@ e4ea
Hi, I am interested in the script mentioned here by e4ea http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=articlesid=2007120707mode=expanded who of you is e4ea? I would like to have a look at the script you talk about but unfortunately the person who uploaded it to pastebin chose one month and now it's gone. I would appreciate if e4ea would send it to me. Cheers, Pau
Re: PC Camera?
who cares about web cams? What's so important in looking at a pixeled, almost-static face? I have still not understood what they are good for. I do understand what pf good for is. I do understand what a public, anonymous CVS server good for is I do understand what security and code auditing good for are I do understand how important it is for me that things do not break Do not distract the developers. If you want webcam support, or skype or things like that run windows or linux (almost synonims nowadays, unfortunately). Or write the applications by yourself. 23 Mar 2008 16:56:16 -0700, Unix Fan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There is a USB standard for USB Cameras among other video devices... It's called USB Video Device Class. The specific is available to download... if anyone feels brave enough to write a driver for UVC class devices... ;) @Sunnz, Unsupported USB devices always attach to ugen, read the manual page then you'll realize how silly you are.. ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_video_device_class This seems to be a driver for: OpenSolaris: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/device_drivers/projects/usb/uvc/ Linux: http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/ Mac OSX.. Microsoft's Vista - Which seems to require all vendors implement the standard.. ...And Sony's Playstation 3. So who's working on OpenBSD's implementation? get busy!! :D :D :D -Nix Fan.
Re: PC Camera?
Your response was both rude and non-productive and contributed nothing to the discussion accept an arrogant antiquated attitude. Your lame attempt to describe why adding such a driver would be a security risk was best a terse flimflam shot from the hip in response to a good question. No one asked you to like it or about your cockhammer notion of what should or shouldn't be done on the OS. I think you don't understand what obsd is about Write the application yourself is a good start though I will agree with that, that's kind of what they were discussing in the thread untill you tried to mute it with your red-harring argument which basically says OBSD should be some sort of survial kit for animals in the wilderness, take only what you need to survive and make sure you bring your book on which plantlife to eat in south america. quite, you must be really desperate to be so aggressive And by the way if you have ever used a webcam now days they are no longer pixilated... You must still be living in 1998. Of course you are a real computer user and real computer users don't need webcams because they only need packet filter, cvs, and code auditing. OBSD also has a role as a desktop system I have had peecees with linux STOP I have had a mac STOP I gave it back STOP I am exclusively (as in no linux, no windows) using obsd as a desktop on a laptop STOP webcams are as useful as automatic chewing-gum machines FULL STOP Before you carry on making use of the two adjectives you know (lame and rude), please be so kind as to pretend that you do not exist. Pau -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pau Amaro-Seoane Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 1:52 PM To: Unix Fan Cc: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: PC Camera? who cares about web cams? What's so important in looking at a pixeled, almost-static face? I have still not understood what they are good for. I do understand what pf good for is. I do understand what a public, anonymous CVS server good for is I do understand what security and code auditing good for are I do understand how important it is for me that things do not break Do not distract the developers. If you want webcam support, or skype or things like that run windows or linux (almost synonims nowadays, unfortunately). Or write the applications by yourself. 23 Mar 2008 16:56:16 -0700, Unix Fan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There is a USB standard for USB Cameras among other video devices... It's called USB Video Device Class. The specific is available to download... if anyone feels brave enough to write a driver for UVC class devices... ;) @Sunnz, Unsupported USB devices always attach to ugen, read the manual page then you'll realize how silly you are.. ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_video_device_class This seems to be a driver for: OpenSolaris: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/device_drivers/projects/usb/uv c/ Linux: http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/ Mac OSX.. Microsoft's Vista - Which seems to require all vendors implement the standard.. ...And Sony's Playstation 3. So who's working on OpenBSD's implementation? get busy!! :D :D :D -Nix Fan.
Re: PC Camera?
ok, I have to apologise. I don't mean to be unpolite but, please understand me: I don't think there exists another OS as OpenBSD. It's unique. I am afraid that the more popular it will become, the more thingies new users will ask for. And complication leads to... well, see linux and other OS. That's why I got so nervous when I saw people asking for webcam support. I love OpenBSD because it is exactly what I would like to see from an OS. And I think there are many other things that need support, like ACPI. It's not trivial and it's only partially supported by other OS. That's all. Sorry about that and... cheers Pau 2008/3/24, Pau Amaro-Seoane [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Your response was both rude and non-productive and contributed nothing to the discussion accept an arrogant antiquated attitude. Your lame attempt to describe why adding such a driver would be a security risk was best a terse flimflam shot from the hip in response to a good question. No one asked you to like it or about your cockhammer notion of what should or shouldn't be done on the OS. I think you don't understand what obsd is about Write the application yourself is a good start though I will agree with that, that's kind of what they were discussing in the thread untill you tried to mute it with your red-harring argument which basically says OBSD should be some sort of survial kit for animals in the wilderness, take only what you need to survive and make sure you bring your book on which plantlife to eat in south america. quite, you must be really desperate to be so aggressive And by the way if you have ever used a webcam now days they are no longer pixilated... You must still be living in 1998. Of course you are a real computer user and real computer users don't need webcams because they only need packet filter, cvs, and code auditing. OBSD also has a role as a desktop system I have had peecees with linux STOP I have had a mac STOP I gave it back STOP I am exclusively (as in no linux, no windows) using obsd as a desktop on a laptop STOP webcams are as useful as automatic chewing-gum machines FULL STOP Before you carry on making use of the two adjectives you know (lame and rude), please be so kind as to pretend that you do not exist. Pau -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pau Amaro-Seoane Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 1:52 PM To: Unix Fan Cc: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: PC Camera? who cares about web cams? What's so important in looking at a pixeled, almost-static face? I have still not understood what they are good for. I do understand what pf good for is. I do understand what a public, anonymous CVS server good for is I do understand what security and code auditing good for are I do understand how important it is for me that things do not break Do not distract the developers. If you want webcam support, or skype or things like that run windows or linux (almost synonims nowadays, unfortunately). Or write the applications by yourself. 23 Mar 2008 16:56:16 -0700, Unix Fan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There is a USB standard for USB Cameras among other video devices... It's called USB Video Device Class. The specific is available to download... if anyone feels brave enough to write a driver for UVC class devices... ;) @Sunnz, Unsupported USB devices always attach to ugen, read the manual page then you'll realize how silly you are.. ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_video_device_class This seems to be a driver for: OpenSolaris: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/device_drivers/projects/usb/uv c/ Linux: http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/ Mac OSX.. Microsoft's Vista - Which seems to require all vendors implement the standard.. ...And Sony's Playstation 3. So who's working on OpenBSD's implementation? get busy!! :D :D :D -Nix Fan.
Re: using openbsd to make presentations
ConTeXt is looking *very* nice. Nevertheless I do not find the sources for the many pdf examples of pragma... in the wiki you point at, there's written: --- If you're interested in presentations, your first stop should be the pragma website. You can download pdfs with the documented source-code of 18 presentation modules at http://www.pragma-ade.com/dir/general/sources/ --- still, I do not find any tex file there... are they hidden or am I blind? documented source-code is what I would like to see... 2008/3/20, Edd [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 05:45:26PM -0700, Predrag Punosevac wrote: As far as I know TeXLive will be regular package (you will not need to use ports) starting OpenBSD 4.3. This is only second Unix like system after Debian to have fully functional TeXLive thanks to Edd Baret porter of TeXLive for OpenBSD. On the last note I recommend that you install full TeXLive which is about 1Gb but includes all TeX/Latex features coded at the moment. I am not sure if the TeXLive base includes Powerdot. I would guess yes. Also can I add that the ConTeXt typesetter is available in TeXLive, which claims to do presentations too, although I have never tried it. ConTeXt puts more emphasis on page layout than any previous TeX compiler. To me it feels like arranging a HTML page using CSS. Also I there will be binary packages for 4.3, maybe even on the cdrom, I dont know. You can get binary packages for -current on the ftp servers, and I have backported to 4.2 for people who wish to use TeXLive on 4.2 , although the packages were made before Predrag found the powerdot bug. The fix is simple, see the patch on your ports tree: /usr/ports/print/texlive/texmf-minimal/patches/patch-texmf_dvips_config_config_ps (basically overwrite the old config.ps with the svn one) 4.2 packages for i386 and sparc64 here: http://students.dec.bmth.ac.uk/ebarrett/texlive/3rd/4.2 A good starting point for links to docs and examples for ConTeXt is: http://wiki.contextgarden.net Also my battery has died on my laptop (Thinkpad R50e), which I used to use for on the go TeXLive hackage. At the risk of sounding rude, can anyone make a donation or tell me to shut up atleast as I am not a developer with an @openbsd email address. Thats right, Im playing the student trumph card :) -- Best Regards Edd http://students.dec.bmth.ac.uk/ebarrett
Re: using openbsd to make presentations
Hi, yes, I also thought of something similar, but the result is that gs produces slides which are not smooth, i.e. you can almost see the pixels. You can increase the resolution but this makes also the slides heavier and then you run into the same snag... Thanks Pau 2008/3/19, Alexandre Ratchov [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 10:18:30PM +0100, Pau Amaro-Seoane wrote: Hi, very often I have to give a talk about my work etc... The slides contain a lot of math equations, plots and even sometimes some movies. I was used to latex-beamer to do all this because I want something I can edit with vi(m) and it fulfilled all requisites ... and I was used to it when I was using linux. I have switched to OpenBSD since some 1.5 years and I am very happy to report here, by the way, that OpenBSD _does_ start X on the projector where most linux peecees and macs fail :) BUT -and this is the main reason to write now- the pdf slides created with latex-beamer feel heavy... What I mean is that when using full screen (with xpdf or kpdf etc) it takes some 3-4 seconds to change a slide. I don't know why... I can provide you with a test talk, so that you udnerstand what I mean. This is very bad when somebody in the public asks a question of plot number 2 in slide #3 and you're in slide #55. Sure there are ways to overcome the problem, with the progress bar of latex-beamer, for instance, but still I don't like it. I just want to ask here in misc whether somebody has had the same problem and what other alternatives there are. yes i've the same problem, i've been using latex-beamer on a slow machine. To speedup the display, i converted the whole presentation to pnm images (one image per slide) and then made my presentation using graphics/qiv port. For instance, to generate the pnm files: gs -r248 -sDEVICE=pnmraw -sOutputFile=%d.ppm -dTextAlphaBits=4 \ -dGraphicsAlphaBits=4 -dNOPAUSE doc.ps -c quit for i in ?.ppm; do mv $i 0$i done then to display them: qiv -f -i ??.ppm using space and backspace keys you can switch between slides very quickly even on a slow machine. Furthermore you can skip 5 slides using page-up and page-down keys, which is very handy when somebody asks you to go a particular slide. hth, -- Alexandre
Re: using openbsd to make presentations
Hi Predrag, I am mostly interested in the speed... do you have an example that I can see (send privately to me)? You say also that it's easy to add movies to the slides, can you embed them, actually? This would be very interesting. Pau 2008/3/19, Predrag Punosevac [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Pau Amaro-Seoane wrote: Hi, very often I have to give a talk about my work etc... The slides contain a lot of math equations, plots and even sometimes some movies. I was used to latex-beamer to do all this because I want something I can edit with vi(m) and it fulfilled all requisites ... and I was used to it when I was using linux. I have switched to OpenBSD since some 1.5 years and I am very happy to report here, by the way, that OpenBSD _does_ start X on the projector where most linux peecees and macs fail :) BUT -and this is the main reason to write now- the pdf slides created with latex-beamer feel heavy... What I mean is that when using full screen (with xpdf or kpdf etc) it takes some 3-4 seconds to change a slide. I don't know why... I can provide you with a test talk, so that you udnerstand what I mean. This is very bad when somebody in the public asks a question of plot number 2 in slide #3 and you're in slide #55. Sure there are ways to overcome the problem, with the progress bar of latex-beamer, for instance, but still I don't like it. I just want to ask here in misc whether somebody has had the same problem and what other alternatives there are. I have noticed that a lot of people are using magicpoint out there. I had a look at it, but it seems not obvious to use when it comes to latex. As far as i know, there are these two possibilities: http://www.sonycsl.co.jp/person/nishida/mgp-users/msg00241.html http://www.sonycsl.co.jp/person/nishida/mgp-users/msg00290.html I have made some tests and I could not use all latex commands... I run into a snag in a number of occasions. Question: Do you have any recommendation / suggestion to prepare talks to be shown in a projector including mathematical equations, plots and, eventually, movies (I can live without this last point)? I am a mathematician so I am quite often in the same position as you to give presentations which contain lots of formulas and images. I use Powerdot class of Latex presentations (descendant of Prosper an obsolete class of presentations ) which is as an alternative to the Beamer class. For the comprehensive review of all classes of presentations for latex you may check http://texcatalogue.sarovar.org/bytopic.html#present The advantages over Powerdot over Beamer are numerous. Powerdot is far easier (has only 60 man pages v.s. Beamer man pages are over 400 pages). It is also very simple to incorporate movies into your slides. The slides are easily customized and in my point of view far more beautiful than the Beamer. The popularity of Beamer seems comes from the fact that you can use pdflatex to produce pdf slides. That is not possible with Powerdot as it uses some PostScript tricks. So you will have to latex slides followed by dvips and ps2pdf or dvipdfm to produce pdf slides. The ultimate goal of course is to produce pdf slides. I noticed that one has to use Adobe Reader (I prefer Xpdf as well) which is only available from ports due to the license issues in order to have alive links on slides. That seems to be built in feature ( I would call it bug) which should be communicated probably up stream. The slides are very responsive. I personally have not seen better looking slides on any platform and I think I have seen it all. Powerdot class of presentations is part of TeXLive but not the part of teTeX. As you know teTeX is dead for about three years now and the TeXLive is official TeX distribution for Unix maintained by TeX community. TeXLive is available only from ports for OpenBSD 4.2. However you will have to use port for 4.3 current (soon to be release) as I stumbled upon a bug in Powerdot class of presentation. The bug was in TeXLive source code and was well documented. It is already fixed by port maintainer for OpenBSD 4.3. As far as I know TeXLive will be regular package (you will not need to use ports) starting OpenBSD 4.3. This is only second Unix like system after Debian to have fully functional TeXLive thanks to Edd Baret porter of TeXLive for OpenBSD. On the last note I recommend that you install full TeXLive which is about 1Gb but includes all TeX/Latex features coded at the moment. I am not sure if the TeXLive base includes Powerdot. I would guess yes. Most Kind Regards, Predrag Punosevac Thanks, Pau
Re: using openbsd to make presentations
Nice to see that such a thing exists... I was thinking of doing something similar by myself... nevertheless the installer of mathml seems to be a bit lame and I am a bit worried about the portability of the final file. Sometimes, as you know, you are asked to not plug in your laptop, so that speakers do not waste time trying to configure X and in those cases they ask you for a pdf (or even ppt, buerk!) file which they will copy over to the conference laptop... Otherwise it seems indeed a very nice idea. 2008/3/19, Matthew Szudzik [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Question: Do you have any recommendation / suggestion to prepare talks to be shown in a projector including mathematical equations, plots and, eventually, movies (I can live without this last point)? HTML is probably the most portable solution for your problem, and movies would work fine too (using VLC's Mozilla plug-in). Graphics display quickly and Firefox has MathML for displaying equations, but special fonts are required, and I'm unsure if anyone has ever tried to install them on OpenBSD (I certainly haven't). An example of MathML used in HTML is at http://pear.math.pitt.edu/mathzilla/Examples/markupOftheWeek.mhtml Personally, I use Mathematica on my OpenBSD laptop--it has a nice presentation mode and renders equations beautifully. Of course, it's proprietary software that costs money, so it's not for everyone.
