I do not compile a qualitative list of bullshits, but this got a place
on some imaginary bullshit list for sure.
From: Katherine Mcmillan
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2024 12:30:03 PM
To: Harald Dunkel
Subject: Re: bad first impression
> That seems... unusual. Do you have an (old) IDE compatibility option turned
> on in
> the BIOS? I would have expected it to attach via AHCI:
> sd0 at scsibus1 targ 2 lun 0:
>I have a problem where files recently downloaded go missing ...
> I tried searching internet, nothing of answer came in view
Well, since we are at the fun section of @misc (explanation: there is
a message where user claim keyboard types by itself, mouse is moving
by itself, one user has missing
Just curious, what happens when you do:
# cat
Captain Warez, Sir,
This list has already its share of spam and i think it doesn't need
yours. Some of us are reading messages from web list archivers like
marc.info. I don't need your offtopic messages there and neither your
answers to your own messages. Find another list for this purpose.
:
>
> Hi Mihai,
>
> Mihai Popescu wrote on Thu, Dec 28, 2023 at 01:32:34AM +0200:
>
> > [ removed elaborate instruction about going html from almost txt with
> > man pages ]
> >
> > All this to jump in html boat? Or I got it wrong?
> > A
[ removed elaborate instruction about going html from almost txt with
man pages ]
All this to jump in html boat? Or I got it wrong?
Are old man pages deprecated?
> Why didn't you just bump the daemon datasize in /etc/login.conf to the
> required value?
Because The Creator said once this is there for a reason and if you
keep "bumping" it, maybe it should be removed.
Please post your dmesg. If you don't know what it is or how to get it
please search the internet.
Tell the list how the /home/media is mounted. Again , if you don;t
know how ... search the internet.
If you are using some configuration options inside a file for mpv
please list them here.
I don't
> The point of appimage is to work on any Linux distro.
But it is not working. Like many other ideas created to work on any distro ...
On Thu, Dec 07, 2023 at 03:39:33PM +, Lévai, Dániel wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> Recently my trusty T410 died (had iwn(4) in it) and had to switch to an E450
> - but \
> this has iwm(4). Never had any issues with iwn(4) and iwm(4) seems to operate
> \
> perfectly fine in some scenarios, e.g.
> Can I make the VGA output the default globaly?
I have some board from ASRock Industrial with VGA and LVDS outputs.
There is a BIOS settings for my model where I can choose what to
enable and what will be the primary. When I let both outputs enabled,
the BIOS messages appears only on the primary
> Another interesting thread.
Not at all. Hollywood's movies are providing much interesting ideas
about human trying to obtain immortality.
Also midnight psy therapy threads are not very interesting.
> I still have gsysupgrade lying around somewhere. It's a gtk app. I never
> made a port for it because I got sidetracked rewriting it to use qt.
> It isn't written in rust? The shame.
Make it Rust or GTK based, but please include the support for http, it
is more convenient to do it remotely
On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 7:09 PM Otto Moerbeek wrote:
>
> On Sun, Sep 17, 2023 at 09:17:58PM +0300, Mihai Popescu wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Is there any recent major change in base packages or pkg_add?
> > I ask because the pkg_add -vV is slower than usual at e
Hello,
Is there any recent major change in base packages or pkg_add?
I ask because the pkg_add -vV is slower than usual at each package,
most of the time spent in Extracting ... phase.
I use amd64 recent snapshot. I checked my disk and https downloads,
they are fine.
Thank you.
I got the system freeze from the previous email again.
I don't know what "debug" commands to run, please point me in the
right direction.
Thank you.
Not a Ryzen 9, but an AMD.
I installed the snapshot, and started playing endless-sky from
packages. Went away and we i came back, the game was not responsive
anymore. Switched to console with Alt+Ctrl+F2, logged in as an user
and used top command. endless-sky was listed as sleep / kqread. Logged
Gustavo Rios wrote:
> What is the best supported servers by OpenBSD ?
The older, the better!
Take the oldest machine that will suit your needs.
