Re: website down from here

2011-06-21 Thread Fred Crowson
On 21 June 2011 05:37, Samuel Baldwin recursive.for...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/www.openbsd.org Simply openbsd.org works, however. -- Samuel Baldwin - logik.li openbsd.org and www.openbsd.org are two different systems see:

Re: website down from here

2011-06-21 Thread Fredrik Henbjork
On 06/21/2011 06:39 AM, Philip Guenther wrote: The market in baby mulching machines dropped out and the IPO won't be floated, so it's all being shut down. As long as I can still buy OpenBSD-based palestinian-baby-seeker-heads for my bulldozers, *I'm* a happy man. (My point it simple.

Re: Another weird notebook-booting problem.

2011-06-21 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2011-06-21, Sean Howard sil...@callysto.com wrote: I am also using a ProBook 4520s I am however using OpenBSD-4.9 amd-64. I could try to see if I can install -current, but it would take me a few days (find time, backup again, reinstall, etc), however - I have attached my amd64 dmesg.

Re: panic: ioapic0: can't alloc vector

2011-06-21 Thread Kapetanakis Giannis
On 20/06/11 13:24, Kapetanakis Giannis wrote: On 20/06/11 12:22, Kapetanakis Giannis wrote: Trying to install latest snapshot 19-Jun-2011 I got kernel panic. SHA256 checksums verified. Problem reported also with sendbug #6637 I've also tried to boot /bsd.sp with no luck Tried disable ioapic

VLANs on bridge

2011-06-21 Thread Dajka Tamas
Hi all, I've to establish a highly redundant firewall cluster with openbsd, but I got stuck with the config. The config: -2 CORE0 routers ( Cisco 7xxx ) -2 FW running OpenBSD 4.9 -2 internal Cisco 3750g switches ( SW01SW02 ) Please find attached the draft of the

USB disks softraid bioctl auto mounting Q

2011-06-21 Thread keith
Hi, I have a 1TB USB disk that I want to auto mount to my OBSD 4.9 server but I needed to encrypted the disk using softraid that works but now I can't figure out how to make the disk auto mount. Can someone help me ? The is where I am just now. Pluig in disk...sd0 appears... umass0 at

Re: USB disks softraid bioctl auto mounting Q

2011-06-21 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 10:39:55AM +0100, keith wrote: Hi, I have a 1TB USB disk that I want to auto mount to my OBSD 4.9 server but I needed to encrypted the disk using softraid that works but now I can't figure out how to make the disk auto mount. Can someone help me ? The is where I am

Re: VLANs on bridge

2011-06-21 Thread Dajka Tamas
Assigning one of the phys devices as vlandev to a vlan is not working. I mean, I can assign to them, but if vlan40 is assigned to hme2 and hme2 failes, than vlan40 will be down and hosts in vlan40 are unreacheable. So: ifconfig hme2 up ifconfig hme3 up ifconfig vlan40 create ifconfig

Re: USB disks softraid bioctl auto mounting Q

2011-06-21 Thread Ted Unangst
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 5:39 AM, keith ke...@scott-land.net wrote: Disk works fine. But if I reboot we need to issue the 'bioctl' line again and I am not sure how to do this. Same command as the first time. Put it in /etc/rc or /etc/rc.local or somewhere convenient.

bcrypt.c licensing

2011-06-21 Thread Aaron Patterson
Hi! I have a question about the license for bcrypt.c. The OpenBSD policy page (http://www.openbsd.org/policy.html) says: Berkeley rescinded the 3rd term (the advertising term) on 22 July 1999. Verbatim copies of the Berkeley license in the OpenBSD tree have that term removed. In addition,

Re: bcrypt.c licensing

2011-06-21 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 09:23:13AM -0700, Aaron Patterson wrote: Hi! I have a question about the license for bcrypt.c. The OpenBSD policy page (http://www.openbsd.org/policy.html) says: Berkeley rescinded the 3rd term (the advertising term) on 22 July 1999. Verbatim copies of the

