On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Dragos d...@kyx.net wrote:
On 2011-01-13, at 7:31 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
It was my (apparently) lame attempt at being whimsical. Should have made it
I found it amusing. In fact I intend to steal it for my own uses. But maybe
postpenultimate
--Original Message--
From: Daniel Seuffert
Sender: owner-m...@openbsd.org
I don't care what you do for a living. B If it's not enough get a job and
work like anybody else.
DANGER, THEO, DANGER!! This get a job stuff - it's a dastardly
trick! I've tried getting a job and working
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote:
real; systrace does have the ability to grant root unless you build
Should that read does not?
the policy specifically to do such a stupid thing (actually, I am not
-g
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Jean-Francois jfsimon1...@gmail.comwrote:
Hi All,
I actually built the following system :
- OpenBSD running on a standard AMD platform
- This box is actually used as firewall
- This box is also used as webserver
- This box is finally used as local shared
On 3/12/08, Lars NoodC)n [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Looking ahead, what is the timeline for moving to Apache2?
Or what are the major reasons 4.3 is going to still use 1.3x?
Take a look at http://nginx.net/ BSD license, seems to work, but I
don't know about its security profile. I'm sure it's
On 2/18/08, Geoff Steckel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is my last posting on this, take heart.
Please enlighten me if there are any -other-
http://acmqueue.com/modules.php?name=Contentpa=list_pages_issuesissue_id=26
See especially Software and the Concurrency Revolution. An
articulate and
On 2/17/08, Marc Balmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Geoff Steckel wrote:
Threads or any other form of uncontrolled resource sharing
are very bad ideas.
that might be true for those that don't understand threads.
for other it can be highly benefitial.
Indeed, threads are bad strikes me as
On 1/7/08, Floor Terra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
=Offtopic==
Can you recommend a book about Godel and his works?
I have read A World Without Time from Palle Yourgrau and would
like to learn more about his work.
I'm afraid I cannot; I'm a rank amateur who couldn't possibly
understand
On 1/7/08, Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If OpenBSD does not need my endorsement, then OpenBSD developers
should not need to argue with me that I owe them an endorsement.
Quite right. As far as I can tell, they're not interested in your
endorsement; I'm not sure what gave you the
On 1/7/08, Jona Joachim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 07 Jan 2008 00:02:19 -0800, Reid Nichol wrote:
--- Duncan Patton a Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 22:21:14 -0500
Eliah Kagan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(There are also multiple useful,
On 1/7/08, Steve Shockley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
nicodache wrote:
I cannot anything but to appreciate and look how you are able to stay
calm and polite when I read some people on this ML talking about crap,
fucking duck with tape, shutting up things.
I have never seen anyone on this
(Sorry, I deleted the original thread so here's a new one)
Open Source Hardware has now been officially recognized as a phenom
by the Establishment:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/06/business/06novel.html?ex=1357275600en=592b78a8b11af008ei=5088partner=rssnytemc=rss
-g
On 1/5/08, Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does ReactOS recommend non-free software?
If so. please show me what it says, and the URL.
I have a better idea. Why don't you do your own fucking homework.
On 1/5/08, Karthik Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When I said everybody, I meant Everybody. Not one person. Applying the
same to OpenBSD, all that the people here do is bitch about and
nothing more.
Yeah, I noticed that too. Why, they haven't provided me with a free
upgrade for, what 2, 3
On 1/5/08, Marco Peereboom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There is no such thing as free as in beer. This is one of the dumbest
analogies I have ever heard. Who came up with it anyway? Was it the
Thank you.
But, like all good political slogans, it is stupid like a fox: the
hucksters who push it
On 1/3/08, Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm following the same principles that I apply to others.
I've explained both these principles and my actions; the readers
can judge all aspects for themselves.
I guess I missed the part where you explained how it makes sense to
apply a
On 1/4/08, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Firstly, your accusation that I only participate in flame-wars is
blatantly false.
Secondly, most of my posts on the flame-wars where trying to clear-up
false statements from some people.
Thirdly, some of my posts on the
On 1/4/08, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yet, I'm the asshole ?
Will wonders never cease? You got it right for once. Congrats! Now
quit while you're ahead.
On 1/3/08, Siju George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The wget he uses is worse.
You can download any non-free software with it and it does not warn
the user at all!!!
And electricity! I'm pretty sure (unless I'm misinformed) he uses
electricity provided by plants and distribution systems that are
https://www.securecoding.cert.org/confluence/display/seccode/CERT+Secure+Coding+Standards
Looks pretty good to me, but it's beyond my competence to judge. I'd
be very interested in what experienced OBSD developers make of it.
I've always kinda wished they would put together a guide to
On 12/17/07, Fergus Wilde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To: Santa, The North Pole (next to Superman's house)
Dear Santa,
I am a poor kid from England and what I really, really want for Christmas is
for this thread to end.
Love to Rudolph and the elves,
Fergus (age 45)
Dearest little Fergie
On 12/17/07, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Free Software as Richard Stallman uses the term is BSD.
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
Uh-huh. Sure. Whatever. Z.
From the above-mentioned url: In the GNU project, we use copyleft to
protect these freedoms
On 12/16/07, David H. Lynch Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
Distribute:
4) To pass out or deliver.
By providing URL's in its ports system, OpenBSD distrubutes - passes
out/delivers,
the items pointed to by the URL's.
Some of them are non-free.
