Re: Downgrade 6.6 to 6.5

2019-11-03 Thread Josh
I did not sent a bug report per say. Just this: http://openbsd-archive.7691.n7.nabble.com/Fan-spinning-constantly-on-Lenovo-X1C-and-6-6-td375687.html I upgraded to -current #427 and it seems to be better. I will spend more time with it before I draw any conclusions. thanks On Sun, Nov 3, 2019

Re: Tools for writers

2019-11-03 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 2 Nov 2019 15:16:22 -0400 STeve Andre' wrote: > On 2019-11-02 15:07, Antoine Jacoutot wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 02, 2019 at 03:04:34PM -0400, STeve Andre' wrote: > >> > >> > >> On 2019-11-02 11:00, Oliver Leaver-Smith wrote: > >>> Hello, > >>> > >>> What tools do people find useful for

Re: Tools for writers

2019-11-03 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 3 Nov 2019 18:50:56 + (UTC) Roderick wrote: > Here is an old system, written in FORTRAN and C, perhaps compiles in > OpenBSD: > > http://www.tustep.uni-tuebingen.de/tustep_eng.html > > But I never used it and I am hyppy with TeX. > > Rodrigo > I'm not sure, but I think if you

Re: Tools for writers

2019-11-03 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 2 Nov 2019 20:07:39 +0100 Antoine Jacoutot wrote: > On Sat, Nov 02, 2019 at 03:04:34PM -0400, STeve Andre' wrote: > > > > > > On 2019-11-02 11:00, Oliver Leaver-Smith wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > What tools do people find useful for writing on OpenBSD? By > > > writing I mean

dmesg OBSD 6.6 - only a few bugs

2019-11-03 Thread sylvain . saboua
I had to perform an upgrade from the 6.6 CD after the 6.5 version stopped booting. Everything is now back to work. Here is the fresh dmesg. The only imperfection is : "Tearfree" X.org configuration is required whereas it wasn't on my previous OBSD install. YouTube videos are also very twitchy

Re: Skype alternatives for OpenBSD

2019-11-03 Thread Jordan Geoghegan
On 2019-11-03 05:15, Stefan Sperling wrote: On Sat, Nov 02, 2019 at 02:47:16PM -0700, Jordan Geoghegan wrote: Assuming Firefox or chromium on OpenBSD has WebRTC support (havent checked in a while), talky.io should work. It's a free website that supports WebRTC chats. I've used it in the past

Re: Changes to VLAN and promiscuous mode in 6.6

2019-11-03 Thread David Gwynne
Hey, This should be fixed in current as of r1.199 of src/sys/net/if_vlan.c Sorry for the inconvenience. Cheers, dlg > On 29 Oct 2019, at 19:49, Zé Loff wrote: > > > Hi all > > Some changes in VLAN-related code went into 6.6 and I think some of them > changed the way the parent interface

Re: Tools for writers

2019-11-03 Thread Jordan Geoghegan
On 2019-11-02 18:29, Ingo Schwarze wrote: Hi Jordan, Jordan Geoghegan wrote on Sat, Nov 02, 2019 at 05:44:23PM -0700: I've thought about learning latex and mandoc and all the fancy tools, but I've just never gotten around to it. Actually, both mandoc(1) and mdoc(7) are off-topic in this

KVM Q35 Virtual Machines , SR-IOV PCI-E Bridges and OpenBSD jitter on attached network

2019-11-03 Thread Tom Smyth
Hello, Has anyone seen jitter from 0.5ms to 500ms on PCI-E attached (SR-IOV) Physical function / virtual function Network interfaces on OpenBSD Machines running on a KVM Virtual machine type (Q35) ? any tips for diagnosing what is causing the jitter ? I have ruled out the driver Ixl by

Re: OpenBSD 6.6 amd64 iavf(4) iavf / SR-iov 40G NIC lots of Jitter

2019-11-03 Thread Tom Smyth
Hello, from bare metal testing the ixl driver didn't have any jitter, but when IXL card it was passed through with SR-IOV on a KVM virtual machine there was jitter, so i'm thinking the issue is in the virtual machines handling of the PCI-PCI bridge I'm assuming based on the above test the iavf

Re: Courier-Imap no longer accepts ssl connections after update to -current

2019-11-03 Thread Theodore Wynnychenko
Yes, it is (was) a permission issue. > -Original Message- > From: owner-m...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-m...@openbsd.org] On Behalf > Of Giovanni Bechis > Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2019 5:22 AM > To: misc@openbsd.org > Subject: Re: Courier-Imap no longer accepts ssl connections