If it old enough, then someone:
o released some (in)complete documentation
o was pissed enough to start writing drivers and code for it
o noticed bugs
On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 11:30 AM Martin Schröder wrote:
> https://www.pcengines.ch/eol.htm
> The end is near for APUs :-(
It may be the end for open/free source as we know it.
The market is moving to ARM for hardware. As for the software, Linux
is preferred - a lot of code, a lot of
> I have a fairly good idea of what presentation or possibly even journal
> article you read and are > still taking as gospel truth. It was a side by
> side benchmarking thing, wasn't it?
The @misc has a lot of messages about single threaded subject. Even
some well know posters have said
i don't see why you had to hijack the thread and scare people away ...
for poor people's sake, not all of us are "kernel experts", "C
veterans", "admins" "sysops" or what else does exists in these days...
tired of this mess, i understand there are hard days but come on...
Hello,
Just a post for the users: since my computer refused to boot anymore
in UEFI mode after install from snapshots, but it was able to do it
from previous snapshots, i switched to Legacy BIOS and used it like
that. I tested with Debian in UEFI mode and it was fine. I asked on
the misc@, i
Hello,
I am trying to figure out a problem with my UEFI boot not working
anymore using snapshots. I am able to UEFI boot from USB install disk,
but at first boot from the main disk the sequence stops at efi0 entry.
Can someone, please, explain why efi0 is not detected on boot from the
USB
I was trying to install OpenBSD-current from snapshots, UEFI mode boot
and GPT disk - the install went fine, but the boot after installation
remains stuck at efi0 entry listing. I have to use the switch off
button to exit from this.
The install and boot works if I use Legacy mode boot with MBR
Hello,
I did an OpenBSD-current installation from snapshots on a computer I
use to run OpenBSD a few months ago. I used UEFI boot with GPT disk
format since it was working fine in the past. I was able to boot the
installer, the setup completed fine, but the boot process was stuck at
efi0: device
Courtney, I will try to suggest something.
First, I was having problems in the past with Firefox. I use to let
mpv play in the background ( a stream of internet radio) and the sound
has stuttering and pauses whenever Firefox loaded some pages. I was
told to use sndio for mpv as an option with
> With your email now however the original question remains: Does OpenBSD
> actually support hardware accelerated video decoding today?
General answer: NO.
A more detailed answer is like this: there is a talk on the list about
libvaapi (if i recall correctly) implementation for intel only. It
> [...] I have not had time to upgrade any of my APU systems to anything newer
> than 6.8, so I
> cannot personally attest that mSATA definitely works in 6.9+
This is one reason that incompatibilities sleeps thru: people run old
versions of software, the new ones don't reach the specific
> ... how to rectify it is beyond my capabilities as a new OpenBSD user.
First of all, there is nothing to rectify. All was done to act like
this and to serve a specific purpose. Much work and developers'
efforts were poured into this, again with a specific great purpose (
hint: security
> My problem is it does not boot with this mSATA disk in.
Can you try this after a dd if=/dev/zero for the first part of the
disk (i.e. 100Mb) ?
For the late comers to the party, see [1].
[1] https://www.hertzbleed.com/
> Indeed, the disk is hot;
Out of curiosity, what happens if you run that dd again when the disk is hot?
Is the transfer running at that high speed? Is it stuck to the throttled speed?
Thanks
> could be thermals.
Or it could be some kind of cache total miss. I find it strange to
overheat a storage after 4GB of transfers. Just saying.
Thank you.
> ... mg will use a tab for indentation.
Use something to replace every TAB occurrence in the source code with
8 spaces sequence. Well, not every TAB maybe?
[ ... ]
Just my user feedback, and only if it is wanted: I was not able to
understand a damn thing from all the messages about this change.
As an user, the "update" thing was always a voodoo for me. Ironically,
the FAQ has exactly 3 (three) lines of text, one is the command itself
(no offense
The idea of changing the OS implementation in order to suit an
internet browser is hilarious at least. The browsers developers are
not interested in proper implementation and inbreed of browser with OS
internals, no! All that matters is to make something work for the
browser itself.