Re: using openbsd to make presentations
movie15... yes, I know it from latex-beamer... it's (was?) crap It will only embed movies under acroread AND windows... and asks for very recent pdflatex versions... at least this was the case one year ago, when I gave it a chance last time... evince, on the other hand, is not displaying perfectly the beamer layout and I don't know how to tell evince that it must use xine to reproduce the linked movies of my pdf talks... kpdf is more intelligent but as slow as a Spanish bureaucrat... For now latex-beamer + apm -H + evince seems to be the winner combination in my case 2008/3/19, Predrag Punosevac [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In the next couple sentences I will try to answer some of the questions you guys asked me about powerdot class of latex presentations. 1. Yes it is easier to learn than the Beamer but if know Beamer and it works for you maybe you should stick to your guns. This is the link to documentation and the source file for powerdot http://texcatalogue.sarovar.org/entries/powerdot.html I want to reiterate that is very easy to customize slides unlike Beamer although you can see in the documentation that the package comes with about 20 different layouts and many more different color patterns. Trying to install manually on the top of teTeX will probably fail due to the fact that teTeX uses some outdated fonts. I tired in the past. It is not worthy as TeXLive in current ports three is rock solid. 2. There were many questions about Movies. Yes, It is possible to embed movies into the slides. Please follow the link http://tug.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/movie15/ The following link contains also extensive discussion of movie15 package and some examples http://www.uoregon.edu/~noeckel/PDFmovie.html Cheers, Predrag Girish Venkatachalam wrote: On 17:45:26 Mar 18, Predrag Punosevac wrote: I am a mathematician so I am quite often in the same position as you to give presentations which contain lots of formulas and images. I use Powerdot class of Latex presentations (descendant of Prosper an obsolete class of presentations ) which is as an alternative to the Beamer class. For the comprehensive review of all classes of presentations for latex you may check http://texcatalogue.sarovar.org/bytopic.html#present The advantages over Powerdot over Beamer are numerous. Powerdot is far easier (has only 60 man pages v.s. Beamer man pages are over 400 pages). It is also very simple to incorporate movies into your slides. The slides are easily customized and in my point of view far more beautiful than the Beamer. That will be really cool. ;) I love beauty both in women and in my work. ;) What about movies? The popularity of Beamer seems comes from the fact that you can use pdflatex to produce pdf slides. That is not possible with Powerdot as it uses some PostScript tricks. So you will have to latex slides followed by dvips and ps2pdf or dvipdfm to produce pdf slides. The ultimate goal of course is to produce pdf slides. That is no problem at all. I noticed that one has to use Adobe Reader (I prefer Xpdf as well) which is only available from ports due to the license issues in order to have alive links on slides. That seems to be built in feature ( I would call it bug) which should be communicated probably up stream. The slides are very responsive. I personally have not seen better looking slides on any platform and I think I have seen it all. Powerdot class of presentations is part of TeXLive but not the part of teTeX. As you know teTeX is dead for about three years now and the TeXLive is official TeX distribution for Unix maintained by TeX community. TeXLive is available only from ports for OpenBSD 4.2. However you will have to use port for 4.3 current (soon to be release) as I stumbled upon a bug in Powerdot class of presentation. The bug was in TeXLive source code and was well documented. It is already fixed by port maintainer for OpenBSD 4.3. As far as I know TeXLive will be regular package (you will not need to use ports) starting OpenBSD 4.3. This is only second Unix like system after Debian to have fully functional TeXLive thanks to Edd Baret porter of TeXLive for OpenBSD. On the last note I recommend that you install full TeXLive which is about 1Gb but includes all TeX/Latex features coded at the moment. I am not sure if the TeXLive base includes Powerdot. I would guess yes. I don't mind waiting till May 1. It is much better than Beamer? Do I have to go thro' the same learning curve? Your argument is quite convincing though. What about movies? -Girish -- unix soi qui mal y pense UNIX to him who evil thinks
Re: using openbsd to make presentations
I must apologise for speaking like that but I have spent HOURS in the past trying to make movie15 work... until I realised of the points I made in my last email. I was very angry 2008/3/19, Pau Amaro-Seoane [EMAIL PROTECTED]: movie15... yes, I know it from latex-beamer... it's (was?) crap It will only embed movies under acroread AND windows... and asks for very recent pdflatex versions... at least this was the case one year ago, when I gave it a chance last time... evince, on the other hand, is not displaying perfectly the beamer layout and I don't know how to tell evince that it must use xine to reproduce the linked movies of my pdf talks... kpdf is more intelligent but as slow as a Spanish bureaucrat... For now latex-beamer + apm -H + evince seems to be the winner combination in my case 2008/3/19, Predrag Punosevac [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In the next couple sentences I will try to answer some of the questions you guys asked me about powerdot class of latex presentations. 1. Yes it is easier to learn than the Beamer but if know Beamer and it works for you maybe you should stick to your guns. This is the link to documentation and the source file for powerdot http://texcatalogue.sarovar.org/entries/powerdot.html I want to reiterate that is very easy to customize slides unlike Beamer although you can see in the documentation that the package comes with about 20 different layouts and many more different color patterns. Trying to install manually on the top of teTeX will probably fail due to the fact that teTeX uses some outdated fonts. I tired in the past. It is not worthy as TeXLive in current ports three is rock solid. 2. There were many questions about Movies. Yes, It is possible to embed movies into the slides. Please follow the link http://tug.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/movie15/ The following link contains also extensive discussion of movie15 package and some examples http://www.uoregon.edu/~noeckel/PDFmovie.html Cheers, Predrag Girish Venkatachalam wrote: On 17:45:26 Mar 18, Predrag Punosevac wrote: I am a mathematician so I am quite often in the same position as you to give presentations which contain lots of formulas and images. I use Powerdot class of Latex presentations (descendant of Prosper an obsolete class of presentations ) which is as an alternative to the Beamer class. For the comprehensive review of all classes of presentations for latex you may check http://texcatalogue.sarovar.org/bytopic.html#present The advantages over Powerdot over Beamer are numerous. Powerdot is far easier (has only 60 man pages v.s. Beamer man pages are over 400 pages). It is also very simple to incorporate movies into your slides. The slides are easily customized and in my point of view far more beautiful than the Beamer. That will be really cool. ;) I love beauty both in women and in my work. ;) What about movies? The popularity of Beamer seems comes from the fact that you can use pdflatex to produce pdf slides. That is not possible with Powerdot as it uses some PostScript tricks. So you will have to latex slides followed by dvips and ps2pdf or dvipdfm to produce pdf slides. The ultimate goal of course is to produce pdf slides. That is no problem at all. I noticed that one has to use Adobe Reader (I prefer Xpdf as well) which is only available from ports due to the license issues in order to have alive links on slides. That seems to be built in feature ( I would call it bug) which should be communicated probably up stream. The slides are very responsive. I personally have not seen better looking slides on any platform and I think I have seen it all. Powerdot class of presentations is part of TeXLive but not the part of teTeX. As you know teTeX is dead for about three years now and the TeXLive is official TeX distribution for Unix maintained by TeX community. TeXLive is available only from ports for OpenBSD 4.2. However you will have to use port for 4.3 current (soon to be release) as I stumbled upon a bug in Powerdot class of presentation. The bug was in TeXLive source code and was well documented. It is already fixed by port maintainer for OpenBSD 4.3. As far as I know TeXLive will be regular package (you will not need to use ports) starting OpenBSD 4.3. This is only second Unix like system after Debian to have fully functional TeXLive thanks to Edd Baret porter of TeXLive for OpenBSD. On the last note I recommend that you install full TeXLive which is about
using openbsd to make presentations
Hi, very often I have to give a talk about my work etc... The slides contain a lot of math equations, plots and even sometimes some movies. I was used to latex-beamer to do all this because I want something I can edit with vi(m) and it fulfilled all requisites ... and I was used to it when I was using linux. I have switched to OpenBSD since some 1.5 years and I am very happy to report here, by the way, that OpenBSD _does_ start X on the projector where most linux peecees and macs fail :) BUT -and this is the main reason to write now- the pdf slides created with latex-beamer feel heavy... What I mean is that when using full screen (with xpdf or kpdf etc) it takes some 3-4 seconds to change a slide. I don't know why... I can provide you with a test talk, so that you udnerstand what I mean. This is very bad when somebody in the public asks a question of plot number 2 in slide #3 and you're in slide #55. Sure there are ways to overcome the problem, with the progress bar of latex-beamer, for instance, but still I don't like it. I just want to ask here in misc whether somebody has had the same problem and what other alternatives there are. I have noticed that a lot of people are using magicpoint out there. I had a look at it, but it seems not obvious to use when it comes to latex. As far as i know, there are these two possibilities: http://www.sonycsl.co.jp/person/nishida/mgp-users/msg00241.html http://www.sonycsl.co.jp/person/nishida/mgp-users/msg00290.html I have made some tests and I could not use all latex commands... I run into a snag in a number of occasions. Question: Do you have any recommendation / suggestion to prepare talks to be shown in a projector including mathematical equations, plots and, eventually, movies (I can live without this last point)? Thanks, Pau
Re: switching off the lid parks and spins up the hard drive too frequently in spite of atactl
I don't want any Standby mode... but in any case here the main and only question is Why the $%!! is X parking/ activating the hard drive when I switch off the lid? I guess the only answer is this one, indeed http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=114738577123893w=2 2008/2/27, Bryan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From man (8) atactl: apmset power-management-level Enables and sets the advanced power management level to the re- quested level on the specified device (if supported). Device performance may increase with increasing power management levels at the cost of potentially requiring more power. Values up to and including 126 allow the device to go into standby mode and spin-down the disk. This may cause disk time-outs and is there- fore not recommended. These values are more suitable optimiza- tion for low power usage on infrequently used devices. Values 127 up to and including 253 do not allow the device to go to standby mode and are more suitable for optimization for perfor- mance. Support for advanced power management is indicated by the device with `Advanced Power Management feature set' in the output of the identify command. So it would appear that it just reduces wd0's need for electricity. Have you tried something else, like atactl /dev/wd0c setstandby ###? I just put an old dell latitude D600 hard drive into standby by using atactl /dev/wd0c apmset 200 It appears to come back on when I use the command-line, and I get a device timeout error when it spins back up... funny enough, it also appears to come out of standby mode when I run atactl /dev/wd0c checkpower... I get one current power status: Standby mode, it pauses a second, I get the soft error message in the console window, then it comes back to active mode... On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 9:50 AM, Pau Amaro-Seoane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am having a small trouble... I attached an external monitor to my thinkpad T41; when I do this, I switch off the laptop lid by pressing fn+f3, in the hope that its life will be longer (and to spare a bit of energy) and there's a clear correlation between doing it and hearing the hard drive parking and spinning again in intervals of some seconds... I tried to set it to atactl wd0 apmset 253 but this didn't help. atactl wd0 checkpower yields Standby mode / Active mode alternatively every some seconds or so. Some output spree(pb)| sudo atactl /dev/wd0c identify Model: SAMSUNG HM121HC, Rev: LS100-10, Serial #: S12SJD0P910425 Device type: ATA, fixed Cylinders: 16383, heads: 16, sec/track: 63, total sectors: 234441648 Device capabilities: ATA standby timer values IORDY operation IORDY disabling Device supports the following standards: ATA-1 ATA-2 ATA-3 ATA-4 ATA-5 ATA-6 ATA-7 ATA-8 Master password revision code 0xfffe Device supports the following command sets: NOP command READ BUFFER command WRITE BUFFER command Host Protected Area feature set Read look-ahead Write cache Power Management feature set Security Mode feature set SMART feature set Flush Cache Ext command Flush Cache command Device Configuration Overlay feature set 48bit address feature set Automatic Acoustic Management feature set Set Max security extension commands Advanced Power Management feature set DOWNLOAD MICROCODE command IDLE IMMEDIATE with UNLOAD FEATURE SMART self-test SMART error logging Device has enabled the following command sets/features: NOP command READ BUFFER command WRITE BUFFER command Host Protected Area feature set Read look-ahead Write cache Power Management feature set SMART feature set Flush Cache Ext command Flush Cache command Device Configuration Overlay feature set 48bit address feature set Automatic Acoustic Management feature set Advanced Power Management feature set DOWNLOAD MICROCODE command - With lid SWITCHED OFF: == spree(pb)| while true; do ; sudo atactl wd0 checkpower ; date '+%Hh%mmin%Ssec' ; sleep 5 ; done Current power status: Active mode 18h02min53sec Current power status: Active mode 18h02min58sec Current power status: Active mode 18h02min03sec Current power status: Active mode 18h02min08sec Current power status: Active mode 18h02min13sec Current power status: Standby mode
Re: What is our ultimate goal??
could you please stop this shit and continue the conversation privately? People registered at misc know well why they are using obsd. We don't need this discussion. 2008/2/20, Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: * Mayuresh Kathe [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-02-20 13:12]: On Feb 20, 2008 4:58 PM, Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Mayuresh Kathe [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-02-17 13:38]: Wouldn't it be nice to have a high performance networking stack? yeah. guess what we have? exactly that. (which doesn't mean it could be even faster) Pardon if I sound ignorant, but isn't our networking stack based on the 24 year old technology from Berkeley? so? isn't your computer running on 100 years old technology called electricity? -- Henning Brauer, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] BS Web Services, http://bsws.de Full-Service ISP - Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS Services Dedicated Servers, Rootservers, Application Hosting - Hamburg Amsterdam
rlpr for OpenBSD?
