can't boot -current i386
Hello, I'm trying to get -current snapshot working on my laptop but thus far I've had no luck. Whenever I try to boot bsd.rd my system hangs while still loading the kernel. This hang seems to happen after it loads pciide but before any wd drives are detected. I've tried disabling the following in various combinations but still can't get to a login prompt: acpi ehci uhci pciide usb wd atapiscsi cd I've tried both an April 28th April 29th bsd.rd, bot have the same issue. My current November 21st snapshot is still working, dmesg attached. Any clues? thx // nick OpenBSD 4.4-current (GENERIC.MP) #1156: Fri Nov 21 14:45:01 MST 2008 dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP cpu0: Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2300 @ 1.66GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.67 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,VMX,EST,TM2,xTPR real mem = 2137432064 (2038MB) avail mem = 2058313728 (1962MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 06/13/07, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xffa10, SMBIOS rev. 2.4 @ 0xf7980 (44 entries) bios0: vendor Dell Inc. version A17 date 06/13/2007 bios0: Dell Inc. MM061 acpi0 at bios0: rev 0 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP HPET APIC MCFG SLIC BOOT SSDT acpi0: wakeup devices LID_(S3) PBTN(S4) MBTN(S5) PCI0(S3) USB0(S3) USB1 (S3) USB2(S3) USB3(S3) EHCI(S3) AZAL(S3) PCIE(S4) RP01(S4) RP02(S3) RP03 (S3) RP04(S3) RP05(S3) RP06(S3) acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) cpu0: apic clock running at 166MHz cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor) cpu1: Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2300 @ 1.66GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.67 GHz cpu1: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,VMX,EST,TM2,xTPR ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 2 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apid 2 acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0) acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus -1 (AGP_) acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 3 (PCIE) acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 11 (RP01) acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP02) acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP03) acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus 12 (RP04) acpiprt7 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP05) acpiprt8 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP06) acpicpu0 at acpi0: C3 acpicpu1 at acpi0: C3 acpitz0 at acpi0: critical temperature 126 degC acpiac0 at acpi0: AC unit online acpibat0 at acpi0: BAT0 model DELLUD2646 serial 933 type LION oem Sanyo acpibtn0 at acpi0: LID_ acpibtn1 at acpi0: PBTN acpibtn2 at acpi0: SBTN acpivideo at acpi0 not configured acpivideo at acpi0 not configured acpivideo at acpi0 not configured bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xe800! 0xce800/0x1800 cpu0: unknown Enhanced SpeedStep CPU, msr 0x06130a2c06000a2c cpu0: using only highest and lowest power states cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 1667 MHz (1404 mV): speeds: 1667, 1000 MHz pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82945GM Host rev 0x03 vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel 82945GM Video rev 0x03 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) intagp0 at vga1 agp0 at intagp0: aperture at 0xd000, size 0x1000 inteldrm0 at vga1 Intel 82945GM Video rev 0x03 at pci0 dev 2 function 1 not configured azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 Intel 82801GB HD Audio rev 0x01: apic 2 int 21 (irq 10) azalia0: codecs: Sigmatel STAC9200, Conexant/0x2bfa, using Sigmatel STAC9200 audio0 at azalia0 ppb0 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x01: apic 2 int 16 (irq 0) pci1 at ppb0 bus 11 wpi0 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG rev 0x02: apic 2 int 16 (irq 4), MoW2, address 00:13:02:46:b3:5a ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 3 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x01: apic 2 int 19 (irq 0) pci2 at ppb1 bus 12 uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: apic 2 int 20 (irq 9) uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: apic 2 int 21 (irq 10) uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: apic 2 int 22 (irq 7) uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 3 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: apic 2 int 23 (irq 5) ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: apic 2 int 20 (irq 9) usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1 ppb2 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BAM Hub-to-PCI rev 0xe1 pci3 at ppb2 bus 3 bce0 at pci3 dev 0 function 0 Broadcom BCM4401B1 rev 0x02: apic 2 int 17 (irq 4), address 00:14:22:d1:bd:2c bmtphy0 at bce0 phy 1: BCM4401 10/100baseTX PHY, rev. 0 Ricoh 5C832 Firewire rev 0x00 at pci3 dev 1 function 0 not configured sdhc0 at pci3 dev 1 function 1 Ricoh 5C822 SD/MMC rev 0x19: apic 2 int 18 (irq 11) sdmmc0 at sdhc0 Ricoh 5C843 MMC rev 0x01 at pci3 dev 1 function 2 not configured Ricoh 5C592 Memory Stick rev 0x0a at pci3 dev 1 function 3 not configured Ricoh 5C852 xD rev 0x05 at pci3 dev 1
Re: can't boot -current i386
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:24:00 +0200 Nick Nauwelaerts n...@nauwelaerts.net wrote: I'm trying to get -current snapshot working on my laptop but thus far I've had no luck. Whenever I try to boot bsd.rd my system hangs while still loading the kernel. This hang seems to happen after it loads pciide but before any wd drives are detected. I've tried disabling the following in various combinations but still can't get to a login prompt: acpi ehci uhci pciide usb wd atapiscsi cd I've tried both an April 28th April 29th bsd.rd, bot have the same issue. My current November 21st snapshot is still working, dmesg attached. Any clues? Ofcourse, that should be March, not April. // nick
Re: 3Qs, including How insane to have /var mount with softraid discipline raid 1 ?
