Re: OK to GC net/hpodder?
Hi, On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 01:17:09PM -0700, Greg Steuck wrote: > The upstream has ceased hpodder development over 8 years ago. The port > has to be updated every time GHC is released and for all other > infrastructure changes. Even though we have enough patches for the > code to compile with GHC 8.10, there needs to be somebody who runs > this package to test it. Hence the proposal: > > Can we remove net/hpodder? I never used it, and dcoppa@ (the original maintainer) is inactive, so unless someone speaks up soon, I'm with you for removing it. CIao, Kili
Re: Haskell compilation issues
On Sun, May 19, 2019 at 12:18:44AM -0500, Joe Nelson wrote: > Matthias Kilian wrote: > > ps: please note that I'm not subscribed to misc@ with my 'real' > > mail account, only with a crappy gmail account I'm only reading on > > my tablet (from which I forwarded your mail to my real address). So > > better cc' me if you've any other questions ;-) > > FYI, the way you replied to the original message broke the reply chain > in my mail reader (Mutt). You should include an "In-Reply-To" message > header that references the Message-ID of the mail to which you are > replying. I know it might be a little tricky from your tablet setup, but > wanted to bring it to your attention if you weren't aware. I'm very well aware of it, and I've a really smart solution for the problem: I'll never ever even try to give some helpful answer to any of the mails on misc@
Re: Haskell compilation issues
Hi, > Hello, > I'm trying to start a little haskell project for the first time in a few > months. > This is the first time I'm trying to run ghc on OpenBSD > I'm not sure what ghc's problem is, I've pasted the error message below > along with the version of ld and dmesg > > I'm pretty sure that this is an openbsd problem. It's more a problem of ghc (8.2) trying to make guesses about the installed toolchain in a way that doesn't work correctly on OpenBSD. > The only "fix" I was able > to find was this: https://gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/ghc/issues/8825 > However, setting the locale had no effect. > I have also copied the version of ghc and the output of locale below. > > I appreciate any kind of help. > > --- ghc output --- > [1 of 1] Compiling Main ( Main.hs, Main.o ) > Linking Main ... > > : error: > Warning: Couldn't figure out linker information! > Make sure you're using GNU ld, GNU gold or the built in OS X > linker, etc. That error isn't an error but just a warning which gets misinterpreted by (probably) the ghc driver. If you check the exit code of ghc, you'll notice that it's 0. And if you ls -l, you'll see a perfect 'Main' executable. I think this should be fixed in ghc-8.6, but I can't check it now, because I managed to brick my build machine. I hope to fix it next monday and continue to work on a update of our ghc port. Ciao, Kili ps: please note that I'm not subscribed to misc@ with my 'real' mail account, only with a crappy gmail account I'm only reading on my tablet (from which I forwarded your mail to my real address). So better cc' me if you've any other questions ;-)
Re: Help contacting Richard Stallman
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 01:05:01PM -0700, Andrew Fresh wrote: > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 02:52:50PM -0500, Vanessa Kraus wrote: > > BLABLABLABLABLABLABLA > > BLABLABLA So much junk here. Bye bye misc.
Re: OT - UML, can someone state that it works ?
On Wed, May 05, 2010 at 03:48:24PM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote: > I have sen many attempts at UML and they all ended in tears. Not > surprising because UML is an academic thing Wasn't it a business thing from the beginning on, as you wrote in the next paragraph? > that does not apply to that > thing we call "reality". Total waste of time. But wait, it gets > better! If you want to see it fail even more spectacularly use the > "tools" they have such as rational rose. Hilarity ensues, I promise.
Re: OpenBSD culture?
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:38:56PM -0500, Ron McDowell wrote: > Yup, nowhere in that goals page does it say anything about "don't be > rude to the casual users." Maybe that is why OpenBSD is so far down the > list at http://bsdstats.org/ . What detail in the original reply Theo sent to the OP (and quoted it later on this list) was rude?
Re: Make "don't know how to make"
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 07:14:36PM -0700, Alexander Carver wrote: > >>The error isn't always the same file on two consecutive tries but they do > >>seem to repeat themselves (in other words, init_sysent.c has shown up as > >>an error more than once but not consecutively, same for pf.c) > > > >Intermittent and inconsistent signal 11's from the compiler: that's > >classically the sign of bad memory in the box. Try removing or > >replacing the memory. > > > > Ok, I've gone through multiple iterations of memory sticks of various > sizes and even swapped motherboards but I still get signal 11's. Is > there a low memory flag I can set that will prevent make from using all > available RAM? This signal 11 issue doesn't crop up immediately, it > takes quite some time before it finally shows up. Did you also try changing the power supply? Even if spurious segmentation faults are *often* caused by bad memory, bad mainboards, overheated cpus etc., they *may* also be caused by a bad power supply. Ciao, Kili
Re: Hardening OpenBSD : Just delete!
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 08:51:05PM +0100, Otto Moerbeek wrote: > > > ( http://geodsoft.com/howto/harden/OpenBSD/remove_files.htm ) > > > > He forgot to remove sh(1), unvis(1) and chmod(1). > > and getty(8), login(8), and /bsd Better remove the mainboard. That's way more secure and takes less effort. Ciao, Kili
Re: Hardening OpenBSD : Just delete!
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 05:43:43PM +0200, Ozgur Kazancci wrote: > Is this a joke? No, just complete idiocy. The person who wrote this bullshit clearly qualifies for the german parliament. > (Removing OpenBSD unnecessary and/or dangerous files) > > http://geodsoft.com/howto/harden/OpenBSD/remove.txt > > ( http://geodsoft.com/howto/harden/OpenBSD/remove_files.htm ) He forgot to remove sh(1), unvis(1) and chmod(1). Ciao, Kili
Re: -current or -stable [was: Not another Browser Question]
On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 08:08:37PM +0100, Bret S. Lambert wrote: > > Ok is that sarcasm, or are you for real? > > I have never seen espie@ in the same room as sarcasm, so I can only assume > they are the same person. If you're doing ports stuff, sarcasm is your best friend. Ciao, kili, slacking too much
Re: ports install problem
On Sat, Feb 06, 2010 at 08:39:19PM +0100, Dorian B|ttner wrote: > cd /usr/ports/lang/python/2.5 > env FLAVOR=no_x11 make install clean > > or similar, then restart as above Not at all. Before giving bad advices, would you please have a look at the ports in question? Ciao, Kili
Re: ports install problem
On Sat, Feb 06, 2010 at 08:43:08PM +0200, Paolo Supino wrote: [...] > ===> Returning to build of libxml-2.6.32p2 > ===> libxml-2.6.32p2 depends on: python->=2.5,<2.6 - not found > ===> Verifying install for python->=2.5,<2.6 in lang/python/2.5 > ===> python-2.5.4p1 uses X11, but /usr/X11R6 not found. > ===> Returning to build of libxml-2.6.32p2 > Dependency check failed [...] > Why does PHP5 need Python, It doesn't. It needs libxml2, which in turn needs python at build time for the python bindings. > and why does Python need X11? The Tk interface (that's the tkinter subpackage of python) needs X11. > What am I doing wrong? http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq15.html#PkgVsPorts http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq15.html#NoFun (last paragraph) Ciao, Kili
Re: cannot update packages after upgrade on 4.6 current as of january 12
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 03:25:40AM -0600, Donald Cooley wrote: > after upgrading current i tried to update all packages but update fails: [...] > Can't locate OpenBSD/OldLibs.pm in @INC (@INC contains: Some files missed from the snapshot, this is probably one of them. That should be fixed in recent snapshots (january 20th). Ciao, Kili
Re: how do I do a rename(1) ?