I am not able
Hello,
I want to export XDG_CACHE_HOME variable used by Xorg.
What is the best place (file or ?) to export this variable?
I remember i used some file to export a long time ago PS1 variable.
Should I use ~/.login file or is it a better way to export this xorg variable?
OpenBSD amd64 here,
This short movie explains everything for the users:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BmhHyyzh9o
> ... just a rant ...
This is not the list you are looking for. Move along, please.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BmhHyyzh9o
> what did you do exactly? Did you remount / ?
I have to use # mount -uw /
Without / it is against my initial purpose.
Solved.
On Wed, May 4, 2022, 20:55 Otto Moerbeek wrote:
>
> what did you do exactly? Did you remount / ?
>
I started with a fresh install of snapshots for amd64.
Original /etc/fstab:
0a4b310a4a014e04.b none swap sw
0a4b310a4a014e04.a / ffs rw 1 1
0a4b310a4a014e04.l /home ffs rw,nodev,nosuid 1 2
Hello,
I want to map /tmp as a mfs type. I did this in my /etc/fstab:
0a4b310a4a014e04.b none swap sw
0a4b310a4a014e04.a / ffs rw 1 1
0a4b310a4a014e04.l /home ffs rw,nodev,nosuid 1 2
swap /tmp mfs rw,nodev,nosuid,-s=1g 0 0
0a4b310a4a014e04.f /usr ffs rw,nodev 1 2
0a4b310a4a014e04.g /usr/X11R6
> It doesn't work under Win7, I just check...
Fried soundcard?
And you have a lot of disks too, amazing ...
OpenBSD detected 3 sound cards for you. From what I recall, the one on
the HDMI video output (associated to your video card) is not
supported, so no sound there.
Maybe the sound goes to your envy0, ESI Julia sound card. Could you
check with some phones or speakers?
As for the Realtek one, it looks
On Sun, May 1, 2022 at 11:17 PM Antoine Jacoutot wrote:
>
> On Sun, May 01, 2022 at 11:06:15PM +0300, Mihai Popescu wrote:
> > On Sun, May 1, 2022 at 9:05 PM Antoine Jacoutot
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sun, 2022-05-01 at 20:51 +0300, Mihai Popescu wrote:
&g
On Sun, May 1, 2022 at 9:05 PM Antoine Jacoutot wrote:
>
> On Sun, 2022-05-01 at 20:51 +0300, Mihai Popescu wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I tried to enable gnome or kde after install in an openbsd snapshot for
> > amd64.
> > Last time (some time ago) I know
Hello,
I tried to enable gnome or kde after install in an openbsd snapshot for amd64.
Last time (some time ago) I know for sure there were some pkg-readmes
for both gnome and kde start. I can't find them now, I have some
readmes in the directory, but not for gnome nor kde.
Is there some other
Hello,
During my recent experimentation with ssd and OpenBSD, I came to a
point where the OpenBSD amd64 snapshot install was not able to boot
from ssd installed and booted in UEFI mode.
Since I was able to prior use this ssd in this configuration, I
started to analyze and check more in BIOS and
$ time dd if=/dev/zero of=test10g.dat bs=1m count=10240 conv=fsync
10240+0 records in
10240+0 records out
10737418240 bytes transferred in 260.289 secs (41251827 bytes/sec)
4m20.32s real 0m00.01s user 0m17.70s system
$ time dd if=/dev/zero of=test10g.dat bs=1m count=10240 conv=fsync
Hello,
I use OpenBSD amd64 snapshots on the following dmesg hardware.
The download rate on a browser was slow and I figured out with some
memory mapped partition that disk transfer rate was slow.
I can bear this since I'm not into large file transfer business. But
here is another interesting
> It lowers my confidence in Vultr as a reliable OpenBSD host.
Very well, it will match the confidence of running OpenBSD on a virtual machine.
