Re: INSTALLING XFCE

2015-04-02 Thread Peter Hessler
the *VERY NEXT LINE* tells you something important. Follow those directions. On 2015 Apr 01 (Wed) at 23:33:47 +0300 (+0300), cray cray wrote: :hello... :when i'm trying to run the following command pkg_add -Iv xfce and installing :the depedencies :i get an error on

Re: INSTALLING XFCE

2015-04-02 Thread Martin Pieuchot
On 01/04/15(Wed) 23:33, cray cray wrote: hello... when i'm trying to run the following command pkg_add -Iv xfce and installing the depedencies i get an error on xfce-4.10:gnome-icon-theme-3.8.2 vm_fault (0xd5ecc880, 0xa8, 0, 1) - e kernel: page fault trap, code=0 stopped at

Re: differences between pk_add -u and building from source at stable

2015-04-02 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 11:48:16PM -0400, dan mclaughlin wrote: if you want the version that the port build will produce do: $ (cd /usr/ports/lang/gcc/4.8/ make _print-packagename) gcc-4.8.4p2 there are alot of options for make that are in bsd.port.mk(5) (although the one i used above is

Re: a few questions to httpd

2015-04-02 Thread Eric Furman
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015, at 11:21 AM, Markus Rosjat wrote: Am 01.04.2015 um 16:51 schrieb Alexander Hall: On April 1, 2015 4:32:43 PM GMT+02:00, Markus Rosjat ros...@ghweb.de wrote: Hi there, since 5.7 will not have a apache or a nginx as out of the box webserver it would be nice to

Re: reason for having return addresses in parameter stack?

2015-04-02 Thread Joel Rees
I was asleep when I posted this, so I left out the example code. Don't know why, but I worked out more complete code than the example I failed to give. To keep chatter off the list, I posted it in my blog, if anyone is interested. (Probably not?)

Re: Can someone with current do :

2015-04-02 Thread Martin Pieuchot
On 01/04/15(Wed) 20:30, sven falempin wrote: ping 8.8.88. (probably fixed by then, it crash here but i am far from current) What crashes? ping? The kernel? Could you provide trace? A bug report without information is useless, nobody can tell if it is already fixed or even if it has the

Re: Executable signing - a proposal

2015-04-02 Thread Kapetanakis Giannis
On 31/03/15 21:14, Robert wrote: On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 10:10:31AM -0500, Joe Crivello wrote: I can't think of any other scenarios right now, but I'd be interested to hear if there is something I'm not thinking of... Let's cut this short: To prevent (in theory) various attack vectors (e.g.,

Re: Executable signing - a proposal

2015-04-02 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 02:37:53PM +0100, Gareth Nelson wrote: For scripts that are set executable, it works exactly the same way - for everything else it won't work unless the interpreter is patched, it's still an overall massive improvement in security.

What happens to OpenBSD when Secure Boot becomes manditory?

2015-04-02 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all, What happens to OpenBSD when Secure Boot becomes manditory? http://www.pcworld.com/article/2901262/microsoft-tightens-windows-10s-secure-boot-screws-where-does-that-leave-linux.html

Re: What happens to OpenBSD when Secure Boot becomes manditory?

2015-04-02 Thread Todd C. Miller
On Thu, 02 Apr 2015 16:38:29 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: What happens to OpenBSD when Secure Boot becomes manditory? Please read those articles again, Secure Boot is *not* mandatory for Windows 10. The major change is that for Windows 8 Microsoft *required* hardware vendors to provide a setting

Re: differences between pk_add -u and building from source at stable

2015-04-02 Thread Joel Rees
Thanks for the comments. I've been re-reading faq 15 and related stuff, and realized that I thought I had figured this out before. My memory is not improving with age. This is how I re-understand it now: pkg_add -u is for getting packages with issues that are severe enough to motivate one of

post mortem analysis

2015-04-02 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, I have my old SparcStation running headless, during compilation it hangs. I don't have a serial console connected, nor video. I see that it stops responding to ssh and the power led which usually pulsates remains either in on or off fixed. Besides from trying to reproduce the bug with a

Re: What happens to OpenBSD when Secure Boot becomes manditory?

