Re: Multiboot OpenBSD with Vista

2009-05-18 Thread Bryan
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 04:19, Joachim Schipper joac...@joachimschipper.nl wrote: On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 01:08:14PM +0430, MANI wrote: Hi, First of all you need to know I am running OpenBSD on my laptop and PC at home happily as sole OS, but unfortunately I need to dual boot my PC at Office

Re: Why so cool OS doesn't have vuln database?

2009-05-18 Thread Yuriy Grishin
Thanks a lot! TomC!E! BodEC!r wrote: Read the FAQ please http://www.openbsd.org/stable.html 1) Get and update source code trough CVS 2) Rebuild kernel and boot with it 3) Rebuild binaries 4) Done There was thread about it last month I think.You haven't packages updated in -stable.You must use

Re: Why so cool OS doesn't have vuln database?

2009-05-18 Thread Yuriy Grishin
Indeed you're right. I've got the same experience with php5-gd library. The audit program told that this library is vulnerable but there was no patch available. So this message was about useless. On the other hand in most cases this sort of applications could save admin's time. TomC!E!

Re: Why so cool OS doesn't have vuln database?

2009-05-18 Thread Janne Johansson
Yuriy Grishin wrote: Indeed you're right. I've got the same experience with php5-gd library. The audit program told that this library is vulnerable but there was no patch available. So this message was about useless. On the other hand in most cases this sort of applications could save admin's

Re: Why so cool OS doesn't have vuln database?

2009-05-18 Thread Yuriy Grishin
Hi, Joachim I've got that you wanted to say. There are some tools for that are available. The main problem is that they detect an intrusion *after* the server is compromised. Intrusion detection systems are good but intrusion prevention systems are better. Joachim Schipper wrote: On Sun,

Re: Why so cool OS doesn't have vuln database?

2009-05-18 Thread Yuriy Grishin
As I said it's unreal for a guy from a Russian village. You may hit me for that but it's done in FreeBSD therefore it's possible. Janne Johansson wrote: Yuriy Grishin wrote: Indeed you're right. I've got the same experience with php5-gd library. The audit program told that this library

Re: Kylin

2009-05-18 Thread ropers
2009/5/18 (private) HKS hks.priv...@gmail.com: intellectual property Hello oxymoron.

Re: old and new pf tandem test ---help

2009-05-18 Thread Stuart Henderson
Why come to an OpenBSD list asking about FreeBSD pf? I note that you didn't come to ask about getting OpenBSD running on your new hardware. (It might have been quite a simple thing to fix). You'd be better off asking on a FreeBSD list or the general pf list. Most of us here don't know FreeBSD pf.

Re: Problem with pf/nat (bug?) and aliases in internal interface

2009-05-18 Thread Stuart Henderson
As a test, can you try it without using the 192.168.20.1-192.168.20.10 address range format, and see if that behaves any better? You can use this instead: {192.168.20.0/29 192.168.20.8/31 192.168.20.10} In gmane.os.openbsd.misc, you wrote: Scenario: int_if with two ip addresses in two

Re: Problem with pf/nat (bug?) and aliases in internal interface

2009-05-18 Thread Cristiano Deana
On 5/18/09 9:46 AM, Stuart Henderson wrote: As a test, can you try it without using the 192.168.20.1-192.168.20.10 address range format, and see if that behaves any better? You can use this instead: {192.168.20.0/29 192.168.20.8/31 192.168.20.10} I already tried with 192.168.21.1,

Por favor leiam. apelo de mae....

2009-05-18 Thread vanessa de oliveira terra
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Re: Multiboot OpenBSD with legacy systems

2009-05-18 Thread Mathias Schmocker
Lars Nooden a icrit : Peter Kay - Syllopsium wrote: ... provided it's given plenty (32 bit : 2GB, 64 bit : 4GB) of RAM. I favour 64bit, even if the driver support is less comprehensive and the memory requirements are higher. Both can be pretty bad. I know very few stupid enough to try to use

Re: Package for kde4

2009-05-18 Thread Jan Stary
On May 18 02:42:07, Cem Kayali wrote: Hello! Could it be possible to include kde4 and its dependent ports into (snapshot) packages, so that we can test it? Sure. Go ahead.

Re: rt.fm CVS Mirror going funny?