On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 01:10:06PM +0100, Christopher Zimmermann wrote: > I'm missing the http://linux.die.net/man/1/rename command in > OpenBSD. Preferably with regex support like in Debian. Is > there a similar tool or a port containing this tool? find(1), sed(1), mv(1), sh(1) Ciao, Kili
[OT] Re: scrotwm: anyone with a non-US keyboard ?
On Sat, Jan 09, 2010 at 12:44:07PM -0600, Chris Bennett wrote: > >I need some test reports for this on both US and non-US (aka silly) > >keyboards please. > > > Silly?? Just try typing n-tilde and accents using all copy and paste! > I've done that horror now and then. > Ouch! :) Put something like setxkbmap -option compose:ralt into your .xsession and you can use all kind of accented characters and umlauts with your shiny new compose key (using ralt-"-a, ralt-s-s, ralt-n-~ etc.). Ciao, Kili
Re: ksh (IEEE Std 1003.1-2008 ?)
On Fri, Jan 08, 2010 at 10:18:39PM -0800, J.C. Roberts wrote: > When you append to a variable within a 'for' loop, the changes are > exist after the loop ends, but if you do the same within a 'while' > loop, the changes are lost? [...] > # Now we try the same type of thing with the 'while' loop. > cat list.txt | while read -r WNAME; do [...] That while loop is running in a separate process; the parent process won't see any variable changes made in the loop. Ciao, Kili
Re: Which laptops do the developers use?
On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 04:10:34PM -0500, nixlists wrote: > On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Marco Peereboom wrote: > > It was removed because it was out of date and didn't contain anything > > really useful. Laptops basically work just fine with OpenBSD minus some > > moody ones. > > MacBook? MacBook Air? PowerBook? Supported at all? PowerBook? Sure. But I don't see how this is related to i386-laptop.html.
Re: dmassage skipping softraid
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 12:46:07PM -0800, patrick keshishian wrote: > > Seriously, how much time did you gain every reboot? 15 secs? And how > > often did you really reboot those boxes? Frequent power outages? > > I'm certainly not defending the use-case for this program/script, but, > 15 seconds per boot is quite a bit of time. Don't think "servers", > think laptops. If one powers on/off their laptop two times a day, > ignoring weekends, over the span of a year that is amounts to over two > hours. Some day you plug in your latest USB-powered dildo and it doesn't work (because dmassage disabled it), and you're scratching your head (or other hairy body parts) about why it doesn't work. For the sake of dildos, please don't use dmassage. Ciao, Kili
Re: ksh bug?
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 10:45:51PM -0800, Philip Guenther wrote:
> $ printf 'foobar\n'
> foo\\bar
> $ printf 'foobar\n' | { read -r foo; echo "$foo"; }
> foo\bar
That's backslash interpretation performed by the echo shell builtin.
For example:
$ echo 'foo\\bar'
foo\bar
$ echo -E 'foo\\bar'
foo\\bar
$ printf '%s\n' 'foo\\bar'
foo\\bar
> $ bash
> bash-4.0$ printf 'foobar\n' | { read -r foo; echo "$foo"; }
> foo\\bar
In bash, the echo shell builtin seems to have opposite defaults than the
one in ksh:
$ bash
$ echo -e 'foo\\bar'
foo\bar
Ciao,
Kili
Re: Doubt about updating the ports
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 06:23:43PM -0300, Daniel Bareiro wrote: > Using kernel bsd.rd and following the procedure of the Link that you > mention, I obtain the following when executing pkg_add: [...] > fugu:~# pkg_add -vui -F update -F updatedepend [...] > Can't install glitz-0.5.6p1: lib not found GL.9.0 Then you didn't update your system to OpenBSD-4.6 first. Or you skipped xbase46.tgz install set.
Re: Has anyone a dual head monitor Matrox G450 G550 or G650 graphics card working with OpenBSD 4.6?
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 08:23:23PM +0100, chefren wrote: > Has anyone a dual head monitor Matrox G450 G550 or G650 graphics card > working with OpenBSD 4.6? IIRC, those devices need some BLOB from matrox that has been maintained by a poor employee of matrox who didn't get any money for his work on this, and who weren't allowed to publish the sources (not speaking of documentation). I threw my matrox card into the dust bin several years ago. Ciao, Kili
Re: OT: Python (was Re: vi in /bin)
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 06:00:14PM -0600, Marco Peereboom wrote: > > [1] except of course for Haskell, the ONE TRUE GOD of proper programming :P > > Really? then why do you use scrotwm? Because I'm a slacker.
Re: A question about puting OpenBSD on a Soekris
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 07:45:58AM +0100, Tomas Bodzar wrote: > Ufff, did you read link which I send before? > http://www.kernel-panic.it/openbsd/embedded/ > Because there is everything described including mounting fs ro, > install and so on. It's giving bad advices. You can setup a soekris using a perfectly normal install using pxeboot and a serial cable. If still you want to tweak things, you can do this after the install. There's absolutely no need for a soekris "howto". Ciao, Kili
Re: A question about puting OpenBSD on a Soekris
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 01:32:44PM -0500, Nick Holland wrote: > Just yesterday, I inquired about "small" CF media. Smallest my local > computer superstore had was...4G. 4G!! Want a smaller one? I've a (4 years old) 256MB media in my soekris and I'd exchange it for the 4GB one ;-) Oh, and for the public: I'm running a boring standard installation of OpenBSD on it, with all sets except comp and the x stuff. Yes, manpages and games are installed, too. Ciao, Kili -- CRM114 isn't ugly like PERL. It's a whole different kind of ugly. -- John Bowker
Re: ComixWall terminated [WAS: ComixWall 4.6 released, December 8, 2009]
On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 08:01:05PM +0100, Christopher Zimmermann wrote: > > How does abstraction of arguably the cleanest, easiest to > > learn UNIX, help OpenBSD? > > It helps in promoting OpenBSD. Promoting OpenBSD will make > OpenBSD more widely known. This will attract more possible > developers. They will write code for OpenBSD. This will help > OpenBSD. This is ridiculous.
Re: can't get vesa @ 1280x800 or nv
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 07:21:37PM -0200, Rodrigo Amorim Bahiense wrote: > As said: I'm not a fanboy. I "thought" nvidia was doing something > that was good enough to me, but actually isn't helping the community at > all. [...] Yea, `the community'. Who the fuck is that? Nobody managed to explain that to me during the last 20 years. Ciao, Kili, member of the community of Kilis (beware, there are three of us -- me, my brother, and my father)
Re: Security via the NSA?
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 10:04:59PM +0100, Gilles Chehade wrote: > OpenSSL doc parse error
Re: cp -r different than cp -R ?