Dude, you're a comic genius! Absolutely
On 12/15/07, David H. Lynch Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If I wrote a a BSD Licensed program to mailbomb jews.
Would that be acceptable within ports ?
Well now, this brings up an interesting point of jurisprudence. To
wit: does Godwin's Law apply here? One might argue that it only
kicks
On 12/15/07, Gregg Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
An advantage of the term covenanted software is that it is not
likely to be construed as necessarily a negative term, and hence might
be acceptable to RMS et al. A related but less charitable term:
cultic. Others: the GPL Compact
It all boils down to language and rhetorical strategy. rms claims
that OBSD encourages the use of non-free software. The OBSD folks
consider that incorrect and slanderous.
Instead of tis so - tis not argumentation, I propose a search, not
for agreement, but for clear, simple, and pragmatic
On 12/14/07, Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
People already know about non-free systems such as Windows, so it is
unlikely that the mention of them in a free package will tell them
about a system and they will then switch to it. Also, switching
operating systems is a big deal.
On 12/14/07, Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
whether that involves changes to the code. When I say relicensing I
mean distributing the code with another license applied. That doesn't
mean deleting the old license.
That's a useful distinction, but I suggest you find a different
On 12/13/07, Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
Even giving the URLs has the effect of referring people to those
non-free programs. It gives those non-free programs legitimacy,
and thus contradicts the idea that software should be free.
Dadgummit! Now we're going to have to tell
On 12/13/07, Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please see
http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/windows/faq2.html
And
ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/windows/
Not to mention:
http://directory.fsf.org/project/reactOS/ - ReactOS is a project to
create a free operating system
On 12/7/07, Andris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here is two messages from Hugo Leisink (Hiawatha developer). You'll
First of all, you have to take a look at the webserver market. You use
Apache, IIS, Lighttpd or you don't use anything at all. If you want
Ok, I'll take the bait:
On 11/20/07, Andris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, I have read about formal verification, and it sounds like a
perfect tool to outreach the project goals. I'm pretty sure developers
know about it, so I'd like to read comments or opinions.
You'll want to check out the Z specification language.
On 11/20/07, Andris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, I have read about formal verification, and it sounds like a
perfect tool to outreach the project goals. I'm pretty sure developers
know about it, so I'd like to read comments or opinions.
Some Z links:
The original de facto manual, outdated but
On 10/19/07, Ted Unangst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 10/19/07, Aaron W. Hsu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Tom Van Looy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 20:21:56 +
Subject: Re: cp(1) bug ?
it shall do nothing more with source_file and shall go on to any
remaining
On 10/16/07, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This isn't a problem.
The OP seems to think it is or he (she?) wouldn't waste his time
emailing the list or making an offer to a considerable amount of work to
fix it. Rather than just dissing him, why not enlighten us as to why
That
On 9/29/07, Otto Moerbeek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 29 Sep 2007, Karel Kulhavy wrote:
Personally, the feeling or message I am getting from these stickers is
we're
not sloppy, we want to do everything well, including graphics design.
In marketing terms, it makes an impression that
On 9/24/07, Christian Weisgerber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Aaron W. Hsu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am willing to guess that with something like Hebrew, OpenBSD has all the
necessary support for the system, but, most common applications do not have
support for the right-to-left way of
http://marc.info/?l=linux-wirelessm=118857712529898w=2
On 9/2/07, Dave Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
IIRC this is true for any country which has adopted the Berne
Convention, which is currently almost every country which has any
copyright law in place. It includes the U.S.
Yes. For the dimwits pontificating on this useless thread who can't
On 9/1/07, Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In the case of the later 3 files, their copyright notice says:
at your choice you may distribute under the terms of the BSD
license or under the terms of the GNU GPL v2
So if they chose to distribute those 3 files under the
On 9/1/07, David H. Lynch Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FSF/GPL licenses grant you the freedom to do almost anything EXCEPT
convert GPL'd code to proprietary code.
BSD/ISC Licenses claim to be Totally Free - specifically because
you can convert the code to proprietary code.
You could
Hi,
I wonder if the OpenBSD developers have a favored set of tools for C
code analysis. E.g. the kind of stuff listed at
http://www.spinroot.com/static/. Esp. stuff like
http://spinroot.com/uno/. Are such tools used in OpenBSD code audits?
Also, what about automatic code documentation tools
Clarification: I'm mostly interested in source browser tools (e.g.
cscope, e/t/gtags, global, etc.) or whatever can help a developer
understand unfamiliar source code in the shortest possible time. Is
there a preferred tool among OpenBSD developers?
On 3/26/07, Gregg Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED
On 3/26/07, Nick ! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OpenBSD... does not work like that. What made you decide it is a
terrific development platform? You do not even understand it's
philosophy.
I understand the Standard Response to that would be RTFM. But that
would be unhelpful, and even worse, rude.
On 3/26/07, Tobias Ulmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
lint(1), gcc-local(1)
style(7) may be worth reading...
Thank you; I didn't know about those man pages; I'll have to dig
around and find what other similar pages are there. OpenBSD's
documentation is pretty amazing.
-gregg
On 3/26/07, Marco Peereboom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ectags
ctags
cscope
All work fine within emacsOS and vim.
http://fxr.watson.org/ is invaluable too.
I see GNU Global does something similar:
http://www.tamacom.com/tour.html. Ever looked at it?
BTW I plan to write up a paper or guide on
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