Questions about OpenBSD and IRC
Hello, I started getting active with OpenBSD again. I remember some years there was an IRC channel for openbsd, I think it was on freenode. I just installed hexchat and there is no freenode option anymore, is there still an openbsd irc channel somewhere? Thanks. *Michael G. Workman* (321) 432-9295 michael.g.work...@gmail.com
Re: Dell Latitude e6400 OpenBSD Drive Issue
Ok, thanks for the info. *Michael G. Workman* (321) 432-9295 michael.g.work...@gmail.com On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 4:47 PM Adam Thompson wrote: > On 2020-02-09 06:58, Michael G Workman wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Shout out to the OpenBSD developers for making a great OS! > > > > I was able to install OpenBSD 6.6 on a Dell Latitude e6400 laptop, with > > a > > USB Install. Sent the dmesg in already. > > > > The installer would not recognize the hard drive, a brand new SSD > > drive. > > The solution to that, from stack exchange, was to change the SATA > > settings > > in BIOS from IRRTL to AHCI, that fixed the problem. > > > > However if my laptop is powered off for a while, the SATA setting > > changes > > back to IRRTL instead of AHCI, very annoying, not sure why the BIOS > > would > > not make my changes persistent. I think it may be a hardware issue, but > > just wanted to know if anyone else has encountered this before? > > > > Thanks. > > > > *Michael G. Workman* > > (321) 432-9295 > > michael.g.work...@gmail.com > > I have run several laptops from that series with OpenBSD. The other > replies are correct, your BIOS battery is dead. Unfortunately, on many > of the Latitudes, the BIOS battery is of the variety that's embedded in > the RTC chip, and is not separately replaceable. > Some, however, including - the 6430 for example - have a regular coin > cell, albeit wrapped in a proprietary cover with a non-standard > connector, but at least is *is* replaceable without insane amounts of > work. > I have the owner's manuals for many of the 6400 series, email me > directly if you can't find the guide to replacing parts for your > particular model. > -Adam >
Dell Latitude e6400 OpenBSD Drive Issue
Hello, Shout out to the OpenBSD developers for making a great OS! I was able to install OpenBSD 6.6 on a Dell Latitude e6400 laptop, with a USB Install. Sent the dmesg in already. The installer would not recognize the hard drive, a brand new SSD drive. The solution to that, from stack exchange, was to change the SATA settings in BIOS from IRRTL to AHCI, that fixed the problem. However if my laptop is powered off for a while, the SATA setting changes back to IRRTL instead of AHCI, very annoying, not sure why the BIOS would not make my changes persistent. I think it may be a hardware issue, but just wanted to know if anyone else has encountered this before? Thanks. *Michael G. Workman* (321) 432-9295 michael.g.work...@gmail.com
Open BSD 6.6 Gnome 3.3
Shout out to Theo DeRaadt and the OpenBSD Developers for making a great operating system. I have OpenBSD 6.6 Current with Gnome 3.3 running on a Dell Vostro Laptop with an SSD drive, and it runs great. However, every time I run Chromium web browser, I get prompted UNLOCK using a password. Very annoying, I did not find much on a Google or Bing search on how to get rid of the password prompt. I found one blog entry saying to use seahorse to delete the passwords, I installed seahorse, deleted the passwords, but every time I restart chromium, chromium readds the passwords. Does anyone know a solution to this? this never occurred when using FVWM window manager on the same laptop, so suspect it is Gnome that is causing this. Thanks. *Michael G. Workman* (321) 432-9295 michael.g.work...@gmail.com
Re: Issues with X and Gnome on OpenBSD new install
Ok the solution here with this gnome problem, waas to upgrade from _stable to _current. sysupgrade -s did the trick, now gnome runs perfectly. *Michael G. Workman* (321) 432-9295 michael.g.work...@gmail.com On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 6:05 PM Michael G Workman < michael.g.work...