Re: Show your appreciation and get your 4.2 DVD

2007-09-10 Thread Richard Toohey
The public visibility is good for those people who have to chivvy their employers to contribute. So although it seems like a very trivial thing (and you guys have a million better things to do,) it does make a difference to some of us who are trying to get some more $ $$s in the kitty. PH

Re: scanner??

2007-09-10 Thread Denny White
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 10 September 2007 12:08:48 Vim Visual wrote: > > ... and I wonder whether any of you has a recommendation for me. On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 12:14:30PM +0200, Antoine Jacoutot spake wrote: > Epson are usually very well supported. > See: http://w

Re: filesystems?

2007-09-10 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007, Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2007/09/10 23:54, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: > > oh, so that's what happened when I put my new 4GB USB stick into a > > Windows machine. On OpenBSD, it just mounted like regular (but > > looking at messages right now it actually shows up as an em

Re: CARP access outside a subnet

2007-09-10 Thread david l goodrich
Sorry about dredging this up again. A move got in the way and ... well, anyway. The upshot is, the hostnames have changed, and the subnet has changed, but the configuration and problem are effectively identical. The pings from the outside don't error out, they just never return. the outside mac

Re: filesystems?

2007-09-10 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2007/09/10 23:54, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: > oh, so that's what happened when I put my new 4GB USB stick into a > Windows machine. On OpenBSD, it just mounted like regular (but > looking at messages right now it actually shows up as an emulated CD > plus the regular drive) Kinda like huawei

Re: Virtualisation

2007-09-10 Thread Karsten McMinn
On 9/10/07, Adrian Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I want to use it for a mixture of web-hosting, virtual servers, etc. but > also for running a new online game. I want to ensure (as much as is > possible) that a system fails for whatever reason the workload running on it > is automatically re

Re: filesystems?

2007-09-10 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
"L. V. Lammert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Watch out for USB sticks!! Many now are coming with 'U3' - a piece of > crap piece of s/w that will try to crash your machine whenever you > insert it. oh, so that's what happened when I put my new 4GB USB stick into a Windows machine. On OpenBSD, it

Re: problem with ipsec tunnel between pix and openbsd

2007-09-10 Thread Prabhu Gurumurthy
Sebastian Reitenbach wrote: Hi, I setup a tunnel between a pix and an openbsd isakmpd to connect two networks behind each tunnel endpoint. pinging through the tunnel from both sides works, for the first 15 minutes. then the ping stops working. When I recreate the tunnel, then the ping starts t

Re: filesystems?

2007-09-10 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 10:33 PM 9/10/2007 +0200, Andrea Ferraresi wrote: I think that the best choice is FAT32 it will works out-of-the-box on all systems a usb stick isn't a device that must have some performance IMHO Watch out for USB sticks!! Many now are coming with 'U3' - a piece of crap piece of s/w that wi

Re: filesystems?

2007-09-10 Thread Andrea Ferraresi
I think that the best choice is FAT32 it will works out-of-the-box on all systems a usb stick isn't a device that must have some performance IMHO 2007/9/8, Shawn K. Quinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sun, 2007-09-02 at 20:51 -0400, stan wrote: > > I'm trying to decide what filesystem to use on a USB

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Re: OT: Sun X4100 M2 management interface out of wack suggestions?

2007-09-10 Thread Daniel Ouellet
Hi, Quick updates on this one. My problem is now solved and I got very nice help from some gentlemen working at Sun that step in off list to help me out and all is now finally work. Nice to see some good guys following misc@ and be interested to make sure Sun hardware (some of them anyway)

Re: Virtualisation

2007-09-10 Thread Renaud Allard
Adrian Fisher wrote: > I want to use it for a mixture of web-hosting, virtual servers, etc. but > also for running a new online game. I want to ensure (as much as is > possible) that a system fails for whatever reason the workload running on it > is automatically redistributed across the remaining

Re: help needed with laptop hdd

2007-09-10 Thread Henning Brauer
* Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-09-10 17:57]: > unfortunately the harddisk in my X40 died. And even worse, I just > learned that the disk in the X40 is kind of special. It is a 1.8" hard > disk that does NOT use the ZIF connector (these are somewhat common) > but the same 44pin connec

Re: how get colour mutt when ssh from OBSD?

2007-09-10 Thread Jeff Quast
On 9/10/07, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > I have a box that runs OpenBSD that sshes into my Debian box. On > OpenBSD, the default colour term is vt220 so when I ssh to debian, TERM > is set to vt220. > > When I run mc, all is well; colour, line draw, whatever. > > When I

Re: Show your appreciation and get your 4.2 DVD

2007-09-10 Thread Dag Richards
Theo de Raadt wrote: Theo de Raadt wrote: Theo de Raadt wrote: Decreasing CD sales means the margins have to be adjusted. More of you are relying on our FTP services, and also donating less. Hey Theo just a quick suggestion to increase the cash donations: Why aren't the web-order-cash-don

Re: how get colour mutt when ssh from OBSD?