Re: OpenBSD and solid state disks

2019-11-03 Thread Stuart Longland
On 4/11/19 8:13 am, Raymond, David wrote: > Thanks for the insight on SSDs -- sounds like there is not much of an > issue with modern drives. Well, you're at the mercy of the SSD firmware to "do the right thing" and move the data around to ensure even wear levelling. Most do. The fact that you

Re: Skype alternatives for OpenBSD

2019-11-03 Thread Stuart Longland
On 3/11/19 11:27 pm, Jonathan Drews wrote: > The woman offering the class uses Skype so I am probably going to have to use > Windows. I have a laptop with Windows 10 but I hardly ever use it. Windows is > a big step down in performance when compared to OpenBSD. > I thought Skype used a protocol

Re: Tools for writers

2019-11-03 Thread multifred
Maybe have a look at Asciidoctor[1]. It's a plain text markup language and fast parser/converter with ruby as its sole dependency. The language is easy to write, very easy to read and doesn't get in your way. It's similar to Markdown but much more potent, well-rounded and extensible if

Re: Broadcom firmwares and nvram files

2019-11-03 Thread Stefano Enrico Mendola
Hi Patrick, Thanks a lot for your answer. You told me exactly what I was looking for. I've generated a 32bit EFI grub image and placed it inside an archiso bootable image, booted from Arch Linux, grabbed the EFI var, came back to my OpenBSD installation, compiled the program you attached and

Re: Downgrade 6.6 to 6.5

2019-11-03 Thread Raymond, David
I had the fan problem on an X1 5G running linux, but a bios upgrade solved it. Dave Raymond On 11/3/19, Josh wrote: > hi, > > I've upgraded from 6.5 to 6.6 on my X1 6G and since then, I am unable > to find the reason(s) of the high fan spinning. > Is there a procedure to downgrade to 6.5 or

Re: OpenBSD and solid state disks

2019-11-03 Thread Raymond, David
Thanks for the insight on SSDs -- sounds like there is not much of an issue with modern drives. Dave Raymond On 11/3/19, gwes wrote: > On 11/2/19 4:10 PM, Raymond, David wrote: >> I recently installed OpenBSD on a Lenovo X1 Carbon with a solid state >> drive and it works great. >> >> My

Re: Tools for writers

2019-11-03 Thread 陈贤文
Dear Mr. Péter, Thank you! > I installed it via cabal, but you need a little workaround, since a W^X > allowed partition is required for the build There are some articles > online which I followed and created a cabal directory in /usr/local > (which is wxallowed) and mounted it in my $HOME as

Re: Disable ftp in pkg_add syspatch sysupgrade

2019-11-03 Thread Andy Lemin
For completeness, I discovered I was having issues with downloading the sources for the sysupgrade command on my edge firewall also! So it was not limited to internet servers as first thought. Since upgrading the 6.6 (had to run sysupgrade 4 times to get it to complete the downloads), the

Re: Disable ftp in pkg_add syspatch sysupgrade

2019-11-03 Thread Andy Lemin
Hahaha Thanks Theo, that made me smile. But you have answered my question perfectly, albeit in a round about way. Indeed it doesn’t matter what it is called, and would be clearer with a generic name, as we got caught out by a program calling another program with colliding name. For example,

Re: Downgrade 6.6 to 6.5

2019-11-03 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Sun, Nov 03, 2019 at 03:41:33PM +0100, Josh wrote: > hi, > > I've upgraded from 6.5 to 6.6 on my X1 6G and since then, I am unable > to find the reason(s) of the high fan spinning. > Is there a procedure to downgrade to 6.5 or should I just reinstall > from scratch? > > thank you > Did you

Re: Skype alternatives for OpenBSD

2019-11-03 Thread Roderick
On Sun, 3 Nov 2019, Jonathan Drews wrote: I thought Skype used a protocol that allowed other clients to connect to it then I read the Wikipedia page on Skype. The technology is owned by Microsoft. A standard is SIP. Then a solution would be something like:

Re: Tools for writers

2019-11-03 Thread Bertalan Zoltán Péter
Xianwen Chen (陈贤文) [2019-11-03 13:44:20 +0100]: > Does _pandoc_ work on OpenBSD now? I can confirm that pandoc works on OpenBSD as I have built it a few months ago. However, it wasn't a painless procedure. I installed it via cabal, but you need a little workaround, since a W^X allowed partition