I'm also running my /var on softraid since yesterday. To move the data I used a static copy of rsync bsd.rd, took about 2 minutes. As for #3, that's something that can be taken into account once you know that it can happen. // nick On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 22:26:09 -0600 Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us wrote: #1 no #2 i use softraid for all kinds of uses; nothing you mention here is odd or out of place #3 that is correct; the lazy author still hasn't finished partial bringup and rebuilds. that guy kind of sucks and needs to be reminded often to get off his lazy slack bum butt. On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 08:31:57PM +, ppru...@webengr.com wrote: #1 In a real world for small non-profits, in many cases, its what was left over or donated, so question one, does the softraid, bioctl, have to much heartburn if the drives are not the same geometry... I've always used matching drives for raid of anytype, but even $60*2 for two drives is a stretch for some nonprofits these days #2 And the next question in the subject, thinking about which mounted partition changes the most frequently through the day that would be /var The others, /usr for example don't change as much and could be rsync or tgz nightly...or weekly however... perhaps /home and /tmp, but definitely /var. could change significantly during the day. For example the log files, /var/mail, /var/mysql and so on are active. I wander about /var/mysql and ldap being on a softraid.? How insane would it be to use the new softraid features for all of /var to make a mirror raid 1 of say 3 drives and then dump and restore the orig. /var to that softraid and change /etc/fstab for /var to use it? #3 Of note, as I understand (might not documented in man yet) if one or two of the three raid1 partitions making the volume fails, it will keep running but cannot be rebuilt... To 'rebuild' means dumping the volume, in this case /var with say 'dump' may be best over pax/tar and then making anew a softraid and restoring the dump. But what happens if the computer reboots with say the third drive missing the power cable? and it runs for a day or so, then tech reboots with molex plug put back it? does the softraid catch the third drive up? This is something I guess I could test myself, just asking. tia.
Re: softraid 1 with a failed device
On Fri, 6 Mar 2009 11:07:06 -0500 Ted Unangst ted.unan...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Alexander Hall alexan...@beard.se wrote: Would the ffs partition end at the end of the raid partition, i.e. would it be ($raidsize-64) blocks? Technically yes, you should trim it down, though only matters so far as you shouldn't have overlapping partitions. The file system size is recorded in the superblock so it won't start writing past where it should. I did indeed miss the part where I needed to adjust the disklabel location. I'll give that a go or perhaps Marco might have partial bringup complete in a few days. // nick
Re: softraid 1 with a failed device
On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:39:43 -0600 Aaron Poffenberger a...@hypernote.com wrote: You can't rebuild a softraid(4) right now (manually or automatically). You have to recreate it. The process is to make a new softraid and restore(8) the data from a recent dump(8). If you don't have a dump you can create the original device with the remaining disk(s) by forcing it: # bioctl -C force -c 1 -l /dev/sd1d softraid0 Then you can dump, recreate and restore the device. I do believe there is work being done to add manual and maybe later auto rebuild. For now this is the process as I understand it. It seems that one slipped through the cracks, regretfully I did try it before and it did not work. Tried it again just to be sure: # bioctl -C force -c 1 -l /dev/sd1d softraid0 bioctl: not enough disks Any clues? I'm looking for a way to use it with just one disk while the other gets replaced. // nick
softraid 1 with a failed device
Hello, I was wondering how one can recover from a softraid in raid1 with a failed device. Recover being: just run on 1 leg until I can find a replacement disk. The error on reboot I'm faced with after loosing one disk is the following: softraid0: not assembling partial disk that used to be volume 0 I see references to this on the mailing list in November 2007 and was wondering if a partial bringup of a raid 1 array was already possible. All my attempts resulted either in bioctl complaining it did not have enough disks: # bioctl -c 1 -l /dev/sd1d softraid0 bioctl: not enough disks Or an invalid argument (sd1e used to be the second raid1 slice): # bioctl -c 1 -l /dev/sd1d,/dev/sd1e softraid0 bioctl: BIOCCREATERAID: Invalid argument This is a test setup to see how I can rebuild raid1 arrays; that's why both slices are on the same disk. On a related note: do raid1 arrays ever go dirty? All tests I did thus far failed to get them in a state where the metadata was corrupt. Does that get rebuilt upon reboot after an unclean shutdown? I failed to find anything in the manpage or my dmesg regarding that. Thanks // nick OpenBSD 4.5-beta (GENERIC) #2011: Mon Feb 9 13:01:20 MST 2009 t...