Re: RAID1 drive replacement help?

2009-09-17 Thread Paul M
On 17/09/2009, at 4:27 PM, Jeffrey C. Smith wrote: Paul M wrote: On 16/09/2009, at 10:46 AM, Jeffrey C. Smith wrote: I am trying to add a new drive to replace a failed drive on my RAID1 OpenBSD system. I have read the available documentation but can't get the drive added permanently. Here's

Re: Defending OpenBSD Performance

2009-09-17 Thread Artur Grabowski
- Tethys tet...@gmail.com writes: And that attitude is why OpenBSD will never be more than a hobby OS. Sigh. Yes? So? Not everyone has to have an ambition to take over the world. The developers do it as a hobby, for fun. Which ties into the OP. The answer to his question is why?. //art

Re: Defending OpenBSD Performance

2009-09-17 Thread Theo de Raadt
And that attitude is why OpenBSD will never be more than a hobby OS. Sigh. Yes? So? Not everyone has to have an ambition to take over the world. The developers do it as a hobby, for fun. Which ties into the OP. The answer to his question is why?. No kidding. All I ever wanted was a hobby. If

Re: [pf question] Positive condition for adding in the table?

2009-09-17 Thread Ivan Radovanovic
Iqigo Ortiz de Urbina napisa: You could also take a look at the match, tag and tagged keywords in pf.conf. Additionally, you may require parsing your custom logs (pflogN interfaces or binary logs in /var/log/) in order to populate your tables for use in the main ruleset or anchors. Have a nice

Re: Defending OpenBSD Performance

2009-09-17 Thread Cian Brennan
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 04:14:46PM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 08:59:35PM +0100, Cian Brennan wrote: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:24:44PM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 05:47:08PM +0100, - Tethys wrote: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 5:37 PM,

Re: Defending OpenBSD Performance

2009-09-17 Thread Theo de Raadt
Generally, the computer industry is about providing services to end users. Wow I'm glad that I'm not part of that industry!

Re: Defending OpenBSD Performance

2009-09-17 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 02:44:23AM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: Generally, the computer industry is about providing services to end users. Wow I'm glad that I'm not part of that industry! Nah, our end-users are just different beasts. They walk upright. -Otto

Re: OT: Laptop advice. SSD costs.

2009-09-17 Thread Edd Barrett
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Amarendra Godbole amarendra.godb...@gmail.com wrote: Be careful with X60, since it has *known* heating issues for the wireless (intel one) Heh, well here I am typing on an x60 running windows. I will be replacing the wireless card with a ral anyways, so let's

Re: OT: Laptop advice. SSD costs.

2009-09-17 Thread Henning Brauer
* Aaron Mason simplersolut...@gmail.com [2009-09-17 03:52]: Would these drives by any chance be similar to the 1.8 ZIF drives used in (*shudder*) 5th gen iPods? I have one from my iPod that died a horrible death and it still runs fine. The drive's a 30 gigabyte Toshiba drive, and after the

Re: [pf question] Positive condition for adding in the table?

2009-09-17 Thread Gregory Edigarov
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 10:20:37 +0200 Ivan Radovanovic riv...@gmail.com wrote: Iqigo Ortiz de Urbina napisa: You could also take a look at the match, tag and tagged keywords in pf.conf. Additionally, you may require parsing your custom logs (pflogN interfaces or binary logs in /var/log/)

Re: Defending OpenBSD Performance

2009-09-17 Thread Stephan A. Rickauer
On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 20:59 +0100, Cian Brennan wrote: OpenBSD's a wonderful OS, but it's lack of easy upgradability is a *disadvantage, not something to be proud of. And yes, there are good Our Institute moved away from Linux servers always everwhere, just *because* of updates are unreliable.

