Re: Running 4.2? [was Re: CD files - order question]

2007-09-12 Thread Pau Amaro-Seoane
having read and understood that, you should know that for most people -current is more than good enough to work with. I am always running -current in my production system and do not see any major (nor minor) problem. Well, if you want to try the vry lastest drivers of X then you'll have to ask

Re: Strange Lock-ups with Opera?

2007-09-12 Thread Samuel Proulx
Hello, I have the same problem with my opera. I'm not sure what it is but it seem to be related to flash, it usually happen when im trying to view myspace related page ( for music ) . I thought it could be sound related too..maybe it's trying to access sound device when it already in use by

Re: Running 4.2? [was Re: CD files - order question]

2007-09-12 Thread Aaron W. Hsu
Pau, Thanks for your note... [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Well, if you want to try the vry lastest drivers of X then you'll have to ask for them explicitly and do it all by yourself There's one driver that I do want from that, and that's the ATI driver for the X1600 chipsets. However, at the

Re: Problem with setting up printer

2007-09-12 Thread Aaron W. Hsu
Greg, Thanks for your note... On 9/9/07, Aaron W. Hsu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: This is all I have in my printcap, works fine if I use rp from apps or with postcript files, and rptext for plain text files. Did you have to do anything special on the printer

Re: Strange Lock-ups with Opera?

2007-09-12 Thread Greg Thomas
On 9/11/07, Samuel Proulx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I have the same problem with my opera. I'm not sure what it is but it seem to be related to flash, it usually happen when im trying to view myspace related page ( for music ) . I thought it could be sound related too..maybe it's

Re: Strange Lock-ups with Opera?

2007-09-12 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
On Wednesday 12 September 2007 08:41:26 Greg Thomas wrote: I don't have much to add other than I experience the same thing with many Flash sites. Same here only it does not happen only with flash sites. Sometimes, just starting opera and going to google.com is enough to hang... Never looked

Re: can carp state changes log to syslog?

2007-09-12 Thread Claer
On Tue, Sep 11 2007 at 41:12, Bryan Irvine wrote: I've found a couple of threads in the archive about the possibility of adding this feature, but can't seem to find out whether or not this is possible. I think this is the patch you are looking for :

Re: CD files - order question

2007-09-12 Thread JD Bronson
At 08:17 PM 9/11/2007 -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: I understand that I do not get any bootable CD for sparc...but do any of the CDs have the files on them that are needed for an install (all of the .tgz files and the cd.iso file?) The upcoming 4.2 release will include an install42.iso file,

Re: CD files - order question

2007-09-12 Thread z0mbix
On 12/09/2007, JD Bronson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 08:17 PM 9/11/2007 -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: I understand that I do not get any bootable CD for sparc...but do any of the CDs have the files on them that are needed for an install (all of the .tgz files and the cd.iso file?) The

Question about ral max speed?

2007-09-12 Thread Sergey Prysiazhnyi
Hello, I'm using a lot of MiniPCI ral cards in my work with OpenBSD, such as: dmesg | g ral ral0 at pci0 dev 16 function 0 Ralink RT2561S rev 0x00: irq 10, address 00:1a:4d:28:e0:47 ral0: MAC/BBP RT2561C, RF RT2527 In this case I have Subj question: what is the top speed, that I can get from

Re: CD files - order question

2007-09-12 Thread The King of Norway
z0mbix wrote: On 12/09/2007, JD Bronson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 08:17 PM 9/11/2007 -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: I understand that I do not get any bootable CD for sparc...but do any of the CDs have the files on them that are needed for an install (all of the .tgz files and the cd.iso file?)