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC real mem = 2146369536 (2046MB) avail mem = 2072330240 (1976MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.4 @ 0xe0010 (45 entries) bios0: vendor Phoenix Technologies LTD version 6.00 date 07/22/2008 bios0: VMware, Inc. VMware Virtual Platform acpi0 at bios0: rev 0 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC BOOT acpi0: wakeup devices USB_(S1) acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) cpu0: Quad-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 8356, 2310.78 MHz cpu0: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SSE3,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW cpu0: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 512KB 64b/line 16-way L2 cache cpu0: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 16 4MB entries fully associative cpu0: DTLB 48 4KB entries fully associative, 48 4MB entries fully associative cpu0: AMD erratum 113 detected and fixed cpu0: AMD erratum 89 present, BIOS upgrade may be required cpu0: apic clock running at 65MHz cpu at mainbus0: not configured ioapic0 at mainbus0 apid 2 pa 0xfec0, version 11, 24 pins acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0) acpicpu0 at acpi0 acpibat0 at acpi0: BAT1 not present acpibat1 at acpi0: BAT2 not present acpiac0 at acpi0: AC unit online pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82443BX AGP rev 0x01 ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 Intel 82443BX AGP rev 0x01 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 pcib0 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 Intel 82371AB PIIX4 ISA rev 0x08 pciide0 at pci0 dev 7 function 1 Intel 82371AB IDE rev 0x01: DMA, channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0 scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets, initiator 7 cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: NECVMWar, VMware IDE CDR00, 1.00 ATAPI 5/cdrom removable cd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2 pciide0: channel 1 ignored (disabled) piixpm0 at pci0 dev 7 function 3 Intel 82371AB Power rev 0x08: SMBus disabled vga1 at pci0 dev 15 function 0 VMware Virtual SVGA II rev 0x00 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) mpi0 at pci0 dev 16 function 0 Symbios Logic 53c1030 rev 0x01: apic 2 int 17 (irq 9) scsibus1 at mpi0: 16 targets, initiator 7 sd0 at scsibus1 targ 0 lun 0: VMware, Virtual disk, 1.0 SCSI2 0/direct fixed sd0: 6144MB, 512 bytes/sec, 12582912 sec total sd1 at scsibus1 targ 1 lun 0: VMware, Virtual disk, 1.0 SCSI2 0/direct fixed sd1: 51200MB, 512 bytes/sec, 104857600 sec total mpi0: target 0 Sync at 160MHz width 16bit offset 127 QAS 1 DT 1 IU 1 mpi0: target 1 Sync at 160MHz width 16bit offset 127 QAS 1 DT 1 IU 1 em0 at pci0 dev 17 function 0 Intel PRO/1000MT (82545EM) rev 0x01: apic 2 int 18 (irq 11), address 00:50:56:b9:38:55 isa0 at pcib0 isadma0 at isa0 com0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo com1 at isa0 port 0x2f8/8 irq 3: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 pmsi0 at pckbc0 (aux slot) pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot wsmouse0 at pmsi0 mux 0 pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61 midi0 at pcppi0: PC speaker spkr0 at pcppi0 lpt0 at isa0 port 0x378/4 irq 7 fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0/6 irq 6 drq 2 fd0 at fdc0 drive 0: 1.44MB 80 cyl, 2 head, 18 sec mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support softraid0 at root softraid0: not assembling partial disk that used to be volume 0 root on sd0a swap on sd0b dump on sd0b (kbd slot)
Re: fps between 10/28 and 11/2 snapshots
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:37:06 -0600 Neal Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been running -current via snapshots and have had odd glxgears output between the 10/28 snap and 11/02 snap. Back on the 10/02 version I was getting 1000-1300 fps. On the 11/02 version I get 100-130 fps. It's not a huge deal for me at this point since I'm not too much of a gamer and have no need to watch movies on my laptop. I just found it odd and thought you'd like to know . . . on behalf of those who possess the above interests. While I have noticed the following on undeadly but must have missed it on the mailing lists: Mesa 7.2 defaults to sync-to-vblank for intel chips in an attempt to avoid tearing in the display. In this mode, OpenGL drawing is synchronised to the refresh rate of your monitor and thus is capped at that rate. If for some reason this bothers you, you may circumvent this by either setting 'vblank_mode=0' in your environment or use driconf (in ports) to configure this option. Might be relevant. http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=articlesid=20081104235706mode=expandedcount=4 // nick
Re: Remote Admin Card - Dell DRAC or HP ILO2 ?
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:36:58 -0500 Steve Shockley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe Warren-Meeks wrote: I thought you only needed the license if you used higher resolutions than a basic console. If you are just using text mode on the console, then they work excellently. ILO2 can't do KVM at all without the Advanced license, but I think ssh still works. They also have a lesser license (ILO Select maybe?) that has a smaller set of features for less cost. On most big DLs you need the advanced license for kvm media, ssh serial are always included. For blades you get kvm media for free. // nick
Re: Remote Admin Card - Dell DRAC or HP ILO2 ?
