Re: rcs mandoc nits

2013-08-12 Thread Jason McIntyre
On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 09:41:42PM +0200, Jan Stary wrote: This is small diff to the manpages in /usr/src/usr.bin/rcs What is the advantage of using '\*(Lt' instead of '' ? Is that advantage also valid for things like \*(Ltstdio.h\*(Gt ? All the other ''s and ''s are typed literally ...

Re: yacc(1) LALR reference

2013-08-12 Thread Jason McIntyre
On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 11:01:44PM +0200, Jan Stary wrote: This diff to yacc(1) adds a reference to the original LALR(1) paper. I am not sure about the markup, as mandoc render it as F. DeRemer and T. J. Pennello, Efficient Computation of LALR(1) Look-Ahead Sets, 4, TOPLAS, 4,

Re: yacc(1) mandoc nits

2013-08-12 Thread Jason McIntyre
On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 10:49:27PM +0200, Jan Stary wrote: Tha yacc(1) manpage uses .Tn LALR(1) .Tn LR(1) I don't think LALR or LR is a tradename. This seems to be what mdoc(7) describes as: Since this macro is often implemented to use a small caps font, it

Re: Network appliance recomendation.

2013-08-12 Thread Evan Root
I would recommend http://www.mini-itx.com/ and a cheap four port ethernet card. I just did a quick look around google and it looks like all of the four port 100mb cards are pci-x. You also will need a pci riser like here for example

Re: Don't read this - OpenBSD: Not Free Not Fuctional and Definetly Not Secure | BSD, the truth - as author rewrites your comments and can't spell

2013-08-12 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 17:51:43 +0100 Kaya Saman wrote: I think it's much harder to learn since the documentation is more 'sparse' and also much more limited in certain areas kernel PPP daemon for example :-) - it took me a while to figure out how to get PPPoE working. Well I agree and

assorted mdoc(7) nits

2013-08-12 Thread Jan Stary
Reading the shorter manpages in .../man1/ as an excercise while learning mdoc(7), I made this little diff of assorted typos, forgotten .Pas. missing .Mts and such. Index: sbin/newfs_ext2fs/newfs_ext2fs.8 === RCS file:

Re: Weekly digest, Issue 1685 (81 messages)

2013-08-12 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2013-08-11, Damon Getsman damo.g...@gmail.com wrote: The solution was, indeed, dealing with creating a hardlink to somewhere within the chroot'ed jail; in this case under /var/www/var/run/mysql/mysql.sock after the appropriate path was created. Anyway I just thought that I'd post that

.shrc vs ~/.shrc

2013-08-12 Thread Jan Stary
This is what happens on 5.4-beta/i386 (and any other version I got my hands on): $ cd $ pwd /home/hans $ . .shrc /bin/ksh: .: .shrc: not found $ . ~/.shrc $ echo $SHELL /bin/ksh Why is it that ksh can find ~/.shrc and '.' it, but

Re: .shrc vs ~/.shrc

2013-08-12 Thread Miod Vallat
$ . .shrc /bin/ksh: .: .shrc: not found $ . ~/.shrc $ echo $SHELL /bin/ksh Why is it that ksh can find ~/.shrc and '.' it, but cannot find .shrc, which is the very same file? Because '.' is not in your $PATH. Miod

Re: assorted mdoc(7) nits

2013-08-12 Thread Jason McIntyre
On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 12:04:30PM +0200, Jan Stary wrote: Reading the shorter manpages in .../man1/ as an excercise while learning mdoc(7), I made this little diff of assorted typos, forgotten .Pas. missing .Mts and such. thanks for these. i've committed most, with some exceptions noted

Re: poptop on OpenBSD 5.3

2013-08-12 Thread Marko Cupać
On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 14:46:20 -0600 Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez alv...@alvaromantilla.com wrote: Hi Wesley, Lo__c, Thanks for the advice. I didn't know about npppd. It seems an interesting option. I am going to try that. +1 for npppd, i wrote howto (in Serbian though) here:

Install drivers

2013-08-12 Thread josef . winger
How can I force OBSD to install drivers, that are not needed on the running hardware? This may sound strange on a first sight, but in my situation I have OBSD on a flash drive that runs via flashrd from RAM and this RAM can be located in various (i386/ARM64) systems. I want to support as much

Re: Install drivers

2013-08-12 Thread Matthew Weigel
On 08/11/2013 10:35 AM, josef.win...@email.de wrote: I want to support as much hardware as possible 'out of the box' and since a network can't be assumed, I need to preinstall the drivers. GENERIC supports as much hardware as possible 'out of the box.' -- Matthew Weigel hacker unique idempot