Sun Netra Disk Arrays

2007-09-12 Thread Edd Barrett
Hi there, I'm just looking at some disk arrays on ebay, the netra range from sun are reasonably priced. For example the Netra st D130. Has anyone tried using this kind of thing with OpenBSD? The official way to configure these kits is via the SSM software for solaris. Is there a way to do this

Re: CD files - order question

2007-09-12 Thread J.D. Bronson
At 06:01 AM 09/12/2007, The King of Norway wrote: JD said that he'd rather make a donation than buy discs that would be a waste of money (both for him and the OpenBSD project since those discs aren't free to produce). That seems like a very commendable attitude. At least, I don't find it

Re: CD files - order question

2007-09-12 Thread Maurice Janssen
On Wednesday, September 12, 2007 at 05:27:49 -0500, JD Bronson wrote: I guess what I meant to ask was that if I order the CDs (and therefore have earlier access than waiting for FTP - which is nice!) would all the needed files be on these (CDs) or will I still need to use FTP for the needed

Re: Sun Netra Disk Arrays

2007-09-12 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2007/09/12 12:09, Edd Barrett wrote: I'm just looking at some disk arrays on ebay, the netra range from sun are reasonably priced. For example the Netra st D130. that one is just a disk box/psu (maybe also ses, I don't remember and mine had to go on a customer Windows box in a hurry so I

Looking for something similar to screen-command

2007-09-12 Thread Jon Sjöstedt
Hello all! I have installed BitTorrent-4.2.2 on my 3.9-box. With this i would like to start file sharing on a console, logout, login later and reattach to the console of the BitTorrent-4.2.2 session. AFAIK this is done in most Linux-distros using the command screen, but how can I do it in BSD?

Re: Sun Netra Disk Arrays

2007-09-12 Thread mickey
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 12:09:50PM +0100, Edd Barrett wrote: Hi there, I'm just looking at some disk arrays on ebay, the netra range from sun are reasonably priced. For example the Netra st D130. Has anyone tried using this kind of thing with OpenBSD? The official way to configure these

Re: Looking for something similar to screen-command

2007-09-12 Thread Jake Conk
You use screen as well :-P On 9/12/07, Jake Conk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You use screen as well :-P On 9/12/07, Jon SjC6stedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all! I have installed BitTorrent-4.2.2 on my 3.9-box. With this i would like to start file sharing on a console, logout, login

Re: Looking for something similar to screen-command

2007-09-12 Thread Woodchuck
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007, Jon Sjvstedt wrote: Hello all! I have installed BitTorrent-4.2.2 on my 3.9-box. With this i would like to start file sharing on a console, logout, login later and reattach to the console of the BitTorrent-4.2.2 session. AFAIK this is done in most Linux-distros using the

Re: Looking for something similar to screen-command

2007-09-12 Thread Cezary Morga
I have installed BitTorrent-4.2.2 on my 3.9-box. With this i would like to start file sharing on a console, logout, login later and reattach to the console of the BitTorrent-4.2.2 session. AFAIK this is done in most Linux-distros using the command screen, but how can I do it in BSD? Use

Re: Looking for something similar to screen-command

2007-09-12 Thread Hannah Schroeter
Hi! On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 01:50:00PM +0200, Jon Sjvstedt wrote: Hello all! I have installed BitTorrent-4.2.2 on my 3.9-box. With this i would like to start file sharing on a console, logout, login later and reattach to the console of the BitTorrent-4.2.2 session. AFAIK this is done in most

Re: Looking for something similar to screen-command

2007-09-12 Thread Paul de Weerd
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 01:50:00PM +0200, Jon Sj?stedt wrote: | Hello all! | | I have installed BitTorrent-4.2.2 on my 3.9-box. With this i would like to | start file sharing on a console, logout, login later and reattach to the | console of the BitTorrent-4.2.2 session. AFAIK this is done in most

Re: Looking for something similar to screen-command

2007-09-12 Thread Sunnz
Can't you just install screen? pkg_add -iv screen ?? 2007/9/12, Jon SjC6stedt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello all! I have installed BitTorrent-4.2.2 on my 3.9-box. With this i would like to start file sharing on a console, logout, login later and reattach to the console of the BitTorrent-4.2.2