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 11:45:03AM +1300, Paul M wrote: > This always confused me - Presumably there is some reason why the > implimentation > of the -r flag could not be fixed to copy symlinks, FIFOs, etc > correctly. Existing scripts could rely on the behaviour of the history -r; changing it could break those scripts very badly. There are only two options: either remove -r completely from cp(1), or keep it and don't touch its behaviour. Ciao, Kili
Re: readline wrapper like rlfe ?
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 08:10:31PM +0100, Christopher Zimmermann wrote: > I used to call programs not supporting libreadline with the rlfe > wrapper which added history and commandline editing. > Is there such a thing for OpenBSD? Information for inst:rlwrap-0.28 Comment: generic readline wrapper for various programs Description: rlwrap is a 'readline wrapper', a small utility that uses the GNU readline library to allow the editing of keyboard input for any command. rlwrap should be especially useful when you need user-defined completion (by way of completion word lists) and persistent history. Maintainer: Deanna Phillips WWW: http://utopia.knoware.nl/~hlub/uck/rlwrap/ Ciao, Kili
Re: fail with "xenocara"-current build
On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 05:08:29PM +0300, sda wrote: > hi folks, > > i386-current, building "xenocara", default recommended settings. result: > > > cd /usr/xenocara/app/xfs && exec make -f Makefile.bsd-wrapper depend > ** > ** > /usr/bin/cpp -D__xorgversion__="\"xfs 1.1.0\" \"X Version 11\"" > -D__appmansuffix__=1 -D__libmansuffix__=3 -D__adminmansuffix__=8 > -D__miscmansuffix__=7 -D__filemansuffix__=5 -D__configfiledesc__="the > default file," -D__configfilepath__="/etc/X11/fs/config" < > /usr/xenocara/app/xfs/xfs.man | sed -e '/^# *[0-9][0-9]* *.*$/d' -e > '/^#line *[0-9][0-9]* *.*$/d' -e '/^[ ]*XCOMM$/s/XCOMM/#/' -e '/^[ > ]*XCOMM[^a-zA-Z0-9_]/s/XCOMM/#/' -e '/^[ ]*XHASH/s/XHASH/#/' > -e '/XSLASHGLOB/s/XSLASHGLOB/\/\*/' -e '/\...@\@$/s/\...@\@$/\\/' > xfs.1 > /usr/bin/cpp -D__xorgversion__="\"xfs 1.1.0\" \"X Version 11\"" > -D__appmansuffix__=1 -D__libmansuffix__=3 -D__adminmansuffix__=8 > -D__miscmansuffix__=7 -D__filemansuffix__=5 -D__configfiledesc__="the > default file," -D__configfilepath__="/etc/X11/fs/config" > -DDEFAULTFONTPATH="/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/OTF/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" > -DFSERRORS="/var/log/xfs.log" < /usr/xenocara/app/xfs/config.cpp | sed > -e '/^# *[0-9][0-9]* *.*$/d' -e '/^#line *[0-9][0-9]* *.*$/d' -e > '/^[ ]*XCOMM$/s/XCOMM/#/' -e '/^[ > ]*XCOMM[^a-zA-Z0-9_]/s/XCOMM/#/' -e '/^[ ]*XHASH/s/XHASH/#/' > -e '/XSLASHGLOB/s/XSLASHGLOB/\/\*/' -e '/\...@\@$/s/\...@\@$/\\/' > config > rm -f doc/xfs-design/xfs-design.css > doc/xfs-design > doc/xfs-design: not found pkg_delete xmlto before building xenocara. I've some diffs fixing the problem, but they're too ugly to be expected upstream. If I find some spare time, I'll make some better diffs. Ciao, Kili
Re: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/03/linux_kernel_vulnerability
On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 04:55:58PM +0100, Justin Smith wrote: > > And now we get into the fun stuff. > > > > Ever heard of 'secure by default' ? > > > > This knob is set to '0' by default. > > > > How many Linux installations actually read the above paragraph, understood > > what value it could have to set to something other than zero, and changed > > it accordingly. > > > > 'Nuff said. > > > "By default, Ubuntu 8.04 and later with a non-zero > /proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr setting were not vulnerable." > > Ubuntu 8.04 released in 2008 april. And if you install something like wine, the knob is set back to 0, probably without any notice (at least in ubuntu-8.10). You don't even have to run it, just installing it is enough, if I understand the mechanism correctly. But more important is the fact that the original kernel sources have the knob set to 0 by default. Ciao, Kili
Re: thanks for 4.6!
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:37:31PM +0100, Peter wrote: > It's debatable whether the Dvorak layout is any faster, but what is not > in doubt is the reduction in key travel. you're not a pianist
Re: thanks for 4.6!
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:01:47AM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote: > > Some people should really give vi-mode in ksh a try ;-) > > As a vi user I can't deal with it > > The reason being that you have to use j k to go up and down in the > history. Life would be bliss if one could reassign the arrow keys. I'll put it on my ksh TODO list, which now consists of two entries: 1 cleanup and finish my 64 bit arithmetics diff (yes, i'm a hopeless case of a slacker) 2 enable arrow keys in vi-mode Ciao, Kili
Re: thanks for 4.6!
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 10:00:28PM -0700, patrick keshishian wrote: > > Funny, I always disliked CTRL-A being taken by screen, since it was > > so handy to go back to the beginning of the command line in ksh. > > But then, I make a lot of typing errors at the beginning of command > > lines, I guess. :) > > I agree. C-a always annoyed me in screen for the same reason as you > bring up: positioning to the beginning of the shell command. C-b is > almost as annoying in vi when i want to page up ;) ... Some people should really give vi-mode in ksh a try ;-) Ciao, Kili
Re: xauth
On Sun, Oct 04, 2009 at 01:03:02PM +0300, Rein Kadastik wrote: > > The fix had been merged to the stable branch (OPENBSD_4_5) of > > xenocara, so just rebuild xauth from this branch. > > > > Or look for duplicate entries in your /etc/hosts and remove them. > > Instead of fixing Xenocara or other programs, the proper way to solve > this issue is to elliminate the possibility to have multiple records > of the same host in /etc/hosts file. Like, make it read-only and immutable or some shit? > I was stunned to see that after installing fresh OpenBSD and > configuring and setting it up, I had several entries for 127.0.0.1 in > my hosts file without modifying it by hand. It is clearly a flaw in > OpenBSD or even standard Unix libraries. This shouldn't happen, I didn't see this in recent installs. I don't have spare box for testing, but since Rod already wrote that he doesn't have seen duplicate entries in his installs, I doubt there's an error in the installer. > So the patch for Xenocara is a quickhack instead of a fix for the problem. Fixing a NULL pointer deref is a quick hack? Did you even *look* at the bug and the bug fix? > If there are several entries of the same host in hosts file, then I > would expect misbehaving programs all over the place but unfortunately > only xauth was complaining xauth didn't complain, it crashed. Because it had a bug. That bug has been fixed. So what? Ciao, Kili
Re: xauth
On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 10:27:41AM +0100, Jamie Griffin wrote: > > The fix had been merged to the stable branch (OPENBSD_4_5) of > > xenocara, so just rebuild xauth from this branch. > > I installed OpenBSD4.5 yesterday and i'm having the exact same issue. What's so difficult to understand in my mail? Rebuild xauth from the stable branch or remove duplicate entries in your /etc/hosts. > Removing the ~/.Xauthority file does allow X to start again. Until the next segfault. Ciao, Kili
Re: xauth
On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 02:38:08AM +, 4625 wrote: > >>>On first run and exit from X, I have 'Segmentation fault (core dumped)' > >>>(xauth.core). [...] > >How old is you X installation? Afaik this bug was fixed in march 09. > My X come with OpenBSD 4.5 distributive. The fix had been merged to the stable branch (OPENBSD_4_5) of xenocara, so just rebuild xauth from this branch. Or look for duplicate entries in your /etc/hosts and remove them. Ciao, Kili
[ot] Re: Simple question about ./configure
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:23:31PM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote: > run! if you have to do ./configure your personal hell has > started... If you call running ./configure a `personal hell', what do you call it when you have to modify configure.ac and re-run autoconf? enterprise hell? (SCNR) Kili
Re: Problem getting packages
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 09:57:15PM +0200, Simon Loewen wrote: > ...And am told these packages don't exist. I am following an > installation document here to install SpamAssasin: > http://www.kernel-panic.it/openbsd/mail/mail6.html That guide is retarded. It seems to list nearly all dependencies that amavisd-new & friends required at a certain point in time. If you need spamassassin, pkg_add p5-Mail-SpamAssassin. If you need amavisd-new, pkg_add amavisd-new. > Can't resolve p5-Compress-Raw-Zlib > Can't resolve p5-IO-Compress-Base > Can't resolve p5-IO-Compress-Zlib > Can't resolve p5-Compress-Zlib > Can't resolve p5-IO-Zlib > Can't resolve p5-Archive-Tar > Can't resolve p5-IO-INET6 Those are now in base or have been replaced by other packages. Ciao, Kili
Re: Where is the CLISH port ?
