Re: sshd_config(5) PermitRootLogin yes

2008-07-11 Thread Tomas Bodzar
@openbsd.org Subject: Re: sshd_config(5) PermitRootLogin yes Paul de Weerd escreveu: On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 01:21:20PM -0400, Brynet wrote: The keyword here is *default*. Say you installed OpenBSD on a soekris, it's nice having root enabled temporarily. That way you can login at a later time

Re: sshd_config(5) PermitRootLogin yes

2008-07-11 Thread Rod Whitworth
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 07:16:38 +0100, Tomas Bodzar wrote: You can setup weak root password during install ;-) There is no test,so I can use root,password,admin and so on. Who gives a fluck? OpenBSD gives you all the tools, even if they are too sharp for dull blunts. If you don't like the

Re: sshd_config(5) PermitRootLogin yes

2008-07-11 Thread Jacob Yocom-Piatt
Brian A. Seklecki wrote: On Thu, 10 Jul 2008, Jacob Yocom-Piatt wrote: maybe if people actually READ THE ARCHIVES, they'd be better informed. i wish this mailing list had I didn't want to rehash it all again. Everyone knows the issues. so put your own /etc/ssh/sshd_config into your

Re: sshd_config(5) PermitRootLogin yes

2008-07-10 Thread (private) HKS
My 4.3 installs defaulted to PermitRootLogin yes after install. -HKS On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Brian A. Seklecki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am I reading this right? http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/usr.bin/ssh/sshd_config?rev=1.80content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup I dont have a

Re: sshd_config(5) PermitRootLogin yes

2008-07-10 Thread Will Maier
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:35:06AM -0400, Brian A. Seklecki wrote: Am I reading this right? Yes. [...] I remember that I filed PRs with FreeBSD/NetBSD a few years ago to get this changed, but Redhat Support is giving some some noise about: Well the source vendor doesn't disable it by

Re: sshd_config(5) PermitRootLogin yes

2008-07-10 Thread Fred Crowson
Brian A. Seklecki wrote: Am I reading this right? http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/usr.bin/ssh/sshd_config?rev=1.80content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup I dont have a fresh install anywhere -- but I want to say that it doesnt default to PermitRootLogin yes after the install. I

Re: sshd_config(5) PermitRootLogin yes

2008-07-10 Thread Wade, Daniel
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian A. Seklecki Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:35 AM To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: sshd_config(5) PermitRootLogin yes Am I reading this right? http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-

Re: sshd_config(5) PermitRootLogin yes

2008-07-10 Thread Marco Peereboom
Of course it is enabled by default. Why do I want a box that is freshly installed and unreachable? On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:35:06AM -0400, Brian A. Seklecki wrote: Am I reading this right?

Re: sshd_config(5) PermitRootLogin yes

2008-07-10 Thread Brynet
The keyword here is *default*. Say you installed OpenBSD on a soekris, it's nice having root enabled temporarily. That way you can login at a later time, create a lesser privledged account, edit the sudoers file.. and disable root logins in sshd_config. I believe the developers decision is

Re: sshd_config(5) PermitRootLogin yes

2008-07-10 Thread Paul de Weerd
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 01:21:20PM -0400, Brynet wrote: The keyword here is *default*. Say you installed OpenBSD on a soekris, it's nice having root enabled temporarily. That way you can login at a later time, create a lesser privledged account, edit the sudoers file.. and disable root

Re: sshd_config(5) PermitRootLogin yes

2008-07-10 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 07:40:47PM +0200, Paul de Weerd wrote: root logins are also quite useful when /home is on NFS and NFS is broken somehow and you need to log in to fix stuff. Myself, I keep it enabled, even if I don't have /home on NFS and already have my less-privileged user for sudo

Re: sshd_config(5) PermitRootLogin yes

2008-07-10 Thread Brian A. Seklecki
On Thu, 10 Jul 2008, Brynet wrote: The keyword here is *default*. Say you installed OpenBSD on a soekris, it's nice having root enabled temporarily. That way you can login at a later time, create a lesser privledged account, On Soekris, does the first boot console access not function

Re: sshd_config(5) PermitRootLogin yes

2008-07-10 Thread Brian A. Seklecki
afterboot(8) covers this Works for me, I guess. =/ ~BAS http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=afterbootapropos=0sektion=0ma npath=OpenBSD+Currentarch=i386format=html

Re: sshd_config(5) PermitRootLogin yes

2008-07-10 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini
Paul de Weerd escreveu: On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 01:21:20PM -0400, Brynet wrote: The keyword here is *default*. Say you installed OpenBSD on a soekris, it's nice having root enabled temporarily. That way you can login at a later time, create a lesser privledged account, edit the

Re: sshd_config(5) PermitRootLogin yes

2008-07-10 Thread Brian A. Seklecki
On Thu, 10 Jul 2008, Marco Peereboom wrote: Of course it is enabled by default. Why do I want a box that is freshly installed and unreachable? No -- I just find that most of afterboot(8) can be done from the console; even serial console, at first boot, configure the network, add a non-root

Re: sshd_config(5) PermitRootLogin yes

2008-07-10 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 01:38:22PM -0400, Brian A. Seklecki wrote: I guess I'm just having trouble imagining the situation where you have console access, but need to do basic post-install configuration via the network, as root, remotely. This is how I normally do it. I don't like to stand at

Re: sshd_config(5) PermitRootLogin yes

2008-07-10 Thread Marco Peereboom
And they got it all wrong. It is all for the perceived sense of security. Not being able to login over ssh right after install sucks. I am that guy that ends up enabling it on all other boxes that use a different default. The machine I install and then deploy to be hostile network connected

Re: sshd_config(5) PermitRootLogin yes

2008-07-10 Thread Jacob Yocom-Piatt
Marco Peereboom wrote: And they got it all wrong. It is all for the perceived sense of security. Not being able to login over ssh right after install sucks. I am that guy that ends up enabling it on all other boxes that use a different default. The machine I install and then deploy to be

Re: sshd_config(5) PermitRootLogin yes

2008-07-10 Thread bofh
Dude, Why do you let them tell you because the source blah blah? Isn't that why you pay them lots of $$? On 7/10/08, Brian A. Seklecki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am I reading this right?

Re: sshd_config(5) PermitRootLogin yes

2008-07-10 Thread Brian A. Seklecki
On Thu, 10 Jul 2008, Jacob Yocom-Piatt wrote: maybe if people actually READ THE ARCHIVES, they'd be better informed. i wish this mailing list had I didn't want to rehash it all again. Everyone knows the issues. However, with respect to the right to disagree, if Marco's and Darrin's belief

Re: sshd_config(5) PermitRootLogin yes

2008-07-10 Thread Ted Unangst
On Jul 10, 2008, at 9:19 PM, Brian A. Seklecki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 10 Jul 2008, Jacob Yocom-Piatt wrote: maybe if people actually READ THE ARCHIVES, they'd be better informed. i wish this mailing list There is a security risk / attack vector here, however remote, without

Re: sshd_config(5) PermitRootLogin yes

2008-07-10 Thread Emilio Perea
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 12:19:27AM -0400, Brian A. Seklecki wrote: On Thu, 10 Jul 2008, Jacob Yocom-Piatt wrote: maybe if people actually READ THE ARCHIVES, they'd be better informed. i wish this mailing list had I didn't want to rehash it all again. Everyone knows the issues. However,