Hi, we got a printer in our office. Now I'd like to use it. I hate configurating printers. I don't like cups. 631 is blocked. Usually I avoid all these problems with a cat MyVeryInterestingFile.ps | telnet IPaddressOfPrinterHere 9100 since most of the printers have that door open. It *works* Now, admin here is taking security a bit too seriously and it's not possible to telnet the printer over 9100. I was thinking of using rlpr, like rlpr -Plp -HIPaddressOfPrinterHere MyVeryInterestingFile.ps But I don't find rlpr in ports (4.2) Does any of you have a workaround to print ps w/o resorting to cups? Cheers, Pau
Re: rlpr for OpenBSD?
I found out the sources at http://truffula.com/rlpr/ Now, the Makefile is buggy. I had to do this to install rlpr properly on OpenBSD. I post it here just in case you're interested. make bsd-symlinks is wrong and ./bin is also wrong. The binaries go into ./src/bin spree(p8)| sudo make bsdlinks cd src make bsdlinks installing bsd symlinks... mv /usr/bin/lpr /usr/bin/lpr.bsd ln -s ./bin/rlpr /usr/bin/lpr mv /usr/bin/lpq /usr/bin/lpq.bsd ln -s ./bin/rlpq /usr/bin/lpq mv /usr/bin/lprm /usr/bin/lprm.bsd ln -s ./bin/rlprm /usr/bin/lprm spree(p8)| ls bin spree(p8)| cd src/bin spree(p8)| ls rlpq rlpr rlprd rlprm spree(p8)| sudo mv rlpr /usr/local/bin spree(p8)| sudo mv * /usr/local/bin spree(p8)| sudo mv /usr/bin/lpr.bsd /usr/bin/lpr spree(p8)| sudo mv /usr/bin/lpq.bsd /usr/bin/lpq spree(p8)| sudo mv /usr/bin/lprm.bsd /usr/bin/lprm 2008/1/29, Pau Amaro-Seoane [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, we got a printer in our office. Now I'd like to use it. I hate configurating printers. I don't like cups. 631 is blocked. Usually I avoid all these problems with a cat MyVeryInterestingFile.ps | telnet IPaddressOfPrinterHere 9100 since most of the printers have that door open. It *works* Now, admin here is taking security a bit too seriously and it's not possible to telnet the printer over 9100. I was thinking of using rlpr, like rlpr -Plp -HIPaddressOfPrinterHere MyVeryInterestingFile.ps But I don't find rlpr in ports (4.2) Does any of you have a workaround to print ps w/o resorting to cups? Cheers, Pau
usb wifi adapter
Hi, I have looked for a while, but I could not find a concrete answer to my problem. I would like to buy an usb wifi adapter which works with OpenBSD. I know that OpenBSD is the free OS which most chipsets supports in the world but... what about the usb thing? Does it require blobs? Will it work ou of the box? What's your experience? If you can name me some cheap adapters, I would be very grateful! thanks for your patience Pau
Re: USB WLAN dongles
Hi, thanks to all for the answers. I am learning a lot... but the lacuna was much bigger than I thought. I have found this http://www.wiretex.de/shop/product_info.php/info/p632_UBIQUITI-SRC-2-4GHz---5GHz-300mW-Sendeleistung.html in ebay there's right now a good offer... The description of the link is in German, but I think you can understand it easily. The chip is ath0 too... does it mean it will work out of the box with OpenBSD? Thanks, Pau 2008/1/24, raven [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Pau Amaro-Seoane ha scritto: what do you mean? I have to increase the gain of the reception on my laptop. Or do you mean I can use the built-in antenna of a router to do that? If so, how? I do have an old wifi router If you have a fonera, you can use it like a repeater with an selfmade Twin Quad antenna, he have a 12 dbi gain. With this antenna i can going at 3.2 Km with goods ionospherics conditions... I tell you my experiment, in a modified firmware, dd-wrt. You can set soo much parameters, like mW, dbi to be used... It's a good firmware as far i know... hasta luego
USB WLAN dongles
Hi, I have a thinkpad T40 running OpenBSD and live in a small, nice city close to Barcelona whose city hall offers free wifi Internet to everybody. Unfortunately they do not have a good coverage and where my building is, I don't get any signal. The card is identified by OpenBSD as ath0. I was thinking, as somebody in the thinkpad forum suggested, of an USB WLAN dongle, but one of those with an external antenna that is connected through a standard (typically: Reverse) SMA-connector. Next, get a sufficiently long, low-loss cable and a parabolic antenna (some 24 dBi gain, e.g.), mount the antenna at a point having preferably line-of-sight to the WLAN source (the public router/access point), and disable the Atheros internal miniPCI interface (or, is this perhaps even not necessary?). If your Linux will support the particular USB WLAN dongle, then you're in business... otherwise, well, you're in trouble! A few images showing what type of USB WLAN dongles I am having in mind are something like this no. 1 http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-11g-Wireless-2-4G-WiFi-WI-FI-LAN-External-Antenna_W0QQitemZ150208258653 or this no. 2 http://cgi.ebay.com/Alfa-50mW-USB-WiFi-24dBi-Grid-w-Mount-WLAN-10-ext_W0QQitemZ130190878170 or this no. 3. http://cgi.ebay.com/802-11g-Wireless-LAN-WLAN-High-Gain-USB-Adapter-Antenna_W0QQitemZ180168479250 An example of an outdoor, high-gain parabolic WLAN antenna is shown here - http://www.embeddedworks.net/antenna/f2400_Outdoor-Parabolic-Grid-Dish.html there are TONS of such available, and at a variety of prices; Google around a bit, and you will find much cheaper ones. Now, my question is... will this work with OpenBSD? Has any of you tried this? I have googled for a while and found nothing... thanks Pau
Re: USB WLAN dongles
what do you mean? I have to increase the gain of the reception on my laptop. Or do you mean I can use the built-in antenna of a router to do that? If so, how? I do have an old wifi router 2008/1/24, Dmitrij Czarkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wouldn't wi-fi router ve more effective here? Or is it too expensive to be a solution? -- Dmitrij D. Czarkoff
Re: ibm thinkpad x60s + suspend mode
It'll take a long time before suspend is supported under acpi. Try to get an apm machine Pau 2008/1/19, Benoit Chesneau [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I just bought an ibm thinkpad x50s x60s obviously :) OpenBSD 4.2-current (GENERIC.MP) #547: Fri Jan 18 15:22:48 MST 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM) Duo CPU L2400 @ 1.66GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.67 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,VMX,EST,TM2,xTPR real mem = 1063677952 (1014MB) avail mem = 1020547072 (973MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 07/26/07, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfd690, SMBIOS rev. 2.4 @ 0xe0010 (67 entries) bios0: vendor LENOVO version 7BETD1WW (2.12 ) date 07/26/2007 bios0: LENOVO 17025PG acpi0 at bios0: rev 2 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP SSDT ECDT TCPA APIC MCFG HPET SLIC BOOT SSDT SSDT SSDT SSDT acpi0: wakeup devices LID_(S3) SLPB(S3) DURT(S3) EXP0(S4) EXP1(S4) EXP2(S4) EXP3(S4) PCI1(S4) USB0(S3) USB1(S3) USB2(S3) USB7(S3) HDEF(S4) acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) cpu0: apic clock running at 166 MHz cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor) cpu1: Intel(R) Core(TM) Duo CPU L2400 @ 1.66GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.67 GHz cpu1: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,VMX,EST,TM2,xTPR ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 1 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins ioapic0: duplicate apic id, remapped to apid 2 acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0) acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus -1 (AGP_) acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 2 (EXP0) acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 3 (EXP1) acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 4 (EXP2) acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus 12 (EXP3) acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus 21 (PCI1) acpiec0 at acpi0 acpicpu0 at acpi0: C3, C2 acpicpu1 at acpi0: C3, C2 acpitz0 at acpi0: critical temperature 127 degC acpitz1 at acpi0: critical temperature 97 degC acpibtn0 at acpi0: LID_ acpibtn1 at acpi0: SLPB acpibat0 at acpi0: BAT0 model 42T5247 serial 538 type LION oem SANYO acpibat1 at acpi0: BAT1 not present acpibat2 at acpi0: BAT2 not present acpiac0 at acpi0: AC unit online acpidock at acpi0 not configured bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xea00! 0xcf000/0x1000 0xd/0x1000 0xdc000/0x4000! 0xe/0x1! cpu0: unknown Enhanced SpeedStep CPU, msr 0x06130a1d06000a1d cpu0: using only highest and lowest power states cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 1667 MHz (1164 mV): speeds: 1667, 1000 MHz pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82945GM Host rev 0x03 agp0 at pchb0: aperture at 0xd000, size 0x1000 vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel 82945GM Video rev 0x03 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) Intel 82945GM Video rev 0x03 at pci0 dev 2 function 1 not configured azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 Intel 82801GB HD Audio rev 0x02: apic 2 int 17 (irq 11) azalia0: codec[s]: Analog Devices/0x1981, Conexant/0x2bfa, using Analog Devices/0x1981 audio0 at azalia0 ppb0 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x02: apic 2 int 20 (irq 11) pci1 at ppb0 bus 2 em0 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 Intel PRO/1000MT (82573L) rev 0x00: apic 2 int 16 (irq 11), address 00:16:d3:c0:22:c8 ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 1 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x02: apic 2 int 21 (irq 11) pci2 at ppb1 bus 3 wpi0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG rev 0x02: apic 2 int 17 (irq 11), MoW2, address 00:1c:bf:6e:c5:c8 ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 2 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x02: apic 2 int 22 (irq 11) pci3 at ppb2 bus 4 ppb3 at pci0 dev 28 function 3 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x02: apic 2 int 23 (irq 11) pci4 at ppb3 bus 12 uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x02: apic 2 int 16 (irq 11) uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x02: apic 2 int 17 (irq 11) uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x02: apic 2 int 18 (irq 11) uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 3 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x02: apic 2 int 19 (irq 11) ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x02: apic 2 int 19 (irq 11) usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1 ppb4 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BAM Hub-to-PCI rev 0xe2 pci5 at ppb4 bus 21 cbb0 at pci5 dev 0 function 0 Ricoh 5C476 CardBus rev 0xb4: apic 2 int 16 (irq 11) Ricoh 5C552 Firewire rev 0x09 at pci5 dev 0 function 1 not configured sdhc0 at pci5 dev 0 function 2 Ricoh 5C822 SD/MMC rev 0x18: apic 2 int 18 (irq 11) sdmmc0 at sdhc0 cardslot0 at cbb0 slot 0 flags 0 cardbus0 at cardslot0: bus 22 device 0 cacheline 0x0, lattimer 0xb0 pcmcia0 at cardslot0 ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel 82801GBM LPC rev 0x02: PM
Re: avoiding a mac address filter
Poor Targus... go to an internet cafe and check there your emails 2008/1/8, Nick Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 1/7/08, Andreas Maus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 12:19:26PM -0500, Dave Anderson wrote: On Mon, 7 Jan 2008, Pau Amaro-Seoane wrote: loosen up a bit, you're too tight up... I just want to check my emails, I don't want to download p0nr movies Theft of service is theft, regardless of how much or little service you're stealing. If someone's gone to the trouble of filtering on MAC addresses, they've clearly indicated that they're not a public service -- and no amount of weasel-wording will get around that. ACK! Furthermore, depending on your origin this is considered a criminal act if you circumvent the MAC filter. E.g. here in germany you will pay for that crime or go to jail (for up to 5 years) doing this for a: sniffing the traffic to get a valid IP/MAC association b: breaking into the system which is protected (even a MAC filter is considered a protection). And NO A SYSTEM THAT USES MAC FILTERING IS NOT AN OPEN ACCESSPOINT! Oh and by the way it may be considered a crime trying to do or giving you tips how to do this (incitement). So don't expect any answer on this list. That's a lame law. Information should be free, trust the people to do what's right, c. Though I wouldn't help in this case, since it's obvious the OP does want to just steal wifi, and helping him do that without teaching him is a waste of everyone's time. -Nick
Re: avoiding a mac address filter
loosen up a bit, you're too tight up... I just want to check my emails, I don't want to download p0nr movies 2008/1/7, Josh Grosse [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 13:39:01 +0100, Targus Neoprene wrote Hi, in my flat I can see a lot of open connection points. They do not require a password and, in principle, I can log in every time... but they seem to be protected with a mac filter, because I cannot get an IP address via dhclient I have a naive question: Is there any way to avoid that? I mean: is there a way to surpass the mac filter and get an ip? Do I understand this correctly? You are asking how to *defeat* someone else's SOHO NAT router, using its MAC filter as their only security? If so, I'm appalled by your lack of ethics.