Re: Tools for writers

2019-11-03 Thread Roderick
Here is an old system, written in FORTRAN and C, perhaps compiles in OpenBSD: http://www.tustep.uni-tuebingen.de/tustep_eng.html But I never used it and I am hyppy with TeX. Rodrigo

Re: Tools for writers

2019-11-03 Thread Roderick
On Sun, 3 Nov 2019, Ingo Schwarze wrote: And finally, the only thing that is seriously wrong with the "print/texlive" port is how ridiculously large it is. That is "texlive". Donald Knuths TeX/mf is exactly the opposite to bloat.

Re: Tools for writers

2019-11-03 Thread 陈贤文
Right. Thank you very much! Ingo Schwarze writes: > Hello, > > Xianwen Chen wrote on Sun, Nov 03, 2019 at 04:16:43PM +0100: > >> I am interested in giving _groff_ and _gpresent_ a try. I am seasoned >> LaTeX user. Is there a tutorial that you would recommend to someone like >> me? > > No, i'm

Re: OpenBSD and solid state disks

2019-11-03 Thread gwes
On 11/2/19 4:10 PM, Raymond, David wrote: I recently installed OpenBSD on a Lenovo X1 Carbon with a solid state drive and it works great. My question is whether OpenBSD addresses the special characteristics of solid state drives, especially those having to do with longevity and reliability. I

Re: Tools for writers

2019-11-03 Thread Marc Chantreux
> My substitute for _pandoc_ is the _org-mode_ of emacs, which is for some > people also good for outlining etc. if i quit using vim some day, it will be for something lightweight so i'll never run emacs, i guess. regards marc

Re: OpenBSD and solid state disks

2019-11-03 Thread Nick Holland
On 2019-11-02 16:10, Raymond, David wrote: > I recently installed OpenBSD on a Lenovo X1 Carbon with a solid state > drive and it works great. yep. > My question is whether OpenBSD addresses the special characteristics > of solid state drives, especially those having to do with longevity > and

Re: Tools for writers

2019-11-03 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hello, Xianwen Chen wrote on Sun, Nov 03, 2019 at 04:16:43PM +0100: > I am interested in giving _groff_ and _gpresent_ a try. I am seasoned > LaTeX user. Is there a tutorial that you would recommend to someone like > me? No, i'm not aware of tutorials (but i generally don't use tutorials, so

Re: Downgrade 6.6 to 6.5

2019-11-03 Thread prx
Hi, no and yes, I fear. Le November 3, 2019 2:41:33 PM UTC, Josh a écrit : >hi, > >I've upgraded from 6.5 to 6.6 on my X1 6G and since then, I am unable >to find the reason(s) of the high fan spinning. >Is there a procedure to downgrade to 6.5 or should I just reinstall >from scratch? > >thank

Re: Tools for writers

2019-11-03 Thread 陈贤文
Dear Mr. Schwarze, > That said, the obvious answer for the OP is of course the > "textproc/groff" port (disclosure: which i maintain). The roff(7) > language and the troff programm is what people in the UNIX world > always used for writing books and journal articles, and it is very > much alive

Re: Tools for writers

2019-11-03 Thread Karl Pettersson
On Sun, Nov 03, 2019 at 01:44:20PM +0100, Xianwen Chen (陈贤文) wrote: > Dear Marc, > > > I wasn't talking about mandoc but pandoc (https://pandoc.org/): you > > write most of the things just using markdown format and add latex > > instructions whenever you want. this way, you keep simple things

Re: Following current - pkg_add update forward depedencies don't match question

2019-11-03 Thread Chris Bennett
I also found twice that removed (from ports permanently) packages I had installed would throw things into a loop that once caused me to run out of memory or things just kept looping. ^C followed by pkg_delete -i "the offending package" then resuming pkg_add -u made things much easier. Overall

Re: ixl(4) Driver SR-IOV Physical Function Interface has jitter on OpenBSD 6.5 and 6.6

2019-11-03 Thread Tom Smyth
Hello, I managed to get another server and card with identical hardware and tested ixl4 on bare metal, there was no jitter or latency issues with ping times never rising above 0.5 ms so it looks like issue I orignally reported was something possibly with the PCI-E subsystem ( PCI-E bridge) and