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 05:30:27PM -0500, Fernando Quintero wrote: > I`m trying to find the last try for the clish port, in archives exists an > url[1], but it does not work right now, maybe someone have a copy from this > port? It seems that I did download and save it (for whatever reason -- I don't remember). Copied to http://openbsd.dead-parrot.de/clish.tar.gz Ciao, Kili [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/x-tar-gz]
Re: proper test for 64bitness of platform?
> We set _LP64 and __LP64__ variables on 64-bit arch. > > $ cpp -dM /dev/null | grep LP64 > #define _LP64 1 > #define __LP64__ 1 It should also be ok to (ab)use LONG_BIT from limits.h, depending on how the code is 64 bit specific. Ciao, Kili
Re: Can't boot system after installing OpenBSD 4.5 rlease
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 11:22:36PM +0800, Feifei () wrote: > I install the OpenBSD 4.5 from official CD with the (I)nstall option, > > I md5sum the " OpenBSD 4.5 offical ISO file", it is correct. ( I am not sure > whether it is broken when burning CD) > > I try to re-install OpenBSD 4.5 and , run these command before the first > reboot: > > #/mnt/usr/sbin/chroot /mnt/ > #cd /mnt > #file boot > boot: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1, statically linked, > stripped > #ls -al boot > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 43380 May 11 17:10 boot > > then, boot it, but also > " Using drive 0, partition 2. > Loading... > ERR M > " I'd bet a beer that it's a geometry or size problem. What's the output of fdisk(8) and disklabel(8) for that machine? Ciao, Kili
Re: configure: error: must build tcl with --enable-threads on openbsd 4.5 (i386)
On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 12:22:52PM -0700, Robert Gilaard wrote: > I installed OpenBSD 4.5 yesterday and installed the package tcl-8.5.6. > > Based > on http://www.openbsd.org/4.4_packages/i386/tcl-8.5.2p1.tgz-long.html I > concluded that the tcl package on OpenBSD was built with threads > support. No. There's only the non-threaded tcl available on FTP (I don't know wether there's a good reaon for it). > However, when I try to compile aolserver, the configure script exits with the > following error: > configure: error: must build tcl with --enable-threads > > It looks like it wasn't built with threads support. > > What am I doing wrong here? You need the threaded flavor of tcl, and since there's no package availabel, you've to build it yourself: $ cd /usr/ports/lang/tcl/8.5 $ FLAVOR=threaded make install Ciao, Kili
[ot] Re: sudo won't work with login_fingerprint
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 03:28:34AM -0400, Nick Guenther wrote: > omg we have finger print reader support??? ! yes, and it's really cool, since i've some quite sharp knifes. (scnr)
Games
The new release song is really catchy. Many thanks to Jonathan, Jonny, Russ, Theo and Ty. Ciao, Kili
Re: I can't connect to Internet
On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 11:06:20PM +0200, Jose P.G wrote: > Wow... i never expected so many responses... i still have problems, and *this > time i have written it correct* for sure: "export pkg_path= > ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/4.4/packages/i386/";. This time is written > well, i still don't know where the problem is. tHe worLD Is CASe sEnsitiVE
Re: Wim
On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 09:59:38PM +0200, Toni Mueller wrote: > > This guy some of you think is so honest. He's filtering port 25 > > from cvs.openbsd.org. > > did you try sending from a different server thereafter? Wim *does* filter traffic from cvs.openbsd.org. At least on ports 25 and 80: $ telnet www.kd85.com 25 Trying 62.116.6.182... [nothing] $ telnet www.kd85.com 80 Trying 62.116.6.182... [nothing] Silly. So silly. Ciao, Kili
Re: love me love me, fool me fool me
On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 05:50:17PM +0200, frantisek holop wrote: > so no 1st of april fools this year, hm? No. because the joke from 2007 (HTTP and Gopher into libevent) can't be topped. Ciao, Kili
Re: European orders
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 01:37:29AM +0200, Richard Ben Aleya wrote: > We cannot accept a such behaviour. Who is "we"? > European people is offended when they read such things. I'm from Europe, and i don't feel offended. Please don't speak up in my name. Ciao, Kili
Re: Browsers was: Re: firefox starts two times
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 03:39:41PM -0700, patrick keshishian wrote: > There are methods of fetching just the video off youtube if that's all > you want. I think I've even seen at least two scripts in ports that > just do that (www/youtube-dl is one and the other I can't recall its > names off top of my head). net/yt
Re: SOEKRIS - How to install MTR to a Flashdist image
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 07:42:31AM -0700, Frothingdog.ca wrote: > I have the image mounted to /mnt/etc using vnconfig so I can modify the > files before flashing the image (ie. boot.conf, rc, dhcpd.conf...etc). But > I'd like to install a coupe packages into the image, such as MTR and TTCP. > However I'm not quite sure how to do it or even where to start. I'm a newb > to this. chroot(8) into the directory, then pkg_add(8) the packages via ftp, http, or from an nfs mount. Ciao, Kili -- Krankheit als Weg -- wie verarbeite ich meinen Kopfdurchschu_? -- Ansgar Stein
Re: might be slightly OT: `probability in PF'
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 12:14:44PM +0100, Henning Brauer wrote: > > so anyway, how are _you_ using probability? > > it's high on my list of useless features in pf I'd rather remove. > if anybody is actually using it, I'd like to hear about it. I used it once about two years ago, to simulate a bad line (testing some weird file transfer software at $CUSTOMER). It was fun, but I wouldn't have missed the feature if it weren't there. Ciao, Kili -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. -- David Letterman
Re: user-friendliness and netbsd
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 06:38:07PM +0100, Pau wrote: > "For those new to NetBSD, the early user experience can be poor. This > is especially true when coming from a Windows, Mac or Linux > backgrounds. While basically sound, the installer asks many detailed > questions and is unintuitive. If new users persevere and install the > system, they are left with a 1980s-style text prompt(...)" Next time when I'm in a condition similar to that in vienna after p2k8, I'll test *all* installers of *all* existing operation systems. I'm sure I'd managed to do a perfect installation of OpenBSD; but pirofti@ may disagree ;-) Ciao, Kili
Re: A virus road map for GNOME and KDE?
