On Jan 10, 2008 2:41 AM, bofh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just curious if you know how Kevin Mitnick was tracked down and captured?
i don't. by tracking his switched off cellular phone?
Cell phone systems keep track of the location of the phone, and they
can record the information permanently. They can do this even when
the phone is switched off, because it still transmits.
That information comes from the Palestine Information Technology
Association. In Palestine, being
On 10/01/2008, bofh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 9, 2008 8:45 PM, Ted Unangst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/9/08, bofh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just curious if you know how Kevin Mitnick was tracked down and
captured?
did the police go to the billing address of the cell phone he
On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 01:21:04PM +0100, chefren wrote:
Look around, somewhat further than your relatives and friends...
If it's not programmed well, it's stupid.
Stupidity implies sentience... HAL, you there?
-Toby.
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On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 19:41:44 -0500, bofh [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
On Jan 8, 2008 2:27 PM, Eric Furman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 23:18:15 -0500, Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
Yes, that is my view of things. Using the phone could be convenient
for me. (I
On 1/10/08 1:09 AM, Tobias Weingartner wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], chefren wrote:
On 1/8/08 11:28 PM, Marco Peereboom wrote:
2. Same NIC without flash/ROM bad
Eh, that's just a meaningless pile of transistors.
Surely you jest? An FPGA is a meaningless pile of transistors?
On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 10:33:41AM +0100, chefren wrote:
On 1/10/08 1:09 AM, Tobias Weingartner wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], chefren wrote:
On 1/8/08 11:28 PM, Marco Peereboom wrote:
2. Same NIC without flash/ROM bad
Eh, that's just a meaningless pile of transistors.
Surely you
On 1/10/08 11:10 AM, Otto Moerbeek wrote:
On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 10:33:41AM +0100, chefren wrote:
On 1/10/08 1:09 AM, Tobias Weingartner wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], chefren wrote:
On 1/8/08 11:28 PM, Marco Peereboom wrote:
2. Same NIC without flash/ROM bad
Eh, that's just a
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], chefren wrote:
On 1/8/08 11:28 PM, Marco Peereboom wrote:
2. Same NIC without flash/ROM bad
Eh, that's just a meaningless pile of transistors.
Surely you jest? An FPGA is a meaningless pile of transistors?
Weird...
-Toby.
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On Jan 8, 2008 2:27 PM, Eric Furman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 23:18:15 -0500, Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
Yes, that is my view of things. Using the phone could be convenient
for me. (I think it would be convenient for me.) But it also
perpetuates serious
On 1/9/08, bofh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just curious if you know how Kevin Mitnick was tracked down and captured?
did the police go to the billing address of the cell phone he was
using and paying for?
On Jan 9, 2008 8:45 PM, Ted Unangst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/9/08, bofh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just curious if you know how Kevin Mitnick was tracked down and
captured?
did the police go to the billing address of the cell phone he was
using and paying for?
Heh. A simple search
On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 23:18:15 -0500, Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
I don't carry a mobile phone, but I don't see anything wrong in
borrowing one from someone to make a call.
So if it is a new model of cell phone and if the owner teaches you
how
to use it and
On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 05:46:37 -0500, Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
You shouldn't use them, because of the software, but also, because
your cell phone is a tracking device, even when it is turned off,
Stallman said. Interestingly, in the minutes before the talk began,
On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 02:06:31PM -0500, Richard Stallman wrote:
So you are basically saying that being a bum is ethical.
I see nothing wrong with it, but recall that bum means a person who
does no useful work. I work most of my waking hours, and the people
who support me in various
On 1/8/08 11:28 PM, Marco Peereboom wrote:
2. Same NIC without flash/ROM bad
Eh, that's just a meaningless pile of transistors.
+++chefren
Richard Stallman wrote:
I see nothing wrong in using someone else's
Windows machine for a few minutes.
Great!, Now go down to your local public library.. assuming they offer free
Internet access..
Do you're own fucking research!
Helpful resources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/
Richard Stallman wrote:
But it also perpetuates serious problems (totalitarian surveillance,...)
Are you seriously that paranoid? Do you wear a tin foil hat by any chance? :-)
Richard Stallman wrote:
The cases are similar, and my view on the two cases is similar.
So answer this question,
On Jan 7, 2008 9:48 AM, Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't carry a mobile phone, but I don't see anything wrong in
borrowing one from someone to make a call.
So if it is a new model of cell phone and if the owner teaches you how
to use it and make life easy
Has anybody thought of this... the ports system is a facility that one
can 'borrow' and use on a OpenBSD system that _is_ used for their own
'convenience'!!! You can just improve it and give back your changes,
and most of the stuff you'll ever do with it has much to deal with
free software anyway
But it also perpetuates serious problems (totalitarian surveillance,...)
Are you seriously that paranoid? Do you wear a tin foil hat by any
chance? :-)
Cell phone systems keep track of the location of the phone, and they
can record the information permanently. They can do this even
So you are basically saying that being a bum is ethical. In other
words, using others resources that might even be blood money.