On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:01:21 +0100 Xavier Millihs-Lacroix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who wins in the OpenBSD world? DRAC (Dell Remote Admin Card) or iLo (HP's Integrated Lights Out) (or better ilo2) ? We're looking at new servers and are wondering if these are worth the cash, or which is the one to go for ? I see some problem with ILO2 on HP DL320 G5 (/G5p ?). We need to be able to do 'quite' everything remotely (from installing (virtual floppy / cd / dvd) to exploitation). I don't really see how this is related to openbsd, but ilo2 wins hands down to drac, but has a costly advanced license. Installing openbsd through ilo2 virtual cd works just fine btw. // nick
Re: need people to test this patch with acpi
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:44:02 -0600 Marco Peereboom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please test this on all acpi capable machines and send me a dmesg if you see this in the dmesg: store from field!! Is this in any recent snapshots or source only? And I have the same question for the tech@ email with subject: Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: acpicpu needs wide testing] thx // nick
Re: Flash drives (was: Re: help needed with laptop hdd)
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:20:49 +0200 Maurice Janssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday, September 20, 2007 at 19:02:23 +, Christian Weisgerber wrote: I need to look at the options for fitting a compact flash as an ATA drive into a normal PC. There are lot's of adapters. Some examples can be found here: http://www.pcengines.ch/cflash.htm I have 2 of those CFDISK.5H ones, works like a champ wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: CF Card wd0: 1-sector PIO, LBA, 983MB, 2014992 sectors wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2 wd0 at pciide1 channel 0 drive 0: Corsair 40x CompactFlash v1.1 wd0: 1-sector PIO, LBA, 249MB, 510976 sectors wd0(pciide1:0:0): using PIO mode 4 // nick
nfs data corruption
Heya, It seems I'm experiencing some data corruption on nfs when -w or -r aren't powers of 2. I have a local file with these settings: % md5 sunclock.diff MD5 (sunclock.diff) = 9f002849da08cd6ab76032a8cf2726e1 now, if I export the filesystem (nfsd -tu -n 4) it's on I get data corruption when I try to use a readsize or writesize that's not a power of 2: % mount_nfs -3 -T spectre:/home /mnt % md5 /mnt/inphobia/sunclock.diff MD5 (/mnt/inphobia/sunclock.diff) = 9f002849da08cd6ab76032a8cf2726e1 % umount /mnt % mount_nfs -3 -T -r 32768 -w 32768 spectre:/home /mnt % md5 /mnt/inphobia/sunclock.diff MD5 (/mnt/inphobia/sunclock.diff) = 9f002849da08cd6ab76032a8cf2726e1 % umount /mnt % mount_nfs -3 -T -r 32000 -w 32000 spectre:/home /mnt % md5 /mnt/inphobia/sunclock.diff MD5 (/mnt/inphobia/sunclock.diff) = d9bfc86665d9619e19c2a317f12b0c09 % umount /mnt % mount_nfs -3 -U -r 32000 -w 32000 spectre:/home /mnt % md5 /mnt/inphobia/sunclock.diff MD5 (/mnt/inphobia/sunclock.diff) = d9bfc86665d9619e19c2a317f12b0c09 % umount /mnt The nfs client is i386 -current, the server is i386 4.0 stable. Yes, the manual page says I should use a power of 2 greater than or equal to 1024, but perhaps it could warn that if I don't my data will get corrupted? Or perhaps have mount_nfs refuse mounts with an incorrect read/writesize - sane defaults? And the background of this: I was lazy and just wanted to do a mount -r 32k -w 32k, but since that is refused I was lazy again and just mounted with -r 32000 -w 32000, which makes the actual mount show up as: spectre:/home on /mnt type nfs (v3, udp, wsize=31744, rsize=31744, rdirsize=31744, timeo=100) Ohw, and it's not just md5 that fails. While the contents of text files look sane, I actually stumbled upon this while trying to recode a flac file to an mp3. Mounting with wrong readsizes caused flac to spew out errors, after remounting with correct sizes it worked fine. // nick
Re: OpenBSD speed on desktops
On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 22:06:43 +0100 Joachim Schipper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since prebind has already been explained in detail, I want to add that does indeed work, but if you use it on your ports it will invalidate all of the hashes used by pkg_add (which is most likely one of the issues theo mentioned). With prebinding my firefox starts in 4 seconds or so, half of what it needs without prebinding. Another aspect is that Linux is much more aggressive in caching data from disk; if the amount of data read, the amount of work done in between, and the amount of RAM is such that Linux can get most data from its memory cache while OpenBSD has to read most of it from disk, Linux will be a *lot* faster. Of course, you would only see this effect if you started Firefox twice without doing much in between. We're all hoping for UBC to come back in a working form, but hopefully some are doing the actual work :) If your box has memory to spare it will infact load firefox a lot faster the second time, if it