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 09:28:50PM +0100, Paul de Weerd wrote: > Are you actually insane ? beeing at @openoffice.org is a clear sign of beeing insane or weird to some level. No pun intended, Really. > E-mail may not be an acceptable surrogate for a networked filesystem, > but you sure can easily transfer files with it. Now it's wrong to do > so because Lars tells us ? To add to this: there were times when no internet existed, and yet people did exchange files via email or news. Ciao, Kili -- Der erste Affe, der vom Baum stieg, war ein DAU. -- Horst Hoffmann in dtj
Re: Segmentation fault (Core dumped) when "Make Build"
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 09:47:57AM +0100, Matthias Kilian wrote: > Did you clean your /usr/obj before running make build? > i.e. rm -rf /usr/obj/* And of course, make obj after it.
Re: Segmentation fault (Core dumped) when "Make Build"
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 02:09:15PM +0700, Insan Praja SW wrote: > When upgrading my OBSD 4.5-beta machine, I got > ===> usr.sbin/bind > PATH="/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin" CC="cc" CFLAGS="-O2 -pipe " > LDFLAGS="" INSTALL_PROGRAM="install -c -s" sh > /usr/src/usr.sbin/bind/configure --prefix=/usr --localstatedir=/var > --sysconfdir=/etc --disable-shared --disable-threads > --disable-openssl-version-check > Segmentation fault (core dumped) > *** Error code 139 Did you clean your /usr/obj before running make build? i.e. rm -rf /usr/obj/* Ciao, Kili
Re: Port ZFS to OpenBSD
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 04:29:37AM -0800, Mike Swanson wrote: > > As marco already stated, it could be a kernel module. But it won't. > > Why? Because nobody will write it. > > Who is nobody anyway? He's a french guy. I've seen him during p2k8 in Budapest ;-) (did anyone take a picture of him?) Ciao, Kili
Re: Break pkg_add cyclic dependency
On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 03:48:29PM +, Mike Williams wrote: > # pkg_add -n -v ghostscript-8.62p2-a4-cups [...] > Can't install ghostscript-8.62p2-a4-cups: can't resolve cups-1.2.7p9 > Can't install foomatic-filters-3.0.2p1: can't resolve > ghostscript-8.62p2-a4-cups > Can't install cups-1.2.7p9: can't resolve foomatic-filters-3.0.2p1 > Can't install ghostscript-8.62p2-a4-cups: can't resolve cups-1.2.7p9 [...] > So what is the way to break this cycle of dependenciesso I can get a > CUPS flavored ghostscript installed? TIA This has been fixed in current. For 4.4, the workaround is to first install the unflavored ghostscript, then install cups, then replace the installed ghostscript by the one with the cups flavor using pkg_add -r. Ciao, Kili
Re: weekly/locate.updatedb problem
On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 12:39:57PM -0600, Denny White wrote: > I know from past experience and doing a lot of online searching > that this problem crops up from time to time. Usually someone > just did a new install and doesn't know the locate.datebase > isn't created by default. There's an empty /var/db/locate.database in etcXX.tgz. Didn't you install etcXX.tgz? Ciao, Kili
Re: Incorrect output from pftop on OpenBSD 4.4
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 09:25:32AM -0800, valgray wrote: > I have an odd problem with pftop 0.7 on OpenBSD 4.4 system. The output from > it looks like: > > pfTop: Up State 1-4/4, View: default, Order: none, Cache: 1 17:10:12 > > PR DIR SRC DEST STATE AGE EXP PKTS BYTES > tcp In 192.168.42.167:60317 192.168.42.168:22 ESTABLISHED:ESTABLISHED > 48701986m 35320631m 1574144K 6189571K [...] I think most (if not all) functions of pftop are now included in systat(1), at least in -current.
Re: /bin/ksh file completion bug
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 08:00:11PM +0100, LIVAI Daniel wrote: > Can anyone else see this behaviour? I could reproduce it on two > different OS: > > $ mkdir asd[fgh]jkl > $ mkdir asd[fg]hjkl > $ cd asd <-- now press the completion key, in my case TAB > $ cd asd\[fg <-- ksh completed the name partially, so I add another > character to narrow my options to exactly one: > $ cd asd\[fgh <-- press completion key > nothing happens, ksh won't complete it to the full 'asd[fgh]jkl' name. Yes, tab-completion on directories with funny characters is broken (at least for '[' and '@'). I had some (unfinished) diff a few years ago, but unfortunately, I lost it. Ciao, Kili -- Dieses Medium provoziert leider zum Streit, ein geschriebenes Wort steht und steht und wirkt und wirkt. -- Manfred Albat zu einem Streit in braunschweig.allgemeines
Re: no pg_dump?
On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 05:53:17PM -0500, Charlie Farinella wrote: > http://www.openbsd.org/4.4_packages/i386/postgresql-client-8.3.3.tgz-contents > .html > > Thank you. > > I have everything on the list except: > > /usr/local/bin/pg_config > /usr/local/bin/pg_dump > /usr/local/bin/pg_dumpall > /usr/local/bin/pg_restore This is odd. Did your machine crash or got a full filesystem during the update/install? Do the inode change times of the actually installed files (like /usr/local/bin/psql) match the time of your update/install? Is there any partial-* stuff in /var/db/pkg? Does pkg_delete -n -Fdependencies (and don't omit the `-n') complain about some missing files? Where do you get your packages from, i.e. what's your PKG_PATH? > What would you suggest I do? I can do pkg_delete on all installed > PostgreSQL packages and start over I suppose, or build PostgreSQL from > source. > > I ran pkg_add -u for the client package, but that didn't help. Whatever happened to your system, you could (with a PKG_PATH pointing to a place with correct packages) probably go with pkg_add -r -Finstalled,update postgresql-client (I'm a little bit unsure, because the manpage specifies -Finstalled for update mode only, but IIRC, you can use it for enforcing `-r', too) Ciao, Kili
Re: weird diffs in cvsweb
On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 10:08:03PM +0200, Otto Moerbeek wrote:
> > > Is CVSWEB broken?
> >
> > No, that's just the way CVS keywords work: the expansion is done at
> > *checkout* and not at commit. This can be seen using the -ko option
> > to "cvs up" or "cvs co" to disable the expansion done at checkout
> > time. Just trust what you see on the revision listing and ignore the
> > keywords in the diff output.
> >
> > (Beware: the -k option is normally 'sticky', so if you use -ko you
> > should either combine it with -p to just send the output to stdout (in
> > which case the -ko isn't sticky) or do a fresh update with -A to
> > 'unstick' it. Of course, the -A will also clear any -r option you
> > had...)