Re: avoiding a mac address filter
I mean that I'd also be interested to see any more elaborated answer than a sermon on ethics... and after all, at my place of work they also use the same system (!), so that it'd be interesting to know how they can crack it... and avoid it 2008/1/7, Pau Amaro-Seoane [EMAIL PROTECTED]: loosen up a bit, you're too tight up... I just want to check my emails, I don't want to download p0nr movies 2008/1/7, Josh Grosse [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 13:39:01 +0100, Targus Neoprene wrote Hi, in my flat I can see a lot of open connection points. They do not require a password and, in principle, I can log in every time... but they seem to be protected with a mac filter, because I cannot get an IP address via dhclient I have a naive question: Is there any way to avoid that? I mean: is there a way to surpass the mac filter and get an ip? Do I understand this correctly? You are asking how to *defeat* someone else's SOHO NAT router, using its MAC filter as their only security? If so, I'm appalled by your lack of ethics.
Re: fvwm in base and repository with security issues?
please, don't touch fvwm 2.2.5... it's just perfect... not in vain it's the default wm in obsd... Don't touch t! 2007/12/30, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun, Dec 30, 2007 at 07:36:47PM +0100, Jan wrote: I would suggest to remove all window managers from base except twm. Twm is in all default X installations and could be left in as last resort. When someone needs a window manager, he can install it from repo or ports, but it should not be as now, that a 'left over' which is much to old, full of bugs and unmaintained, can be used on the 'most secure operating system ever'. If this is a true issue that applies to OBSD rather than a non-issue because of custom fixes applied by OBSD, the I would suggest that there be a more configurable wm other than twm in base. The reason is simple. Anything in base has a good security audit done. Things in ports/packages don't. Personally, I use icewm since its quite light-weight yet configurable to some extent (e.g. menu and taskbar). Doug.
Re: Problems with USB sticks on 4.2-current. (Panic)
I am very frequently using usb sticks (as in many times a day) and I have never had a problem, on different hardware, with different obsd: 4.0, 4.1, 4.2, -current 2007/12/22, Vijay Sankar [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On December 22, 2007 06:20:55 am Edd Barrett wrote: Hi there, I have been seeing some very odd behavior on 4.2-current recently. I use hotplug. My workstation at work frequently reboots upon insertion of a usb stick. This may be an electronic fault, but my main workstation at home (same hardware exactly), can panic like so: ---8--- cd /mnt/hot/sd0 mkdir mo uvm_fault(0xd07a2040, 0xf2e7b000, 0, 1) - e kernel: page fault trap, code=0 Stopped at updatefats+0x3ctestl%eax,0(%esi,%edx,4) ddb ---8--- Unfortunatley the ddb prompt does not respond to my USB keyboard. It seems to be repeatable, so I will dig around for a serial line or ps2 keyboard if I don't hear anything back before sunday (when I have time). Hopefully then I can get a backtrace. Dmesg follows (with USB stick inserted): ---8--- OpenBSD 4.2-current (GENERIC) #592: Sun Dec 9 17:44:05 MST 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 3 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFL USH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,CNXT-ID,xTPR real mem = 2397855744 (2286MB) avail mem = 2310959104 (2203MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 04/05/04, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xf0010, SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xfbe40 (76 entries) bios0: vendor Intel Corp. version BF86510A.86A.0058.P15.0404050012 date 04/05/2004 bios0: Intel Corporation D865GLC apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2 apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown acpi at bios0 function 0x0 not configured pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0x1 pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xf3d00/224 (12 entries) pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:31:0 (Intel 82801EB/ER LPC rev 0x00) pcibios0: PCI bus #2 is the last bus bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xa200! 0xca800/0x1000 0xcb800/0x1000 cpu0 at mainbus0 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82865G/PE/P CPU-I/0-1 rev 0x02 agp0 at pchb0: aperture at 0xf000, size 0x800 vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel 82865G Video rev 0x02 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) ppb0 at pci0 dev 3 function 0 Intel 82865G/PE/P CPU-CSA rev 0x02 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 em0 at pci1 dev 1 function 0 Intel PRO/1000CT (82547EI) rev 0x00: irq 10, address 00:0c:f1:f5:13:3c uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801EB/ER USB rev 0x02: irq 11 uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801EB/ER USB rev 0x02: irq 5 uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 Intel 82801EB/ER USB rev 0x02: irq 10 uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 3 Intel 82801EB/ER USB rev 0x02: irq 11 ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801EB/ER USB2 rev 0x02: irq 9 usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1 ppb1 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BA AGP rev 0xc2 pci2 at ppb1 bus 2 ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel 82801EB/ER LPC rev 0x02: 24-bit timer at 3579545Hz pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 1 Intel 82801EB/ER IDE rev 0x02: DMA, channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: Maxtor 6E040L0 wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 39205MB, 80293248 sectors wd1 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 1: HDS728080PLAT20 wd1: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 78533MB, 160836480 sectors wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5 wd1(pciide0:0:1): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5 wd2 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0: IC35L060AVV207-0 wd2: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 58644MB, 120103200 sectors atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 1 scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: TOSHIBA, DVD-ROM SD-M1302, 1006 SCSI0 5/cdrom removable wd2(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5 cd0(pciide0:1:1): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2 pciide1 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 Intel 82801EB SATA rev 0x02: DMA, channel 0 configured to native-PCI, channel 1 configured to native-PCI pciide1: using irq 10 for native-PCI interrupt ichiic0 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 Intel 82801EB/ER SMBus rev 0x02: irq 3 iic0 at ichiic0 adt0 at iic0 addr 0x2e: emc6d100 rev 0x65 spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x50: 512MB DDR SDRAM non-parity PC2700CL2.5 spdmem1 at iic0 addr 0x51: 512MB DDR SDRAM non-parity PC2700CL2.5 spdmem2 at iic0 addr 0x52: 256MB DDR SDRAM non-parity PC2700CL2.5 spdmem3 at iic0 addr 0x53: 1GB DDR SDRAM non-parity PC3200CL3.0 usb1 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb2 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub2 at usb2 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr
setxkbmap kills X
Hi, as you can read in the subject, running e.g. setxkbmap us will kill X totally. I don't see any core dumped or similar. What can be the problem? Here you are my dmesg (an zzz froze the laptop and I had to power it off) and xorg.conf But X crashed also when not using an xorg.conf (i.e., running it on the fly) - OpenBSD 4.2 (GENERIC) #375: Tue Aug 28 10:38:44 MDT 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1700MHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.70 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,TM,SBF,EST,TM2 real mem = 2146398208 (2046MB) avail mem = 2067853312 (1972MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 01/20/05, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfd750, SMBIOS rev. 2.33 @ 0xe0010 (61 entries) bios0: vendor IBM version 1RETDIWW (3.14 ) date 01/20/2005 bios0: IBM 23739FU apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2 apm0: battery life expectancy 100% apm0: AC on, battery charge high apm0: flags 30102 dobusy 0 doidle 1 pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xfd6e0/0x920 pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfdea0/272 (15 entries) pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:31:0 (Intel 82371FB ISA rev 0x00) pcibios0: PCI bus #6 is the last bus bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x1 0xd/0x1000 0xd1000/0x1000 0xdc000/0x4000! 0xe/0x1 cpu0 at mainbus0 cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 1700 MHz (1484 mV): speeds: 1700, 1400, 1200, 1000, 800, 600 MHz pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82855PE Hub rev 0x03 ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 Intel 82855PE AGP rev 0x03 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 ATI Radeon Mobility M9 Lf rev 0x02 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801DB USB rev 0x01: irq 11 uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801DB USB rev 0x01: irq 11 uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 Intel 82801DB USB rev 0x01: irq 11 ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801DB USB rev 0x01: irq 11 usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0: Intel EHCI root hub, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 ppb1 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BAM Hub-to-PCI rev 0x81 pci2 at ppb1 bus 2 cbb0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 TI PCI4520 CardBus rev 0x01: irq 11 cbb1 at pci2 dev 0 function 1 TI PCI4520 CardBus rev 0x01: irq 11 em0 at pci2 dev 1 function 0 Intel PRO/1000MT (82540EP) rev 0x03: irq 11, address 00:0d:60:89:7a:4d ath0 at pci2 dev 2 function 0 Atheros AR5212 (IBM MiniPCI) rev 0x01: irq 11 ath0: AR5213 5.6 phy 4.1 rf5111 1.7 rf2111 2.3, WOR1W, address 00:05:4e:42:ea:6b cardslot0 at cbb0 slot 0 flags 0 cardbus0 at cardslot0: bus 3 device 0 cacheline 0x8, lattimer 0xb0 pcmcia0 at cardslot0 cardslot1 at cbb1 slot 1 flags 0 cardbus1 at cardslot1: bus 6 device 0 cacheline 0x8, lattimer 0xb0 pcmcia1 at cardslot1 ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel 82801DBM LPC rev 0x01: 24-bit timer at 3579545Hz pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 1 Intel 82801DBM IDE rev 0x01: DMA, channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: SAMSUNG HM121HC wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 114473MB, 234441648 sectors wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5 atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0 scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: HL-DT-ST, RW/DVD GCC-4242N, 0201 SCSI0 5/cdrom removable cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2 ichiic0 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 Intel 82801DB SMBus rev 0x01: irq 11 iic0 at ichiic0 auich0 at pci0 dev 31 function 5 Intel 82801DB AC97 rev 0x01: irq 11, ICH4 AC97 ac97: codec id 0x41445374 (Analog Devices AD1981B) ac97: codec features headphone, 20 bit DAC, No 3D Stereo audio0 at auich0 Intel 82801DB Modem rev 0x01 at pci0 dev 31 function 6 not configured usb1 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 usb2 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub2 at usb2: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 usb3 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0 uhub3 at usb3: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 isa0 at ichpcib0 isadma0 at isa0 pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 pms0 at pckbc0 (aux slot) pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot wsmouse0 at pms0 mux 0 pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61 midi0 at pcppi0: PC speaker spkr0 at pcppi0 lpt2 at isa0 port 0x3bc/4: polled aps0 at isa0 port 0x1600/31 npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: reported by CPUID; using exception 16 fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0/6 irq 6 drq 2 biomask effd netmask effd ttymask pctr: 686-class user-level performance counters enabled mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support dkcsum: wd0 matches BIOS drive 0x80 root on wd0a swap on wd0b dump on wd0b WARNING: / was not properly unmounted auich0: measured ac97
Re: Machine will not recover from 'deep sleep' state [ IBM Thinkpad T41 ]
A suspend/resume cycle kills all active network connections, but 'sh /etc/netstart' restores things fine. that's funny... in my case this is not needed... the connection is there after resuming... Is it possible that there's such a difference between the thinkpad T41 and T41p?? 2007/12/2, Pau Amaro-Seoane [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There's no disk partition to hold suspend info, and removing power when in the suspend state kills the suspend (i.e. when power is restored I have to do a cold reboot with full fsck etc). So, I conclude I must be doing suspend-to-RAM. yes, this is another issue... I DO have such a partition, I made it on purpose for that aim, I did exactly what you can read in http://www.openbsd.org/i386-laptop.html You can use this feature with OpenBSD. Generate the partition for hibernation using the /usr/ports/sysutils/tphdisk utility from the ports collection. The hibernation partition requires to be a MS-DOS partition at the beginning of the harddisk. This partition can be of type 16 bit FAT or FAT32 (as such it is possible that a Windows install lives in this partition). But I don't see any difference between apm -S, apm -z (zzz). There's always energy consumption. Here you are my DMESG in case of (as you can see, the hard drive crashed from last time I tried to suspend from X, now I am suspending from terminal... and also this time I have acpi enabled, but I don't see any difference) OpenBSD 4.2 (GENERIC) #375: Tue Aug 28 10:38:44 MDT 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1700MHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.70 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,TM,SBF,EST,TM2 real mem = 2146398208 (2046MB) avail mem = 2067853312 (1972MB) User Kernel Config UKC enable acpi 396 acpi0 enabled UKC quit Continuing... mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 01/20/05, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfd750, SMBIOS rev. 2.33 @ 0xe0010 (61 entries) bios0: vendor IBM version 1RETDIWW (3.14 ) date 01/20/2005 bios0: IBM 23739FU apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2 apm0: battery life expectancy 100% apm0: AC on, battery charge high apm0: flags 30102 dobusy 0 doidle 1 pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xfd6e0/0x920 pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfdea0/272 (15 entries) pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:31:0 (Intel 82371FB ISA rev 0x00) pcibios0: PCI bus #6 is the last bus bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x1 0xd/0x1000 0xd1000/0x1000 0xdc000/0x4000! 0xe/0x1 cpu0 at mainbus0 cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 1700 MHz (1484 mV): speeds: 1700, 1400, 1200, 1000, 800, 600 MHz pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82855PE Hub rev 0x03 ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 Intel 82855PE AGP rev 0x03 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 ATI Radeon Mobility M9 Lf rev 0x02 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801DB USB rev 0x01: irq 11 uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801DB USB rev 0x01: irq 11 uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 Intel 82801DB USB rev 0x01: irq 11 ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801DB USB rev 0x01: irq 11 usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0: Intel EHCI root hub, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 ppb1 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BAM Hub-to-PCI rev 0x81 pci2 at ppb1 bus 2 cbb0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 TI PCI4520 CardBus rev 0x01: irq 11 cbb1 at pci2 dev 0 function 1 TI PCI4520 CardBus rev 0x01: irq 11 em0 at pci2 dev 1 function 0 Intel PRO/1000MT (82540EP) rev 0x03: irq 11, address 00:0d:60:89:7a:4d ath0 at pci2 dev 2 function 0 Atheros AR5212 (IBM MiniPCI) rev 0x01: irq 11 ath0: AR5213 5.6 phy 4.1 rf5111 1.7 rf2111 2.3, WOR1W, address 00:05:4e:42:ea:6b cardslot0 at cbb0 slot 0 flags 0 cardbus0 at cardslot0: bus 3 device 0 cacheline 0x8, lattimer 0xb0 pcmcia0 at cardslot0 cardslot1 at cbb1 slot 1 flags 0 cardbus1 at cardslot1: bus 6 device 0 cacheline 0x8, lattimer 0xb0 pcmcia1 at cardslot1 ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel 82801DBM LPC rev 0x01: 24-bit timer at 3579545Hz pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 1 Intel 82801DBM IDE rev 0x01: DMA, channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: SAMSUNG HM121HC wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 114473MB, 234441648 sectors wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5 atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0 scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: HL-DT-ST, RW/DVD GCC-4242N, 0201 SCSI0 5/cdrom removable cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2 ichiic0 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 Intel 82801DB SMBus rev 0x01: irq 11 iic0 at ichiic0 auich0 at pci0 dev 31 function 5 Intel 82801DB AC97 rev 0x01: irq 11, ICH4 AC97 ac97: codec id 0x41445374 (Analog