Re: Install drivers

2013-08-12 Thread Jan Stary
On Aug 12 10:59:39, uni...@idempot.net wrote: On 08/11/2013 10:35 AM, josef.win...@email.de wrote: I want to support as much hardware as possible 'out of the box' and since a network can't be assumed, I need to preinstall the drivers. GENERIC supports as much hardware as possible 'out of

radeondrm on Dell T100

2013-08-12 Thread Luis Coronado
This is the first machine I try with the new radeomdrm code: * got the latest from cvs * installed the radeomdrm firmware * restart * This machine does not run X * besides the new kms console, nothing changed OpenBSD 5.4-current (GENERIC.MP) #6: Mon Aug 12 08:28:16 CST 2013

Re: Install drivers

2013-08-12 Thread Mats O Jansson
On Mon, 12 Aug 2013, Matthew Weigel wrote: On 08/11/2013 10:35 AM, josef.win...@email.de wrote: I want to support as much hardware as possible 'out of the box' and since a network can't be assumed, I need to preinstall the drivers. GENERIC supports as much hardware as possible 'out of

Re: Install drivers

2013-08-12 Thread Peter Hessler
this isn't a lesser operating system. all such drivers are included out of the box. the only thing that may be missing, is the various firmware files. Check out how fw_update(8) works to fetch those. On 2013 Aug 11 (Sun) at 17:35:24 +0200 (+0200), josef.win...@email.de wrote: :How can I force

Dell Optiplex 9010 - radeomdrm

2013-08-12 Thread Luis Coronado
* Dell Optiplex 9010 with two radeon cards * xenocara still building. Without the radeons, inteldrm works great. OpenBSD 5.4-current (GENERIC.MP) #6: Mon Aug 12 08:28:16 CST 2013 r...@sbr0677.sbrmarketing.dev:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP real mem = 8521850880 (8127MB) avail mem

Upgrade to 5.0 from 4.x broke Apache+PHP's ability to talk to mysql.sock

2013-08-12 Thread Damon Getsman
Whoops; sent this earlier, but I hadn't changed the message subject from the Message Digest default text. I assume that's why it wasn't forwarded previously. Here's what I'd written on this subject previously: Awhile back here, I brought up an issue that occurred when I was upgrading my system

OpenBSD pxe automated install

2013-08-12 Thread Loïc BLOT
Hello @misc. Today i'm working on automated deploy with PXE. I have successful found and made automated PXE install on Debian with pxelinux. I know OpenBSD have a pxe boot image to netinstall the system http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/openbsd-boot-install-using-pxe-preboot-execution -environment/

Re: OpenBSD pxe automated install

2013-08-12 Thread Johan Beisser
read the FAQ, Loic. http://openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#site Site*.tgz, install.site and upgrade.site are a good starting point. On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Loïc BLOT loic.b...@unix-experience.fr wrote: Hello @misc. Today i'm working on automated deploy with PXE. I have successful found

Re: OpenBSD pxe automated install

2013-08-12 Thread Loïc BLOT
Hello, thanks for your reply Johan, but this is not why i want. site.tgz contain a set of preconfigured files to deploy with other sets to deploy similar machines. My need is to install a clean OpenBSD with an automated mean: The server boot in PXE and install OpenBSD, configure network,

Building bind with gssapi

2013-08-12 Thread Jeff Powell
I've been tearing my hair out trying to get this to work. I'm running OpenBSD 5.3 x64 and I'm trying to build isc-bind from ports using the -with-gssapi in the Makefile (I want to have the -g option in nsupdate so I can use iscp-dhcp to register dynamic DNS updates against a secure Windows

unnecessary quotes in .Nd lines

2013-08-12 Thread Jan Stary
Some manpages use one-line descriptions such as .Nd VAX console interface The double quotes, if I am not mistaken, are unnecessary; the diff below removes them throughout the tree. (Were these required at some point in the past?) Jan Index: games/bcd/bcd.6

Re: OpenBSD pxe automated install

2013-08-12 Thread Johan Beisser
Please read the FAQ entry I sent you, pay close attention to install.site and upgrade.site. Both of those are scripts that are executed by the installer. Fully automatic installs have been done, usually by modifying the installer script or root's .profile. Basically: automatic, unattended

Re: OpenBSD pxe automated install

2013-08-12 Thread Janne Johansson
Build your own bsd.rd which feeds precomputed values for disk size and so on. Not super hard to do. Den 12 aug 2013 21:44 skrev Loïc BLOT loic.b...@unix-experience.fr: Hello, thanks for your reply Johan, but this is not why i want. site.tgz contain a set of preconfigured files to deploy with

Re: Upgrade to 5.0 from 4.x broke Apache+PHP's ability to talk to mysql.sock

2013-08-12 Thread Liviu Daia
On 12 August 2013, Damon Getsman damo.g...@gmail.com wrote: [...] Last night, however, when I decided to take another stab at things, googling turned up a result that I hadn't seen previously (I am google-tarded, so I will accept the possibility that I'd not done as straightforward an attempt

