

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-23 Thread Damien Miller
On Tue, 23 Oct 2007, Theo de Raadt wrote: Virtualization seems to have a lot of security benefits. You've been smoking something really mind altering, and I think you should share it. x86 virtualization is about basically placing another nearly full kernel, full of new bugs, on top of a

Re: max-src-conn-rate rule question

2007-10-23 Thread Vijay Sankar
On October 23, 2007 07:30:25 pm david l goodrich wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 02:55:41PM -0700, Rob wrote: On 10/23/07, david l goodrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nobody? Sad, it's still doing it. On Sun, Oct 21, 2007 at 02:22:43PM -0500, david l goodrich wrote: I've set up a

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-23 Thread Ben Goren
On 2007 Oct 23, at 5:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Virtualization seems to have a lot of security benefits. ``Seems'' is the key word, here. On hardware like an IBM mainframe that can acutally support what's necessary for secure virtual machines, sure. On x86? Well, it'll keep your kid

Re: max-src-conn-rate rule question

2007-10-23 Thread david l goodrich
On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 05:59:31PM -0700, Rob wrote: On 10/23/07, david l goodrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 02:55:41PM -0700, Rob wrote: Note that I wouldn't use a flush global directive for a rule like this, because it can lead to a neat DoS where somebody can

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-23 Thread bofh
On 10/23/07, Ben Goren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But that's about it. I suppose running Windows virtual machines on a real OpenBSD machine might ``have a lot of security benefits'' in some perverted sense of the words, but it's not like the VM is magically going to protect the virtual

Re: max-src-conn-rate rule question

2007-10-23 Thread david l goodrich
On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 05:46:45PM -0400, Calomel wrote: David, Was the offending client completing the 3-way handshake everytime it connected? For stateful TCP connections, limits on established connections (connec- tions which have completed the TCP 3-way handshake) can also be enforced

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-23 Thread Adam Getchell
On 10/23/07, Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Virtualization seems to have a lot of security benefits. You've been smoking something really mind altering, and I think you should share it. Sure! Here's some research one of my colleagues (with whom I've discussed this a lot) did on the