Thank you for your time. It took me some tests and thinking to figure
out i should try the ram disk/partition/directory/whatever. Just
curios, how many users are using this for chromium?
> Just as with a disk/network filesystem, you can mount it at whatever
> directory you like. So directly over
> swap /tmp mfs rw,nodev,nosuid,-s=1g 0 0
for some reason, xenodm is not displayed and i am not able to login ...
Hello,
Since my computer is struggling with chromium and I suspect it's the
disk access being too slow, I want to map the directory accessed by
chromium ( i think it is ~/.cache) into the memory.
Looking in the man, i spotted rd, but i think i need to setup this in
the kernel.
The next choice is
try a...@openbsd.org list
and do some reading first
Well, I am very surprised to see an email going into OpenBSD vs all on
the list, and even more surprised to see it's author it a good veteran
of OpenBSD.
But I guess things change with time ...
Yes, trying multiboot without backups is a real problem calling. Most
of the email is pure hype. Not a
> Pure access points are just network bridges ...
Most AP I encountered were linux based with web servers for
configuration access.
Do you know if there is an AP model with minimal firmware to do that bridging?
If so, can you post some models, please?
Thank you.
Hello,
I have some new behavior of cwm lately: if i start chromium with a
window at 0:0 and maximized, it increments the base position with +1,
so that the following positions are +1:+1, +2:+2, etc.
I was using cwm with chromium a lot and the windows was always fixed
at 0:0, no matter what.
Is
Hello
I am using OpenBSD current amd64, recent snapshots. I have a second
AMD architecture where I experience the following from time to time (I
don't know yet how to trigger this): the sound of whatever i play
(mostly web youtube) is heard both in headphones and computer internal
speaker. I can
Try arm@
There is more information
On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 8:46 AM Janne Johansson wrote:
>
> Den sön 6 mars 2022 kl 16:41 skrev Mihai Popescu :
> >
> > Since this thread is moving slowly in another direction, let me
>
> True
>
> > reiterate my situation again: I am running a browser (mostly chr
Since this thread is moving slowly in another direction, let me
reiterate my situation again: I am running a browser (mostly chromium)
and the computer slows down on downloads. Since I've checked the
downloads rates, I observed they are slow than my maximum 500Mbps for
the line.
I can reach
> > Besides this, are my values too low or just the expected ones?
>
> It seems the throughput is bad. The small IO test showed good numbers
> for iops, but the second test (and I guess other people's suggestion
> to try dd from /dev/zero) will show that you seem to have a "thin
> wire" from the
> https://openports.pl/path/benchmarks/fio
> To test perf on many small IO (measuring iops basically) run:
>
> fio --name=random-write --rw=write --bs=4k --numjobs=2 --size=1g
> --iodepth=16 --runtime=60 --time_based --end_fsync=1
fio-3.26
Starting 2 threads
Jobs: 2 (f=2):
On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 3:08 PM Jan Klemkow wrote:
>
> On Thu, Mar 03, 2022 at 02:59:33PM +0200, Mihai Popescu wrote:
> > 2. Can you suggest a sane disk I/O benchmark, writing from RAM to disk
> > (i.e. cp /dev/null )?
>
> /dev/null will act as an empty file. you have
Hello,
I am trying to test some disk i/o speeds and I am stumbled on two questions:
1. Does it matter if I set in BIOS Legacy or AHCI for the drive,
regarding the read/write performance?
2. Can you suggest a sane disk I/O benchmark, writing from RAM to disk
(i.e. cp /dev/null )?
I am on
> Is that 260Mbps total maximum, or is that the limit for a single download but
> you can run 2 concurrent transfers and get close to the line speed?
Total maximum. I tried to run 2 concurrent transfers in the same time,
the speed was shared among them and chromium stalled and was moving
very
Hello,
I am using the computer described by the following dmesg and I am not
able to find where is a limitation. I have an internet connection of
500 Mbps download. It is handled by a router, and my computer is
connected in the LAN. This link can be fully saturated on another
OSes, tested on the
All this "mountain" stuff handling and like depends entirely of the
person doing it.