Re: bcrypt.c licensing

2011-06-21 Thread Aaron Patterson
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 06:28:21PM +0200, Otto Moerbeek wrote: On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 09:23:13AM -0700, Aaron Patterson wrote: Hi! I have a question about the license for bcrypt.c. The OpenBSD policy page (http://www.openbsd.org/policy.html) says: Berkeley rescinded the 3rd term

Re: bcrypt.c licensing

2011-06-21 Thread Theo de Raadt
I have a question about the license for bcrypt.c. The OpenBSD policy page (http://www.openbsd.org/policy.html) says: Berkeley rescinded the 3rd term (the advertising term) on 22 July 1999. Verbatim copies of the Berkeley license in the OpenBSD tree have that term removed. That

Re: Latest snapshot packages: Interloper?

2011-06-21 Thread jared r r spiegel
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 01:34:47PM +1000, Rod Whitworth wrote: On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 18:28:10 -0400, STeve Andre' wrote: On 06/19/11 18:19, Rod Whitworth wrote: This popped up as the first file (in name order) when I went to see if there was a new bunch of pkgs to go with the install iso I'm

Sendmail+SSL+SASL

2011-06-21 Thread gdrm
Hello misc, I'm trying to configure OpenBSD4.9 with Sendmail as a mail server and so far, so good, I have a configuration with static IP, masked and with ssl support, but I can not figure out how to implement sasl, someonehas a link where to find information and guides on the subject? thanks

-I-

2011-06-21 Thread Friedrich Locke
I have just installed OpenBSD 4.9 and when i try to compile an ansi C source file it complains about using -I- and suggest -iquote. What is that? What does -iquote means ? May some one help me?

Re: Sendmail+SSL+SASL

2011-06-21 Thread roberth
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 23:24:11 +0200 gdrm g...@opensrv.org wrote: Hello misc, I'm trying to configure OpenBSD4.9 with Sendmail as a mail server and so far, so good, I have a configuration with static IP, masked and with ssl support, but I can not figure out how to implement sasl, someonehas a

Re: Sendmail+SSL+SASL

2011-06-21 Thread Vijay Sankar
On 2011-06-21, at 4:24 PM, gdrm wrote: Hello misc, I'm trying to configure OpenBSD4.9 with Sendmail as a mail server and so far, so good, I have a configuration with static IP, masked and with ssl support, but I can not figure out how to implement sasl, someonehas a link where to find

Re: -I-

2011-06-21 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Friedrich, Friedrich Locke wrote on Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 06:42:22PM -0300: I have just installed OpenBSD 4.9 and when i try to compile an ansi C source file it complains about using -I- and suggest -iquote. What is that? What does -iquote means ? To get you started, read gcc(1) and search

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Can command-line options be specified in any place?

2011-06-21 Thread vadimou
Hi, I'm considering migrating my desktop from Linux to OpenBSD but the main feature that kept me away from *BSD world for over a decade since I've first tried FreeBSD was the one that options must only be specified after command before any arguments. (At least that is true for basic commands).

Re: Can command-line options be specified in any place?

2011-06-21 Thread Ingo Schwarze
vadi...@gmail.com wrote on Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 07:39:31PM -0400: ls -l foo -h That's ugly, useless and dangerous. Is there an easy way to get the desired behavior on OpenBSD? No. We don't desire it. If you want Linux, use Linux.

Re: Can command-line options be specified in any place?

2011-06-21 Thread Abel Abraham Camarillo Ojeda
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:39 PM, vadi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm considering migrating my desktop from Linux to OpenBSD but the main feature that kept me away from *BSD world for over a decade since I've first tried FreeBSD was the one that options must only be specified after command

Re: Can command-line options be specified in any place?

2011-06-21 Thread vadimou
Please continue to use Linux. That's ugly, useless and dangerous. Oops, looks like that was a holy war type of question. Sorry I did not want to start that. If you want Linux, use Linux. It's not that I want specifically Linux. I've just decided to look for a system that cat satisfy me from

Re: Can command-line options be specified in any place?

2011-06-21 Thread Benny Lofgren
On 2011-06-22 03.03, vadi...@gmail.com wrote: Please continue to use Linux. That's ugly, useless and dangerous. Oops, looks like that was a holy war type of question. Sorry I did not want to start that. If you want Linux, use Linux. It's not that I want specifically Linux. I've just

Re: Can command-line options be specified in any place?