2009-05-18 Thread Duncan Patton a Campbell
On Sun, 17 May 2009 03:29:13 -0400 Jeremy Huiskamp jer...@kamper.ca wrote: On 5/17/09 2:07 AM, Aaron W. Hsu wrote: Hey All, Has anyone else noticed issues with pulling src/sbin/ping/ping.c from anon...@rt.fm:/cvs? I get this error cvs [server aborted]: EOF while looking for

Re: OpenBSD 3.4 hanging after boot

2009-05-18 Thread Duncan Patton a Campbell
On Sat, 16 May 2009 15:46:35 -0400 Nick Holland n...@holland-consulting.net wrote: Also...32M would be about the minimum amount of RAM you would want to install on at the moment. If you don't have much of a scrap pile, you may have difficulty expanding old machines to the useful minimum.

Re: Raid controller?

2009-05-18 Thread Duncan Patton a Campbell
On Fri, 15 May 2009 20:40:44 -0600 (MDT) Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: On Fri, 15 May 2009, Chuck Robey wrote: I'm currently trying to verify something, because while I know makefiles really well, the ones for the FreeBSD kernel are too indirect for me, so I can't yet

Re: OpenBSD 3.4 hanging after boot

2009-05-18 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 04:46:33AM -0600, Duncan Patton a Campbell wrote: On Sat, 16 May 2009 15:46:35 -0400 Nick Holland n...@holland-consulting.net wrote: Also...32M would be about the minimum amount of RAM you would want to install on at the moment. If you don't have much of a

Re: Raid controller?

2009-05-18 Thread Tony Abernethy
Duncan Patton a Campbell wrote: On Fri, 15 May 2009 20:40:44 -0600 (MDT) Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: If any of the people we talked to at 3ware weren't such LYING BAGS OF HYPOCRITICAL SHIT we'd support their hardware Hard words, Theo. Do you think anyone you talked

FW: Raid controller?

2009-05-18 Thread Michal
Theo does have a point...you gain nothing from tip toeing around these issues...especially when dealing with people like them -Original Message- From: owner-m...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-m...@openbsd.org] On Behalf Of Duncan Patton a Campbell Sent: 18 May 2009 12:04 To: Theo de Raadt

Re: Raid controller?

2009-05-18 Thread Rod Whitworth
On Mon, 18 May 2009 05:04:24 -0600, Duncan Patton a Campbell wrote: Hard words, Theo. Do you think anyone you talked to could actually understand what you were sayin'? Dumb words, Dhu. Do you think anyone who reads this will think you could understand what you were meaning if you did not read

Re: old and new pf tandem test ---help

2009-05-18 Thread Henning Brauer
* mehma sarja mehmasa...@gmail.com [2009-05-17 19:43]: I want to test two pf firewalls in-line - an old openBSD (3.7 #50, i386) is on the 'outside' and a new FreeBSD (7.2 #0 amd64) is on the 'inside.' OpenBSD 3.7 and FreeBSD 7 are probably en par for pf. pf in a recent OpenBSD however is more

Re: old and new pf tandem test ---help

2009-05-18 Thread Henning Brauer
* mehma sarja mehmasa...@gmail.com [2009-05-18 03:28]: Thanks Ingo for your thoughts. Let me ask a simpler question, is there something wrong with the following line on a FreeBSD 7.2 pf? pass in log quick on em0 inet proto tcp from any to 121.209.23.121 port = imaps flags S/SA modulate state

PROPOSSITION CONFIDENTIALE

2009-05-18 Thread Deme Lamine
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Re: old and new pf tandem test ---help

2009-05-18 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 02:51:34PM +0200, Henning Brauer wrote: * mehma sarja mehmasa...@gmail.com [2009-05-18 03:28]: Thanks Ingo for your thoughts. Let me ask a simpler question, is there something wrong with the following line on a FreeBSD 7.2 pf? pass in log quick on em0 inet proto

OT Re: Kylin

2009-05-18 Thread Diana Eichert
On Sun, 17 May 2009, Nick Holland wrote: SNIP rant I, for one, would appreciate government agencies taking a paranoid, security-oriented approach to computer systems, rather than the approach most governments and businesses are using, which seems to boil down to, Security Second to Everything

Re: HD 'Analysis'