I hate it with passion (TM).
Since he does it often, i think he likes it.
> ... Ryzen 9 5950x on x570 chipset motherboard ...
Can you post the output of
sysctl | grep hw.
please?
Doing a wrap up, how an Intel i5 family cpu is seen by OpenBSD?
The family has 4 cores / 4 threads per package.
If someone can check please, with dmesg and sysctl.
Thanks.
I did set hw.smt=1 and all are shown now "online". I'm a little bit
worry since I switched to this cpu from a 2 core AMD. Total mess in
the CPU manufacturer yard. But we cannot produce our own cpu in the
kitchen, can't we?
# sysctl hw.smt=1
hw.smt: 0 -> 1
hw.machine=amd64
hw.model=AMD A8-5500B
> you mean gaps because HT is disabled ?
I think they are disabled from the factory, cores that are not 100%
functional, i.e defects.
There is one line for a family, the luckiest ones have the maximum
number of cores and $$$, the rest are lower but still functional on
the advertised cores.
I see in the AMD spec that I have a 4 core CPU, no *-threading. So it
is 4 core, 4 threads, no multi, simultaneous, hyper, etc.
Still the sysctl hw.ncpuonline reports 2, but it found 4 and top
displays CPU0 and CPU2 only ( that is 2). I am aware that each pair of
cores is using a shared FPU.
My
> ... gaps ...
What gaps are you referring to? The ones in dmesg for Intel in OP?
Also the smt is from simultaneous multithreading?
top also has a strange report, but i think is is known. sysctl hw. has
2 cpu online from 4 found.
load averages: 0.37, 0.43, 0.21
$ dmesg | grep smt
cpu0: smt 0, core 0, package 0
cpu1: smt 1, core 0, package 0
cpu2: smt 0, core 1, package 0
cpu3: smt 1, core 1, package 0
for
AMD A8-5500B APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics, 3194.46 MHz, 15-10-01
What could be the "smt" thing?
> Hrvoje Popovski wrote:
> It would be great that em(4) have multiqueue support, that box with veb(4)
> and >"parallel forwarding" diff on tech@ would kick ass :)
I've seen many hardware projects like this, where they say it is open
design and for open source. Try to find and arm board with
Please try to run firefox from a terminal to be able to see more
output messages.
It could be that the card is broken, I've seen cards where the basic
graphics functions where fine, but they went crazy each time advanced
graphics was used.
Here is my integrated video infos, and everything is
> Please reconsider my suggestion made on 2022-01-14:
Everybody wants to be a dev.
| This happens on 2 OpenBSD hosts. On 5 others there is no such problem.
Do you have an explanation why the 2 host out of 7 are behaving different?
I don't find it "reasonable" that 2 host out of 7 manifest some different
behavior on their own.
> It is an old less-secure practice ...
I use to think about security as secure / insecure (not secure). Is it ok
to use grades like less secure, more secure, etc.?
Thanks.
I am not sure you can find someone who knows (almost) everything about
disks and partitions even on OpenBSD area. There are so many "standards"
and "methods" that the utilities got their names in time:
fdisk - %#@& disk
dd - destroy disk
disklabel - diskbabel
But maybe I am mistaken.
>> OK, with expectations adjusted,
>> does anyone know what the three numbers
>> are _supposed_ to be?
>>
I guess you are talking about those numbers:
> dev/ic/lm78var.h talks about Temperature 1, 2, 3;
The 1,2,3 are the corresponding ports from the chip itself, there are
3 ports for temperature
> it looks like it goes to the LX memory controller. So it must be the
temperature of the board itself, more or less.
Looking at the LX Geode processor specs, the memory controller is
integrated in the CPU. So looking again at the pins names (AL17, AK17), it
looks like there is a diode inside the
ALIX.1E has schematics available. W83627HF has specifications available too.