Re: Skype on the OpenBSD
I did this as an exercise some time ago... when I was learning how obsd works: www.aei.mpg.de/~pau/skype.png Now that I know that there is pjsua in ports waiting for us (it's only -current), which seems to be compatible for windows and MacOSX and linux, I'm looking forward to it! (I'm the only one using obsd among my friends and relatives, but still I want to be able to talk to them!) And I'd never be using skype... Putting it into words of Olivier Meyer: -- Skype is completely closed source, and the developers have admitted that the only reason it is not open source, is because the security is too weak. See http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/06/15/voip_and_skype/page3.html and look at the bottom: Would he[Niklas Zennstrom, co-founder of Skype] make Skype open-source? No - that would make its strong 1024 bit encryption and security vulnerable: We could do it but only if we re-engineered the way it works and we don't have the time right now. This is merely security by obscurity. According to a security analysis presented at BlackHat, the code is protected with many layers of obfuscation and encryption, intended to prevent reversing. Here is relevant sections of the EULA(http://www.skype.com/company/legal/eula/): 4.1 *Utilization of Your computer.* You hereby acknowledge that the Skype Software may utilize the processor and bandwidth of the computer (or other applicable device) You are utilizing, for the limited purpose of facilitating the communication between Skype Software users. So, basically, you accept the fact that Skype will use any and all resources to facilitate communication. How does anyone know that there is not a backdoor that can bes used to access any machine running Skype. -- 2007/12/2, Predrag Punosevac [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Jacob Meuser wrote: VoIP applications generally require full-duplex audio operation (or two soundcards, but that gets icky as far as configuration goes). you'll have much more luck with full-duplex audio in -current (or when 4.3 is released). also see ports/telephony/pjsua in -current. I apologize to everyone for my first message as it seems stirred high unintended emotions. I was merely interested in the technical possibility to run the Skype on the OpenBSD box. As of this moment I do not have even a Linux emulator turned on as I have strong preference for BSD license and keeping thing as simple as possible. According to above message I could expect technical problems with the full-duplex mode on 4.2. I was not aware of it. I am familiar with the SIP technology and have strong preference to SIP phones over Skype. As of now it seems that there are no SIP phones either listed in packages and even ports for 4.2. Another reason for being interested in the Skype is purely pragmatical. It seems that SIP phones and in particularly Ekiga that I am the most familiar with have poor support for Windows and OS X. As most of people that I talk to (family and friends) run those operating systems it seems to me logical that I try to accommodate them instead of asking all of them to change the operating system. Speaking of my privacy I have no illusions either. I live in U. S. and I do know that all my phone conversations and email correspondence are monitored by various government agencies so I do not expect that Skype would be any exception to this disturbing trend. One more time my sincere apology to everyone. Best, Predrag
Re: Skype on the OpenBSD
Do not pretend that you have no choice. quite This is indeed the point. It's hard, it hurts, but it's the point. After one year of migration, I am now using exclusively obsd on this laptop, without any kind of blob, and all hardware is supported. I have learnt to be patient. If you support your football team, you have to support it also when it loses a match, and obsd is playing a difficult game against a team of a billion vendors with weapons of massive destruction. I support them. I come from the linux side and obsd has given me things I had only heard about like; e.g. when you don't know what programme tretetrertwe does, type man tretetrertwe Wrong. When I switched to obsd I could not believe that a man could be THAT useful. In linux I was googling for answers. Also: Releases. I do SEE the new work in obsd releases. I almost did not see anything in the linux world, artwork, probably, full stop. Sometimes also things that worked before stopped working. Note that I do not want to make out of this (yet) another linux-obsd war. I mention linux because it _was_ my OS before. Full stop here, please. The bottom line: you have the choice 2007/12/2, ropers [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [quotes rearranged (but not changed) for easier parsing] On 02/12/2007, Jonathan Schleifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I neither use Skype, nor do I promote it. (...) Again: I never said it's ok to run it. (...) I've recommended not running it outside of a chroot. (...) I care about security and recommended to run Skype *ONLY* in chroot or vm. ...which is still running it, and implying that it's ok to do so, as long as it's inside a chroot. I have a lot of friends who use ICQ and Skype, I'm forced to use it as well as many of them are unwilling to switch to something else. So you DO use Skype, after all. You said above that you didn't. Which is it? I'm against BLOBs, but still I use the proprietary NVidia drivers on Linux since I need 3D support. (...) Yes, sometimes I have to use windows. You do not need and do not have to. You always have a choice. Even if it gets to be our only weapon is our refusal. I'm not telling you what choice to make. I know that it's hard to unconditionally and uncompromisingly stand up for one's principles. I'm not better than you in that regard. But it is a *choice*. A choice and a trade-off, because you decided that NVidia 3D graphics and whatever Windows does for you is more important than staying blob-free. Do not pretend that you have no choice. Your decisions are your choice and **your responsibility**, and **your** choice is NOT the responsibility of your fellow Skype or Windows or NVidia users. You have to balance between ideology and use. You're on the wrong email list with that view. This point has been argued repeatedly here -- and again, and again, and again, ad infinitum et ad nauseam. The bottom line is that most OpenBSD users are not fond of such compromises. Yes, some of us still sometimes make them **cough** I got a free NVIDIA card, and wanted to run Google Earth on Linux and... **cough**, but most folks here are VERY ashamed when making such compromises, and recognize them as inherent wrongs, and would never be so foolish as to try to defend these dirty little secrets. And I think most OpenBSD users would not say that they have to, they would admit that they chose to, maybe against their better judgment. Daniel Ouellet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you kind of promote to use buggy software (...) by the fact that it is widely use and as such you can't run something else? This seems to me to be a perfectly reasonable summary of your position. --ropers
Re: Machine will not recover from 'deep sleep' state [ IBM Thinkpad T41 ]
There's an ugly way to do it: suspend from terminal (say ctrl+alt+f2 and zzz), and when you wake it up go back to X with ctrl+alt+f5. This is how I am doing it now and it's working perfectly. It also goes into sleeping mode much faster from the terminal... Cheers, Pau 2007/12/1, Mark Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Nov 30, 2007 11:50 AM, Pau Amaro-Seoane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am having the same issue. Have you succeed at waking up the video? Pau No I never got it working. I went back to 4.1. -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments
Re: Machine will not recover from 'deep sleep' state [ IBM Thinkpad T41 ]
the suspend via terminal technique comes back always... I had four crashes when suspending from X and don't want to play further with fire, even if I added sync to the most important partitions, with the lost of performance, I don't like having to brutally stop my hard drive let's wait for 4.3, until then, suspend from terminal (no X) Anybody out there running -current on a thinkpad T41 who can report on suspending/resuming? 2007/12/1, Ted Unangst [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 11/6/07, Mark Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I close the lid on this laptop ( Thinkpad T41 ) the machine goes into a deep sleep but will not recover with OpenBSD 4.2. With 4.1 this worked flawlessly. xorg is not running during these tests. it will often come back if you cycle through another suspend/resume with fn-f4.
Re: Machine will not recover from 'deep sleep' state [ IBM Thinkpad T41 ]
There's no disk partition to hold suspend info, and removing power when in the suspend state kills the suspend (i.e. when power is restored I have to do a cold reboot with full fsck etc). So, I conclude I must be doing suspend-to-RAM. yes, this is another issue... I DO have such a partition, I made it on purpose for that aim, I did exactly what you can read in http://www.openbsd.org/i386-laptop.html You can use this feature with OpenBSD. Generate the partition for hibernation using the /usr/ports/sysutils/tphdisk utility from the ports collection. The hibernation partition requires to be a MS-DOS partition at the beginning of the harddisk. This partition can be of type 16 bit FAT or FAT32 (as such it is possible that a Windows install lives in this partition). But I don't see any difference between apm -S, apm -z (zzz). There's always energy consumption. Here you are my DMESG in case of (as you can see, the hard drive crashed from last time I tried to suspend from X, now I am suspending from terminal... and also this time I have acpi enabled, but I don't see any difference) OpenBSD 4.2 (GENERIC) #375: Tue Aug 28 10:38:44 MDT 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1700MHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.70 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,TM,SBF,EST,TM2 real mem = 2146398208 (2046MB) avail mem = 2067853312 (1972MB) User Kernel Config UKC enable acpi 396 acpi0 enabled UKC quit Continuing... mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 01/20/05, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfd750, SMBIOS rev. 2.33 @ 0xe0010 (61 entries) bios0: vendor IBM version 1RETDIWW (3.14 ) date 01/20/2005 bios0: IBM 23739FU apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2 apm0: battery life expectancy 100% apm0: AC on, battery charge high apm0: flags 30102 dobusy 0 doidle 1 pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xfd6e0/0x920 pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfdea0/272 (15 entries) pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:31:0 (Intel 82371FB ISA rev 0x00) pcibios0: PCI bus #6 is the last bus bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x1 0xd/0x1000 0xd1000/0x1000 0xdc000/0x4000! 0xe/0x1 cpu0 at mainbus0 cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 1700 MHz (1484 mV): speeds: 1700, 1400, 1200, 1000, 800, 600 MHz pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82855PE Hub rev 0x03 ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 Intel 82855PE AGP rev 0x03 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 ATI Radeon Mobility M9 Lf rev 0x02 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801DB USB rev 0x01: irq 11 uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801DB USB rev 0x01: irq 11 uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 Intel 82801DB USB rev 0x01: irq 11 ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801DB USB rev 0x01: irq 11 usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0: Intel EHCI root hub, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 ppb1 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BAM Hub-to-PCI rev 0x81 pci2 at ppb1 bus 2 cbb0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 TI PCI4520 CardBus rev 0x01: irq 11 cbb1 at pci2 dev 0 function 1 TI PCI4520 CardBus rev 0x01: irq 11 em0 at pci2 dev 1 function 0 Intel PRO/1000MT (82540EP) rev 0x03: irq 11, address 00:0d:60:89:7a:4d ath0 at pci2 dev 2 function 0 Atheros AR5212 (IBM MiniPCI) rev 0x01: irq 11 ath0: AR5213 5.6 phy 4.1 rf5111 1.7 rf2111 2.3, WOR1W, address 00:05:4e:42:ea:6b cardslot0 at cbb0 slot 0 flags 0 cardbus0 at cardslot0: bus 3 device 0 cacheline 0x8, lattimer 0xb0 pcmcia0 at cardslot0 cardslot1 at cbb1 slot 1 flags 0 cardbus1 at cardslot1: bus 6 device 0 cacheline 0x8, lattimer 0xb0 pcmcia1 at cardslot1 ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel 82801DBM LPC rev 0x01: 24-bit timer at 3579545Hz pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 1 Intel 82801DBM IDE rev 0x01: DMA, channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: SAMSUNG HM121HC wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 114473MB, 234441648 sectors wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5 atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0 scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: HL-DT-ST, RW/DVD GCC-4242N, 0201 SCSI0 5/cdrom removable cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2 ichiic0 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 Intel 82801DB SMBus rev 0x01: irq 11 iic0 at ichiic0 auich0 at pci0 dev 31 function 5 Intel 82801DB AC97 rev 0x01: irq 11, ICH4 AC97 ac97: codec id 0x41445374 (Analog Devices AD1981B) ac97: codec features headphone, 20 bit DAC, No 3D Stereo audio0 at auich0 Intel 82801DB Modem rev 0x01 at pci0 dev 31 function 6 not configured usb1 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 usb2 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub2 at usb2: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 usb3 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0 uhub3 at usb3: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00,
Re: Machine will not recover from 'deep sleep' state [ IBM Thinkpad T41 ]
Hi, I am having the same issue. Have you succeed at waking up the video? Pau 2007/11/7, Mark Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Nov 6, 2007 5:34 AM, Mark Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I close the lid on this laptop ( Thinkpad T41 ) the machine goes into a deep sleep but will not recover with OpenBSD 4.2. With 4.1 this worked flawlessly. xorg is not running during these tests. Well apparently it's just video related. The machine still responds to typed commands I just cannot see what I'm typing. :) -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments
Re: wifiprobe script
Hi, sorry for the spam. This is an update to the wifiprobe script. For some reason the ath0 scan output differs from the ipw0, iwi0, iwn0 etc... ath0 gives the signal strength in % (of what?), whilst iwi0, ipw0, iwn0 specifies the units (dB) In any case, this is the update to the script: www.aei.mpg.de/~pau/OpenBSD_wifiprobe.sh I hope you find it useful Pau 2007/11/7, Pau Amaro-Seoane [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I use very frequently the wireless to connect to different nets and I have a script for personal use which probably (??) could be useful for some of you. At least some of the misc people I know asked me to post this here. I also have seen/read a lot of critics to obsd for not having a couple of tools for doing such things. I hope this helps obsd a bit (???). In any case, I hope I don't overwhelm your inbox with unwished spam. I am sure that a lot of you have already done something similar... This script is thought to help you find the different available connections (named beams for historical reasons) where you happen to be when you execute it. It will display them in the following order: 1- Public connections (i.e. without wep key) 2- Secured connections (i.e. with wep) They are also shown in order according to the strength of the signal and then you're prompted to choose the number of the beam you wish to connect to. Of course, if a wep password is required, you will be asked for it. Afterwards it'll connect to it. Please note that you will have to modify the script to a- select your IFACE (in my case iwi0) b- select your LANG (in my case catala, but english is also available) ah, so... author? Let's say... an anonymous donor to the public domain ;) A big thank you to everybody and in this occasion especially to Damien for his great work. Cheers, Pau
Re: Any OpenBSD users in Berlin?
http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscw=2r=1s=berlinq=b I am (very) unfortunately leaving Berlin in 20 days, though... probably one of the worst tragedies of my life 2007/11/23, Siju George [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, If there are any OpenBSD users in Berlin could you please contact me off list please? Thank you so much :-) Kind Regards Siju
apm -S against apm -z?