2007-09-10 Thread terry tyson
On 9/10/07, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello, > > I have a box that runs OpenBSD that sshes into my Debian box. On > OpenBSD, the default colour term is vt220 so when I ssh to debian, TERM > is set to vt220. > > When I run mc, all is well; colour, line draw, whatever. > > When

Re: how get colour mutt when ssh from OBSD?

2007-09-10 Thread Gleydson Soares
On 9/10/07, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > I have a box that runs OpenBSD that sshes into my Debian box. On > OpenBSD, the default colour term is vt220 so when I ssh to debian, TERM > is set to vt220. env TERM=xterm-color [EMAIL PROTECTED]

how get colour mutt when ssh from OBSD?

2007-09-10 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
Hello, I have a box that runs OpenBSD that sshes into my Debian box. On OpenBSD, the default colour term is vt220 so when I ssh to debian, TERM is set to vt220. When I run mc, all is well; colour, line draw, whatever. When I run lynx or mutt, I get black on white with no colour. On Lynx this

Re: help needed with laptop hdd

2007-09-10 Thread Andreas Maus
On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 05:48:31PM +0200, Henning Brauer wrote: > Hi, > > unfortunately the harddisk in my X40 died. And even worse, I just > learned that the disk in the X40 is kind of special. It is a 1.8" hard > disk that does NOT use the ZIF connector (these are somewhat common) > but the s

Re: upgrading ports from 4.1 to 4.2

2007-09-10 Thread nicodache
ok. so you all advice me to install 4.2 with xbase. and with that, I can install packages/ports with no_x11, and things that needs X parts will work correctly ? I'll go for that :) On 9/10/07, Markus Hennecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > nicodache schrieb: > > On 9/10/07, Stuart Henderson <[EMAIL

Re: upgrading ports from 4.1 to 4.2

2007-09-10 Thread Markus Hennecke
nicodache schrieb: ok. so you all advice me to install 4.2 with xbase. and with that, I can install packages/ports with no_x11, and things that needs X parts will work correctly ? I'll go for that :) You can install no_x11 packages without xbase AFAIR. But you can't build them from ports. G

Re: help needed with laptop hdd

2007-09-10 Thread Maurice Janssen
On Monday, September 10, 2007 at 17:48:31 +0200, Henning Brauer wrote: >Hi, > >unfortunately the harddisk in my X40 died. And even worse, I just >learned that the disk in the X40 is kind of special. It is a 1.8" hard >disk that does NOT use the ZIF connector (these are somewhat common) >but the

[OT] password aging/expiry

2007-09-10 Thread jul
i want to make a little survey to see how many people use password aging and if yes, how long ? why ? (of course, depending on sensitivity of your box) a few +/- (+) * "As passwords age, the probability that they are compromised grows." => but how much age ? 1 month ? 1 year ? * if compro

Re: Show your appreciation and get your 4.2 DVD

2007-09-10 Thread Dag Richards
Theo de Raadt wrote: Theo de Raadt wrote: Decreasing CD sales means the margins have to be adjusted. More of you are relying on our FTP services, and also donating less. Hey Theo just a quick suggestion to increase the cash donations: Why aren't the web-order-cash-donations (no longer) add

Re: upgrading ports from 4.1 to 4.2

2007-09-10 Thread Markus Hennecke
nicodache schrieb: On 9/10/07, Stuart Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: building from ports without X is not supported (including those that don't need X to run). > > not supported as in "we don't care if you have problem with it", or > not supported as in "it will certainly end with a segfa

Re: help needed with laptop hdd

2007-09-10 Thread Adriaan
On 9/10/07, Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > unfortunately the harddisk in my X40 died. And even worse, I just > learned that the disk in the X40 is kind of special. It is a 1.8" hard > disk that does NOT use the ZIF connector (these are somewhat common) > but the same 44pin conn

Re: upgrading ports from 4.1 to 4.2

2007-09-10 Thread nicodache
not supported as in "we don't care if you have problem with it", or not supported as in "it will certainly end with a segfault" ? On 9/10/07, Stuart Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > building from ports without X is not supported (including those > that don't need X to run).