Re: OpenBSD pxe automated install

2013-08-12 Thread Loïc BLOT
Sorry if i misunderstood the goal of install.site. I look at this, more clearly, to see if it's the solution i search. -- Best regards, Loïc BLOT, UNIX systems, security and network expert http://www.unix-experience.fr Le lundi 12 août 2013 à 13:07 -0700, Johan Beisser a écrit : Please read

remove .Tn abuse [was: yacc(1) mandoc nits]

2013-08-12 Thread Jan Stary
On Aug 12 07:11:16, j...@kerhand.co.uk wrote: On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 10:49:27PM +0200, Jan Stary wrote: Tha yacc(1) manpage uses .Tn LALR(1) .Tn LR(1) I don't think LALR or LR is a tradename. This seems to be what mdoc(7) describes as: Since this macro is

Re: OpenBSD pxe automated install

2013-08-12 Thread Francois Pussault
like kickstart for devil redhat ? From: Loïc BLOT loic.b...@unix-experience.fr Sent: Mon Aug 12 21:52:05 CEST 2013 To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD pxe automated install Hello, thanks for your reply Johan, but this is not why i want.

Re: OpenBSD pxe automated install

2013-08-12 Thread Loïc BLOT
It's exactly that. Kickstart for Redhat and Preseed.cfg for Debian -- Best regards, Loïc BLOT, UNIX systems, security and network expert http://www.unix-experience.fr Le lundi 12 août 2013 à 22:20 +0200, Francois Pussault a écrit : like kickstart for devil redhat ?

Re: OpenBSD pxe automated install

2013-08-12 Thread Kenneth R Westerback
On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 08:59:27PM +0200, Lo?c BLOT wrote: Hello @misc. Today i'm working on automated deploy with PXE. I have successful found and made automated PXE install on Debian with pxelinux. I know OpenBSD have a pxe boot image to netinstall the system

Re: OpenBSD pxe automated install

2013-08-12 Thread James A. Peltier
- Original Message - | read the FAQ, Loic. | | http://openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#site | | Site*.tgz, install.site and upgrade.site are a good starting point. | | On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Loïc BLOT | loic.b...@unix-experience.fr wrote: | Hello @misc. | | Today i'm working on

Re: OpenBSD pxe automated install

2013-08-12 Thread Loïc BLOT
Thanks for the precision James, you confirmed what i have understood. I will search tomorrow. -- Best regards, Loïc BLOT, UNIX systems, security and network expert http://www.unix-experience.fr Le lundi 12 août 2013 à 12:23 -0700, James A. Peltier a écrit : - Original Message - |

Bind with GSSAPI

2013-08-12 Thread Jeff Powell
I've been tearing my hair out trying to get this to work. I'm running OpenBSD 5.3 x64 and I'm trying to build isc-bind from ports using the -with-gssapi in the Makefile (I want to have the -g option in nsupdate so I can use iscp-dhcp to register dynamic DNS updates against a secure Windows

Re: OpenBSD pxe automated install

2013-08-12 Thread Tito Mari Francis Escaño
Please read http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq6.html#PXE and hope this helps. You'd have been told with deliberately unpleasant choice of words if next time you don't research well before asking in the list. On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 4:57 AM, Loïc BLOT loic.b...@unix-experience.frwrote: Thanks for

Re: Install drivers

2013-08-12 Thread Alexander Hall
On 08/12/13 18:49, Peter Hessler wrote: this isn't a lesser operating system. all such drivers are included out of the box. the only thing that may be missing, is the various firmware files. Check out how fw_update(8) works to fetch those. This diff lets you pinpoint specific drivers, or

Man page that explains the file format of man pages?

2013-08-12 Thread Evan Root
Hello Misc, I tried man 5 man for an explanation of the synopsis section of the man page and it says there isn't a manual for the file format conventions of manual pages. Sometimes I have difficulty with the syntax of the synopsis sections, is there a document I can refer to? I also looked up

Re: Man page that explains the file format of man pages?

2013-08-12 Thread Anthony J. Bentley
Evan Root writes: Hello Misc, I tried man 5 man for an explanation of the synopsis section of the man page and it says there isn't a manual for the file format conventions of manual pages. Sometimes I have difficulty with the syntax of the synopsis sections, is there a document I can refer

Re: Man page that explains the file format of man pages?

2013-08-12 Thread Evan Root
I don't think you understood. I am not looking to write a man page. I was just wondering if the system came with an explanation of the manual page synopsis section language syntax. Sometimes I get confused by the language and am not sure if I understand the synopsis sections of the man pages. Also

Re: Man page that explains the file format of man pages?

2013-08-12 Thread Andres Perera
On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 11:49 PM, Evan Root cellarr...@gmail.com wrote: I think that this post on stack exchange presents my question better.. the answers are all pretty short and non-committal though.