Hi, I have created a fat partition to use tphdisk etc etc... and I don't really know what the difference is between apm -S and apm -z. The man page says it is -S Put the system into stand-by (light sleep) state. -z Put the system into suspend (deep sleep) state. I was expecting that deep sleep means you can remove the battery and plug off the laptop, never mind, when you plug it again and press the power bottom, it will wake up and still be there. But not. Can you explain me the subtle differences between -S and -z? The only thing I can tell is that with -z the moon light of my thinkpad is off and with -S it is on. And I really don't know whether apm -z is what tphdisk enables, or is there any other third possibility? There's no manual entry for tphdisk. Pau
Re: Powered by obsd stickers and other stuff
what about painted puffy? it's been there for a while... http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Powered+by+OpenBSD?content=61218 2007/11/10, Jona Joachim [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 01:18:42 +0100, Iqigo Tejedor Arrondo wrote: Hello all Some art, at slw spanish foul asymetric connection. The sources are xcf, at 1600x1200. Clarify that I am not a designer :) I have make the typical Powered by stickers: http://inigo.homeunix.net/files/art/powered_by_puffy_black.png http://inigo.homeunix.net/files/art/powered_by_puffy_grey.png I hope that those stickers replace the vista compatible of the developers laptops :) There are some backgrounds: A blue rounded gradient with puffy: http://inigo.homeunix.net/files/art/background_blue_puff_1024x768.png http://inigo.homeunix.net/files/art/background_blue_puffy_text_1024x768.png At first I thought you just copied that one: http://www.openbsd-france.org/reposit/wallpapers/openbsd_yellow.png and I wanted to accuse you of plagiarism but then I noticed there are some differences between the two pictures :) The pictures are quite nice. I especially like the old picture filter one. The half wire / half red beastie looks kinda strange :) Best regards, Jona -- I am chaos. I am the substance from which your artists and scientists build rhythms. I am the spirit with which your children and clowns laugh in happy anarchy. I am chaos. I am alive, and tell you that you are free. Eris, Goddess Of Chaos, Discord Confusion
Re: Thinkpad t61 OpenBSD support?
is it a T61 or something else, like T61s? it can be a difference in terms of supported hardware; you'll have to decide between -current or 4.2 At least it is the case of x61 and x61s: http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/openbsd-misc/2007/9/11/211298 2007/11/7, Girish Venkatachalam [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 23:10:35 Nov 06, Predrag Punosevac wrote: You should not pay more than $1000 including taxes and shipping for ThinkPAD T61. The prices vary a lot from web-site to web-site, from store to store and from one week to another. Hmmm... Actually have you heard of Black Friday? No. This is the first day of Christmas sales (right after the Thanks Giving Holiday) when you can get killer deals if you know what are you doing. This year Black Friday is 23 of November (I think). Great. :) 23 Nov is just round the corner. Perfect timing. The best web-site for computer parts in states is www.newegg.com but they also sell laptops and complete PCs. Geeks.com often have killer deals on older stuff. I shall ask him to order from newegg then. I have used that site before. Thanks for your reply. Much appreciated. Best, Girish
Re: wifiprobe script
PS: No offense, please I also have seen/read a lot of critics to obsd for not having a couple of tools for doing such things. I hope this helps obsd a bit ahem... the tools are ALREADY there, of course, and they're fantastic (ifconfig, dhclient, and all iwi, iwn, ipw Damien wrote!) what I of course mean is something like a wrapper... for all those tools, since I personally sometimes have problems remembering the different options and I'm in a hurry or just a stupid lazybones to do man bla
wifiprobe script
Hi,
I use very frequently the wireless to connect to different nets and I
have a script for personal use which probably (??) could be useful for
some of you. At least some of the misc people I know asked me to post
this here.
I also have seen/read a lot of critics to obsd for not having a couple
of tools for doing such things. I hope this helps obsd a bit (???).
In any case, I hope I don't overwhelm your inbox with unwished spam. I
am sure that a lot of you have already done something similar...
This script is thought to help you find the different available
connections (named beams for historical reasons) where you happen to
be when you execute it. It will display them in the following order:
1- Public connections (i.e. without wep key)
2- Secured connections (i.e. with wep)
They are also shown in order according to the strength of the signal
and then you're prompted to choose the number of the beam you wish to
connect to. Of course, if a wep password is required, you will be
asked for it. Afterwards it'll connect to it.
Please note that you will have to modify the script to
a- select your IFACE (in my case iwi0)
b- select your LANG (in my case catala, but english is also available)
ah, so... author? Let's say... an anonymous donor to the public domain ;)
A big thank you to everybody and in this occasion especially to Damien
for his great work.
Cheers,
Pau
#!/bin/sh
#
#
# wifiprobe ver 0.1
#
# Copyright (c) 2007 anonymous donor to the public domain
#
# BSD license and disclaimers apply.
#
# Do not change to zsh; it will break. There are subtle differences.
#
# This script should be installed with execute permissions, and
# be invoked by name.
#
# Developed under and for OpenBSD 4.1 9/2007
#
#-
#
# helper functions
#
#-
function parseit
{
local therest
shift 1
beamname=$1
shift 1
therest=$*
IFS=
set $therest
shift 4
sigstrength=$1
shift 1
}
function readprobe
{
#
# this was not as easy to write as it looks
#
local Foo
while read Foo
do
IFS=
if echo $Foo | grep -q \ ; then
IFS=\
fi
parseit $Foo
beam[nbeam]=${beamname}
strength[nbeam]=${sigstrength%dB}
# printf %4d\t%-32s\t%s\t%s\n $nbeam ${beam[$nbeam]}
$sigstrength ${strength[nbeam]}
nbeam=$(($nbeam+1))
done
}
function sortandprint
{
typeset tempnm
typeset tempst
typeset -i i
typeset -i j
typeset -i inc
typeset -i n
typeset -i s
s=$1
n=$2
# s is offset in arrays where sort starts
# n is number of items to sort
# In other words, sort elements $s to $s + $n
#
# Implement a Shell sort. In ksh. Painful. All the write-only jive-notation
# of perl, none of the functionality.
#
if [ $n -eq 0 ]; then
echo $MSG9
return
fi
inc=$(($n/2))
while [ $inc -gt 0 ]
do
i=$inc
while [ $i -lt $n ]
do
j=$i
tempst=${strength[$(($i+$s))]}
tempnm=${beam[$(($i+$s))]}
#
# to change the sense of the sort, change the second test.
# use -lt for biggest first, -gt for smallest first.
#
while [[ $j -ge $inc ${strength[$(($j+$s-$inc))]} -lt $tempst ]]
do
strength[$(($j+$s))]=${strength[$(($j+$s-$inc))]}
beam[$(($j+$s))]=${beam[$(($j+$s-$inc))]}
j=$(($j-$inc))
done
strength[$(($j+$s))]=$tempst
beam[$(($j+$s))]=$tempnm
i=$(($i+1))
done
if [ $inc -eq 2 ]; then
inc=1
else
inc=$(($inc/2))
fi
done
i=$s
while [ $i -lt $(($n+$s)) ]
do
printf %4d %-32s\t%3d dB\n $(($i+1)) ${beam[$i]} ${strength[$i]}
i=$(($i+1))
done
}
cleanup ()
{
if [ -t 0 -a -t 1 ]; then
stty sane
fi
rm -f ${TMPPROBE}
exit
}
#-
#
# main part of the script
#
#-
LANG=catala
progname=`basename $0`
if [ X$LANG = Xenglish ]; then
MSG1=$progname: Wireless access selection for device:
MSG2=Available public beams
MSG3=Available secured beams
MSG4=$progname: no wireless beams found
MSG5=choice out of range
MSG6=try again
MSG7=public access beam selected
MSG8=$progname: not interactive and no public beams
MSG9=none probed
MSG10=usage: $progname [interface_name]
CHOOSEPROMPT=Select beam
PASSPROMPT=Password for
elif [ X$LANG = Xcatala ] ; then
MSG1=$progname: Dispositu de xarxa sense fil:
MSG2=Xarxes obertes disponibles
MSG3=Xarxes tancades detectades
MSG4=$progname: No hi ha cap xarxa disponible
MSG5=La xarxa que has triat no es troba en la llista
MSG6=mira de fer-ho una altra vegada...
MSG7=Has triat una xarxa oberta
Re: how to support Intel 965?
su mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.original startx does it work? 2007/11/3, 23号 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, my notebook's dmesg: OpenBSD 4.2 (GENERIC) #375: Tue Aug 28 10:38:44 MDT 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5250 @ 1.50GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.50 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,EST,TM2,CX16,xTPR real mem = 1064574976 (1015MB) avail mem = 1021739008 (974MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 06/25/07, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xf0010, SMBIOS rev. 2.4 @ 0xf06a0 (34 entries) bios0: vendor American Megatrends Inc. version 0042date 06/25/2007 bios0: ASUSTeK Computer INC. Z62E pcibios0 at bios0: rev 3.0 @ 0xf/0x1 pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xf7fd0/208 (11 entries) pcibios0: no compatible PCI ICU found: ICU vendor 0x8086 product 0x2815 pcibios0: Warning, unable to fix up PCI interrupt routing pcibios0: PCI bus #4 is the last bus bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xee00! acpi at mainbus0 not configured cpu0 at mainbus0 cpu0: unknown Enhanced SpeedStep CPU, msr 0x0613092806000928 cpu0: using only highest and lowest power states cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 1500 MHz (1340 mV): speeds: 1500, 1000 MHz pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82965GM MCH rev 0x03 vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel 82965GM Video rev 0x03: aperture at 0xd000, size 0x800 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) Intel 82965GM Video rev 0x03 at pci0 dev 2 function 1 not configured uhci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 0 Intel 82801H USB rev 0x03: irq 10 uhci1 at pci0 dev 26 function 1 Intel 82801H USB rev 0x03: irq 7 ehci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 7 Intel 82801H USB rev 0x03: irq 11 usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0: Intel EHCI root hub, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 Intel 82801H HD Audio rev 0x03: irq 3 azalia0: host: High Definition Audio rev. 1.0 azalia0: codec: Realtek ALC883 (rev. 0.2), HDA version 1.0 azalia0: codec: 0x1543/0x3155 (rev. 7.0), HDA version 1.0 azalia0: codec[1]: No support for modem function groups azalia0: codec[1]: No audio function groups audio0 at azalia0 ppb0 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 82801H PCIE rev 0x03 pci1 at ppb0 bus 3 ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 2 Intel 82801H PCIE rev 0x03 pci2 at ppb1 bus 1 uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801H USB rev 0x03: irq 15 uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801H USB rev 0x03: irq 5 uhci4 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 Intel 82801H USB rev 0x03: irq 11 ehci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801H USB rev 0x03: irq 15 ehci1: timed out waiting for BIOS usb1 at ehci1: USB revision 2.0 uhub1 at usb1: Intel EHCI root hub, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 ppb2 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BAM Hub-to-PCI rev 0xf3 pci3 at ppb2 bus 4 Ricoh 5C832 Firewire rev 0x05 at pci3 dev 1 function 0 not configured sdhc0 at pci3 dev 1 function 1 Ricoh 5C822 SD/MMC rev 0x22: irq 7 sdmmc0 at sdhc0 Ricoh 5C843 rev 0x12 at pci3 dev 1 function 2 not configured Ricoh 5C592 Memory Stick rev 0x12 at pci3 dev 1 function 3 not configured Ricoh 5C852 xD rev 0x12 at pci3 dev 1 function 4 not configured re0 at pci3 dev 7 function 0 Realtek 8169SC rev 0x10: RTL8169/8110SCd (0x1800), irq 11, address 00:1b:fc:b6:71:55 rgephy0 at re0 phy 7: RTL8169S/8110S PHY, rev. 2 ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel 82801HBM LPC rev 0x03: PM disabled pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 1 Intel 82801HBM IDE rev 0x03: DMA, channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0 scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: QSI, DVD+-RW SDW-082S, LX06 SCSI0 5/cdrom removable cd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2 pciide0: channel 1 ignored (disabled) ahci0 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 Intel 82801HBM SATA rev 0x03: irq 11, AHCI 1.1 scsibus1 at ahci0: 32 targets sd0 at scsibus1 targ 0 lun 0: ATA, SAMSUNG HM120JI, YF10 SCSI2 0/direct fixed sd0: 114473MB, 14593 cyl, 255 head, 63 sec, 512 bytes/sec, 234441648 sec total ichiic0 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 Intel 82801H SMBus rev 0x03: irq 5 iic0 at ichiic0 usb2 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub2 at usb2: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 usb3 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub3 at usb3: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 usb4 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0 uhub4 at usb4: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 usb5 at uhci3: USB revision 1.0 uhub5 at usb5: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 usb6 at uhci4: USB revision 1.0 uhub6 at usb6: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 isa0 at ichpcib0 isadma0 at isa0 pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
Re: apm -S freezes the laptop
Conclusions: I thought it could be the ati driver First I tried to change it with the vesa one and it suspended very quickly; only X was not displayed correctly. So that I thought I could give X a chance to run on the fly (without xorg.conf) and 1- the laptop is suspending/ resuming the old thinkpad way (i.e. in a fraction of a second) 2- X is looking just as good as when using xorg.conf + vesa driver 3- But there is still a random power-off After some minutes the laptop decides to power-off; as fast as if it had been plugged without battery and you pulled out the power cable. sigh... Pau
Re: apm -S freezes the laptop
merda! in the middle of writing an email the laptop powered off! exactly the same behaviour I had when typing zzz or apm -S ?? I had to boot and, of course, the filesystem didn't like it at all... I'm going to try to update the bios, but I am not very positive... 2007/11/2, Pau Amaro-Seoane [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It IS suspending I was too impatient! it takes some seconds, whilst in the thinkpads is a fraction of second, but it is suspending N I C E But it only suspends when I press fn + moon (which is F1) anyway... good news, it seems Pau
Re: apm -S freezes the laptop
It IS suspending I was too impatient! it takes some seconds, whilst in the thinkpads is a fraction of second, but it is suspending N I C E But it only suspends when I press fn + moon (which is F1) anyway... good news, it seems Pau
apm -S freezes the laptop
Hi, this is a fujitsu siemens amilo 1425M; dmesg can be read here www.aei.mpg.de/~pau/dmesg_FJS_Amilo1425.txt (OpenBSD 4.2, installed today from CD) ok... I changed apmd flags to apmd_flags= because I noticed that when I close the lid, the suspend light blinks and the screen gets black and so remains it until I press again the power bottom. I hoped that, maybe, the laptop could suspend via apm. But the result is different. Closing the lid yields the same result, but if I type apm -S or zzz, the laptop will die in a millifraction of second. I press enter and almost immediately PUF! the whole laptop is powered off; I mean _everything_ Not even the light charging (plugged) is on (even if it's plugged, of course) Is there any hope that this laptop suspends? I'm just asking because... sigh... suspending under OpenBSD is my dream... cheers, Pau
Re: apm -S freezes the laptop
hehe... yes... this is indeed the reason that makes me think about thinkpads (up to T43p; from that model onwards, bye-bye, suspend) I have the feeling that only thinkpads suspend under openbsd... of course, some other models in the laptop page say the contrary... btw, how old is that page? I submitted some entries some months ago and don't see anything... worrying about. It's likely not going to work. Sssh, don't tell my X40.