It is ok to use someone else's cell phone but it is not ok to have your
own.
It is ok to use someone else's windows machine but it is not ok to have your
own.
It is
You shouldn't use them, because of the software, but also, because
your cell phone is a tracking device, even when it is turned off,
Stallman said. Interestingly, in the minutes before the talk began,
Stallman padded up one aisle in his stocking feet talking into what
looked
On Jan 6, 2008 11:46 AM, Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You shouldn't use them, because of the software, but also, because
your cell phone is a tracking device, even when it is turned off,
Stallman said. Interestingly, in the minutes before the talk began,
Stallman
On Jan 6, 2008 4:16 PM, Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You shouldn't use them, because of the software, but also, because
your cell phone is a tracking device, even when it is turned off,
Stallman said. Interestingly, in the minutes before the talk began,
Stallman
I don't carry a mobile phone, but I don't see anything wrong in
borrowing one from someone to make a call.
So if it is a new model of cell phone and if the owner teaches you how
to use it and make life easy for you will that be
1) Wrong on his part to encourage you to using
When someone asked him how to make a living of IT without using or
promoting non-free software, his answer was that you don't have to
work in the IT field to contribute to free software, and he'd prefer see
a kernel contributor being a taxi driver than administrating Windows
workstations (It
On Jan 4, 2008 11:41 PM, Paul de Weerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
I've been working in IT for well over 10 years now. I can promise you
that, had I denounced non-free software, I would not have been able to
pay for my food or my rent/mortgage for the past 10 years.
In response to off-band inquiries...
On Jan 5, 2008 4:41 PM, Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 4, 2008 11:41 PM, Paul de Weerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
I've been working in IT for well over 10 years now. I can promise you
that, had I denounced non-free software, I
For some reason, earlier mail on the strawllman-thread did not make it
to the list. I'm copying parts of some of these mails inline. Note
that both mails were CC:'ed to misc@ (so they were intended to end up
on the list. As such, i don't think using them inline here is a
problem)
On Thu, Jan 03,
On Jan 4, 2008 11:41 PM, Paul de Weerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For some reason, earlier mail on the strawllman-thread did not make it
to the list. I'm copying parts of some of these mails inline. Note
that both mails were CC:'ed to misc@ (so they were intended to end up
on the list. As such,
On Jan 4, 2008 5:47 PM, dermiste [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 4, 2008 11:41 PM, Paul de Weerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For some reason, earlier mail on the strawllman-thread did not make it
to the list. I'm copying parts of some of these mails inline. Note
that both mails were CC:'ed to
Todd Alan Smith wrote:
When someone asked him how to make a living of IT without using or
promoting non-free software, his answer was that you don't have to
work in the IT field to contribute to free software, and he'd prefer see
a kernel contributor being a taxi driver than administrating
And as a gardener, I'm not sure software will
be my first source of problems.
L, the above quoted text is not mine. You need to be more careful in
the configuration of your replies. I, for one, would appreciate it.
Todd
Sincere apologies..
It was a double and your name should
On Jan 4, 2008 10:14 PM, L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Todd Alan Smith wrote:
When someone asked him how to make a living of IT without using or
promoting non-free software, his answer was that you don't have to
work in the IT field to contribute to free software, and he'd prefer see
a
A professional peer of mine wrote the following article:
http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/23417
which contains the following paragraph:
Google's hired great open source developers from projects like
Linux, Firefox, Samba and Apache.
They all still have ties back into those
Good for google!
They hire themselves into fame and therefore look good in the process.
If the individual thinks that the money is worth it for him/her we have
a transaction. Nowhere do I see any ethical questions. Google is in it
for the money and someone needs to pay a mortgage. End of
Ask yourself this question. Do you really believe that someone who
sells a product which was developed within the lawful frame work is
unethical?
You confusing the issue! The software market - where you sell your product
(i.e., software) is unethical,
distorted and manipulated, and not by
On Fri, Jan 04, 2008 at 12:48:57PM +1100, Ioan Nemes wrote:
Ask yourself this question. Do you really believe that someone who
sells a product which was developed within the lawful frame work is
unethical?
You confusing the issue! The software market - where you sell your product
On 3-Jan-08, at 8:48 PM, Ioan Nemes wrote:
Ask yourself this question. Do you really believe that someone who
sells a product which was developed within the lawful frame work is
unethical?
You confusing the issue! The software market - where you sell your
product
(i.e., software) is
On Jan 4, 2008 9:48 AM, Ioan Nemes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You confusing the issue! The software market - where you sell your product
(i.e., software) is unethical,
distorted and manipulated, and not by the ethical software crafters!
Why is the software market unethical? Because there are
Don't worry. You can ask rms if your behaviour is ethical. He'll set
you straight, and tell you to stop working for those companies and
instead suckle off your McArthur Idiot grant.
On Jan 4, 2008 9:48 AM, Ioan Nemes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You confusing the issue! The software market -
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