>From the W83627HF one can see there are 3 ports for temperature monitoring:
PIN# | PURPOSE | FUNCTION
102 | VTIN3 | Temperature sensor 3 input (used for CPU2 temperature)
103 | VTIN2 | Temperature sensor 2 input
You didn't say what you used for boot, but I guess it is minirootXX.img.
Use installXX.img or installXX.iso - I don't remember what is the
difference between them or what is the purpose for each one, I didn't used
them in years.
Those images contain the sets and you can proceed with full disk
I was running some ordinary site on chromium, when all stopped and I was
returned to xenodm login window.
/var/log/Xorg.log.0.old
[21.456] (WW) checkDevMem: failed to open /dev/xf86 and /dev/mem
(Operation not permitted)
Check that you have set 'machdep.allowaperture=1'
in /etc/sysctl.conf
Old snapshot working fine at first run, installing all fw_update needed
packages:
Build date: 1635104269 - Sun Oct 24 19:37:49 UTC 2021
Last snapshot, stuck at fw_update, not installing. Using manual fw_update
works fine after that.
Build date: 1635178887 - Mon Oct 25 16:21:27 UTC 2021
After
On Sat, Oct 9, 2021 at 11:55 PM Chris Bennett <
cpb_m...@bennettconstruction.us> wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 09, 2021 at 09:53:46PM +0300, Mihai Popescu wrote:
> > I am running amd64-current from snapshots. I am installing a lot of
> > packages using pkg_add -vV pkg1 pkg2 ...
>
I am running amd64-current from snapshots. I am installing a lot of
packages using pkg_add -vV pkg1 pkg2 ...
I got some strange reports, see below. This is the third email about this,
maybe isn't it a big deal.
[output cut]
libreoffice-7.2.1.2v0:postgresql-client-13.4p0: 121/145
Some details for my issue ...
I have a Mikrotik hAPac2 as a router, and it serves the DHCP ip addresses.
In Mikrotik interface I put the following DNS servers, in this order:
1.1.1.1
1.0.0.1
The client is running OpenBSD-current from snapshots, amd64, asking for ip
address on a single ethernet
Hello,
Is there a reason or more for the reverse order of nameservers present in
the /etc/resolv.conf compared to what dhcp server is offering?
The man page for resolv.conf tells the servers are asked in the listed
order and right now my file has the secondary DNS server listed first, then
the
It's snapshots/amd64
I did some download from [1] and the SHA256 for miniroot69.img is FAIL.
The files with _obsd trails are from [2] and they are verified OK.
Build date: 1628609840 - Tue Aug 10 15:37:20 UTC 2021
[1] https://ftp2.eu.openbsd.org/
[2] https://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/
$ sha256 -C SHA256
I have another instance of this, maybe someone can look if it really is of
interest. Somehow, the current package name is messed up.
geda-0.1p1:gerbv-2.7.0p0: 184/194
geda-0.1p1:tcl-8.5.19p4: 185/199
geda-0.1p1:tk-8.5.19p1: 186/199
geda-0.1p1:gtkglext-1.2.0.20191219: 187/199
geda-0.1p1:gd-2.3.2:
Update: the issue was solved by one of the developers. It looks like the
wrong partition was marked active on the USB stick, partition zero instead
of 3. It can be done manually with fdisk.
And yes, the non-EFI boot is affected only.
All the actions was fast. Thank you.
I tried another USB disk with newer snapshots, same problem, the image does
not boot
Using drive 0, partition 0
Nos-system disk
Press any key to reboot.
Is it something changed?
Thanks
Hello,
I was using miniroot69.img to create an USB bootable stick using the FAQ
method:
dd if=miniroot69.img of=/dev/rsd1c bs=1m
When I boot, using this USB stick i get this:
Using drive 0, partition 0
Nos-system disk
Press any key to reboot.
I tried another USB stick, same problem. Old images
Hello,
I just installed an amd64 snapshot and spotted 2 odd things. I see there is
a mail for root, but when i run mail command i get the text No mail for
root.
The other is I login in xenodm to use cwm for the fisrt time after install
and the xenodm is restarted. Second login and future logins
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