Setting up ccd RAID 1 Howto OpenBSD 4.1

2007-09-12 Thread Jake Conk
Hello, I've searched hi and low for hours on how to setup my system of a RAID 1 and basically what it comes down to is ccd and/or Raid Frame. I've found helpful docs on using some of the commands and where to put my configurations but nothing seems complete enough for me to figure it out. I have

Re: Looking for something similar to screen-command

2007-09-12 Thread Nico Meijer
Hi Jon, I have installed BitTorrent-4.2.2 on my 3.9-box. Eek. Upgrade. :-) http://openbsd.alphix.se/faq/upgrade40.html http://openbsd.alphix.se/faq/upgrade41.html With this i would like to start file sharing on a console, logout, login later and reattach to the console of the

Re: Looking for something similar to screen-command

2007-09-12 Thread Jon Sjöstedt
Ok, thanks! Please dont kill me any more!:) You use screen as well :-P On 9/12/07, Jon Sjvstedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all! I have installed BitTorrent-4.2.2 on my 3.9-box. With this i would like to start file sharing on a console, logout, login later and reattach to the console of

Re: Looking for something similar to screen-command

2007-09-12 Thread Will Maier
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 01:50:00PM +0200, Jon Sjostedt wrote: I have installed BitTorrent-4.2.2 on my 3.9-box. With this i would like to start file sharing on a console, logout, login later and reattach to the console of the BitTorrent-4.2.2 session. AFAIK this is done in most Linux-distros

Re: how get colour mutt when ssh from OBSD?

2007-09-12 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 07:55:27AM +0200, Pau Amaro-Seoane wrote: yes, I tried this before I posted here but no way... it's not working in my case... mmmh... thanks anyway Did you use TERM=screen on both ends of the ssh, i.e. on OBSD before ssh and on linux after ssh? Try TERM=screen.

Re: Setting up ccd RAID 1 Howto OpenBSD 4.1

2007-09-12 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 04:53:29AM -0700, Jake Conk wrote: I have OpenBSD 4.1 installed on one disk and I have an exact duplicate disk where i want to mirror my installation to incase of disk failure. If this needs to be setup during install I'm willing reinstall everything or if there is a

Re: how get colour mutt when ssh from OBSD?

2007-09-12 Thread Pau Amaro-Seoane
yes... it doesn't help I thought left-clicking on the xterm, and selecting Backarrow Key (BS/DEL) would do it, and afterwards typing `stty erase ` and then ctrl-v and then hitting backspace and enter... but that's only for xterm. What, if you're using a different terminal, like aterm, eterm,

Sparc64 Panic -current : Caused by PGX64 graphics card

2007-09-12 Thread Edd Barrett
Hi, I bought a PGX64 graphics card hoping to have accelerated X on my sun blade 1000. Unfortunately it cause a panic. Here's the details: ---8--- SUNW,Sun-Blade-1000 (UltraSPARC-III) , No Keyboard Copyright 1998-2004 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All rights reserved. OpenBoot 4.16.4, 1024 MB memory

Re: Sparc64 Panic -current : Caused by PGX64 graphics card

2007-09-12 Thread Miod Vallat
I bought a PGX64 graphics card hoping to have accelerated X on my sun blade 1000. Unfortunately it cause a panic. Here's the details: Does it panic if you use the glass console instead of the serial console? Miod

Re: Sparc64 Panic -current : Caused by PGX64 graphics card

2007-09-12 Thread Edd Barrett
On 12/09/2007, Miod Vallat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bought a PGX64 graphics card hoping to have accelerated X on my sun blade 1000. Unfortunately it cause a panic. Here's the details: Does it panic if you use the glass console instead of the serial console? Afraid so. I only put the

Re: Sparc64 Panic -current : Caused by PGX64 graphics card

2007-09-12 Thread Miod Vallat
I bought a PGX64 graphics card hoping to have accelerated X on my sun blade 1000. Unfortunately it cause a panic. Here's the details: Does it panic if you use the glass console instead of the serial console? Afraid so. I only put the serial line in so I could copy and paste it into the