Re: First install: Grub doesn't find partitions
Hi, I don't quite understand what you're doing? Are you looking for a dual-boot with linux via grub? If so, have a look at www.aei.mpg.de/~pau/zen_process_obsd.html Read it in detail. If not, just forget this mail. Cheers, Pau 2007/10/29, Bertram Scharpf [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi again, Am Montag, 29. Okt 2007, 02:38:08 +0100 schrieb Bertram Scharpf: I just installed OpenBSD on a i386 from cd41.iso as described in the FAQ, chapter 4. When I restart the system from the CD all OpenBSD partitions show up properly and I can chroot into /mnt after I mounted them. However, Grub refuses to recognize any of the OpenBSD partitions. A Linux resides on the same disk that cannot mount any of these partitions either. Here is a `sfdisk' (Linux) output: /dev/hdb1 : start=1, size=32255, Id=83 /dev/hdb2 : start=32256, size= 2096640, Id=82 /dev/hdb3 : start= 2128896, size=117974304, Id= 5 /dev/hdb4 : start=0, size=0, Id= 0 /dev/hdb5 : start= 2128897, size= 4194287, Id=83 /dev/hdb6 : start= 6323185, size= 37748591, Id=a6, bootable /dev/hdb7 : start= 44071777, size= 76031423, Id=8e And here is what I entered into `disklabel': start size mountpoint wd1a 6323185 524159/ wd1b 6847344 524160(swap) wd1d 7371504 524160/tmp wd1e 7895664 12582864/usr wd1f 204785288388576/home First of all thanks to the off-list responders. I already considered the chainloader option but as I installed no bootloader this probably would not work. I examined the Grub source code to find out where it looks for BSD partitions. I found there is a sector containing the BSD magic label and appropriate partitioning info. It's sector 1, the second one on the disk == the first in slice /dev/hdb1 or (hd1,0), respectively. Arrgh! Sectors 6323185 and 6323186 are still untouched. I tried to use the 'b' command in 'disklabel -E ..' but nothing went better. I dd'ed sector 1 to 6323186 and voila - there they are. Could this be the correct way that I first have to damage another partition and then manually have to move a sector? When booting this system I run into the next problem: panic: /boot too old: upgrade! Therefore I would like to try to install a bootloader and chainload it. But with a 'disklabel' that overwrites existing partitions? Do I have to get used to struggle with such fundamental problems when I proceed with OpenBSD? Thank for reading so far, Bertram -- Bertram Scharpf Stuttgart, Deutschland/Germany http://www.bertram-scharpf.de
Re: First install: Grub doesn't find partitions
I am writing this from a dual-boot system with linux only and I never had your problem. 2007/10/29, michael hamerski [EMAIL PROTECTED]: is it a recent grub? if you're reading grub source I will assume you know more about it than I do, but am writing this on a box which boots debian/openbsd/xp without problems, from grub installed circa 6 months ago. I certainly did not dd any sectors around. I can send you my grub conf when I reboot next. mike
Re: First install: Grub doesn't find partitions
indeed... you seem not to have read the site I pointed to previously. Don't say you have read it if you didn't. The information is there. Do what Andrew says and tag it as A6; i.e. openbsd from the linux fdisk This is *also* written in the web page 2007/10/29, Andrew Daugherity [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 10/28/07, Bertram Scharpf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: grub root (hd1,^I Possible partitions are: Partition num: 0, Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83 Partition num: 1, Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x82 Partition num: 4, Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83 Partition num: 5, No BSD sub-partition found, partition type 0xa6 Partition num: 6, Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x8e grub root (hd1,5,a) Error 5: Partition table invalid or corrupt grub rootnoverify (hd1,5,a) grub cat / Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition Here is a `sfdisk' (Linux) output: /dev/hdb1 : start=1, size=32255, Id=83 /dev/hdb2 : start=32256, size= 2096640, Id=82 /dev/hdb3 : start= 2128896, size=117974304, Id= 5 /dev/hdb4 : start=0, size=0, Id= 0 /dev/hdb5 : start= 2128897, size= 4194287, Id=83 /dev/hdb6 : start= 6323185, size= 37748591, Id=a6, bootable /dev/hdb7 : start= 44071777, size= 76031423, Id=8e I think this is your problem -- the OpenBSD partition needs to be a primary partition (hda1-hda4 in Linux terminology, or (hd0,1) - (hd0,3) in GRUB language, and you have it as an extended partition (hdb6). This is not supported. Reallocated your fdisk partitions so the OpenBSD partition is a primary partition and reinstall (you may have to resize your extended partition, ID=5, to make room). Andrew
Re: First install: Grub doesn't find partitions
Thanks a lot for your patience when I became fretful. I also become very usually fretful when something that SHOULD be working is as stubborn as to refuse to do it. I know it. Oh, yes... and how... glad to read that it worked for you! Pau 2007/10/29, Bertram Scharpf [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Am Montag, 29. Okt 2007, 11:54:23 -0500 schrieb Andrew Daugherity: On 10/28/07, Bertram Scharpf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: grub root (hd1,^I ... Partition num: 5, No BSD sub-partition found, partition type 0xa6 ... Here is a `sfdisk' (Linux) output: /dev/hdb1 : start=1, size=32255, Id=83 /dev/hdb2 : start=32256, size= 2096640, Id=82 /dev/hdb3 : start= 2128896, size=117974304, Id= 5 /dev/hdb4 : start=0, size=0, Id= 0 /dev/hdb5 : start= 2128897, size= 4194287, Id=83 /dev/hdb6 : start= 6323185, size= 37748591, Id=a6, bootable /dev/hdb7 : start= 44071777, size= 76031423, Id=8e I think this is your problem -- the OpenBSD partition needs to be a primary partition (hda1-hda4 in Linux terminology, or (hd0,1) - (hd0,3) in GRUB language, and you have it as an extended partition (hdb6). This is not supported. Reallocated your fdisk partitions so the OpenBSD partition is a primary partition and reinstall (you may have to resize your extended partition, ID=5, to make room). Those @#$! extended partitions! It's really time for me to get rid of that kind of programming style. I tried it out on another machine where I had a free primary partition. Hoolay--it boots! Moving partitions around on the machine described above will take some time but I will try it in any case and I will report. Thanks a lot for your patience when I became fretful. Bertram -- Bertram Scharpf Stuttgart, Deutschland/Germany http://www.bertram-scharpf.de
Re: linux kills laptop hard drive... how does obsd behave?
Hey, I'm sure you are totally right! It just struck me a bit silly sounding, and since he's a self proclaimed newbee, and me being willing to constructively help others, I thought it be good to know that there's a simple way around the issue. yes, but this is not a linux mailing list and, as you pointed out, the answer is in the links he posted; he cannot be that silly. The answer he was asking for was what Stuart Henderson posted. And I was also interested; so that many thanks, Stuart t did not strike me as a very informed comment. More like what a reporter would say. yes, he described himself as amateur, so give him a break on his very first post ;) I love both Linux and OpenBSD and I also hate them. this is indeed true; I have arrived to the conclusion that I hate computers, full stop. But I certainly appreciate a lot what obsd gives me. I cannot rely on linux, it behaves randomly, but I don't want to start a flame war things that drive me batty about both and things that I would not want to be I saw the new MAC the other day and for the few minutes I spent on it it came across as a very slick user interface. really, I don't want to start one :) The same applies to our friend here who might never look at whatever O/S's he might have left behind him. let's see what he says. Cheers, Pau
Re: linux kills laptop hard drive... how does obsd behave?
Well, the entire thread was started as Linux killing hard disks, wasn't it? and asking for Obsd information... :) what about A4an0's question? I've been running OpenBSD on my laptop for about a month (I've had 3 servers o it since 3.1) and I havn't noticed an issue like the one you're talking about. Can anyone confirm or deny this? How can you see how often the disc was parked under OpenBSD? This guy here makes a summary (full with too much emotion, as usual): http://beranger.org/index.php?page=diary2007/10/24/18/07/21-it-s-confirmed-gutsy-is-killing-
current and fluxbox
Hi, I made a fresh install of current some five days ago and when I tried to install fluxbox I get: # pkg_add fluxbox Can't install imlib2-1.4.0: lib not found png.6.0 Dependencies for imlib2-1.4.0 resolve to: png-1.2.18, bzip2-1.0.4, libid3tag-0.15.1bp0, jpeg-6bp3, libungif-4.1.4p1, tiff-3.8.2p0 Full dependency tree is png-1.2.18,bzip2-1.0.4,libid3tag-0.15.1bp0,jpeg-6bp3,libungif-4.1.4p1,tiff-3.8.2p0 png.6.0: partial match in /usr/local/lib: major=5, minor=2 (bad major) Can't install fluxbox-0.9.15.1p0: can't resolve imlib2-1.4.0 I have tried different ftp mirrors (even the master one) in these days but I get the same problem all the time. I *know* that this is normal if you're following current but I wonder whether it can take so long (i.e. almost a week) to fix the dependencies. Again, feel free to stone me. If my language is offensive it's a matter of not being native in English. The email is meant to be very nice. I need current because of my bleedy-edge hardware (eek!). Cheers, Pau
Re: current and fluxbox
thanks for the answer! Pau 2007/10/24, Stuart Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 2007/10/24 11:31, Pau Amaro-Seoane wrote: I have tried different ftp mirrors (even the master one) in these days but I get the same problem all the time. At the moment, you need to build your own from ports or wait a while. There have been some changed libraries recently and it will take a while for new package snaps to finish. I *know* that this is normal if you're following current but I wonder whether it can take so long (i.e. almost a week) to fix the dependencies. Yes - as well as actually building the packages, they must be transferred to the ftp servers, which can be up to 4gb or so for some arch, and this takes some time.
Re: Help with LiveCD/LIveDVD
Hi,
I hope you succeed. I'd be very itnerested in a live cd/dvd for obsd.
As you say, it's ideal to test hardware, but I don't have to time to
do it myself. Btw, why obsd 4.1?
Do you plan to upload the iso to some site? There were some projects,
like quetzal and olivebsd, but they died, I think.
good luck,
Pau
2007/10/22, Ted M. Goodridge, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hello all,
Please CC to me directly as I am offlist...
I am building a LiveCD/LiveDVD based on OpenBSD 4.1 snapshot. I know this
is an unofficial page, but I followed the instructions here:
http://openbsd-wiki.org/index.php?title=LiveCD
I'm using 4.1 because of the libraries required on the LiveDVD. This
LiveDVD is used for in-house hardware diagnostics with customized programs
written for BSD. I thought it would be easier to boot from CD rather than
installing OpenBSD on every machine we need to use as a hardware testbed.
The only changes I made to the above instructions were to copy the
backup/{} directories instead of tar'ing them and unzipping them.
Everything works fine until the hang on boot with the message: Loading
CBDR.. The disc then fails to boot.
Relevant info:
---
I'm burning a re-writable DVD using the above instructions
The mkisofs command to burn the image is as follows:
/usr/local/bin/mkisofs -no-iso-translate -R -T -allow-leading-dots -l -d
-D -N -v -b cdbr -no-emul-boot -c boot.catalog -o /tmp/livecd.iso /livecd
Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'm pushing against a deadline, so
any tips / pointers / suggestions are also appreciated.
Ted Goodridge
OpenBSD Berlin
Hi, I have plenty of time between next 1/11 ~ 5/11; who wants to meet in Berlin, in Tuffstein to celebrate the 12th birthday of OpenBSD? (Leberstrasse 2, Schoeneberg): http://maps.google.com/maps?f=qhl=cageocode=time=date=ttype=q=leberstrasse+2,+berlin,+germanysll=37.0625,-95.677068sspn=31.095668,81.5625ie=UTF8ll=52.486413,13.361478spn=0.011655,0.039825z=15om=1 Remember that we have our own mailing list thanks to Gabriel: -- http://www.abc.se/mailman/listinfo/openbsd-berlin -- I am posting here in order to draw the attention of potential new members Cheers, Pau
Re: cp(1) bug ?
penguin's behaviour:
elachistos| cp -R foo foo
cp: cannot copy a directory, `foo', into itself, `foo/foo'
:)
2007/10/19, Arnaud Berthomier [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On the October 17, at 10:39 (-0700), Bryan Irvine wrote:
[...]
looks like a feature to me. ;)
Agreed, although it does not seem to exists on GNU/Linux since GNU's cp
is different from BSD's. The feature is present on {Net,Open,Free}BSD.
It's not that a big deal, is it? Eventually, the question could be: what
should be limiting cp there? a max_path value, or... himself? I think
the former's the best.