still has the libraries cached in memory. A fixed size of memory is reserved for filesystem caching. What linux does (and UBC) is remove this fixed limit and let you use all your memory for buffer cache when it's not mapped to another application. Both of those could explain why FF loads slower. If either of those is the big culprit, though, FF should run just as fast (slow) as it ever did, and since you're not likely to start it that often, I'd be inclined to say it isn't that big an issue. On last thing that might add to openbsd's startup overhead is the aggresive security stance. I don't know if library randomization has anything to do with it, but w^x propolice have been stated to give a 5% to 10% performance impact in certain cases. I've noticed this mostly in applications that map unmap a lot of memory. I'm using openbsd on my systems, desktops laptops included, since release 2.7. It might not be equal to a current linux kernel performance wise, but it's not lagging that much behind. I'll take the cleanness, easy of use stability any day over a 10% performance difference. And that's not even going into the free code debate, it's hard to get more free than openbsd. // nick
Re: OpenBSD speed on desktops
On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 10:03:37 -0700 Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh really, it has been stated. By who? Overall, I doubt that all of our security technologies add more than about 2% of a performance hit. Even a 'make build' on most architectures did not add that. I think you need to go back and read my slides again. Spreading lies about 5-10% performance hits is just not kind to our efforts. I've reread the slides again. I stand corrected when it comes to w^x propolice, but I'm still not in the clear when it comes to randomized malloc mmap. The slides from bsdcan 2004 state: still failry expensive, the slides from opencon 2005 no longer mention anything about performance. // nick
Re: apmd -f /dev/acpi?
On Sun, 4 Feb 2007 19:50:26 +0100 Pau Amaro-Seoane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just downloaded cd40.iso from ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots and installed openbsd on my laptop because I thought the kernel would be -current but when booting I tried bsd -c and then UKC enable acpi but nothing happened, so that I went to the site and downloaded bsd and bsd.mp, copied them to / with the names bsd.acpi and bsd.mp.acpi Then I rebooted (bsd.acpi -c and/or bsd.mp.acpi -c) and UKC said 385 acpi0 enabled and everything was looking fine (apart from the problem that I didn't get any dhcp offer?). With problems like these a dmesg will make people be more interested in your problem. Without that advice is most likely a best guess. // nick
Re: reduce power consump. laptop
On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 19:49:17 - (UTC) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: apm is not supported on my laptop and this means I cannot suspend etc. But I would like to know which things could be switched off or lowered, so that I can write a script and for instance I can go away from my laptop for half an hour or one hour and I don't have to turn it off totally and at the same time save battery. Say... something like lowering the cpu speed (though I am not sure I can do that if apm is not supported), blank screen and stop/reduce all cpu-hungry processes. Of course, the best would be to find a way to automatically launch the script when I close the lid of the laptop and then vice-versa; i.e. a script that wakes up everything back... What openbsd version are you running? On 4.0 almost none of the features of my laptop were supported, but on -current I'm hard pressed to find anything that doesn't. I've got apm support and est is working too. // nick
Re: reduce power consump. laptop
On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 21:16:03 - (UTC) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am using OpenBSD 4.0 as it was released some four months ago. Nice to hear what you're saying but I don't really understand something. From your words I've got the feeling that you say: before my laptop could not work with apm and now yes. I thought apm is a thing that is inherent to the laptop and not to the OS. Could you or somebody else shed a bit of light on this? Is there any hope that my laptop will have apm support in obsd 4.1 if it hasn't now? Newer laptops forgo legacy apm controls and rely an acpi for power management instead. In -current (after 4.0 was released) a massive amount of acpi code was imported which makes apm work through the acpi system calls. Chances are that your laptop will have much better apm support in openbsd 4.1 than it has right now. However, to be sure of that now is the time to help the devs test this new code. If you feel up to it you can always install a snapshot and see how this new code works for you. Should you give it a go, then don't forget to start your apmd with -f /dev/acpi. Good luck. // nick
Re: i just have to share this with you guys...