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > OpenBSD is a great operating system, glad to have been to installed it > successfully. > > I installed OpenBSD on a Dell Vostro 1500 laptop with dual core 2ghz intel > processor, 2 GB of RAM, and 120 GB hard drive (circa 2008 laptop) > > I had problems with firefox, but installed Chromium instead and Chrome > works great for web browsing. > > I also installed bash and nano, and also installed Gnome. Hoping to use > Gnome instead of the default window manager. > > But encountered a fatal error, the X server could not be found, and also a > driver called xf86OpenConsole was missing, causing a fatal server error. > > When I installed it, I chose openbsd-dell for the hostname, and then > OpenBSD tacked on attlocal.net to it to make it openbsd-dell.attlocal.net, > but not sure how that happened, an nslookup on attlocal.net says it is an > invalid domain. > > I am sure it must be a simple fix, here is my Xorg.1.log file: > > Thanks. > > [ 6760.324] > X.Org X Server 1.20.5 > X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 > [ 6760.324] Build Operating System: OpenBSD 6.6 amd64 > [ 6760.324] Current Operating System: OpenBSD openbsd-dell.attlocal.net > 6.6 GENERIC.MP#372 amd64 > [ 6760.324] Build Date: 12 October 2019 11:22:22AM > [ 6760.324] > [ 6760.325] Current version of pixman: 0.38.4 > [ 6760.325] Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org > to make sure that you have the latest version. > [ 6760.325] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default > setting, > (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, > (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. > [ 6760.325] (==) Log file: > "/home/mworkman72/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.1.log", Time: Tue Jan 7 15:01:09 > 2020 > [ 6760.341] (==) Using system config directory > "/usr/X11R6/share/X11/xorg.conf.d" > [ 6760.351] (==) No Layout section. Using the first Screen section. > [ 6760.351] (==) No screen section available. Using defaults. > [ 6760.351] (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen Section" (0) > [ 6760.351] (**) | |-->Monitor "" > [ 6760.352] (==) No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section". > Using a default monitor configuration. > [ 6760.352] (==) Automatically adding devices > [ 6760.352] (==) Automatically enabling devices > [ 6760.352] (==) Not automatically adding GPU devices > [ 6760.352] (==) Max clients allowed: 256, resource mask: 0x1f > [ 6760.401] (==) FontPath set to: > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/, > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/OTF/, > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ > [ 6760.401] (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" > [ 6760.401] (II) The server relies on wscons to provide the list of input > devices. > If no devices become available, reconfigure wscons or disable > AutoAddDevices. > [ 6760.401] (II) Loader magic: 0xef025473000 > [ 6760.402] (II) Module ABI versions: > [ 6760.402] X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 > [ 6760.402] X.Org Video Driver: 24.0 > [ 6760.402] X.Org XInput driver : 24.1 > [ 6760.404] X.Org Server Extension : 10.0 > [ 6760.404] (EE) > Fatal server error: > [ 6760.404] (EE) xf86OpenConsole: No console driver found > Supported drivers: wscons > Check your kernel's console driver configuration and /dev entries(EE) > [ 6760.404] (EE) > Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support > at http://wiki.x.org > for help. > [ 6760.404] (EE) Please also check the log file at > "/home/mworkman72/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.1.log" for additional information. > [ 6760.405] (EE) > [ 6760.406] (EE) Server terminated with error (1). Closing log file. > > *Michael G. Workman* > (321) 432-9295 > michael.g.work...@gmail.com > >
Re: Question about marketability of OpenBSD Laptops
Thank you sir for your reply, it is duly noted. :-) *Michael G. Workman* (321) 432-9295 michael.g.work...@gmail.com On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 7:26 PM Chris Bennett < cpb_m...@bennettconstruction.us> wrote: > On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 05:49:04PM -0500, Michael G Workman wrote: > > I have read many stories about small business owners waking up one day > and > > their bank accounts are empty, due to banking malware like Zeus, others > are > > victimized by ransomware and have to pay a fee to get their files back. > > > > It seems like most of the victims were using windows computers when these > > attacks happened, as far as I know Zeus only works on Microsoft Windows, > > not Unix or Linux. > > > > I was thinking of offering some refurbished older Dell Laptops for sale > > with OpenBSD installed, to use specifically with online banking, $149 for > > Dell Vostro 1500 with 120 GB SSD and 2 GB RAM, and $249 for Dell Latitude > > e6400 with 240 GB SSD, and 8 GB of RAM, and for a an extra fee, make 240 > GB > > and 480 GB or 1 TB or 2 TB SSD an upgrade option for them. Since they are > > laptops, they can easily be moved around and are portable and people can > > even travel with them and use them while traveling for their banking > > transactions. > > > > I was not able to get wifi to work on the Dell Vostro, but that is ok, > > since wifi can be an attack vector, I think they will be more secure with > > only a hardwire Lan connection. > > > > While it is true that some small business owners have some good IT skills > > and could install OpenBSD themselves, I am thinking of it as a product > for > > the small business owner who has minimal IT skills. > > > > Someone, most likely an open source puirist, criticized this idea on IRC > > but I think it is actually a really good idea for the small business > owner > > with minimal IT skills. > > > > I just wanted to know everyone's opinion of this idea? and also would I > be > > able to advertise my contact information on the commercial section of > > OpenBSD.org for these specialty laptops? > > > > Thanks. > > > > *Michael G. Workman* > > (321) 432-9295 > > michael.g.work...@gmail.com > > First, there is no commercial section of OpenBSD to advertise on. > > As far as your seemingly brilliant idea, it won't work. > > Try this. Put OpenBSD on a USB stick. Then try to get ANYONE to boot it > on their laptop/desktop. I gave up after about 25 tries over the years. > > Next, try this. Give away a few laptops with OpenBSD already installed > for free. Check back with these people 3 months later. You won't find a > single one with OpenBSD still installed unless they just stuffed it in a > closet. > > Nobody wants to do what is necessary for security. It's just "too hard". > We will continue to see security breaches ad infinutum. > That's just the way it "Just doesn't works". > > When I was a kid and we had some new type of food that was really tasty. > I would offer a taste to my other friends who were kids too. > "I don't like that!" was always the response. They refused to even taste > it. > I would say, but you've never ever even tried this before! > "I don't care. I just don't like the way it tastes". > > That, sadly is the way the real world works. > It's nonsense. But that's just the way it is. > > Good luck, hopefully you can make it work. Please don't put any serious > money into it before trying my two above suggestions. > > -- > Chris Bennett > > >
Question about marketability of OpenBSD Laptops
I have read many stories about small business owners waking up one day and their bank accounts are empty, due to banking malware like Zeus, others are victimized by ransomware and have to pay a fee to get their files back. It seems like most of the victims were using windows computers when these attacks happened, as far as I know Zeus only works on Microsoft Windows, not Unix or Linux. I was thinking of offering some refurbished older Dell Laptops for sale with OpenBSD installed, to use specifically with online banking, $149 for Dell Vostro 1500 with 120 GB SSD and 2 GB RAM, and $249 for Dell Latitude e6400 with 240 GB SSD, and 8 GB of RAM, and for a an extra fee, make 240 GB and 480 GB or 1 TB or 2 TB SSD an upgrade option for them. Since they are laptops, they can easily be moved around and are portable and people can even travel with them and use them while traveling for their banking transactions. I was not able to get wifi to work on the Dell Vostro, but that is ok, since wifi can be an attack vector, I think they will be more secure with only a hardwire Lan connection. While it is true that some small business owners have some good IT skills and could install OpenBSD themselves, I am thinking of it as a product for the small business owner who has minimal IT skills. Someone, most likely an open source puirist, criticized this idea on IRC but I think it is actually a really good idea for the small business owner with minimal IT skills. I just wanted to know everyone's opinion of this idea? and also would I be able to advertise my contact information on the commercial section of OpenBSD.org for these specialty laptops? Thanks. *Michael G. Workman* (321) 432-9295 michael.g.work...@gmail.com
OpenBSD 6.6 Gnome Issue