Downgrade 6.6 to 6.5

2019-11-03 Thread Josh
hi, I've upgraded from 6.5 to 6.6 on my X1 6G and since then, I am unable to find the reason(s) of the high fan spinning. Is there a procedure to downgrade to 6.5 or should I just reinstall from scratch? thank you

Re: Following current - pkg_add update forward depedencies don't match question

2019-11-03 Thread Theodore Wynnychenko
> -Original Message- > From: owner-m...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-m...@openbsd.org] On Behalf > Of Stuart Henderson > Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2019 7:59 AM > To: misc@openbsd.org > Subject: Re: Following current - pkg_add update forward depedencies > don't match question > > On

Re: Tools for writers

2019-11-03 Thread 陈贤文
Dear Mr. Chantreux, > i realized i haven't try on BSD as my desktop remains a linux for the > moment. sorry i lost the focus because of this very appealing thread. My substitute for _pandoc_ is the _org-mode_ of emacs, which is for some people also good for outlining etc. But I miss _pandoc_.

Re: Skype alternatives for OpenBSD

2019-11-03 Thread Florian Viehweger
>I thought Skype used a protocol that allowed other clients to connect >to it then I read the Wikipedia page on Skype. The technology is owned >by Microsoft. Many moons ago you could at least chat with other clients, but you also had to run Skype itself. It was more or less remote controlling

Re: Skype alternatives for OpenBSD

2019-11-03 Thread 陈贤文
Dear Mr. Drews, > The woman offering the class uses Skype so I am probably going to have to use > Windows. I have a laptop with > Skype usually runs well on Linux. It may run on FreeBSD too, although I have never looked into that. One trick that I use is to run Skype on my Android phone.

Re: Following current - pkg_add update forward depedencies don't match question

2019-11-03 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2019-11-02, Theodore Wynnychenko wrote: > I decided to just try updating gettext, so (this is the full output on that > system): Well, that's the problem. Partial updates work sometimes but they can't be relied upon, in particular won't work around some types of restructuring changes as

Re: Skype alternatives for OpenBSD

2019-11-03 Thread Jonathan Drews
> Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2019 at 7:51 AM > From: "Stuart Longland" > To: misc@openbsd.org > Subject: Re: Skype alternatives for OpenBSD > > On 3/11/19 7:35 am, Jonathan Drews wrote: > > Is there an alternative to Skype that runs on OpenBSD? I looked in > > http://openports.se/ > > and didn't

Re: Skype alternatives for OpenBSD

2019-11-03 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Sat, Nov 02, 2019 at 02:47:16PM -0700, Jordan Geoghegan wrote: > Assuming Firefox or chromium on OpenBSD has WebRTC support (havent checked > in a while), talky.io should work. It's a free website that supports WebRTC > chats. I've used it in the past with great success. The www/nextcloud port

Re: Broadcom firmwares and nvram files

2019-11-03 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Sun, Nov 03, 2019 at 10:06:18AM +0100, Patrick Wildt wrote: > Obiously I missed the attachment. Could this tool be put into base or ports / pkg_add? > /* > * Copyright (c) 2013 Broadcom Corporation > * > * Permission to use, copy, modify, and/or distribute this software for any > *

Re: Tools for writers

2019-11-03 Thread Marc Chantreux
hello, > Does _pandoc_ work on OpenBSD now? i realized i haven't try on BSD as my desktop remains a linux for the moment. sorry i lost the focus because of this very appealing thread. regards marc

Re: Tools for writers

2019-11-03 Thread U'll Be King of the Stars
On 03/11/2019 12:44, Xianwen Chen (陈贤文) wrote: Does _pandoc_ work on OpenBSD now? Pandoc doesn't work on OpenBSD? This is seriously a bit of a shock. It is one of the most useful tools I have ever used. If you are writing any sort of documentation then I *highly* recommend checking it out

Re: Tools for writers

2019-11-03 Thread 陈贤文
Dear Marc, > I wasn't talking about mandoc but pandoc (https://pandoc.org/): you > write most of the things just using markdown format and add latex > instructions whenever you want. this way, you keep simple things simple > but you keep the power of latex under the wood. Does _pandoc_ work on

Re: Courier-Imap no longer accepts ssl connections after update to -current

2019-11-03 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2019-11-02, Theodore Wynnychenko wrote: > Nov 2 07:40:38 host imapd-ssl: ip=[:::127.0.0.1], couriertls: > /etc/ssl/private/imapd.pem: error:02FFF00D:system > library:func(4095):Permission denied This suggests that the uid running Courier-Imap does not have permission to access