Re: Looking for something similar to screen-command

2007-09-12 Thread Jeremy C. Reed
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007, Jon Sjvstedt wrote: Ok, thanks! Please dont kill me any more!:) Well one more: window(1) is something similar to screen and is included with OpenBSD: http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=window You use screen as well :-P Jeremy C. Reed

Re: Setting up ccd RAID 1 Howto OpenBSD 4.1

2007-09-12 Thread Steve Williams
Jake Conk wrote: Hello, I've searched hi and low for hours on how to setup my system of a RAID 1 and basically what it comes down to is ccd and/or Raid Frame. I've found helpful docs on using some of the commands and where to put my configurations but nothing seems complete enough for me to

Re: Sparc64 Panic -current : Caused by PGX64 graphics card

2007-09-12 Thread Miod Vallat
I think this is the device: /[EMAIL PROTECTED],60/SUNW,[EMAIL PROTECTED] Correct. reg 0800 02000810 0100 02000818

Re: Sparc64 Panic -current : Caused by PGX64 graphics card

2007-09-12 Thread Edd Barrett
Hi, On 12/09/2007, Miod Vallat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bought a PGX64 graphics card hoping to have accelerated X on my sun blade 1000. Unfortunately it cause a panic. Here's the details: Does it panic if you use the glass console instead of the serial console? Afraid so. I

Re: Sparc64 Panic -current : Caused by PGX64 graphics card

2007-09-12 Thread Edd Barrett
On 12/09/2007, Miod Vallat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes and no; I was wondering if the memory regions were, for some reason, not consistent with the reported geometry, but everything looks correct. This (conveniently) looks like a schizo issue to me at the moment. Ok well, I have access to

Re: Setting up ccd RAID 1 Howto OpenBSD 4.1

2007-09-12 Thread nicodache
I personnaly used the following doc to set up my software raid 1 frame : http://www.linux.com/articles/52713 good luck :) On 9/12/07, Steve Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jake Conk wrote: Hello, I've searched hi and low for hours on how to setup my system of a RAID 1 and basically

VMware releases the sources of VMware tools

2007-09-12 Thread Martin Schröder
VMware is announcing the release of large portions of VMware Tools for Linux, Solaris and FreeBSD guests under GPL and GPL-compatible licenses. VMware is also announcing the creation of the Open Virtual Machine Tools (open-vm-tools) project on Sourceforge.net. This will become the home for ongoing

Re: Question about ral max speed?

2007-09-12 Thread Daniel Melameth
On 9/12/07, Sergey Prysiazhnyi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using a lot of MiniPCI ral cards in my work with OpenBSD, such as: dmesg | g ral ral0 at pci0 dev 16 function 0 Ralink RT2561S rev 0x00: irq 10, address 00:1a:4d:28:e0:47 ral0: MAC/BBP RT2561C, RF RT2527 In this case I have Subj

Re: Question about ral max speed?

2007-09-12 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2007/09/12 09:43, Daniel Melameth wrote: I doubt you will ever see true 54Mb/s using 802.11g or 802.11a under any OS. You will not; that is the data rate transmitted by the radio, which is quoted before protocol overheads are taken into account.

Qemu + auich = sound ?

2007-09-12 Thread Allie D.
Can anyone give me a hint how to get sound working in Qemu ? I'm running an X31 and am starting -soundhw all but I don't think it covers my sound hardware. The precompiled 4.1 package has: pcspk PC speaker sb16Creative Sound Blaster 16 es1370 ENSONIQ AudioPCI ES1370 But my

Re: Qemu + auich = sound ?

2007-09-12 Thread Allie D.
On Wed, September 12, 2007 10:18, Chris Kuethe wrote: I'm gonna take a wild guess and say a) those are the emulated soundcards qemu can present to the guest OS, and b) qemu should just be able to do OSS audio to the host OS. It's not working out of the box. I'm gonna try and build from ports

unix on lenovos

2007-09-12 Thread Pau Amaro-Seoane
Hi, there's a poll about which linux (please read here UNIX) you'd like to see preinstalled/supported on the lenovos thinkpads http://lenovoblogs.com/insidethebox/?p=98 You'll notice that Mark Kohut (Lenovo's worldwide analyst) cannot tell the difference between linux and BSD (both freebsd and

AMD Releases 900+ Pages Of GPU Specs

2007-09-12 Thread Tony Lambiris
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=NjA1Mw Thoughts?