On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 11:00:59 -0700 (PDT) Joe Advisor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CPU0 states: 0.6% user, 0.0% nice, 3.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 96.4% idle CPU1 states: 0.2% user, 0.0% nice, 1.2% system, 0.0% interrupt, 98.6% idle CPU2 states: 0.2% user, 0.0% nice, 1.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 98.8% idle CPU3 states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 2.4% system, 0.0% interrupt, 97.6% idle CPU4 states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 100% idle CPU5 states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.6% system, 0.0% interrupt, 99.4% idle CPU6 states: 0.4% user, 0.0% nice, 0.2% system, 0.0% interrupt, 99.4% idle CPU7 states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 100% idle Memory: Real: 130M/640M act/tot Free: 3290M Swap: 0K/512M used/tot Nice, my 4 socket dual core opteron (hp bl45p) panics whenever I try to scp something to it. And because it doesn't have much in video hardware save java-web based stuff I can't even get a decent trace out of it. // nick
Re: RAIDframe stability and reliability
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 15:30:10 -0700 David Wilk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know RAIDframe is not in GENERIC, but I was wondering if anyone could speak to the stability and reliability of RAIDframe in 3.8. I find myself really wanting to use software RAID 1 and haven't had any problems in testing thus far. Any experiences would be good to hear. It has been good for me thus far, but you'll need a patched kernel (just cvs update the patch branch and rebuild). Running raid 0/1/5, on 5 disks. First part of the disk is either raid 0 (/tmp) or raid 1 (/var), the rest is a raid 5 (/home). // nick
Re: OT: event driven processing
On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 18:44:53 +1100 Damien Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i am in need to write event driven processing applications. I must avoid sequential processing. I will be mixing RPC queries and dns ones. I saw, at the first sigh, writing non batch program is very hard to accomplish. So i wonder how openbsd manages when there are n process, for instance, waiting on a file descriptor for readability/writeabilitiy simultaneously? How does it notify the readable/writeable status to each of the process doing poll/select? You could start by reading the poll(2) and select(2) manpages. This is pretty basic stuff. Alternately you could use libevent, see event(3). Or if it doesn't have to be in C, you can use something like twisted for python or poe for perl. // nick
Re: IBM xSeries 336 - atapiscsi/pciide bug
On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 16:22:53 +1300 Stephen Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for your prompt reply. I misunderstood you last time, I thought you were suggesting that one of the drives was defective. I tried swapping the CDROM, but the x336 are 1U rackmounted servers, and they use custom IDE cables. As I don't have access to any other IBM rackmounted servers, I don't have any other devices to swap in. I could order another drive from IBM, but as I know this problem exists for others I think it's unlikely that this is the source and I don't think that it's worth the cost. It's been a while since I last opened up one of our x336's (don't like them, x335s are much more stable in my experience), I thought they had a standard IDE port somewhere on the motherboard next to the PSU. Perhaps you can give that one a shot. // nick
Re: Intel 6300ESB SATA
On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 10:25:07 -0600 Sibastien Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do have one question about the following lines though: dkcsum: wd0 matches BIOS drive 0x80 wd1: no disk label dkcsum: wd1 matches BIOS drive 0x81 dkcsum: wd1 matches BIOS drive 0x82 IGNORED wd2: no disk label dkcsum: wd2 matches BIOS drive 0x81 IGNORED dkcsum: wd2 matches BIOS drive 0x82 root on wd0a I was those as well when I added 4 new drives to my system. I my case the drives were brand new and had no data on them, after I fdisk'ed disklabel'ed them the warning was gone. So I guess it's related to some kind of checksum in the MBR or the partition table or something. I figure if you dd the the first few sectors from one raw hdd device to another you might get this as well, not sure though. They do seem to work right now, but should this be a cause for concern? Might wd1 come up as wd2 and vice versa under some conditions? Not if you don't touch anything. Changing kernel parameters with either config or on the boot prompt might result in that. Moving the drives to different channels or adding/removing drives can cause them to move as well. If you really don't want that you can hardcode wd* drives to pciide* locations. // nick
Re: Large partition
On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 11:42:45 +0200 (CEST) Beck Zoltan Gyula [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to ask if it is possible to use a large, more than 2T diskarray or CCD? In FAQ: 14.7 - What are the issues regarding large drives with OpenBSD? OpenBSD supports an individual file system of up to 231-1, or 2,147,483,647 sectors, and as each sector is 512 bytes, that's a tiny amount less than 1T. I might be wrong, it's been a while. But if I'm not mistaken I did successfully mount a 5TB partition over nfs from a netapp unit. If that's the storage you require, you might be more interested in those units (with an added bonus that they come up in less than a minute after an unclean shutdown). And if you really want the maximum size for partitions on OpenBSD (just under 1TB), then don't forget to read up on fsck memory usage. // nick
