Re: OT: Re: Seems OpenBSD isn't absolutely alone in it's quest, atleast on embedded systems.

2011-06-09 Thread ramrunner
: OT: Re: Seems OpenBSD isn't absolutely alone in it's quest, atleast on embedded systems. To: misc@openbsd.org misc@openbsd.org Date: Wednesday, June 8, 2011, 10:23 AM [Other shit removed to concentrate on the ignorance of the last line.] Any hacker not knowing a couple of Lisp macros

Re: OT: Re: Seems OpenBSD isn't absolutely alone in it's quest, atleast on embedded systems.

2011-06-09 Thread Thomas de Grivel
I believe SICP has much culture but not always so great style. I'm not learning lisp. Who are you to know of all lisp learners ? Why are you associating lisp with functional programming ? CL in itself is not really functional, but being a metalanguage you can make it so. You could also make it

Re: OT: Re: Seems OpenBSD isn't absolutely alone in it's quest, atleast on embedded systems.

2011-06-09 Thread Rod Whitworth
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 03:58:40 +0200, Thomas de Grivel wrote: I believe SICP has much culture but not always so great style. I'm not learning lisp. Who are you to know of all lisp learners ? Why are you associating lisp with functional programming ? CL in itself is not really functional, but

Re: OT: Re: Seems OpenBSD isn't absolutely alone in it's quest, atleast on embedded systems.

2011-06-08 Thread Super Biscuit
+1 --- On Wed, 6/8/11, Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: From: Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org Subject: Re: OT: Re: Seems OpenBSD isn't absolutely alone in it's quest, atleast on embedded systems. To: Nicholas Marriott nicholas.marri...@gmail.com Cc: Thomas de Grivel billi

Re: OT: Re: Seems OpenBSD isn't absolutely alone in it's quest, atleast on embedded systems.

2011-06-08 Thread Thomas de Grivel
I'm not really selling anything. I'm seeing a deeply rooted bug in our way of thinking programming languages. Struggling is not necessary unless you want to punish yourself. My experience, and I feel I have enough in C to speak untroubled, is that not all languages are like C when it comes to

Re: OT: Re: Seems OpenBSD isn't absolutely alone in it's quest, atleast on embedded systems.

2011-06-08 Thread Marc Espie
Like I said before, there is amply enough work in the ports tree for lisp hackers. Go work on porting clisp to other OpenBSD architectures. Give us something concrete. Talk is very, very cheap.

Re: OT: Re: Seems OpenBSD isn't absolutely alone in it's quest, atleast on embedded systems.

2011-06-08 Thread Super Biscuit
: From: Thomas de Grivel billi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: OT: Re: Seems OpenBSD isn't absolutely alone in it's quest, atleast on embedded systems. To: misc@openbsd.org misc@openbsd.org Date: Wednesday, June 8, 2011, 10:23 AM [Other shit removed to concentrate on the ignorance of the last line.] Any

OT: Re: Seems OpenBSD isn't absolutely alone in it's quest, atleast on embedded systems.

2011-06-07 Thread Thomas de Grivel
Before even thinking of fixing it i'm trying to see if i'm alone in my quest. I like code correctness and feel what's done in OpenBSD is epic given the shitty language all the devs are dealing with. I love this much epic. Now if you want to know what code I'm writing, first I'm writing english

Re: OT: Re: Seems OpenBSD isn't absolutely alone in it's quest, atleast on embedded systems.

2011-06-07 Thread Ariane van der Steldt
On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 12:08:26PM +0200, Thomas de Grivel wrote: Before even thinking of fixing it i'm trying to see if i'm alone in my quest. I like code correctness and feel what's done in OpenBSD is epic given the shitty language all the devs are dealing with. I love this much epic. I

Re: OT: Re: Seems OpenBSD isn't absolutely alone in it's quest, atleast on embedded systems.

2011-06-07 Thread Christiano F. Haesbaert
On 7 June 2011 07:08, Thomas de Grivel billi...@gmail.com wrote: Before even thinking of fixing it i'm trying to see if i'm alone in my quest. I like code correctness and feel what's done in OpenBSD is epic given the shitty language all the devs are dealing with. I love this much epic.

Re: OT: Re: Seems OpenBSD isn't absolutely alone in it's quest, atleast on embedded systems.

2011-06-07 Thread Gilles Chehade
On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 11:19:11AM -0300, Christiano F. Haesbaert wrote: [...] Now, think again, parsing a language is nice, but it's almost never the most important thing. You also should not try to convert old school unix hackers into lispers, there may be rape. s/may be/will be/ --

Re: OT: Re: Seems OpenBSD isn't absolutely alone in it's quest, atleast on embedded systems.

2011-06-07 Thread Nicholas Marriott
You are either trolling or just very mixed up, the important thing is not how quickly machines can parse it or how quickly you can write a lexer but how quickly humans can parse it and what they can do with it. C is not the best here but it is way ahead of any kind of useless functional language.

Re: OT: Re: Seems OpenBSD isn't absolutely alone in it's quest, atleast on embedded systems.

2011-06-07 Thread Marco Peereboom
On Jun 7, 2011, at 19:46, Nicholas Marriott nicholas.marri...@gmail.com wrote: You are either trolling or just very mixed up, the important thing is not how quickly machines can parse it or how quickly you can write a lexer but how quickly humans can parse it and what they can do with it. C

Re: OT: Re: Seems OpenBSD isn't absolutely alone in it's quest, atleast on embedded systems.

2011-06-07 Thread Theo de Raadt
You are either trolling or just very mixed up, the important thing is not how quickly machines can parse it or how quickly you can write a lexer but how quickly humans can parse it and what they can do with it. C is not the best here but it is way ahead of any kind of useless functional