2008/5/4 Marco Peereboom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Yes. NVIDIA refuses to make a useful open source driver. It is barely
> functional and it generally sucks really really bad. Stay away from
> NVIDIA when doing open source.
Yes I know about this binary blob. Even FreeBSD users are forced to
use
Oops I sent this to Nick and not the list...
On 28/04/2008, at 1:39 AM, Nick Holland wrote:
Damon McMahon wrote:
Greetings,
Can anyone enlighten me as to why DHCP clients are no longer
retrieving their domain name from my OpenBSD DHCP/DNS server which I
recently upgraded from 4.1 to 4.3 via 4
On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Marco Peereboom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just a few days ago I answered this question. Simply look for it.
if you could tell me the email subject. I've looked for every mail
from [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the misc (from gmail's search options) and
found none nvidia
Owain Ainsworth wrote:
> On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 07:56:33PM +0200, Jordi Espasa Clofent wrote:
>> Yes, I know, it's completely a dumb question; but I'm curious about it.
>>
>> I'm just learning C applied in networking area and I wonder what editor is
>> preferred by OpenBSD developers.
>>
>> At pre
On Saturday 03 May 2008 21:20:29 Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 03:48:36PM -0600, Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez wrote:
> > "Real men use".whatever editor is comfortable for them.
> >
> > Vi, vim, emacs, xwpe, anjuta, kdevelop, joe, ed, etcused by a stupid
> > guy does not produ
Mihai Popescu B.S. wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Since the applications packages are not updated anymore for -release /
> -stable I decided to follow the snapshots. I know that this way is for
> experienced users and I'm not as good as a developer but I need to stay
> with this. The FAQ is not so rich in
On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 9:18 PM, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 02:15:19PM -0400, bofh wrote:
> > Real men use ed.
>
> No, real men get it right the first time and don't need to edit, they
> just use echo or something.
Hush now, or I'll make you use teco! :
On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 03:48:36PM -0600, Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez wrote:
> "Real men use".whatever editor is comfortable for them.
>
> Vi, vim, emacs, xwpe, anjuta, kdevelop, joe, ed, etcused by a stupid
> guy does not produce quality code at all.
>
> So...try all and choose the most comf
On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 02:15:19PM -0400, bofh wrote:
> Real men use ed.
>
No, real men get it right the first time and don't need to edit, they
just use echo or something.
:)
Doug.
On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 07:56:33PM +0200, Jordi Espasa Clofent wrote:
> Yes, I know, it's completely a dumb question; but I'm curious about it.
>
> I'm just learning C applied in networking area and I wonder what editor is
> preferred by OpenBSD developers.
>
> At present moment I use vim.
/usr/b
On Sat, 3 May 2008, Ben Calvert wrote:
> On May 3, 2008, at 12:56 AM, Richard Toohey wrote:
>
> > On 3/05/2008, at 6:21 PM, Richard Toohey wrote:
> > >
> > $ cc -lm test_pow.c
> > $
> >
> ok, this fixes it. i'll attempt to understand it when more awake. Thanks!
It has been this way since din
Hi,
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 03:38:13AM +0530, debian developer wrote:
> 1. BSD license is completely free. No one needs to give back changes
> forcibly(the GPL way), hence this is completely free.
> If what i hear is correct, there are companies(Microsoft) which
> take BSD code (network stack
Just a few days ago I answered this question. Simply look for it.
On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 05:47:57PM -0300, Nenhum_de_Nos wrote:
> On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Marco Peereboom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Yes. NVIDIA refuses to make a useful open source driver. It is barely
> > functional
Jacob Meuser ha scritto:
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 03:38:13AM +0530, debian developer wrote:
Hello,
[snip]
the question is, how is porting free software to non-free platforms
ok, but providing easier ways to install non-free software on free
platforms wrong?
With 2 doubleclick you c
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
I have got the following situation:
- wan nic: 192.168.0.2/24 - router 192.168.0.1
- vpn nic: 192.168.1.2/24 - router 192.168.1.1
- lan nic: 192.168.2.1/24 - client 192.168.2.99
The default route goes to 192.168.0.1. What I want is to leave the
default route and
On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 7:10 PM, Jacob Meuser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 03:38:13AM +0530, debian developer wrote:
> > I have a few questions(no, not which license is better.:):
>
It all depends on what you want to do. At the very basic level, the GPL
gives freedom to th
On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 7:22 PM, bofh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> But today, my linux boxes at work can authenticate using kerberos. This
> is a big win for me.
>
That is - authenticate to AD using kerberos. Sorry for any confusion.