Re: unstable and multiple reboot for 4.2 on Sun X4100 M2 with ACPI enable on AMD64 bsd.mp with SAS RAID 1 setup.

2007-09-12 Thread Rolf Sommerhalder
I did observe similar behaviour on four X4100 M2 as well (two with one socket dual-core, two with two sockets dual-core Opterons) using amd64 bsd.mp snapshots from 23 and 28 Aug.. Currently, amd64 bsd.mp snapshot 28. Aug is running stable on those four servers, although using a single SAS disk

Re: comics and recurring donations Was: Show your appreciation and get your 4.2 DVD

2007-09-12 Thread Tobias Weingartner
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Craig Brozefsky wrote: /me raids refrigerator for leftover curried rice... Curried rice! Hmm... gotta get me some new spices... -- [100~Plax]sb16i0A2172656B63616820636420726568746F6E61207473754A[dZ1!=b]salax

Re: unstable and multiple reboot for 4.2 on Sun X4100 M2 with ACPI enable on AMD64 bsd.mp with SAS RAID 1 setup.

2007-09-12 Thread Daniel Ouellet
Rolf Sommerhalder wrote: I did observe similar behaviour on four X4100 M2 as well (two with one socket dual-core, two with two sockets dual-core Opterons) using amd64 bsd.mp snapshots from 23 and 28 Aug.. Currently, amd64 bsd.mp snapshot 28. Aug is running stable on those four servers, although

Further developments regarding the Atheros driver

2007-09-12 Thread Theo de Raadt
Reyk and I have decided to show something from the private handling of this Atheros copyright violation issue. It has been like pulling teeth since (most) Linux wireless guys and the SFLC do not wish to admit fault. I think that the Linux wireless guys should really think hard about this problem,

Re: unstable and multiple reboot for 4.2 on Sun X4100 M2 with ACPI enable on AMD64 bsd.mp with SAS RAID 1 setup.

2007-09-12 Thread Tobias Weingartner
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Daniel Ouellet wrote: So, I am not sure what testing you did, unless you built your own. new Snapshots was just release now, witch I will be happy to test tonight and see the results and report back. If you guys could test out my ACPI diff I posted to

Re: Question about ral max speed?

2007-09-12 Thread Karsten McMinn
On 9/12/07, Stuart Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2007/09/12 09:43, Daniel Melameth wrote: I doubt you will ever see true 54Mb/s using 802.11g or 802.11a under any OS. You will not; that is the data rate transmitted by the radio, which is quoted before protocol overheads are taken

Re: Question about ral max speed?

2007-09-12 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Sergey Prysiazhnyi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it normal? Any dmesg? What about the max speeds that you'd ever seen on ral? Can I see smth. about 54 Mbps between 2 OpenBSD boxes? If it is yes, please, what stuff? Producer, vendor? The maximum real world speed I see on my .11g WLAN--Linksys

Re: unstable and multiple reboot for 4.2 on Sun X4100 M2 with ACPI enable on AMD64 bsd.mp with SAS RAID 1 setup.

2007-09-12 Thread Daniel Ouellet
Here is the new dmesg for current. So far the boot process is much faster and do not hang anymore. I am doing install on three more boxes now and will do a bunch of reboot cycles to see the end results. Still some acpi not configure in the dmesg, but so far does look better. Also, note this

Re: unstable and multiple reboot for 4.2 on Sun X4100 M2 with ACPI enable on AMD64 bsd.mp with SAS RAID 1 setup.