2009-05-18 Thread Tobias Walkowiak
On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 01:46:00PM +0200, Hannah Schroeter wrote: dd if=/dev/sd1c of=/dev/null bs=64k ^r Do yourself a favor and use the raw device. why? -- t.walkow...@wallstreet-online.de

Re: HD 'Analysis'

2009-05-18 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 03:21:25PM +0200, Tobias Walkowiak wrote: On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 01:46:00PM +0200, Hannah Schroeter wrote: dd if=/dev/sd1c of=/dev/null bs=64k ^r Do yourself a favor and use the raw device. why? Because you use block devices for

OT Re: Kylin

2009-05-18 Thread Jacob Yocom-Piatt
Duncan Patton a Campbell wrote: the chinese government really feels so vulnerable against U.S.? i mean, they say it like the WWIII will begin soon and we need to defend us on the cyberspace with our super-secure OS They're prob'ly as worried about their own hacks as anyone elses,

Re: HD 'Analysis'

2009-05-18 Thread Hannah Schroeter
Hi! On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 03:21:25PM +0200, Tobias Walkowiak wrote: On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 01:46:00PM +0200, Hannah Schroeter wrote: dd if=/dev/sd1c of=/dev/null bs=64k ^r Do yourself a favor and use the raw device. why? If nothing else, it'll be much faster. Kind

Re: Why so cool OS doesn't have vuln database?

2009-05-18 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 11:51:02AM +0500, Yuriy Grishin wrote: Hi, Joachim I've got that you wanted to say. There are some tools for that are available. The main problem is that they detect an intrusion *after* the server is compromised. Intrusion detection systems are good but intrusion

Re: HD 'Analysis'

2009-05-18 Thread David Vasek
On Mon, 18 May 2009, Otto Moerbeek wrote: On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 03:21:25PM +0200, Tobias Walkowiak wrote: On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 01:46:00PM +0200, Hannah Schroeter wrote: dd if=/dev/sd1c of=/dev/null bs=64k ^r Do yourself a favor and use the raw device. why?

relayd - trunked web pages

2009-05-18 Thread uday
Hi, I'm experiencing something very peculiar with relayd. I have relayd for quite sometime in production and I'm observing on a long term that relayd starts to trunk http responses and I don't seem to know why. When I restart relayd everything starts working again. Can anyone point to me a

Re: Kylin

2009-05-18 Thread (private) HKS
2009/5/18 Toma Bodar tomas.bod...@gmail.com: Common,you think that big western companies which have support from western governments care about it?And please don't make white knight from western civilization.Everywhere are pros and cons.What type of copyright and intellectual property you

Re: Kylin

2009-05-18 Thread Fosforo
I don't believe this is the final version... probably something running under Godson/Loongson ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loongson []s Fosforo On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 12:08 PM, (private) HKS hks.priv...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/5/18 Toma Bod ar tomas.bod...@gmail.com: Common,you think that

Re: mp3 stick as both an mp3 stick and an obsd install

2009-05-18 Thread ropers
2009/5/17 Jan Stary h...@stare.cz: Scenario: 4.5 installed on Emtec 2GB-FM mp3 player, using 1G of the 2G, the rest being 1G of FAT (a separate fdisk partition, labeled as sd0i). Everyting works BSD-wise, provided the machine I plug it in can boot off USB at all. Now, I still want to be able

Re: FW: Raid controller?

2009-05-18 Thread Theo de Raadt
If any of the people we talked to at 3ware weren't such LYING BAGS OF HYPOCRITICAL SHIT we'd support their hardware Hard words, Theo. Do you think anyone you talked to could actually understand what you were sayin'? I was not the only person who talked to 3Ware. Over the last 10 years

RAm capacity

2009-05-18 Thread Gustavo Polillo
in 4.5 release, what the RAM capacity ? 16,24,32,64GB?

Re: RAm capacity

2009-05-18 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 02:19:30PM -0300, Gustavo Polillo wrote: in 4.5 release, what the RAM capacity ? 16,24,32,64GB? 64MB (on a sun4c) -- :wq Claudio

Re: RAm capacity

2009-05-18 Thread Miod Vallat
in 4.5 release, what the RAM capacity ? 16,24,32,64GB? 64MB (on a sun4c) Actually, with the memory expansion board, you can use up to 128MB. Miod

Re: FW: Raid controller?