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On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 03:38:13AM +0530, debian developer wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Let me make a few things clear. I am a newbie. I'm not a troll but a
> seriously curious guy wanting to know.
> I searched google but could not find any clear explanation. Please
> point me in the right direction if thi
debian developer wrote:
Let me make a few things clear. I am a newbie. I'm not a troll but a
seriously curious guy wanting to know.
That's what all the trolls say.
If what i hear is correct, there are companies(Microsoft) which
take BSD code (network stack i hear) and made it proprietary
On 13:51:58 May 03, Robert C Wittig wrote:
> vi/vim.
>
> I use it for most of my editing tasks, not just writing C code.
I use vim since it enhances my coding speed in a big way.
As to KNF I guess it is just a habit that I want to inculcate for all my
C coding. Right now it is voluntary and occa
On May 3, 2008, at 4:47 PM, Nenhum_de_Nos wrote:
On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Marco Peereboom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Yes. NVIDIA refuses to make a useful open source driver. It is
barely
functional and it generally sucks really really bad. Stay away from
NVIDIA when doing open sourc
On 5/3/08, debian developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 1. BSD license is completely free. No one needs to give back changes
> forcibly(the GPL way), hence this is completely free.
> If what i hear is correct, there are companies(Microsoft) which
> take BSD code (network stack i hear) and m
Hello,
Let me make a few things clear. I am a newbie. I'm not a troll but a
seriously curious guy wanting to know.
I searched google but could not find any clear explanation. Please
point me in the right direction if this has been discussed before.
Please spare me the flames and do not reply if yo
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"Real men use".whatever editor is comfortable for them.
Vi, vim, emacs, xwpe, anjuta, kdevelop, joe, ed, etcused by a stupid
guy does not produce quality code at all.
So...try all and choose the most comfortable editor for you.
Cheers,
On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Marco Peereboom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes. NVIDIA refuses to make a useful open source driver. It is barely
> functional and it generally sucks really really bad. Stay away from
> NVIDIA when doing open source.
by any means this is criticism, just for in
Hi Toni,
Toni Mueller wrote on Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 05:56:14PM +0200:
> On Mon, 04.02.2008 at 01:03:13 +0100, Ingo Schwarze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> When you request a non-existant package,
>> printing an error message and exiting is OK imho.
>
> it would be better to not be offered non-exis
On 5/2/08, Philip Guenther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> (Since the feedback on the patch has petered out, I suppose I should
> break it into logical chunks and send them to the tech list for
> piece-wise consideration.)
My fault, as usual. If you'd do that, I'll try to get them reviewed
and co
Yes. NVIDIA refuses to make a useful open source driver. It is barely
functional and it generally sucks really really bad. Stay away from
NVIDIA when doing open source.
On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 08:48:48PM +1000, Sunnz wrote:
> I am just wondering if the NV driver for nVidia cards are supposed to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have a ppp(oe) problem under openbsd 4.2 (with 009_ppp.patch patch
> applied).
>
You probably should try in-kernel pppoe instead of doing things in user-land.
See man 4 pppoe for details.
- Alexey.
vim of course!
the emacs people are weird :-)
On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 07:56:33PM +0200, Jordi Espasa Clofent wrote:
> Yes, I know, it's completely a dumb question; but I'm curious about it.
>
> I'm just learning C applied in networking area and I wonder what editor is
> preferred by OpenBSD deve
Hello,
I have got the following situation:
- wan nic: 192.168.0.2/24 - router 192.168.0.1
- vpn nic: 192.168.1.2/24 - router 192.168.1.1
- lan nic: 192.168.2.1/24 - client 192.168.2.99
The default route goes to 192.168.0.1. What I want is to leave the
default route and nat the traffic just from
On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Alexander Schrijver <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Real men use butterflies.
>
> On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 02:15:19PM -0400, bofh wrote:
> > Real men use ed.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 5/3/08, Jordi Espasa Clofent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Yes, I know, it's completely a
On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 02:15:19PM -0400, bofh wrote:
> Real men use ed.
No.
REAL programmers use ...
http://xkcd.com/378/
Sorry, couldn't resist ;)
Andreas.
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Jordi Espasa Clofent wrote:
Yes, I know, it's completely a dumb question; but I'm curious about it.
I'm just learning C applied in networking area and I wonder what editor
is preferred by OpenBSD developers.
At present moment I use vim.
vi/vim.
I use it for most of my editing tasks, not j
Real men use butterflies.
On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 02:15:19PM -0400, bofh wrote:
> Real men use ed.
>
>
>
> On 5/3/08, Jordi Espasa Clofent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Yes, I know, it's completely a dumb question; but I'm curious about it.