2007-09-12 Thread Pierre Riteau
Le 12 sept. 07 ` 23:42, Daniel Ouellet a icrit : Here is the new dmesg for current. So far the boot process is much faster and do not hang anymore. I am doing install on three more boxes now and will do a bunch of reboot cycles to see the end results. Still some acpi not configure in the

Re: unstable and multiple reboot for 4.2 on Sun X4100 M2 with ACPI enable on AMD64 bsd.mp with SAS RAID 1 setup.

2007-09-12 Thread Daniel Ouellet
Tobias Weingartner wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Daniel Ouellet wrote: So, I am not sure what testing you did, unless you built your own. new Snapshots was just release now, witch I will be happy to test tonight and see the results and report back. If you guys could test out my

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Re: AMD Releases 900+ Pages Of GPU Specs

2007-09-12 Thread Steve Shockley
Tony Lambiris wrote: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=NjA1Mw More relevant, but slow: http://www.x.org/docs/AMD/

Re: Strange Lock-ups with Opera?

2007-09-12 Thread Vadim Jukov
2007/9/12, Antoine Jacoutot [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wednesday 12 September 2007 08:41:26 Greg Thomas wrote: I don't have much to add other than I experience the same thing with many Flash sites. Same here only it does not happen only with flash sites. Sometimes, just starting opera and going

Re: [OT] password aging/expiry

2007-09-12 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2007/09/10 18:29, jul wrote: * if too much restrictions on passphrase, they will go on post-it, PDA or else which are, in general, less secure. Depends on the threat model, but that is often safer than a weak memorised password. How about this as a better alternative: write down a strong

Re: AMD Releases 900+ Pages Of GPU Specs

2007-09-12 Thread Leonardo Rodrigues
Could this lead to an implementation of a driver that is less evil, I mean that does not bypass kernel in order to mess around with registers etc? Or is this the design state of all video cards on the market? -- An OpenBSD user... and that's all you need to know =) Please, send private emails

Re: What Linux distribution would you most like to see supported on a ThinkPad?

2007-09-12 Thread Darren Spruell
On 9/12/07, Sunnz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://lenovoblogs.com/insidethebox/?p=98 Interestingly both FreeBSD and OpenBSD are listed as a choice of Linux distro; as well as anyone that refuses to carry binary-only drivers, so that all others will also benefit, as it will require documented

Re: Strange Lock-ups with Opera?

2007-09-12 Thread Aaron W. Hsu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: only in dual-CPU mode This is very interesting to me, as I am running using the MP kernel as well. I am doing so because I have a Dual Core system, but, maybe there is not that big of a performance gain? -- ((name Aaron Hsu) (email/xmpp [EMAIL PROTECTED]) (phone

The Atheros story in much fewer words

2007-09-12 Thread Theo de Raadt
I recognize that writeup about the Atheros / Linux / SFLC story is a bit complex, so I wrote a very simple explanation to someone, and they liked it's clarity so much that they asked me to post it for everyone. Here it is (with a few more changes) - starting premise: you can already use

Re: Qemu + auich = sound ?

2007-09-12 Thread Allie Daneman
Progress...I setup the following environment variables and got sound...but it was choppy as hell. export QEMU_AUDIO_DRV=oss QEMU_OSS_DAC_DEV=/dev/audio QEMU_OSS_ADC_DEV=/dev/audio Rodrigo V. Raimundo([EMAIL PROTECTED])@Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 03:00:01PM -0300: -soundhw emulates the sound card that

[FIXED] Re: Problem with setting up printer

2007-09-12 Thread Aaron W. Hsu
Alright, I figured out how to make this printer work finally, and I thought I would summarize the work I did for the list in hopes that it will help anyone else who is having similar problems: Printer: Brother HL-2070N connected over static IP on an ethernet line. Problem: When sending jobs to

Re: Setting up ccd RAID 1 Howto OpenBSD 4.1

2007-09-12 Thread Jake Conk
Hey, I tried following that article but I got stuck at the part where you start partition your second drive. I created the first partition with 100mb and type of 4.2 BSD then when I tried to create the second partition on my drive as FS_RAID as the article says but it said that FS_RAID is an