[...]
> but when I do a
>
> cvs diff -r 1.94 -r 1.95 if_tun.c
>
> on my local mirror i'm seeing the right $OpenBSD$ markers.
What's right and what's wrong? Try
$ cvs -q di -ko -r1.9{4,5} if_tun.c
I guess cvsweb is using -ko for diffs, to show the diffs in the
*repository*, not what you would see in a working directory.
Ciao,
Kili
--
kili slowly fills the attic...
-- mbalmer
Re: ? Recommended News Server
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 01:55:37PM -0400, bofh wrote: > I've been using the inn dev version without any issues. Yummy. Do you have something like a port of it? Ciao, Kili
Re: correct way to run kdm?
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 11:24:14PM +0200, Mark Prins wrote: > > http://www.openbsdsupport.org/KDM.html > > > step 2.2-2.6 should do the trick. And that's what? I don't see something called 2.2-2.6 there (but I'm old and lazy and I don't understand those HOWTOs). > the rest of the document, i find, > is just plain confusing Of course. It's a typical HOWTO. Anyway, I just gave kdm a try. First, just disabling xdm and running kdm from /etc/rc.local, leading to the problems tedu@ mentioned (just an xterm, blue background, keyboard input garbled). The problem here is that kdm by default launches an X server on vt1. However, after a genkdmconf, everything looks fine here, so I'll do some more checks tomorrow (or later[tm[). (I still don't know why tedu@'s setup fails after genkdmconf). Ciao, Kili
Re: GPL version 4
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 05:41:50PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > You missed an important philosophical point. In Richard Stallman's > world view, it isn't the user's freedoms that matter, it's the > *software*s freedom. Oh, great. First poeple bend the term "freedom" (like FSF does), then they talk about the freedom of bits and bytes (software). Now let's start a "free teapots" campaign.
Re: newsyslog errors in logs (OpenBSD 4.3)
On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 02:49:03PM -0500, Denny White wrote: > > newsyslog: warning - could not send SIGHUP to daemon [...] > First, did you check to see if syslogd is running? Nah, this warning is triggered when a pid file is specified in newsyslog.conf and the kill(2) on the pid fails. Ciao, Kili
Re: Problems building bison on OpenBSD 4.3
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 02:28:07PM -0600, Gerardo Santana Gsmez Garrido wrote: > I'm running OpenBSD 4.3-stable on i386. Ports are 4.3-stable too. How? It's not even released.
Re: Real men don't attack straw men
On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 03:49:19PM -0500, Richard Stallman wrote: > When the ports system contains a recipe to build and install P, it's > natural to say that P is "included in the ports system". You are > interpreting the word "included" in a very literal sense, but that's > not the only normal usage of the word. You're twisting words. So do I (from your bsdtalk interview): - I didn't want to accept beeing forbidden to share. We share. We even share recipes for installing non-free software, but doing so is still a real PITA of the user doing so. According to several postings here, it's much more easy to install precompiled non-free software on gNewSenses than on OpenBSD (since OpenBSD just doesn't provide non-free binaries). We've also some people spending shitloads of work for getting things like Java to run on OpenBSD (e.g. kurt@). You call this unethical. What did you (or anyone else from the FSF) do to make Java "free"? Ciao, Kili ps: laywer's keyword: a2ps, still undecided, still sitting in the fsf queue, and i'm still seeing it on ftp.gnu.org -- better delete it NOW!
Re: no 4.2-stable package updates??
On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 11:26:13AM -0500, Brian A. Seklecki wrote: > There's a vulnxml feed for OpenBSD ports. It should be updated with > critical patches, and those should be pulled into 4.2-stable. Unfortunately, it isn't that easy. Some updates imply updates of depending ports (e.g. poppler and evince), which may imply further updates of dependencies. So you'll end up with -current -- more or less, including more updates... Ciao, Kili -- Ich habe noch niemanden gesehen, der eine man-page so schnell verstehen kann, wie sie einem ein 486er auf den Schirm haut. -- Martin Neitzel
Re: scp doesn´t recognizes 127.0.0.1* as filename
On Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 04:43:35PM -0500, Chris Tankersley wrote: > so it's looking to SCP a directory called '31' on the server > '127.0.0.1-2007-11-26-18' to the other server. If you put the filename > in quotes, does it work? Quotes are interpreted by the shell, so this won't help. Just prefix the file name with ./ to let scp interpret the whole thing as a simple file name.
Re: Running cwm and fvwm at the same time?
On Tue, Nov 20, 2007 at 11:36:26AM +0100, Alexander Hall wrote: > Well, these seems to run quite well on a single one. :-) Can anyone > confirm this? Yes, I can reproduce this (launching cwm in a session already having fvwm running, i.e. on the same display). I need a beer now. Ciao, Kili
Re: when was a pkg installed !!!
On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 05:16:53PM -0500, Josh Grosse wrote: > > i ran pkg_info with all common options but none tell me when > > was the pkg installed!!! > > $ ls -l /var/db/pkg/ No. Those files and directories are also touched when depending packages are installed or updated. -- MCSE - Microsoft Certified Spongiform Encephalitis -- Dominik Rudisch in dtj, 11.3.2001
Re: OpenBSD kernel janitors
On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 10:30:05PM +0100, Hannah Schroeter wrote: > >So, start by sending diff's then. Almost every diff's I saw sent in, got > >reply one way or an other. > > My recent experiences differ, for my last 2 submissions (an issue with > swig, sent to ports@ after interaction with the maintainer; the sendmail > nit I sent to tech@ a few days ago). That will be fixed within the next ten minutes, at least for your swig patch ;-) It's true -- sometimes submissions don't get feedback in time or are just dropped. This sucks, but it happens, and I've no idea how to deal with this problem in general. (personally, if I'm short of time, I tend to ask submitters to send me a reminder if nothing happens within a few days or weeks). Ciao, Kili
Re: Speeding up OBSD bootup
On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 04:08:41PM +0200, Karel Kulhavy wrote: > Is it possible to specify the kernel that the hardware for which there are > drivers probing for but I don't have in my PC is absent? Since OBSD has no > suspend to disk/RAM, the bootup speed is critical when working with a laptop > in public transport. You can use config(8) to disable drivers without building a new kernel, but you really have to know what you're doing. There's a tool called dmassage in the ports tree (sysutils/dmassage) which can help determining unused devices by looking at dmesgs's output. My experience (I tried it once on a Soekris Net4801) is that doing this kind of tuning won't gain you much speed at but time but is a real PITA if you want to plug some new device and have to re-enable it first to use it. Ciao, Kili -- Automake and autoconf deserve to wither and die, but unfortunately noone at GNU seems to make much of an effort to euthanasize them. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys, on Lilypond-devel mailing list
Re: OpenBSD Install Goal
On Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 04:49:26PM -0600, Bob Beck wrote: > > I hope one day soon OpenBSD will adopt a nice ncurses setup > > similar to something like FreeBSD with ease to it. [...] > > As OpenBSD grows there simply is no reason, or logic to keeping > > around such an archaic method of installation it now uses. > > > > Please keep me informed if you will, I'd love to hear the > > thoughts, and ideas on this possible progress. > > I await your diffs! Please feel free to write one that works, and > fits on the install media for 10 architectures. Oh, please. Even it it fits, it would be useless. Installation is sequential (find disks, fdisk them (on i386-like archs), disklabel them, choose install sets, install). Fancy curses interfaces or even high-resolution progress bars with dancing puffy animations won't change this. Ciao, Kili ps: this is mainly adressed to the OP, and obviously not to beck@ ;-) -- What is this? Some kind of grep bitten by a radioactive spider? -- William S. Yerazunis about the crm114 interpreter in "The CRM114 Discriminator Revealed!"