2009-05-18 Thread Duncan Patton a Campbell
On Mon, 18 May 2009 10:40:29 -0600 Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: If any of the people we talked to at 3ware weren't such LYING BAGS OF HYPOCRITICAL SHIT we'd support their hardware Hard words, Theo. Do you think anyone you talked to could actually understand what you

Re: Kylin

2009-05-18 Thread Duncan Patton a Campbell
On Mon, 18 May 2009 11:08:33 -0400 (private) HKS hks.priv...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/5/18 Toma Bodar tomas.bod...@gmail.com: Common,you think that big western companies which have support from western governments care about it?And please don't make white knight from western

Re: RAm capacity

2009-05-18 Thread STeve Andre'
On Monday 18 May 2009 13:19:30 Gustavo Polillo wrote: in 4.5 release, what the RAM capacity ? 16,24,32,64GB? Gustavo, OpenBSD runs on 17 or so hardware platforms, so your answer is kind of hard to answer. All the world is not i386. But I'll bet thats what you are asking about, and the answer

Re: aucat freezes sparc64 on -current

2009-05-18 Thread Alexandre Ratchov
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 09:03:06PM +0200, Mattieu Baptiste wrote: Hi all, I updated my machine to snapshot 2009-05-15 and the machine freezes when I start aucat : mattieu:/home/mattieu:2$ /usr/bin/aucat -l mattieu:/home/maschizo0: pci bus A error it seems related to the audio device

Re: aucat freezes sparc64 on -current

2009-05-18 Thread Mattieu Baptiste
Hi, it seems related to the audio device driver; aucat is a simple user process so it cant freeze the box by itself. do you manage to freeze the box if you use ``aucat -m play -l'' ie playback only mode ? Play-only mode works fine (it doesn't freeze the box). does it freeze if you start

make build fails on -STABLE

2009-05-18 Thread Ben Goren
I just installed 4.5 yesterday from install45.iso on an old Dell Precision laptop. dmesg here: http://trumpetpower.com/pub/dmesg.boot I unpacked source from the tarballs and did ``cvs -q up -rOPENBSD_4_5 - PAd'' A new kernel built, installed, and booted just fine. However, every time

Re: make build fails on -STABLE

2009-05-18 Thread Philip Guenther
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Ben Goren b...@trumpetpower.com wrote: ... A new kernel built, installed, and booted just fine. However, every time I try to do a make build, it bombs out in the exact same spot. I've re-run cvs without it finding any new / modified / deleted / etc. files.

Re: make build fails on -STABLE

2009-05-18 Thread Ben Goren
On 2009 May 18, at 4:27 PM, Philip Guenther wrote: On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Ben Goren b...@trumpetpower.com wrote: ... A new kernel built, installed, and booted just fine. However, every time I try to do a make build, it bombs out in the exact same spot. I've re-run cvs without it

Re: mp3 stick as both an mp3 stick and an obsd install

2009-05-18 Thread Nick Holland
ropers wrote: 2009/5/17 Jan Stary h...@stare.cz: Scenario: 4.5 installed on Emtec 2GB-FM mp3 player, using 1G of the 2G, the rest being 1G of FAT (a separate fdisk partition, labeled as sd0i). Everyting works BSD-wise, provided the machine I plug it in can boot off USB at all. Now, I still

Re: old and new pf tandem test ---help

2009-05-18 Thread mehma sarja
Otto, Henning and Stuart to-the-point answers. Thanks guys. I have taken the post over to FreeBSD list. However, Henning, I am curious why you call pf on anything but OpenBSD a starter drug? Is the performance difference that huge? pf on FreeBSD 7.2 is version 4.1. You have piqued my interest

Re: Kylin

2009-05-18 Thread Tomáš Bodžár
How China can somewhat breach copyright and intellectual property with BSD licence? ;-) 2009/5/18 (private) HKS hks.priv...@gmail.com: 2009/5/18 Toma B Bod ar tomas.bod...@gmail.com: Common,you think that big western companies which have support from western governments care about it?And

Re: old and new pf tandem test ---help

2009-05-18 Thread Theo de Raadt
Otto, Henning and Stuart to-the-point answers. Thanks guys. I have taken the post over to FreeBSD list. However, Henning, I am curious why you call pf on anything but OpenBSD a starter drug? Is the performance difference that huge? pf on FreeBSD 7.2 is version 4.1. The people you are