Re: Skype alternatives for OpenBSD

2019-11-03 Thread Andrew Luke Nesbit
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 03/11/2019 10:55, Frank Beuth wrote: > Not sure about the original poster but I would be interested in > any end-to-end encrypted video/audio/chat programs that are > available. Have a look at Tox. It might work out for you on a technical

Re: OpenBSD and solid state disks

2019-11-03 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2019-11-02, Raymond, David wrote: > I recently installed OpenBSD on a Lenovo X1 Carbon with a solid state > drive and it works great. > > My question is whether OpenBSD addresses the special characteristics > of solid state drives, especially those having to do with longevity > and

Re: Skype alternatives for OpenBSD

2019-11-03 Thread Bertalan Zoltán Péter
Frank Beuth [2019-11-03 11:55:21 +0100]: > Not sure about the original poster but I would be interested in any > end-to-end encrypted video/audio/chat programs that are available. Matrix may be interesting https://matrix.org/ It has ETE chat, but I am not sure about audio/video. It is possible

*roff and page layout ? (Re: Tools for writers)

2019-11-03 Thread Marc Chantreux
> the "print/texlive" port is how ridiculously large it is. because it comes with the whole distribution. i never tested but https://tectonic-typesetting.github.io/ seems to fix it by downloading stuff on demand. however, another problem with tex is performance. troff is blazing fast. however...

Re: Courier-Imap no longer accepts ssl connections after update to -current

2019-11-03 Thread Giovanni Bechis
Theodore Wynnychenko wrote: > Hi (again): > > After updating to current yesterday, and then updating all the packages > (using "pkg_add -vui -Dsnap"), I can no longer connect to the ssl (993) port > of the courier-imap server running on the system. > > Prior to the update, ssl connections were

Re: Tools for writers

2019-11-03 Thread Yon
Hi, On Sun, Nov 03, 2019 at 02:29:02AM +0100, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > As long as you only *use* macro packages, groff is *much* > easier to use than LaTeX (not least because the quality of > documentation of groff is vastly superior to LaTeX, and LaTeX > documentation is so extremely huge and

Re: Skype alternatives for OpenBSD

2019-11-03 Thread Frank Beuth
On Sun, Nov 03, 2019 at 04:51:48PM +1000, Stuart Longland wrote: Do you need any video conferencing software (i.e. the group running the online class is willing to switch to whatever you can get working?), or do you specifically need Skype? Not sure about the original poster but I would be

Re: Tools for writers

2019-11-03 Thread Marc Chantreux
> documents, but for my use case, LibreOffice has treated me well. I primarily > use it for simple things like putting together invoices, writing articles, > rendering documents to PDF or postscript, and reading .docx files people > send me. > I'm sure there's a superior way to do all this,

Re: Tools for writers

2019-11-03 Thread john slee
I really like Markdown for actual writing, because its markup for logical structure is quite low-key and non-distracting, and (unlike *roff or LaTeX) it also reads pretty well in source form. Tables are fairly annoying, particularly if I later have to insert a column in mid table. Use whatever

Re: Broadcom firmwares and nvram files

2019-11-03 Thread Patrick Wildt
On Sun, Nov 03, 2019 at 10:05:38AM +0100, Patrick Wildt wrote: > On Sun, Nov 03, 2019 at 12:08:08AM +0100, Stefano Enrico Mendola wrote: > > Hi, > > > > my bad, I thought the grepped output was enough. > > Here's the complete dmesg(8) output. = > > OpenBSD 6.6

Re: Broadcom firmwares and nvram files

2019-11-03 Thread Patrick Wildt
On Sun, Nov 03, 2019 at 12:08:08AM +0100, Stefano Enrico Mendola wrote: > Hi, > > my bad, I thought the grepped output was enough. > Here's the complete dmesg(8) output. = > OpenBSD 6.6 (GENERIC.MP) #372: Sat Oct 12 10:56:27 MDT 2019 >

Re: Skype alternatives for OpenBSD

2019-11-03 Thread Stuart Longland
On 3/11/19 7:35 am, Jonathan Drews wrote: > Is there an alternative to Skype that runs on OpenBSD? I looked in > http://openports.se/ > and didn't see anything. I want to take online classes nad need a video > conferencingsoftware Do you need any video conferencing software (i.e. the group