Re: kernelmode pppoe 4.1
On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 09:48:29AM -0500, JD Bronson wrote: > My question is, is there a way to politely shut down the pppoe0 > interface during a reboot? Sure. Add ifconfig pppoe0 down to your /etc/rc.shutdown. Ciao, Kili
Re: Rename multiple files at once
On Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 02:37:07PM +0200, Pieter Verberne wrote: > How do I rename multiple files at once? I want to rename a list of > files like: > > file.jpg > file1.jpg > file_2.jpg > > to: > > file_thumb.jpg > file1_thumb.jpg > file_2_thumb.jpg given that no funny filenames (with space, quotes etc.) are around, and that i'm not mistyping the following line: ls *.jpg | sed '[EMAIL PROTECTED](.*\)[EMAIL PROTECTED] & \1_thumb.jpg@' | sh
Re: Flags for WD driver
On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 11:57:55AM -0700, Ted Unangst wrote: > >Is there any documentation on the exact functions of the flags that can be > >passed to WD via config? I haven't found any, and I'm not a good enough C > >programmer to tease them out of the source. > > man wd? That "last" bit confuses me ;) Index: wd.4 === RCS file: /cvs/src/share/man/man4/wd.4,v retrieving revision 1.12 diff -u -w -p -r1.12 wd.4 --- wd.415 Feb 2005 19:24:41 - 1.12 +++ wd.414 May 2007 19:05:16 - @@ -52,7 +52,7 @@ The next four bits indicate the DMA mode mode. .Pp For each set of four bits, the 3 lower bits define the mode to use -and the last bit must be set to 1 for this setting to be used. +and the highest bit must be set to 1 for this setting to be used. For DMA and UltraDMA, 0xf () means .Dq disable . For example, a
Re: Xdm fix in Xenocara
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 09:22:58AM +0200, Landry Breuil wrote: > dunno if it has already been reported, since the switch to xenocara xdm > didn't want to start anymore, > it was complaining (/var/log/xdm.log) for missing files in > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm (which didn't exist..) That's a configuration problem, you probably still have references to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm in your /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config. Ciao, Kili -- >Nein, mein Geddchtnis ist manchmal wie ein... Wie hei_t noch dieses >Gerdt, durch das man Reis abgie_t? Kochbeutel?
Re: Upgrade 4.0 -> 4.1 / files gone
On Fri, May 04, 2007 at 12:57:14PM -0400, Frank Bax wrote: > During audit of upgrade from 4.0 to 4.1, I notice that a couple of files > that were in etc40.tgz have been removed from etc41.tgz > /.profile > /.cshrc huh? $ tar tfz etc41.tgz|sed 2q ./.cshrc ./.profile Where did you get your install sets from? Ciao, Kili -- > Aber meine Kenntnis |ber die Geheimsprache ROT-13 hat mich davor bewahrt in > eure Falle zu tappen. iud waqzzqz mgot mzpqde. -- Frank Paulsen in de.alt.sysadmin.recovery
[OT] Re: Beep!
On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 07:09:17PM +0200, Stefan Sperling wrote: > cat /bsd > /dev/speaker is fun, too, especially if you're > into weird electronic music ;-) In this case, you should also try madplay (from ports) on kernels for different platforms, but be sure to use a rate between 1 a 4 kHz. Ciao, Kili -- DE:Signaturen erzeugen Krebs. EN:Signatures cause cancer. ES:Signaturas provocan cancer. LATIN:Cancerem signatura faciunt. SE:Signaturer fvrorsaka cancer. FR:Les signatures provoquent le cancer. RO:Signaturile produc cancer. RU:Podpis'ki razvivazt rak. PL:Signatury provokuyom racka [send translations]
Re: bcw(4) is gone
On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 05:25:53PM -0400, Daniel Ouellet wrote: > A great day for the Open Source community I tell you. In the public, most people talking about "open source community" don't really care about open source or community at all -- they just want great software for cheap, and they aren't developers and don't contribute. At least that's my impression. Maybe i'm wrong. I hope i'm wrong. Sorry for the rant. Ciao, Kili, still slacking far too much -- Das ist ein "hiermeins dadeins" BALKEN -- Kay Freier zur philosophischen Frage, wie denn die Dinger heissen, die man im Supermarkt hinter seinen Krempel aufs Fliessband packt.
Re: A backwards approach to upgrading.
On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 03:01:11PM -0400, Peter Fraser wrote: > [...] If you REALLY wish to get rid of all these old > files, you are probably better off reinstalling from scratch. Well, that's of course correct, but there are ways to identify (and remove) obsolete files and libraries after an upgrade. I'm using the checkflist scripts (and some local scripts to reduce the output) to get a rough idea about what *may* be candidates for removal. Ciao, Kili -- Anti-Stau Massnahmen sind vergleichbar mit dem Versuch, die Wespen vom Kuchen abzuhalten indem man einen zweiten Kuchen daneben stellt. -- Markus Sander in drf
Re: A backwards approach to upgrading.
On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 02:22:46PM -0400, Peter Fraser wrote: > I use an approach to upgrading that I have not seen written > anywhere. It does need additional space in the root partition > but with disks these days that is not normally a problem. [...] I really don't see any benefit compared to the normal procedure (i.e. boot from one of the install media, enter u as in Upgrade, and proceed). And for /etc, just follow the upgrade FAQ or extract etcXX.tgz and xetcXX.tgz to some temporary place and use mergemaster(8) (available as package or from the ports tree) to merge them in. Ciao, Kili -- "How do I read this file?" - "You uudecode it." - "I I I decode it?"
Re: vi keys in mg
On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 11:58:10AM -0700, Bryan Irvine wrote:
> >Real men use ed, you misguided fool.
>
> ed? is that like pico? ;)
Please don't bitch on ed(1).
- It's great if you have to make trivial changes for ${CUSTOMER}, and
want to get your money -- i.e. use emacs(1) or vi(1) and ${CUSTOMER}
is disappointed, since he understands what you're doing; use ed(1)
and ${CUSTOMER} is impressed because you're a typing strange
characeters into a terminal and suddenly everything works.
[Disclaimer: this concept came frome a friend of mine]
- ed(1) is great as CVSEDITOR. You do a cvs di -wu, then you do a cvs ci
and still see your changes on the terminal, so you're able to write a
good log message for your commit.
- You can use ed(1) non-interactively from shell scripts, changing
files in-place. Yes, perl(1) can do it too, but it has a little
bit different memory footprint.
- In hostile environments (hopping over several hosts running different
operating systems, including VMS) you'll end up with a dumb
terminal sooner or later. For small tasks, using ed(1) is much
or efficient than fixing terminal issues to make vi(1) or emacs(1)
work.