Ipsec vpn and nat

2009-09-17 Thread openbsd
Hello, we have to connect factory using ipsec vpn and nat. The factory server (windows 2003) will send his backup to our NAS using FTP,so : Site A and Site B (factory) Site A , OpenBSD 4.5 -RELEASE, used like firewall (and ftpproxy) Ip address (provided by IAP): 11.11.11.11(Egress), IP :

burning cd

2009-09-17 Thread igor denisov
Hello there, when i issue #cdrecord -scanbus I get cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open SCSI driver. dmesg | grep 'cd' cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: Optiarc, DVD RW AD-7540A, 1.01 ATAPI 5/cdrom removable cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2 may somebody to tell

Re: burning cd

2009-09-17 Thread neal hogan
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 03:40:19PM +0400, igor denisov wrote: Hello there, when i issue #cdrecord -scanbus I get cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open SCSI driver. dmesg | grep 'cd' cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: Optiarc, DVD RW AD-7540A, 1.01 ATAPI 5/cdrom removable

Re: burning cd

2009-09-17 Thread Jona Joachim
On 2009-09-17, igor denisov denisovigor1...@rambler.ru wrote: Hello there, when i issue #cdrecord -scanbus I get cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open SCSI driver. dmesg | grep 'cd' cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: Optiarc, DVD RW AD-7540A, 1.01 ATAPI 5/cdrom removable

Re: Defending OpenBSD Performance

2009-09-17 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 11:43:07AM +0200, Stephan A. Rickauer said that Our Institute moved away from Linux servers always everwhere, just *because* of updates are unreliable. Very often we did an apt-get update or an yum bla, reboot, machine dead or fucked up otherwise. everyone is

Re: OT: Juniper SSL-VPN?

2009-09-17 Thread Kenneth R Westerback
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 04:17:44PM +0300, Lars Nooden wrote: Diana Eichert wrote: Since I contributed to an Off Topic thread to become even more off topic I'll continue. I don't know about you but I work for my employer, they don't work for me. They have an obligation to see that

Re: Defending OpenBSD Performance

2009-09-17 Thread Kenneth R Westerback
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:24:44PM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 05:47:08PM +0100, - Tethys wrote: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de wrote: Sounds like building from source is necessary to me. boo hoo. run one machine

Re: smtpd update

2009-09-17 Thread Michael
Hi, smtpd has recently benefited from many changes to the local and remote delivery code paths. Their aim is to advance smtpd few steps further to being well suited for production use. I have been working on this for a number of weeks, and to put it bluntly - the changes are massive. So,

Re: Defending OpenBSD Performance

2009-09-17 Thread Marco Peereboom
You have an odd definition of professional, and the kind of attitude that sounds like you haven't actually worked in the computer industry in a while. Generally, the computer industry is about providing services to end users. And things like easy updates, specialisation of

Re: Defending OpenBSD Performance

2009-09-17 Thread Kenneth R Westerback
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 08:59:35PM +0100, Cian Brennan wrote: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:24:44PM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 05:47:08PM +0100, - Tethys wrote: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de wrote: Sounds like

Re: Defending OpenBSD Performance

2009-09-17 Thread Christiano Farina Haesbaert
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 08:59:35PM +0100, Cian Brennan wrote: You have an odd definition of professional, and the kind of attitude that sounds like you haven't actually worked in the computer industry in a while. Generally, the computer industry is about providing services to end users. And

Re: Defending OpenBSD Performance

2009-09-17 Thread Christiano Farina Haesbaert
Ignore my double posting, my mistake. -- Christiano Farina HAESBAERT Do NOT send me html mail.

Re: Defending OpenBSD Performance

2009-09-17 Thread Janne Johansson
Christiano Farina Haesbaert wrote: Ignore my double posting, my mistake. Dont worry, it adds value to the intarwebs.

Re: OT: Laptop advice. SSD costs.

2009-09-17 Thread Robert
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 11:16:58 +0200 Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de wrote: * Aaron Mason simplersolut...@gmail.com [2009-09-17 03:52]: Would these drives by any chance be similar to the 1.8 ZIF drives used in (*shudder*) 5th gen iPods? I have one from my iPod that died a horrible

Re: OT: Laptop advice. SSD costs.

2009-09-17 Thread Ted Unangst
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Robert rob...@openbsd.pap.st wrote: There are adapters on ebay for connecting 1,8 ZIF dirves to 44-pin IDE. But I'd guess that the adapter and the drive won't fit the bay of the x40. If the amount of effort spent trying to get hard drives for x40 was spent

Re: OT: Laptop advice. SSD costs.

2009-09-17 Thread Henning Brauer
* Robert rob...@openbsd.pap.st [2009-09-17 16:34]: On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 11:16:58 +0200 Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de wrote: * Aaron Mason simplersolut...@gmail.com [2009-09-17 03:52]: Would these drives by any chance be similar to the 1.8 ZIF drives used in (*shudder*) 5th gen

Re: OT: Laptop advice. SSD costs.