Re: Virtualisation

2007-09-10 Thread Adrian Fisher
I want to use it for a mixture of web-hosting, virtual servers, etc. but also for running a new online game. I want to ensure (as much as is possible) that a system fails for whatever reason the workload running on it is automatically redistributed across the remaining systems. A. On 10/09/2007,

help needed with laptop hdd

2007-09-10 Thread Henning Brauer
Hi, unfortunately the harddisk in my X40 died. And even worse, I just learned that the disk in the X40 is kind of special. It is a 1.8" hard disk that does NOT use the ZIF connector (these are somewhat common) but the same 44pin connector 2.5" disks use. 1.8" disks with that connector have onl

Re: Show your appreciation and get your 4.2 DVD

2007-09-10 Thread Theo de Raadt
> Theo de Raadt wrote: > > > Decreasing CD sales means the margins have to be adjusted. More of > > you are relying on our FTP services, and also donating less. > > > Hey Theo just a quick suggestion to increase the cash donations: > > Why aren't the web-order-cash-donations (no longer) added

Re: Virtualisation

2007-09-10 Thread Renaud Allard
Adrian Fisher wrote: > Hello there, > > Does OpenBSD support virtualisation where multiple computers operate as one > single virtual system rather than just one system running as multiple > virtual systems? I am thinking of buying a series of blade systems which I > want to run as one single syst

Re: Sendmail client multiple MX

2007-09-10 Thread Craig Skinner
Craig Skinner wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I'got a problem with sendmail on OpenBSD 4.1 It seems that the sendmail smtp client only try 2 mx for a domain with 4 mx with the same priority (e.g. aol.com) Forgot to say, AOL demands rDNS, so sendmail may be giving up when it gets x rejec

Re: Sendmail client multiple MX

2007-09-10 Thread Craig Skinner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I'got a problem with sendmail on OpenBSD 4.1 It seems that the sendmail smtp client only try 2 mx for a domain with 4 mx with the same priority (e.g. aol.com) ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;aol.com. IN MX ;; ANSWER SECTION: aol.com.

Sendmail client multiple MX

2007-09-10 Thread pcnicolas
Hi I'got a problem with sendmail on OpenBSD 4.1 It seems that the sendmail smtp client only try 2 mx for a domain with 4 mx with the same priority (e.g. aol.com) ; <<>> DiG 9.3.4 <<>> mx aol.com ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 60021

Re: /bin file called [

2007-09-10 Thread Didier Wiroth
Thank you all for the info! - - Didier Wiroth > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Paul de Weerd > Sent: 10 September 2007 13:12 > To: Didier Wiroth > Cc: misc@openbsd.org > Subject: Re: /bin file called [ > > On Mon, Sep 10, 200

Re: Ports changes web page is badly out of date

2007-09-10 Thread Edd Barrett
Hi, > > http://ports.openbsd.nu/ homepage would be a good start point I agree. I use this page a lot and it's quite a nice interface. -- Best Regards Edd --- http://students.dec.bournemouth.ac.uk/ebarrett

Re: Virtualisation

2007-09-10 Thread Jason Dixon
On Sep 10, 2007, at 8:01 AM, Adrian Fisher wrote: Hello there, Does OpenBSD support virtualisation where multiple computers operate as one single virtual system rather than just one system running as multiple virtual systems? I am thinking of buying a series of blade systems which I want

Re: Ports changes web page is badly out of date

2007-09-10 Thread Janne Johansson
Landry Breuil wrote: http://www.openbsd.org/portsplus/index.html which is referenced by http://www.openbsd.org/plus42.html yeah, perhaps someone feels like start keeping portsplus up to date from now on? please contact me if so. http://ports.openbsd.nu/ homepage would be a good start point to

Virtualisation

2007-09-10 Thread Adrian Fisher
Hello there, Does OpenBSD support virtualisation where multiple computers operate as one single virtual system rather than just one system running as multiple virtual systems? I am thinking of buying a series of blade systems which I want to run as one single system to offer redundancy for increa

Re: upgrading ports from 4.1 to 4.2

2007-09-10 Thread Edd Barrett
On 10/09/2007, nicodache <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > package are nice, but hwo do they handle flavor ? > because I installed a system without X, and each time in try to > install (by ports) a new software, it tries to compile it using X, and > thus fails. > are package compiled using standard choi

Re: upgrading ports from 4.1 to 4.2

2007-09-10 Thread nicodache
package are nice, but hwo do they handle flavor ? because I installed a system without X, and each time in try to install (by ports) a new software, it tries to compile it using X, and thus fails. are package compiled using standard choice, thus using X I don't have ? or are package built in a more

Re: /bin file called [

2007-09-10 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 11:44:24AM +0200, Didier Wiroth wrote: > Hello, > When I do my own release I noticed that a file called [ is created in the > /bin directory: [...] > This file is not present in the official base4x.tgz file (from ftp or cd) I'm afraid you're not paying enough attention