Ciao,
Kili, usually sticking with vi(1).
--
Kvnn't man kyrillisch, wdr's echt idyllisch.
-- "hwicht" in de.rec.motorrad
Re: Is OpenBSD VuXML broken?
On Sun, Mar 18, 2007 at 12:56:50AM +0530, Siju George wrote: > is there any other place to get updated RSS feed for the same thing? http://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=errata It's also metalinked from http://www.openbsd.org/security.html now. Ciao, Kili -- Es gibt kein Leben vor'm Login. -- Martin Neitzel
Re: OpenBSD-Entwickler wollten kritische Lu:cke kleinreden
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 05:56:03PM +0800, Lars Hansson wrote: > > http://www.heise.de/security/news/meldung/86730 > > And for the majority of the worlds population that doesn't speak German > this says exactly what? It looks like some kind of (deliberate?) misinterpretation of the Core report. Heise also made available an english translation: http://www.heise-security.co.uk/news/86757 Note that the author of the (german) article is [EMAIL PROTECTED], so you should send any complaints to him, not to the translator. Note also that Heise tends to correct errors in their articles without notice. For example, they first stated that it wasn't unclear wether the bug has really been fixed. Later, some reader told them that this was related to the suggested workaround (scrub vs. block), and today that statement has been removed. Without any comment. Ciao, Kili
Re: problem with locate
On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 12:38:52AM +0059, Han Boetes wrote: > > This is probably not a bug. You locate database is likely > > corrupted, like the error message says. > > OK, I'll install an alternative locate implementation. You're just a fucking troll. Go away. I tried my best, I told you how you should procede with your locate(1) problem, but you just don't get it. So please go away.
Re: problem with locate
On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 11:07:21PM +0100, Otto Moerbeek wrote: > > I am discussing a bug which I don't know how to solve. This really > > belongs in tech@ > > This is probably not a bug. You locate database is likely corrupted, > like the error message says. It could be a bug or a pebkac. I asked the OP to 1) publish the (probably broken) locatedb 2) re-run updatedb(8) and repeat the test 3) if 1) and/or 2) aren't feasible, debug it by himself So let's wait for some usable feedback. Ciao, Kili
Re: strange configuration file
On Sat, Mar 10, 2007 at 09:22:02AM -0300, Gustavo Rios wrote: > Does anybody now what "resolv.conf.tail" means? Where did it come from ? $ man resolv.conf.tail
Re: trouble making an X release
On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 03:31:50PM -0500, Peter wrote: > lndir: ../XF4: No such file or directory [...] > What am I missing? The sources? See FAQ 5.3. Ciao, Kili
Re: no controlling tty error
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 01:39:16PM -0800, Bryan Irvine wrote: > sh: No controlling tty (open /dev/tty: Permission denied) [...] > sh: cannot create /dev/null: Permission denied Use ls(1) to see what's wrong with /dev (probably just empty), then use MAKEDEV(8) to repair it. Ciao, Kili -- GUIs normally make it simple to accomplish simple actions and impossible to accomplish complex actions. -- Doug Gwyn (22/Jum/91 in `comp.unix.wizards')
Re: php mail() function fails
On Fri, Jan 12, 2007 at 11:53:34AM -0800, Bryan Irvine wrote: > >yeah because the guy who wrote the mail() function in php thought it > >would be > >easier to call popen() and save the command line parsing than parsing it > >then > >calling an exec*() function. > > isn't that the recomended method in C too? No. popen() shouldn't even exist. No sane error handling, no sane control of execution and environment. Just don't use it. (Did I miss something?) Ciao, Kili
Re: compile times
On Fri, Jan 12, 2007 at 05:16:30PM -0500, Chuck Robey wrote: > Just because I am so surprised that building XF4 seems to take (so far) > longer than even a build of src, which is certanly not what I expected. > The build of src took about 24 hours, but XF4 has now been whacking for > more than 30 hours, and seems to still be going strong. When you're done with XF4, please give OpenOffice a try. (SCNR) Ciao, Kili
Re: Spamassassin segfaults
On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 11:30:27AM +0100, Karel Kulhavy wrote: > Can you recommend a different tool than spamassassin? I wonder > what CRM114 is http://crm114.sourceforge.net/ I've some unfinished ports for crm114 available, and i'm using it for quite some time now to classify mail. Works quite well, but you've to train it a lot in the beginning, and you've still to watch out for false positives, especially after training new false negatives. Ciao, Kili
Re: unkillable process
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 10:20:10PM +0100, Karel Kulhavy wrote: > I wrote a program that wrote a lot of data to a file and then > tried to kill it. It was unkillable. Even kill -9 didn't > work. [Blubb, Blubb] Several people told you that this isn't Linux. We don't have crystal balls. Or are you just trolling? Ciao, Kili
Re: Moving from tcsh to pdksh: how to recall partially typed in command? (ESC-p)
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 12:48:04PM +0100, Alexander Farber wrote: [...] > In tcsh I was typing "ll /var/w" and then ESC-p(revious) > and ESC-n(ext) to search for the matching commands. [...] > So what do you do in ksh, when you start to > type a command and then realize, that it must > be somewhere there in the history already? Well, using vi-mode, i prefer to ESC-# the current command line and then use ESC-/ to search. If there's nothing appropriate in the history, i abort the search and use ESC-k ESC-# to get the partial command line back. Ciao, Kili
[ot] Re: java on openbsd
On Tue, Nov 14, 2006 at 10:12:31PM +0100, Tobias Weisserth wrote: > And regarding the language: Java runs on millions if not billions > of devices. It does not run on arm/OpenBSD. It does not run on powerpc/OpenBSD. It does not run on vax/OpenBSD. Heck, it even behaves differently in on i386/Linux, i386/Windows, sparc/Solaris and pSeries/Linux, and to this platform diversity the vendor diversity (Sun vs. IBM) yet adds more subtile differences, especially if it comes to threads or GC behaviour. Believe it or not: Java is *not* platform independent, at least not in so-called "enterprise" environments. BTW: Windows runs on millions if not billions of desktop PCs, so it must be better than OpenBSD. And: there are many so-called open-source operating systems around that happily accept BLOBs, let single persons write drivers based on documentation they'd to sign NDAs, so those systems are probably better than OpenBSD. They just *must* be superior to OpenBSD. But wait! They've serious problems with their wireless drivers, isn't that funny? Sorry, but for that "millions if not billions" argument, my honest response is: "people, eat more shit -- millions of flies can't be wrong." Ciao, Kili, making a life with Java since about 1998.
Re: layout of filesystems on OpenBSD
On Sat, Nov 11, 2006 at 03:52:36AM +0100, Marc Espie wrote: > > space is /usr? X11R6 content is static. (yes, I know, software packages > > put stuff there, but for the purposes of this discussion it's static). > > Actually, no, on OpenBSD, software packages do not put stuff there. Opemmotif does (Motif.rules and Motif.tmpl). Ciao, Ki "i'm still sleeping" li -- I have to agree, Gentoo's install docs are some of the best out there and will allow just about anybody to install OpenBSD. -- Derek Tracy on misc@openbsd.org