I have several older Dell laptops and have been putting them to good use by installing Linux and BSD Unix. I wanted to learn OpenBSD Unix so I installed it on a Dell Vostro 1500 I have with 2Ghz Intel Dual Core Processor, 2GB RAM, and 120GB Hard drive. I already did a DMESG for it. The install was no problem at all, a USB install using the fs file, and the default FVWM window manager works perfectly, but I was hoping to use Gnome with OpenBSD, like I do with two other dell laptops. I have one with Fedora Linux, and another with Kali Linux. So I installed Gnome from the command line, as root using pkg_add, from the NYC OpenBSD Mirror. Gnome version 3.2 was installed, I also made sure to install all patches, before trying to install Gnome. And also installed gnome-extras. Then I disabled xenodm using rcctl command, and enabled multicast messagebus avahi_daemon gdm, also with the rcctl command at the command line, as root. Then I rebooted, Gnome appears to run, but anytime I open up an application, all I get is a black screen, like in the photo, it is Gnome initial setup that is blacked out, also terminals and text editors are the same, all black. I was just curious if anyone had experienced the same problems? I have a second Dell Vostro 1500 laptop with Fedora Linux, and gnome works perfectly, same exact hardware as the OpenBSD dell laptop, also I have Kali Linux on a Dell e6400 laptop, and Gnome runs perfectly on that laptop also. [image: Gnome_BlackSceenError_January17_2020.JPG] *Michael G. Workman* (321) 432-9295 michael.g.work...@gmail.com
Issues with X and Gnome on OpenBSD new install
Hello, OpenBSD is a great operating system, glad to have been to installed it successfully. I installed OpenBSD on a Dell Vostro 1500 laptop with dual core 2ghz intel processor, 2 GB of RAM, and 120 GB hard drive (circa 2008 laptop) I had problems with firefox, but installed Chromium instead and Chrome works great for web browsing. I also installed bash and nano, and also installed Gnome. Hoping to use Gnome instead of the default window manager. But encountered a fatal error, the X server could not be found, and also a driver called xf86OpenConsole was missing, causing a fatal server error. When I installed it, I chose openbsd-dell for the hostname, and then OpenBSD tacked on attlocal.net to it to make it openbsd-dell.attlocal.net, but not sure how that happened, an nslookup on attlocal.net says it is an invalid domain. I am sure it must be a simple fix, here is my Xorg.1.log file: Thanks. [ 6760.324] X.Org X Server 1.20.5 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 [ 6760.324] Build Operating System: OpenBSD 6.6 amd64 [ 6760.324] Current Operating System: OpenBSD openbsd-dell.attlocal.net 6.6 GENERIC.MP#372 amd64 [ 6760.324] Build Date: 12 October 2019 11:22:22AM [ 6760.324] [ 6760.325] Current version of pixman: 0.38.4 [ 6760.325] Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. [ 6760.325] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. [ 6760.325] (==) Log file: "/home/mworkman72/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.1.log", Time: Tue Jan 7 15:01:09 2020 [ 6760.341] (==) Using system config directory "/usr/X11R6/share/X11/xorg.conf.d" [ 6760.351] (==) No Layout section. Using the first Screen section. [ 6760.351] (==) No screen section available. Using defaults. [ 6760.351] (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen Section" (0) [ 6760.351] (**) | |-->Monitor "" [ 6760.352] (==) No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section". Using a default monitor configuration. [ 6760.352] (==) Automatically adding devices [ 6760.352] (==) Automatically enabling devices [ 6760.352] (==) Not automatically adding GPU devices [ 6760.352] (==) Max clients allowed: 256, resource mask: 0x1f [ 6760.401] (==) FontPath set to: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/OTF/, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ [ 6760.401] (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" [ 6760.401] (II) The server relies on wscons to provide the list of input devices. If no devices become available, reconfigure wscons or disable AutoAddDevices. [ 6760.401] (II) Loader magic: 0xef025473000 [ 6760.402] (II) Module ABI versions: [ 6760.402] X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 [ 6760.402] X.Org Video Driver: 24.0 [ 6760.402] X.Org XInput driver : 24.1 [ 6760.404] X.Org Server Extension : 10.0 [ 6760.404] (EE) Fatal server error: [ 6760.404] (EE) xf86OpenConsole: No console driver found Supported drivers: wscons Check your kernel's console driver configuration and /dev entries(EE) [ 6760.404] (EE) Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support at http://wiki.x.org for help. [ 6760.404] (EE) Please also check the log file at "/home/mworkman72/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.1.log" for additional information. [ 6760.405] (EE) [ 6760.406] (EE) Server terminated with error (1). Closing log file. *Michael G. Workman* (321) 432-9295 michael.g.work...@gmail.com