2009-09-17 Thread Peter Kay - Syllopsium
From: Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de * Robert rob...@openbsd.pap.st [2009-09-17 16:34]: On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 11:16:58 +0200 Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de wrote: * Aaron Mason simplersolut...@gmail.com [2009-09-17 03:52]: Would these drives by any chance be similar to the 1.8 ZIF

OT: Old School Unix vs. Modern Day Support Professionals - was (Defending OpenBSD Performance)

2009-09-17 Thread Brian Shackelford
Correction, a professional OS that requires its users to be professionals. Not a bunch of whining windows update people that have to call IT to launch excel. In case you hadn't noticed we are old school UNIX users that don't mind fixing whatever problem is at hand. Including

Re: OT: Old School Unix vs. Modern Day Support Professionals - was (Defending OpenBSD Performance)

2009-09-17 Thread Bob Beck
That is my $1.87 worth - flame me - stone me - whatever if you must - but again it is just one man's opinion. Don't be sorry, that's one of the better and more literate rants I've seen on misc@ in a while.

Re: smtp-vilter is cranky

2009-09-17 Thread Chris
Quoting Vijay Sankar vsan...@foretell.ca: Chris wrote: Quoting Vijay Sankar vsan...@foretell.ca: Chris wrote: Hi, I have been playing with this for hours now, and I'm getting really frustrated. I'm building an email server, and I want to use smtp-vilter to send my emails through

Re: OT: Old School Unix vs. Modern Day Support Professionals - was (Defending OpenBSD Performance)

2009-09-17 Thread Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez
+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1 :-) Brian Shackelford escribis: Correction, a professional OS that requires its users to be professionals. Not a bunch of whining windows update people that have to call IT to launch excel. In case you hadn't noticed we are old school UNIX users that don't mind fixing

Re: smtp-vilter is cranky

2009-09-17 Thread Chris
Quoting Philip Guenther guent...@gmail.com: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Chris cjd...@brokensolstice.com wrote: I'm building an email server, and I want to use smtp-vilter to send my emails through spamassassin and clamav. I'm using obsd 4.5 and sendmail. I keep getting this in my logs:

Re: smtp-vilter is cranky

2009-09-17 Thread Chris
Okay! I got it. I guess it had to do with the chroot of smtp-vilter... I'm not sure why, because it doesn't do this on my 3.8 box... but on my 4.5 box, it is dropping its socket to /var/smtp-vilter/var/smtp-vilter/smtp-vilter.sock. So, the error I was getting in the log wasn't really

Re: OT: Old School Unix vs. Modern Day Support Professionals - was (Defending OpenBSD Performance)

2009-09-17 Thread Bernd Siggy Brentrup
Sorry Brian to sort of hijack this new thread; until late last night I had no time to follow the original one and you don't attribute your opponent. On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:27 -0400, Brian Shackelford wrote: Correction, a professional OS that requires its users to be professionals. Not

Re: OT: Laptop advice. SSD costs.

2009-09-17 Thread Bryan
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:57, Claudio Jeker cje...@diehard.n-r-g.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 05:21:17PM +0200, Henning Brauer wrote: * Robert rob...@openbsd.pap.st [2009-09-17 16:34]: On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 11:16:58 +0200 Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de wrote: * Aaron Mason

Re: OT: Laptop advice. SSD costs.

2009-09-17 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 05:21:17PM +0200, Henning Brauer wrote: * Robert rob...@openbsd.pap.st [2009-09-17 16:34]: On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 11:16:58 +0200 Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de wrote: * Aaron Mason simplersolut...@gmail.com [2009-09-17 03:52]: Would these drives by any

Re: OT: Laptop advice. SSD costs.