> >
> > I'm just learning C applied in networking are
2008/5/4 Alexander Schrijver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> >
>
> I think unplugging the network cable(s) would be more secure.
>
What if the OP is on wireless? (Using WEP too! :O). I suggest they
have the block all rules anyway, just to be safe... ya know, in case
of a thunder storm, kids may not wan
On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 07:56:33PM +0200, Jordi Espasa Clofent wrote:
> Yes, I know, it's completely a dumb question; but I'm curious about it.
>
> I'm just learning C applied in networking area and I wonder what editor is
> preferred by OpenBSD developers.
>
> At present moment I use vim.
>
> --
On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 07:56:33PM +0200, Jordi Espasa Clofent wrote:
> Yes, I know, it's completely a dumb question; but I'm curious about it.
>
> I'm just learning C applied in networking area and I wonder what editor
> is preferred by OpenBSD developers.
>
> At present moment I use vim.
>
I
On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 09:38:01PM +1000, Sunnz wrote:
> 2008/4/30 macintoshzoom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > ""
> > # block nmap OS detection scans somewhat (-O)
> > block in quick proto tcp flags FUP/WEUAPRSF
> > block in quick proto tcp flags WEUAPRSF/WEUAPRSF
> > block in quick proto tcp flags
> Yes, I know, it's completely a dumb question; but I'm curious about it.
>
> I'm just learning C applied in networking area and I wonder what editor
> is preferred by OpenBSD developers.
>
> At present moment I use vim.
The developers are known to use vi variants (nvi, vim) and emacs
variants
Real men use ed.
On 5/3/08, Jordi Espasa Clofent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes, I know, it's completely a dumb question; but I'm curious about it.
>
> I'm just learning C applied in networking area and I wonder what editor
> is preferred by OpenBSD developers.
>
> At present moment I use vim.
Stuart, I appreciate your insight. In the end I went for a full backup and a
clean install.
Thanks
Original Message
From: Sunnz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Apparently from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Marten Rizwan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: misc@openbsd.org
Subject: Re: upgrade 4.2 (i386) ->
On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 07:56:33PM +0200, Jordi Espasa Clofent wrote:
> Yes, I know, it's completely a dumb question; but I'm curious about it.
>
> I'm just learning C applied in networking area and I wonder what editor is
> preferred by OpenBSD developers.
>
> At present moment I use vim.
I aske
vim :)
LG Manuel
On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 07:56:33PM +0200, Jordi Espasa Clofent wrote:
> Yes, I know, it's completely a dumb question; but I'm curious about it.
>
> I'm just learning C applied in networking area and I wonder what editor is
> preferred by OpenBSD developers.
>
> At present moment
Yes, I know, it's completely a dumb question; but I'm curious about it.
I'm just learning C applied in networking area and I wonder what editor
is preferred by OpenBSD developers.
At present moment I use vim.
--
Thanks,
Jordi Espasa Clofent
Ok I am using blackbox instead of xfwm4 now... still running on "Xfce"
but no more delays in anything. :)
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2008/5/4 Jacob Meuser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> well, WHICH nVidia card? don't you think that might matter? any clues
> in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
>
> the following machine uses the nv driver, and I don't see what you describe
> under either blackbox or kde.
>
Well I am suspecting it is a
Hello there.
I have a ppp(oe) problem under openbsd 4.2 (with 009_ppp.patch patch
applied).
I have router under openbsd, which connects to the ISP through adsl
modem (with pppoe). ppp starts with option -ddial, which means that it
would reconnect if the link drops down. But it seems it doesn
On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 08:48:48PM +1000, Sunnz wrote:
> I am just wondering if the NV driver for nVidia cards are supposed to
> be slow, for just the desktop? That is, no 3D.
>
> I am currently running Xfce Desktop on 4.2-release, just surfing the
> web and stuff, nothing heavy... and Desktop swi
I am just wondering if the NV driver for nVidia cards are supposed to
be slow, for just the desktop? That is, no 3D.
I am currently running Xfce Desktop on 4.2-release, just surfing the
web and stuff, nothing heavy... and Desktop switching, maximising
windows, and stuff takes unusually long time..
Owain Ainsworth wrote:
On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 12:54:05AM +0200, Alexander Hall wrote:
Hi!
What is the status of acpidock(4)? From source-changes@ etc I cannot tell
if it's considered usable or highly experimental.
Still the latter, unfortunately.