/bin file called [

2007-09-10 Thread Didier Wiroth
Hello, When I do my own release I noticed that a file called [ is created in the /bin directory: Here is an "ls -la" of /bin, see the first file: $ ll /bin/ total 16080 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 1.0K May 18 16:33 . drwxr-xr-x 14 root wheel 512B May 18 17:00 .. -r-xr-xr-x 2 root bin89

Re: /bin file called [

2007-09-10 Thread Paul de Weerd
On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 11:44:24AM +0200, Didier Wiroth wrote: | Hello, | When I do my own release I noticed that a file called [ is created in the /bin directory: | Here is an "ls -la" of /bin, see the first file: | $ ll /bin/ | total 16080 | -r-xr-xr-x 2 root bin89.8K May 18 16:33 [ | -r-x

Re: /bin file called [

2007-09-10 Thread Craig Skinner
Didier Wiroth wrote: Hello, When I do my own release I noticed that a file called [ is created in the /bin directory: > -r-xr-xr-x 2 root bin89.8K May 18 16:33 [ -r-xr-xr-x 2 root bin89.8K May 18 16:33 test Hard link to /bin/test, see test(1) $ ls -l /bin/[ -r-xr-xr-x 2 root

Re: upgrading ports from 4.1 to 4.2

2007-09-10 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2007/09/10 12:48, nicodache wrote: > package are nice, but hwo do they handle flavor ? for some applications, packages are built with various (at least the more popular) FLAVORs. for others, you need to build the packages from ports yourself. > because I installed a system without X, and each

Re: /bin file called [

2007-09-10 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
On Monday 10 September 2007 11:44:24 Didier Wiroth wrote: > Hello, > When I do my own release I noticed that a file called [ is created in the > /bin directory: Here is an "ls -la" of /bin, see the first file: > $ ll /bin/ > total 16080 > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 1.0K May 18 16:33 . > drwxr-xr-

Re: /bin file called [

2007-09-10 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2007/09/10 11:44, Didier Wiroth wrote: > When I do my own release I noticed that a file called [ is created in the > /bin directory: > This file is not present in the official base4x.tgz file (from ftp or cd) it's there, it's just a little difficult to escape correctly. $ tar tzf /data/f

scanner??

2007-09-10 Thread Vim Visual
Hi, Yet almost an amateur, I have totally moved to OpenBSD, I have preordered my CDs, I bought them in the last release, tshirt/s too and I am a missionary of the Unique Truth and try to convert all salvages around me to it. Now, I am looking forward to buying a scanner. I don't want a scanner, p

Re: Show your appreciation and get your 4.2 DVD

2007-09-10 Thread Joris Van Herzele
Theo de Raadt wrote: Decreasing CD sales means the margins have to be adjusted. More of you are relying on our FTP services, and also donating less. Hey Theo just a quick suggestion to increase the cash donations: Why aren't the web-order-cash-donations (no longer) added to the donations.h

Re: scanner??

2007-09-10 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
On Monday 10 September 2007 12:08:48 Vim Visual wrote: > ... and I wonder whether any of you has a recommendation for me. Epson are usually very well supported. See: http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl -- Antoine

Re: scanner??

2007-09-10 Thread Vim Visual
I forgot to mention... ahem... I want to use it with OpenBSD, of course... (just in case of) Pau 2007/9/10, Vim Visual <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > > Yet almost an amateur, I have totally moved to OpenBSD, I have > preordered my CDs, I bought them in the last release, tshirt/s too and > I am a m

problem with ipsec tunnel between pix and openbsd

2007-09-10 Thread Sebastian Reitenbach
Hi, I setup a tunnel between a pix and an openbsd isakmpd to connect two networks behind each tunnel endpoint. pinging through the tunnel from both sides works, for the first 15 minutes. then the ping stops working. When I recreate the tunnel, then the ping starts to work again. I start isakmpd

Re: upgrading ports from 4.1 to 4.2

2007-09-10 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2007/09/10 16:13, Chris wrote: > - also is there any way to distinguish applications I installed from the > package list and applications I installed from the ports tree? No; ports just create packages. If you 'make install' this checks /usr/ports/packages/whatever/foo.tgz is up-to-date and b

Re: upgrading ports from 4.1 to 4.2

2007-09-10 Thread Edd Barrett
On 10/09/2007, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - go to /usr/ports/path/to/application to update each application - do I need > to do this for each individual application I installed from the ports > tree? Is there any > automated way of doing this? Read about -u for pkg_add (man pkg_add). When