2009-09-17 Thread Robert
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 11:13:51 -0700 Bryan bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:57, Claudio Jeker cje...@diehard.n-r-g.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 05:21:17PM +0200, Henning Brauer wrote: * Robert rob...@openbsd.pap.st [2009-09-17 16:34]: On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 11:16:58

OpenBSD on first gen Asus eeePCs

2009-09-17 Thread Brad Tilley
Hey Misc, I'm running -current on a first gen Asus eeePC (701 series). It has the small 4GB drive, so I use an additional 4GB USB flash drive mounted as /usr in order to have room to do stuff. Works OK, just wondering if anyone else runs OpenBSD like this on these laptops. The new disk setup

Re: Defending OpenBSD Performance

2009-09-17 Thread 4625
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 11:55:57PM +, Jacob Meuser wrote: I think your problem can be traced to the different default voices. I've test timidity with a different sound fonts and with the same config, like I have one in FreeBSD, on the same PC. I wonder if FreeBSD's

Re: OpenBSD on first gen Asus eeePCs

2009-09-17 Thread Robert
Hi, I'm using a MSI Wind U100, and so far I'm happy with it. Everything works (wireless, bluetooth etc.), except for the built-in webcam (or maybe that's just me... any hints are welcome). The Aspire One has an Atheros wireless cards; afaik there were problems with this driver - I don't know

Re: OpenBSD on first gen Asus eeePCs

2009-09-17 Thread graeme
Yup I like them. - WiFi is same as eeePC (Atheros 5424) so I swpped it out with an Intel wpi - JMicron mukti card reader not supported - Intel drm :) - bsd.mp (Intel Atom supports hyper threading) - built-in camera appears to work but I've never used it. OpenBSD 4.5 (GENERIC.MP) #108: Sat Feb 28

Re: Defending OpenBSD Performance

2009-09-17 Thread Fred Crowson
On 9/15/09, 4625 4625...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 13:39:46 -0400 Tom Smith wrote: But, I'd like to have hard technicaly data to demonstrate that while Linux and FreeBSD may scale to a gazillion CPUs and PetaBytes of Memory that OpenBSD makes a fine firewall or desktop or mail

Re: Defending OpenBSD Performance

2009-09-17 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 01:35:58PM -0700, 4625 wrote: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 11:55:57PM +, Jacob Meuser wrote: I think your problem can be traced to the different default voices. I've test timidity with a different sound fonts and with the same config, like I have one in

Re: OpenBSD on first gen Asus eeePCs

2009-09-17 Thread Nick Holland
graeme wrote: Yup I like them. - WiFi is same as eeePC (Atheros 5424) so I swpped it out with an Intel wpi - JMicron mukti card reader not supported actually, I think we (for a they sort of we) figured out the issue was ACPI related, the power to the thing is turned off by the BIOS if there

Re: OpenBSD on first gen Asus eeePCs

2009-09-17 Thread Robert
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 19:08:32 -0400 Nick Holland n...@holland-consulting.net wrote: Anyway, I've got one of the first generation Acer Aspire One machines, bought it the day the six-cell battery version became available at my local store, had it for almost a year now. I love it. Yes, I paid

OT: Iphone with OpenBSD

2009-09-17 Thread Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez
Totally offtopic: Reading the article posted on undeadly.org: http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1393496 I was thinking it would be cool to have an Iphone running OpenBSD... Imagine that: the most secure phone in the planet :-P Regards, Alvaro

Re: Defending OpenBSD Performance

2009-09-17 Thread 4625
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:36:08PM +0100, Fred Crowson wrote: But, I'd like to have hard technicaly data to demonstrate that while Linux and FreeBSD may scale to a gazillion CPUs and PetaBytes of Memory that OpenBSD makes a fine firewall or desktop or mail server, etc and point out that

Re: Defending OpenBSD Performance

2009-09-17 Thread 4625
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:08:55PM +, Jacob Meuser wrote: I think your problem can be traced to the different default voices. I've test timidity with a different sound fonts and with the same config, like I have one in FreeBSD, on the same PC. I wonder if

Re: Broadcom BCM5716 support in 4.6/snapshots

2009-09-17 Thread John Brahy
Sorry for the delay. Her'es the dmesg On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 6:42 PM, David Gwynne l...@animata.net wrote: which dells specifically? are you able to get a dmesg off it? dlg On 14/09/2009, at 6:47 AM, John Brahy wrote: Hi, I bought a couple new dells with Broadcom BCM5716 chips on

Re: Broadcom BCM5716 support in 4.6/snapshots

2009-09-17 Thread John Brahy
Sorry, I know I shouldn't send attachments. OpenBSD 4.6-current (RAMDISK_CD) #147: Sat Sep 12 22:03:55 MDT 2009 t...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/RAMDISK_CD cpu0: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5504 @ 2.00GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 2 GHz cpu0:

Re: OT: Old School Unix vs. Modern Day Support Professionals - was (Defending OpenBSD Performance)

2009-09-17 Thread Aaron Mason
First, thank you for a very enlightening rant - the best I've seen since I joined the list. *reaches for toilet paper to blow nose* On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 2:27 AM, Brian Shackelford bshackelf...@dns-net.com wrote: [snip] You know it is interesting - having been in this industry for over 16

Re: OpenBSD on first gen Asus eeePCs

2009-09-17 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 04:20:09PM -0400, Brad Tilley said that drives so I lay them out manually, but other than that, everything works OK (except the built-in wireless). I'm considering an Acer does the built in usb emulated sd card reader works? i can read anything from it, but writing

Re: OpenBSD on first gen Asus eeePCs

2009-09-17 Thread Brad Tilley
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 8:58 PM, frantisek holop min...@obiit.org wrote: does the built in usb emulated sd card reader works? i can read anything from it, but writing anything big ( 100MB) freezes first the process doing the writing, then the io subsystem, and eventually the whole system.

Re: 4.6 postponed to Nov 1

2009-09-17 Thread neal hogan
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 05:41:12PM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: The 4.6 release will be postponed to Nov 1. There have had serious CD production problems. Because everything in CD manufacturing is so ridiculously outsourced, all I know is that the plant which was used this time (Q Media

Re: Defending OpenBSD Performance

2009-09-17 Thread Paul M
On 18/09/2009, at 11:59 AM, 4625 wrote: I like fluidsynth. Well, I got it. Could you explain me how do you ran it? Are you serious? the way the manual says to. What make you think that I did not saw the manual? You should probably stop posting about now, you're starting to make

Re: RAID1 drive replacement help?

2009-09-17 Thread Jeffrey C. Smith
Paul M wrote: According to the man page (if my memory is correct), the name component1 is a placeholder used by raidctl when it is unable to access the drive - in other words this component is bad. Remove the drive completely and it will still list it as component1. So component1 is not the

high load cpu with trunk+vlan+carp

2009-09-17 Thread Luiz Gustavo S. Costa
Hi guys ! I have one installation of OpenBSD 4.5 with this configuration (network): (em0 and em1) trunk0 vlan[10,30,40,63,65] carp[10,30,40,63,65] Ok, this configuration is running perfect ! But, With traffic on the scenario the cpu is go for down i have one pentium 4 with 2 core, 1

Re: RAID1 drive replacement help?

2009-09-17 Thread Paul M
On 18/09/2009, at 2:28 PM, Jeffrey C. Smith wrote: Now, I try to reconstruct /dev/wd1d (the failed drive): # raidctl -v -R /dev/wd1d raid0 raidctl: /dev/wd1d is not a component of this device Still no luck. Any more ideas??? Thanks, Jeff Has your raid0.conf file changed? The one you posted

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Re: RAID1 drive replacement help?

2009-09-17 Thread Jeffrey C. Smith
Paul M wrote: On 18/09/2009, at 2:28 PM, Jeffrey C. Smith wrote: Now, I try to reconstruct /dev/wd1d (the failed drive): # raidctl -v -R /dev/wd1d raid0 raidctl: /dev/wd1d is not a component of this device Still no luck. Any more ideas??? Thanks, Jeff Has your raid0.conf file changed?

Re: 4.6 postponed to Nov 1

2009-09-17 Thread Nate Schmoll
Can anyone point me in the direction of getting the release ISO for those of us that have ordered CDs? Thanks to all of the obsd ninjas...you guys are awesome. I'm pushing at our next blood cycle for a $10k contribution. We'll find out at the end of the month. Thanks to Theo and

Re: 4.6 postponed to Nov 1

2009-09-17 Thread Theo de Raadt
Can anyone point me in the direction of getting the release ISO for those of us that have ordered CDs? If you have ordered one, it will arrive just before Nov 1. Until then, sorry, nope Thanks to all of the obsd ninjas...you guys are awesome. I'm pushing at our next blood cycle for a

Re: OT: Iphone with OpenBSD

2009-09-17 Thread beowuff
Reading the article posted on undeadly.org: http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1393496 I was thinking it would be cool to have an Iphone running OpenBSD... Imagine that: the most secure phone in the planet :-P Man, I have an old 1st gen iPhone just sitting there... I would so