Ok. Would bug reports be useful or is it e
Alexander Bluhm, Alexander von Gernler, Alexandre Anriot,
Alexandre Ratchov, Anders Magnusson, Antoine Jacoutot,
Artur Grabowski, Austin Hook, Bernd Ahlers, Bob Beck, Brad Smith,
Bret Lambert, Can Erkin Acar, Chad Loder, Charles Longeau,
Chris Kuethe, Christian Weisgerber, Chri
Hi,
I have exactly the same problem as Jacob Yocom-Piatt.
The loud tone is a constant high-frequency tone, covering all other output.
I can't stand it much longer than two or three minutes.
My system:
OpenBSD 4.3-current GENERIC.MP i386
azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 "Intel 82801GB HD Audio"
On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 11:40:30PM +1100, Zoong PHAM wrote:
> After a fresh install of OBSD-4.3 x86 from the CD image downloaded from
> ftp.openbsd.org, I could not install many packages from few FTP
> sites, including ftp.openbsd.org.
>
> The error message was about c.43.0 and pthread.so.9.0 in
After a fresh install of OBSD-4.3 x86 from the CD image downloaded from
ftp.openbsd.org, I could not install many packages from few FTP
sites, including ftp.openbsd.org.
The error message was about c.43.0 and pthread.so.9.0 in /usr/lib.
I did not see any files with "c.43.0" and "pthread.so.9.0" in
On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 01:29:11PM +0200, Tobias Ulmer wrote:
> On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 12:04:53PM +0200, Ivo van der Sangen wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > After upgrading my Thinkpad t42 to 4.3-stable I noticed that while I was
> > logged
> > in through XDM and I run "shutdown -hp now" the screen tur
On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 12:54:05AM +0200, Alexander Hall wrote:
> Hi!
>
> What is the status of acpidock(4)? From source-changes@ etc I cannot tell
> if it's considered usable or highly experimental.
Still the latter, unfortunately.
>
> I just got my ultrabase X6 but the kernel panics both on "li
Hi Misc@,
Today I find a very difficult situation, I cannot find any shop in
Indonesia that have stocks on single port intel PRO/1000MT PCI NICs. So I
had to make a decision, replace this NICs with something more available
and that would be Dlink DFE530T NIC, which I had no experience on thi
On May 3, 2008, at 12:56 AM, Richard Toohey wrote:
On 3/05/2008, at 6:21 PM, Richard Toohey wrote:
$ cc -lm test_pow.c
$
ok, this fixes it. i'll attempt to understand it when more awake.
Thanks!
Ben
On Sat, 2008-05-03 at 21:41 +1000, Sunnz wrote:
> My little YouTube summary:
>
> http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=uPTcnzgseaQ
>
> Mhuahuahuahauha... ha...
Ugh... youtube?
Brad Walker
My little YouTube summary:
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=uPTcnzgseaQ
Mhuahuahuahauha... ha...
2008/4/30 macintoshzoom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> ""
> # block nmap OS detection scans somewhat (-O)
> block in quick proto tcp flags FUP/WEUAPRSF
> block in quick proto tcp flags WEUAPRSF/WEUAPRSF
> block in quick proto tcp flags SRAFU/WEUAPRSF
> block in quick proto tcp flags /WEUAPRSF
> bloc
On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 12:04:53PM +0200, Ivo van der Sangen wrote:
> Hello,
>
> After upgrading my Thinkpad t42 to 4.3-stable I noticed that while I was
> logged
> in through XDM and I run "shutdown -hp now" the screen turns black and the
> system doesn't halt properly. After rebooting the root
2008/5/2 Marten Rizwan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hello misc@,
> I could obviously do a clean install, but it
> would take little more effort to complete.
>
>
It is probably true the other way around...
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Hi,
While compiling Finch/ Pidgin on a recently-installed i386 4.3 OpenBSD
system, I encountered an issue where it gave me the following error:
/usr/include/ncurses.h:251: error: conflicting types for `wchar_t'
/usr/include/stddef.h:54: error: previous declaration of `wchar_t'
/usr/include/ncurse
Hello,
After upgrading my Thinkpad t42 to 4.3-stable I noticed that while I was logged
in through XDM and I run "shutdown -hp now" the screen turns black and the
system doesn't halt properly. After rebooting the root filesystem has to be
checked for errors, so this clearly is a bad halt.
OpenBSD
On 3/05/2008, at 6:21 PM, Richard Toohey wrote:
On 3/05/2008, at 6:18 PM, Ben Calvert wrote:
I'm sure i'm doing something really basic and stupid here, but i
can't seem to use pow() from math.h ???
ben:2$ cc test_pow.c
/tmp//ccy24322.o(.text+0x31): In function `main':
: undefined reference
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