2015-04-02 Thread Dag Richards
Todd C. Miller wrote: On Thu, 02 Apr 2015 16:38:29 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: What happens to OpenBSD when Secure Boot becomes manditory? Please read those articles again, Secure Boot is *not* mandatory for Windows 10. The major change is that for Windows 8 Microsoft *required* hardware

Re: Secure PDF viewer

2015-04-02 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, John D. Verne wrote on Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 09:33:25AM -0400: Somebody wrote: I sometimes have to deal with PDF files (ugh) and all I need is the ability to view and print them, nothing fancy. With security in mind I would like to get opinions on the best one to use. There are

Re: Secure PDF viewer

2015-04-02 Thread dan mclaughlin
On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 11:47:04 -0400 Jiri B ji...@devio.us wrote: On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 12:33:25AM -0400, Eric Furman wrote: I sometimes have to deal with PDF files (ugh) and all I need is the ability to view and print them, nothing fancy. With security in mind I would like to get opinions

Re: What happens to OpenBSD when Secure Boot becomes manditory?

2015-04-02 Thread John Merriam
On Thu, 2 Apr 2015, Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, What happens to OpenBSD when Secure Boot becomes manditory? http://www.pcworld.com/article/2901262/microsoft-tightens-windows-10s-secure-boot-screws-where-does-that-leave-linux.html

[INSTALLATION]Network Adapter no link...sleeping!

2015-04-02 Thread Yass Amed
Greetings, I am having a hard time getting OpenBSD to connect to the internet during the installation. No matter what I use (5.5, 5.6, or 5.7) they all report em0: no linksleeping which indicate that OpenBSD thinks that the network adapter is not connected to a router/switch. Arch: AMD64

Re: OpenBSD.org gets SANCTIONED .RU

2015-04-02 Thread Paul S.
I thought it had something to do with April fools `-` On 4/3/2015 午前 03:45, Jeremiah Ford wrote: On 2015-04-02 12:50, Артур Истомин wrote: On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 09:13:32PM -0700, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: Dear misc and advocacy, It has come to my attention that OpenBSD.org has been

Re: [INSTALLATION]Network Adapter no link...sleeping!

2015-04-02 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 12:09:51AM +, Yass Amed wrote: I am having a hard time getting OpenBSD to connect to the internet during the installation. No matter what I use (5.5, 5.6, or 5.7) they all report em0: no linksleeping which indicate that OpenBSD thinks that the network adapter

Re: Secure PDF viewer

2015-04-02 Thread Eric Furman
Thanks for the info and I expected someone to suggest this, but I didn't really want to go all crazy. :) I wanted to know if there was a secure one so I wouldn't have to jump through all these kind of hoops. Thanks anyway. On Thu, Apr 2, 2015, at 04:17 PM, dan mclaughlin wrote: On Thu, 2 Apr

Re: Executable signing - a proposal

2015-04-02 Thread Kevin Chadwick
This is exactly like immutable files until you go back to boot -s. Such a pain in the ass to deal as soon as you want to play with machines to which you don't have direct physical access. You could set a flag which runs a script before the securelevel is raised on the next boot but you

Re: Can someone with current do :

2015-04-02 Thread sven falempin
On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 4:51 AM, Martin Pieuchot m...@openbsd.org wrote: On 01/04/15(Wed) 20:30, sven falempin wrote: ping 8.8.88. (probably fixed by then, it crash here but i am far from current) What crashes? ping? The kernel? Could you provide trace? A bug report without

Re: differences between pk_add -u and building from source at stable

2015-04-02 Thread dan mclaughlin
On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 11:50:12 +0200 Marc Espie es...@nerim.net wrote: On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 11:48:16PM -0400, dan mclaughlin wrote: if you want the version that the port build will produce do: $ (cd /usr/ports/lang/gcc/4.8/ make _print-packagename) gcc-4.8.4p2 there are alot of

Re: differences between pk_add -u and building from source at stable

2015-04-02 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Wed, 01 Apr 2015 22:34:06 -0400 John Merriam wrote: I don't mind using ports instead of packages myself. But, I haven't tried OpenBSD on the desktop yet (routers/firewalls and servers so far). Compiling huge stuff that updates often like Firefox could be kind of a pain I would guess.