Just my 2 cents. :)
--
B+ A nation is a society united by a delusion about it's ancestry and by
common hatred of its neighbours. B;-- Dean William R. Inge
Re: Skype on OpenBSD 4.1 using Fedora RPM
www.aei.mpg.de/~pau/skype.png (BIG png, watch out, I don't want to kill your modem connection) was working fine. I installed it as an exercise and then deleted it... because I don't use it Cheers, Pau 2007/9/21, Siju George [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 9/20/07, Siju George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Is there anybody successfully using skype on OpenBSD 4.1 using Linux emulation? If so which RPM are you using? O.K with the help of Martynas Venckus I got Skype running on 4.1 had to copy libasound.so.2 = /usr/lib/libasound.so.2 libsigc-2.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libsigc-2.0.so.0 to the openbsd system as told in http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=compat_linuxsektion=8 Had problems with running skype. Martynas helped me there too :-) Thanks a million friend. When you restart skype you cannot login as it would give the error Another skype instance may exist so the work around followed now is wipe out whole ~/.Skype directory and it works again. I can chat but cannot make phone calls It gives the error Call Failed : Problem with audio playback Thank ou so much :-) Kind Regards Siju
Re: OpenBSD Install Goal
Please don't touch the installer. It's just perfect. I have tried tons of different unix/linux OS's before I saw The Light and, pay attention, NONE of them was as reliable/robust/quick as OpenBSD's And guess... FreeBSD is getting a graphical installer: http://blogs.freebsdish.org/ivoras/2007/08/29/finstall-alpha-version/ OpenBSD, along with the venerable and respectable linux slackare, is going to be one of the last bastions. Please no fancy installers, please no fancy GUIs!! Regarding multibooting, I struggled with this a bit and then decided to put _all_ information in a kind of summary. If you want to have a look: http://www.aei.mpg.de/~pau/zen_process_obsd.html This is meant for people wishing to migrate from linux to OpenBSD, as I did. The INSTALL.linux was too... spartan for me. Dave helped me and I put together the information. I hope this helps somebody. keep the installer as it is Pau 2007/9/14, Paul de Weerd [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 08:36:11AM +0100, Stuart Henderson wrote: | On 2007/09/14 12:55, Edwards, David (JTS) wrote: | Have you ever tried to do an install of FreeBSD/Linux using a 9600 | serial console? | | Oh thanks, I'd been trying to erase that from memory (-: | FreeBSD, 9600 serial, PXE boot. Took the best part of a day... I hardly notice the difference when installing OpenBSD over serial (vs over glass console). It's the same amazing graceful text-only interface that asks me some basic questions and installs fine. Indeed, the only 'hard' part is when it comes to partitioning, especially when multibooting. But once you've done this a couple of times and you know how it works, you'll learn to dislike all the other installers for being way to complicated. Thanks guys ! Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd -- [++-]+++.+++[---].+++[+ +++-].++[-]+.--.[-] http://www.weirdnet.nl/
Re: OpenBSD Install Goal
PS: From http://wiki.freebsd.org/finstall/Amnesiac the novice track, meaning as little interaction with the user as possible This is what I meant... 2007/9/14, Pau Amaro-Seoane [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Please don't touch the installer. It's just perfect. I have tried tons of different unix/linux OS's before I saw The Light and, pay attention, NONE of them was as reliable/robust/quick as OpenBSD's And guess... FreeBSD is getting a graphical installer: http://blogs.freebsdish.org/ivoras/2007/08/29/finstall-alpha-version/ OpenBSD, along with the venerable and respectable linux slackare, is going to be one of the last bastions. Please no fancy installers, please no fancy GUIs!! Regarding multibooting, I struggled with this a bit and then decided to put _all_ information in a kind of summary. If you want to have a look: http://www.aei.mpg.de/~pau/zen_process_obsd.html This is meant for people wishing to migrate from linux to OpenBSD, as I did. The INSTALL.linux was too... spartan for me. Dave helped me and I put together the information. I hope this helps somebody. keep the installer as it is Pau
Re: Running 4.2? [was Re: CD files - order question]
having read and understood that, you should know that for most people -current is more than good enough to work with. I am always running -current in my production system and do not see any major (nor minor) problem. Well, if you want to try the vry lastest drivers of X then you'll have to ask for them explicitly and do it all by yourself (compile, CVS etc) instead of just downloading the kernel from a snapshot obsd ftp server. I know that comparisons are stupid but I am an ex linux user and I have never seen/ had the robustness of -current in any -stable release of the linux world... So, if you want e.g. the newest azalia codec, don't hesitate and run -current. It's also a nice way to support the project... this way you help to test the driver Cheers, Pau 2007/9/12, Greg Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 9/11/07, Aaron W. Hsu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hrm, I think this clarifies one thing... [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: 1. Once you run a -current, you cannot go backwards. This is repeated over and over in the FAQ. 2. New features do not get moved into -stable. I was under the impression that the current snapshots were still under the 4.2 heading, and as such, were not actually ahead of the 4.2 release. I guess I misunderstood here. Of course, I'm well aware of the particular FAQ. :-) The new features I am talking about are not the features after stable, but the feature list that is currently listed in 4.2. Those are features that I want to use now, but I want to make sure that I can move easily to 4.2-STABLE when it is released. Are you saying that there is no way for me to get the features in 4.2 now without running -CURRENT, which will require me to reinstall (as opposed to upgrade) when 4.2 is released? If you're running recent snapshots then you are running -CURRENT and as Theo mentions above: ...but beware since -current is now ahead of what the upcoming release will be, and that may not be what you want -- almost a thousand commits have already happened to it. -RELEASE would have been sent to the presses awhile back and development continues on from 4.2. You're past that point. The options are to continue with -CURRENT or start fresh with -RELEASE. Greg -- Ticketmaster and Ticketweb suck, but everyone knows that: http://ticketmastersucks.org Dethink to survive - Mclusky
Re: how get colour mutt when ssh from OBSD?
yes... it doesn't help I thought left-clicking on the xterm, and selecting Backarrow Key (BS/DEL) would do it, and afterwards typing `stty erase ` and then ctrl-v and then hitting backspace and enter... but that's only for xterm. What, if you're using a different terminal, like aterm, eterm, konsole or gnome-terminal? you don't have that menu... I also saw this... but... don't know... http://www.hypexr.org/linux_roboff.php Did you use TERM=screen on both ends of the ssh, i.e. on OBSD before ssh and on linux after ssh? Try TERM=screen. I didn't know about the backspace to scroll up; I just use page up. I just tried it and yes it works with TERM=screen. Note that I can't use TERM=xterm* since I'm not using X for this. Doug.
unix on lenovos
Hi, there's a poll about which linux (please read here UNIX) you'd like to see preinstalled/supported on the lenovos thinkpads http://lenovoblogs.com/insidethebox/?p=98 You'll notice that Mark Kohut (Lenovo's worldwide analyst) cannot tell the difference between linux and BSD (both freebsd and openbsd fall in the category of linux) but, in any case, maybe you feel like clicking the OpenBSD entry... I did Cheers, Pau Amaro-Seoane
Re: lenovo thinkpad x61s support for wireless + sound
you'll not have sound if you install now -current As Deanna said, she has to check still a couple of things. I can upload my bsd.mp and bsd somewhere, if you wish, but I guess it's more sensible to wait until she has really finished. I have to test her patches still a bit... we should have a bit of patience... on the other hand I can understand you, of course! I couldn't wait myself! :) Cheers, Pau Amaro Seoane (Vim) Thanks Vim, Deanna and Damien! I just bought an x61 last week and was wondering what to do about wireless. Now I know. I'll install -current ASAP and let you know how it goes. Cheers! Aaron P.S. Also looking forward to my 4.2 goodies! Vim Visual wrote: Hi, I just wanted to report that today and after gallons of sweat and blood and some 14 compiled kernels to test the drivers and patches of Damien Bergamini (iwn0) and Deanna Phillips (azalia) (and correct a lot of mistakes I made), I finally got my brand new lenovo thinkpad wireless device (Intel 4965AGN) and sound card (Intel 82801H HD) to work with OpenBSD -current. Volume up/ down work perfectly (on terminal, for X it'll be more tricky, depends on your WM, but mute does work both in X and no-X). I have seen some people complaining on the difficulty of wireless management in obsd; I am writing a script now to simplify it and I'll post it as soon as I have it running. By the way, the keys for light up/down works just out of the box. So... don't hesitate and get a new lnovo thinkpad x61s! Cheers, Pau Amaro-Seoane
Re: how get colour mutt when ssh from OBSD?
yes, I tried this before I posted here but no way... it's not working in my case... mmmh... thanks anyway Try TERM=screen. I didn't know about the backspace to scroll up; I just use page up. I just tried it and yes it works with TERM=screen. Note that I can't use TERM=xterm* since I'm not using X for this. Doug.
Re: apmd -f /dev/acpi?
Hi, to summarise again my problem... My goal is to be able to suspend (zzz/ apm -S). apm0 is not supported in this laptop. Then I thought of trying to set up apmd over /dev/acpi with the current kernel I downloaded from ftp.openbsd.org - current (both bsd and bsd.mp) to have the latest version (I know that there has been a lot of progress in acpi in the last weeks) I boot with the -c option, enable acpi and when I log in I try to do sudo apmd -f /dev/acpi to see whether I am lucky and can suspend this way. It doesn't. I just want to ask you whether you see something wrong. Cheers, Pau These are my dmesg... --- This is dmesg generic OpenBSD 4.0 (GENERIC) #1107: Sat Sep 16 19:15:58 MDT 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.20GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.21 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,TM,SBF,EST,TM2 cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 1200 MHz (940 mV): speeds: 1200, 1100, 1000, 900, 800, 600 MHz real mem = 1063809024 (1038876K) avail mem = 962383872 (939828K) using 4256 buffers containing 53293056 bytes (52044K) of memory mainbus0 (root) bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(ba) BIOS, date 05/09/05, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfd720, SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xe80c0 (43 entries) bios0: FUJITSU SIEMENS 00 pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xfd720/0x8e0 pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfdf40/160 (8 entries) pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:31:0 (Intel 82371FB ISA rev 0x00) pcibios0: PCI bus #3 is the last bus bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xd200! 0xdc000/0x4000! cpu0 at mainbus0 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82852GM Hub-PCI rev 0x02 Intel 82852GM Memory rev 0x02 at pci0 dev 0 function 1 not configured Intel 82852GM Configuration rev 0x02 at pci0 dev 0 function 3 not configured vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel 82852GM AGP rev 0x02: aperture at 0xd800, size 0x800 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) Intel 82852GM AGP rev 0x02 at pci0 dev 2 function 1 not configured uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801DB USB rev 0x03: irq 11 usb0 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0 at usb0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801DB USB rev 0x03: irq 11 usb1 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801DB USB rev 0x03: irq 11 usb2 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub2 at usb2 uhub2: Intel EHCI root hub, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered ppb0 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BAM Hub-to-PCI rev 0x83 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 cbb0 at pci1 dev 10 function 0 Ricoh 5C476 CardBus rev 0xab: irq 11 cbb1 at pci1 dev 10 function 1 Ricoh 5C476 CardBus rev 0xab: irq 11 Ricoh 5C552 Firewire rev 0x03 at pci1 dev 10 function 2 not configured vendor Ricoh, unknown product 0x0576 (class system subclass miscellaneous, rev 0x01) at pci1 dev 10 function 3 not configured Ricoh 5C592 Memory Stick rev 0x00 at pci1 dev 10 function 4 not configured rl0 at pci1 dev 12 function 0 Realtek 8139 rev 0x10: irq 11, address 00:0b:5d:91:6d:e8 rlphy0 at rl0 phy 0: RTL internal PHY iwi0 at pci1 dev 13 function 0 Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG rev 0x05: irq 11, address 00:0e:35:34:e3:60 cardslot0 at cbb0 slot 0 flags 0 cardbus0 at cardslot0: bus 2 device 0 cacheline 0x0, lattimer 0x20 pcmcia0 at cardslot0 cardslot1 at cbb1 slot 1 flags 0 cardbus1 at cardslot1: bus 3 device 0 cacheline 0x0, lattimer 0x20 pcmcia1 at cardslot1 ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel 82801DBM LPC rev 0x03 pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 1 Intel 82801DBM IDE rev 0x03: DMA, channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: FUJITSU MHT2080AH wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 76319MB, 156301488 sectors wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5 pciide0: channel 1 ignored (disabled) ichiic0 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 Intel 82801DB SMBus rev 0x03: irq 11 iic0 at ichiic0 auich0 at pci0 dev 31 function 5 Intel 82801DB AC97 rev 0x03: irq 11, ICH4 AC97 ac97: codec id 0x414c4770 (Avance Logic ALC203 rev 0) ac97: codec features headphone, 20 bit DAC, 18 bit ADC, No 3D Stereo audio0 at auich0 Intel 82801DB Modem rev 0x03 at pci0 dev 31 function 6 not configured isa0 at ichpcib0 isadma0 at isa0 pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 pms0 at pckbc0 (aux slot) pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot wsmouse0 at pms0 mux 0 pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61 midi0 at pcppi0: PC speaker spkr0 at pcppi0
apmd -f /dev/acpi?
Hi, I just downloaded cd40.iso from ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots and installed openbsd on my laptop because I thought the kernel would be -current but when booting I tried bsd -c and then UKC enable acpi but nothing happened, so that I went to the site and downloaded bsd and bsd.mp, copied them to / with the names bsd.acpi and bsd.mp.acpi Then I rebooted (bsd.acpi -c and/or bsd.mp.acpi -c) and UKC said 385 acpi0 enabled and everything was looking fine (apart from the problem that I didn't get any dhcp offer?). I wait until it's up and then make sudo apmd -f /dev/acpi with the hope that I could get apm to work over acpi but when I type zzz or apm -S nothing happens... I know acpi is under development and I am not complaining at all. I just want to check out I did everything correctly or not. Do you see something wrong? I can provide you with dmesg if you wish but it looked fine to me. thanks, Pau