can't get raidframe device to work
Hello, I'm having some issues getting raidframe to work for me. I've got 6 harddisks in my machine, of which I use 4 for raid: wd2 - wd5. On each harddisk I've set up 1 partition with fdisk, and the created 2 diskslices with disklabel, both which have type RAID. Then I've set up device raid0, which is a raid0 of wd2d wd3d, and is set up for autoconfigure. After that I've set up device raid1, which is a raid1 of wd4d wd5d, also set to autoconfigure. Both these raid device work fine and start at boot. With the remaining diskspace on those drives I set up a slice 'e', bundled together in a raid5 without autoconfigure. Configuring, adding a serial and writing parity all goes fine. Adding a disklabel as per raidctl(8) isn't an issue either, but when I try to newfs the filesystem I get: newfs: /dev/rraid2a: Device not configured Any clues as to why? The other raid partitions were created in the same way, but have autoconfigure on. I've already tried recreating the device nodes with MAKEDEV raid2, but that didn't do any good. I've got a 3.8 i386 kernel build from source (on another host, this was a binary upgrade) with: options RAID_AUTOCONFIG pseudo-device raid4 the rest is generic. Thanks. // nick disklabel, fdisk (layout is identical for all 4 disks), raid2.conf dmesg follow: disklabel wd2 # Inside MBR partition 0: type A6 start 63 size 488392002 # /dev/rwd2c: type: ESDI disk: ESDI/IDE disk label: ST3250823AS flags: bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 63 tracks/cylinder: 16 sectors/cylinder: 1008 cylinders: 16383 total sectors: 488397168 rpm: 3600 interleave: 1 trackskew: 0 cylinderskew: 0 headswitch: 0 # microseconds track-to-track seek: 0 # microseconds drivedata: 0 fdisk wd2 16 partitions: # sizeoffset fstype [fsize bsize cpg] c: 488397168 0 unused 0 0 # Cyl 0 -484520 d: 209758563RAID # Cyl 0*- 2080 e: 4194288 2097648RAID # Cyl 2081 - 6241 Disk: wd2 geometry: 30401/255/63 [488392065 Sectors] Offset: 0 Signature: 0x0 Starting Ending LBA Info: #: idC H S -C H S [ start: size ] 0: A60 1 1 - 30400 254 63 [ 63: 488392002 ] OpenBSD 1: 000 0 0 -0 0 0 [ 0: 0 ] unused 2: 000 0 0 -0 0 0 [ 0: 0 ] unused 3: 000 0 0 -0 0 0 [ 0: 0 ] unused /etc/raid2.conf START array # numRow numCol numSpare 1 4 0 START disks /dev/wd2e /dev/wd3e /dev/wd4e /dev/wd5e START layout # sectPerSU SUsPerParityUnit SUsPerReconUnit RAID_level_5 64 1 1 5 START queue fifo 100 disklabel raid2 # /dev/rraid2c: type: RAID disk: raid label: fictitious flags: bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 192 tracks/cylinder: 16 sectors/cylinder: 3072 cylinders: 474896 total sectors: 1458883008 rpm: 3600 interleave: 1 trackskew: 0 cylinderskew: 0 headswitch: 0 # microseconds track-to-track seek: 0 # microseconds drivedata: 0 16 partitions: # sizeoffset fstype [fsize bsize cpg] a: 2097472 0 unused 2048 16384 # Cyl 0 - 682* c: 2097472 0 unused 0 0 # Cyl 0 - 682* dmesg penBSD 3.8 (SPECTRE) #0: Sun Oct 16 17:13:48 CEST 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/SPECTRE cpu0: AMD Duron(tm) Processor (AuthenticAMD 686-class, 64KB L2 cache) 896 MHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX, FXSR real mem = 536453120 (523880K) avail mem = 482168832 (470868K) using 4278 buffers containing 26927104 bytes (26296K) of memory mainbus0 (root) bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(00) BIOS, date 10/29/02, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfdae0 apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2 apm0: AC on, no battery apm0: flags 30102 dobusy 0 doidle 1 pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0x1 pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xf7950/160 (8 entries) pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:02:0 (SIS 85C503 System rev 0x00) pcibios0: PCI bus #1 is the last bus bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x8000 0xc8000/0x2400 0xca800/0x8000 cpu0 at mainbus0 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 SIS 735 PCI rev 0x01 ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 SIS 86C201 AGP rev 0x00 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 pcib0 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 SIS 85C503 System rev 0x00 ohci0 at pci0 dev 2 function 2 SIS 5597/5598 USB rev 0x07: irq 5, version 1.0, legacy support usb0 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0 at usb0 uhub0: SIS OHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered ohci1 at pci0 dev 2 function 3 SIS 5597/5598 USB rev 0x07: irq 10, version 1.0, legacy support usb1 at ohci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1 uhub1: SIS OHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
Re: can't get raidframe device to work
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 20:39:50 +0200 (CEST) Otto Moerbeek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 18 Oct 2005, Nick Nauwelaerts wrote: newfs: /dev/rraid2a: Device not configured [snip] 16 partitions: # sizeoffset fstype [fsize bsize cpg] a: 2097472 0 unused 2048 16384 # Cyl 0 - 682* c: 2097472 0 unused 0 0 # Cyl 0 - 682* The type of your a partition is unused. Should be 4.2BSD. Run diskabel raid2, use the c command to change the type. Jeez, how could I've missed that. Back to bigger partitions now. Thanks! // nick
Re: phonecall with Promise