2011-06-21 Thread Theo de Raadt
It is pretty clear you are a troll.

Can one interface have an IP address and bridge as well?

2011-06-21 Thread Paul Suh
Folks, Is this possible and/or a good idea? I have a router with three interfaces: sis0: external interface, IPv4 address 1.2.3.4/24 sis1: internal interface, IPv4 address 192.168.1.1/24 sis2: DMZ interface, IPv4 address 192.168.2.1/24 NAT rules pass all traffic from the internal and DMZ zones

Re: Can command-line options be specified in any place?

2011-06-21 Thread Amit Kulkarni
Consider the fact that Unix have been around since the 1970's, and the *BSD flavor is as direct a descendant of the original look, feel and intent as you can possibly find today. Linux is, in that regard, an abomination. It's the bastard child of someone not properly trained in the unix way,

Re: Can command-line options be specified in any place?

2011-06-21 Thread john slee
On 22 June 2011 11:48, Benny Lofgren bl-li...@lofgren.biz wrote: Linux is, in that regard, an abomination. It's the bastard child of someone not properly trained in the unix way, who made stuff up as he went without regard for history, continuity, elegance or, for that matter, backwards

Re: Can command-line options be specified in any place?

2011-06-21 Thread Johan Beisser
On Jun 21, 2011, at 18:48, Benny Lofgren bl-li...@lofgren.biz wrote: On 2011-06-22 03.03, vadi...@gmail.com wrote: Please continue to use Linux. That's ugly, useless and dangerous. Oops, looks like that was a holy war type of question. Sorry I did not want to start that. It's not. Linus

Re: Can command-line options be specified in any place?

2011-06-21 Thread vadimou
Sorry I really did not want to start any flame. I just thought that getting answer from the mailing list would be faster than spending my time studying source code of the new system. What you should do is relearn the proper way. :-) Ok, let me turn my question the other way around. Suppose I

Re: Can one interface have an IP address and bridge as well?

2011-06-21 Thread Shane Lazarus
Heya On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Paul Suh pl...@goodeast.com wrote: Folks, Is this possible and/or a good idea? I have a router with three interfaces: sis0: external interface, IPv4 address 1.2.3.4/24 sis1: internal interface, IPv4 address 192.168.1.1/24 sis2

Re: Can command-line options be specified in any place?

2011-06-21 Thread Johan Beisser
On Jun 21, 2011, at 20:20, vadi...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry I really did not want to start any flame. I just thought that getting answer from the mailing list would be faster than spending my time studying source code of the new system. What you should do is relearn the proper way. :-) Ok,

Re: Can command-line options be specified in any place?

2011-06-21 Thread Josh Rickmar
vadi...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry I really did not want to start any flame. I just thought that getting answer from the mailing list would be faster than spending my time studying source code of the new system. What you should do is relearn the proper way. :-) Ok, let me turn my question the

Re: Can command-line options be specified in any place?

2011-06-21 Thread Andres Perera
you can compile gnu coreutils the reason posix and bsd dont allow options after operands is because it complicates the implementation of getopt and it introduces ambiguity, specially with options that take arguments the gnu getopt has to look at the first characters of every argv member unless

Re: Can command-line options be specified in any place?

2011-06-21 Thread vadimou
On 6/21/11, Johan Beisser j...@caustic.org wrote: I use Bash and OpenBSD's ksh. In both CTRL-a gets me back to the beginning of the line. I use zsh in vi mode. So Esc, Shift+6, f, -, a, h (total 7 keys) or ls -lh !!$ (total 10 keys). Just adding -h requires pressing 3 keys. Looks like I'm too

Re: Can command-line options be specified in any place?

2011-06-21 Thread vadimou
you can compile gnu coreutils Thank you. That sounds like a good idea. I'll try that. If you want pleasure and usability point of view, you are not looking in the good place. Stay with Linux. Linux started to disappoint me to the point when I decided to try something else. OpenBSD has its