Panic: malloc: out of space in kmem_map

2015-04-02 Thread Evgeniy Sudyr
Hi all, On -stable with patches installed on Supermicro server, got Panic: malloc: out of space in kmem_map. This is first time this panic happened. On this server haproxy and bgpd were running where haproxy was running under high load ± 3.5 before failure. Sorry, but I have no access to

Re: a few questions to httpd

2015-04-02 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Wed, 01 Apr 2015 16:36:59 +0200 Markus Rosjat wrote: so I think I just solved this myself but if someone with experience in setting it up likes to give hints I'll gladly take tehm :) Chroot - yes Virtual Host - Yes SNI - Not yet, but pound from ports in front of httpd works.

Re: Secure PDF viewer

2015-04-02 Thread dan mclaughlin
On Thu, 02 Apr 2015 23:11:57 -0400 Eric Furman ericfur...@fastmail.net wrote: Thanks for the info and I expected someone to suggest this, but I didn't really want to go all crazy. :) I wanted to know if there was a secure one so I wouldn't have to jump through all these kind of hoops. Thanks

Re: What happens to OpenBSD when Secure Boot becomes manditory?

2015-04-02 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 02 Apr 2015 14:47:59 -0600 Todd C. Miller todd.mil...@courtesan.com wrote: On Thu, 02 Apr 2015 16:38:29 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: What happens to OpenBSD when Secure Boot becomes manditory? Please read those articles again, Secure Boot is *not* mandatory for Windows 10. The major

Re: Secure PDF viewer

2015-04-02 Thread Jiri B
On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 12:33:25AM -0400, Eric Furman wrote: I sometimes have to deal with PDF files (ugh) and all I need is the ability to view and print them, nothing fancy. With security in mind I would like to get opinions on the best one to use. Thanks. Run it chrooted under non-default

Re: Panic: malloc: out of space in kmem_map

2015-04-02 Thread Mark Kettenis
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2015 13:16:12 +0200 From: Evgeniy Sudyr eject.in...@gmail.com Hi all, On -stable with patches installed on Supermicro server, got Panic: malloc: out of space in kmem_map. This is first time this panic happened. On this server haproxy and bgpd were running where

Re: Can someone with current do :

2015-04-02 Thread Kent R. Spillner
On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 08:19:00AM -0400, sven falempin wrote: Sorry, no time to make a decent report ATM, must release. route add XXX -link -iface Y creates problems. Such a beautiful piece of performance art should be preserved: Index: usr.bin/mg//theo.c

Re: differences between pk_add -u and building from source at stable

2015-04-02 Thread John Merriam
On Thu, 2 Apr 2015, Kevin Chadwick wrote: On Wed, 01 Apr 2015 22:34:06 -0400 John Merriam wrote: I don't mind using ports instead of packages myself. But, I haven't tried OpenBSD on the desktop yet (routers/firewalls and servers so far). Compiling huge stuff that updates often like

Re: Secure PDF viewer

2015-04-02 Thread John D. Verne
I sometimes have to deal with PDF files (ugh) and all I need is the ability to view and print them, nothing fancy. With security in mind I would like to get opinions on the best one to use. Thanks. There are PDF-to-mandoc converters out there. Assuming the conversion tool is sound, I imagine OBSD

seamonkey error

2015-04-02 Thread Eivind Eide
Which mailinglist are the correct one for errors with ports BTW? I had a problem with seamonkey over several snapshots now; it won't start. I've tried everything I can think of tracking it down. I would appreciate some pointers. It's seamonkey-2.33.1 on i386 and this is the error message it