On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 10:09:01 -0700 Bryan Irvine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My first question is this, is everyone at Promise incompetent? My second question is, does anyone know what card I can use with SATA 150 drives? I've got a 4 port Silicon Image 3114 card coming, which should be supported. And at 64euro it's cheap as well. Newer intel nvidia motherboards come with 4 integrated and supported ports as well and plenty of southbridge bandwidth to boost, but those aren't add-ins ofcourse. http://www.dawicontrol.de/english/html/raid154.htm // nick
-current with ath and 802.11g
Hello, I'm having some issues connecting to 802.11g wireless networks with a somewhat recent snapshot. I've got a linksys WAP54G access point v2, running firmware release 2.08. With the access point completely open (ssid broadcast, no mac filters), OpenBSD will only connect to it in 802.11b mode. When I place the access point in 802.11g only mode or ifconfig my ath with mode 802.11g I get no network. After searching a bit I've seen others who have the same problem, but I didn't find a dmesg to find out on what hardware or release they were running. Issues that might be related is that I'm seeing a lot of HAL resets when I run kismet. In 3.7 release I didn't get 802.11b to work either, but that seems to have been worked out. Any clues on this? // nick Here's the ifconfig dmesg: ath0: flags=8863UP,BROADCAST,NOTRAILERS,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 lladdr 00:0d:54:98:d9:70 groups: egress media: IEEE802.11 autoselect (DS11 mode 11b) status: active ieee80211: nwid whynot chan 11 bssid 00:0f:66:11:09:39 inet 192.168.240.3 netmask 0xfff8 broadcast 192.168.240.7 inet6 fe80::20d:54ff:fe98:d970%ath0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5 OpenBSD 3.7-current (GENERIC) #0: Sat Aug 6 12:48:03 CEST 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Intel Pentium III (GenuineIntel 686-class) 699 MHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX, FXSR,SSE real mem = 133709824 (130576K) avail mem = 115425280 (112720K) using 1657 buffers containing 6787072 bytes (6628K) of memory mainbus0 (root) bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(00) BIOS, date 07/02/02, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xffe90 apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2 apm0: battery life expectancy 100% apm0: AC on, battery charge high, charging, estimated 7:58 hours apm0: flags 30102 dobusy 0 doidle 1 pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0x1 pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfbc20/192 (10 entries) pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:31:0 (Intel 82371 ISA and IDE rev 0x00) pcibios0: PCI bus #4 is the last bus bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x1 cpu0 at mainbus0 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82815 Hub rev 0x02 ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 Intel 82815 AGP rev 0x02 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 ATI Rage 128 Mobility MF rev 0x00 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) ppb1 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BAM Hub-to-PCI rev 0x03 pci2 at ppb1 bus 2 esa0 at pci2 dev 3 function 0 ESS Maestro 3 rev 0x10: irq 5 ac97: codec id 0x83847609 (SigmaTel STAC9721/23) ac97: codec features 18 bit DAC, 18 bit ADC, SigmaTel 3D audio0 at esa0 cbb0 at pci2 dev 15 function 0 Texas Instruments PCI4451 CardBus rev 0x00: irq 10 cbb1 at pci2 dev 15 function 1 Texas Instruments PCI4451 CardBus rev 0x00: irq 10 Texas Instruments PCI4451 FireWire rev 0x00 at pci2 dev 15 function 2 not configured cardslot0 at cbb0 slot 0 flags 0 cardbus0 at cardslot0: bus 3 device 0 cacheline 0x8, lattimer 0x20 pcmcia0 at cardslot0 cardslot1 at cbb1 slot 1 flags 0 cardbus1 at cardslot1: bus 4 device 0 cacheline 0x8, lattimer 0x20 pcmcia1 at cardslot1 ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel 82801BAM LPC rev 0x03 pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 1 Intel 82801BAM IDE rev 0x03: DMA, channel 0 wired to compatibility, channel 1 wired to compatibility wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: IBM-DJSA-210 wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 9590MB, 19640880 sectors atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 1 scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: TEAC, CD-224E, 3.7C SCSI0 5/cdrom removable wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 4 cd0(pciide0:0:1): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2 pciide0: channel 1 ignored (disabled) uhci0 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 Intel 82801BA USB rev 0x03: irq 10 usb0 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0 at usb0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered isa0 at ichpcib0 isadma0 at isa0 pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 pms0 at pckbc0 (aux slot) pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot wsmouse0 at pms0 mux 0 pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61 midi0 at pcppi0: PC speaker spkr0 at pcppi0 sysbeep0 at pcppi0 npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: using exception 16 pccom0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0/6 irq 6 drq 2 biomask efcd netmask efcd ttymask ffcf pctr: 686-class user-level performance counters enabled mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support ath0 at cardbus0 dev 0 function 0 3Com Corp., 3CRPAG175 Wireless LAN PC Card, : irq 10 ath0: AR5212 5.6 phy 4.1 rf5111 1.7 rf2111 2.3, WOR0W, address 00:0d:54:98:d9:70 uhidev0 at uhub0 port 1 configuration 1 interface 0 uhidev0: Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse, rev 2.00/13.00, addr 2, iclass 3/1 ums0 at uhidev0: 4 buttons and Z