Re: Can someone with current do :

2015-04-02 Thread sven falempin
On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Kent R. Spillner kspill...@acm.org wrote: On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 08:19:00AM -0400, sven falempin wrote: Sorry, no time to make a decent report ATM, must release. route add XXX -link -iface Y creates problems. Such a beautiful piece of performance art

Re: dmesg after install

2015-04-02 Thread Adam Wolk
On Thu, Apr 2, 2015, at 08:22 PM, Philip Guenther wrote: On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 11:15 AM, Philip Guenther guent...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Adam Wolk adam.w...@koparo.com wrote: ... My questions is how valuable are dmesgs from snapshots past releases? - Should

Re: Secure PDF viewer

2015-04-02 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Eric Furman wrote: I sometimes have to deal with PDF files (ugh) and all I need is the ability to view and print them, nothing fancy. With security in mind I would like to get opinions on the best one to use. Thanks. I use GSPdf, which just calls ghostscript, you could ghostscript itself.

Re: OpenBSD.org gets SANCTIONED .RU

2015-04-02 Thread Jeremiah Ford
On 2015-04-02 12:50, Артур Истомин wrote: On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 09:13:32PM -0700, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: Dear misc and advocacy, It has come to my attention that OpenBSD.org has been sanctioned today. It has been sanctioned in the category of best desktop OS. Some other sites

Re: dmesg after install

2015-04-02 Thread John D. Verne
Path C: - Just directly install a snapshot - send dmesg? Note that this path means staying on -current, if my understanding of the FAQ is correct. I only mention this because I've recently had some hardware where I have to decide to stay on -current (or not boot OBSD), using occasional

Re: dmesg after install

2015-04-02 Thread Philip Guenther
On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Adam Wolk adam.w...@koparo.com wrote: ... My questions is how valuable are dmesgs from snapshots past releases? - Should I care to email the dmesg from the 5.6 installation when 5.7 is almost shipped? - Is it valuable for the project to upgrade to 5.7 just

Re: dmesg after install

2015-04-02 Thread Philip Guenther
On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 11:15 AM, Philip Guenther guent...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Adam Wolk adam.w...@koparo.com wrote: ... My questions is how valuable are dmesgs from snapshots past releases? - Should I care to email the dmesg from the 5.6 installation when 5.7

Re: OpenBSD.org gets SANCTIONED .RU

2015-04-02 Thread Артур Истомин
On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 09:13:32PM -0700, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: Dear misc and advocacy, It has come to my attention that OpenBSD.org has been sanctioned today. It has been sanctioned in the category of best desktop OS. Some other sites sanctioned together with OpenBSD.org are

dmesg after install

2015-04-02 Thread Adam Wolk
Hi misc@, The 'Welcome to OpenBSD 5.x!' email states: If you wish to ensure that OpenBSD runs better on your machines, please do us a favor (after you have your mail system configured!) and type something like: # (dmesg; sysctl hw.sensors) | \ mail -s Sony VAIO 505R laptop, apm works

Re: post mortem analysis

2015-04-02 Thread Todd C. Miller
On Thu, 02 Apr 2015 23:57:21 +0200, Riccardo Mottola wrote: I checked messages and I see the dmesg from one boot then directly the other boot, no messages in between. Where else could I check? Since you don't have a console you might want to add the following to /etc/sysctl.conf if you don't

Re: post mortem analysis

2015-04-02 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Todd C. Miller wrote: Since you don't have a console you might want to add the following to /etc/sysctl.conf if you don't already have them: ddb.panic=0 # 0=Do not drop into ddb on a kernel panic ddb.log=1 # 1=Log ddb output in kernel message

Re: What happens to OpenBSD when Secure Boot becomes manditory?

2015-04-02 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini
On 02-04-2015 17:52, John Merriam wrote: I have a feeling that there will be alternatives to secure boot for a while if not forever. I for one will never buy anything that is secure boot only unless the 'secure boot' is something that I have complete control over. I would rather use a