Why haven't the developers posted a formal annoncement clearifing
if the distributed BIND is vulnerable?
If so, where the hell is the patch?
-Nix Fan.
Edd Barrett wrote:
I don't see a patch attached...
The line numbers were related to the startx script in 4.3...
I guess that it's autogenerated?
Go to line 207 in revision 1.7 of xenocara/app/xinit/startx.cpp:
Are you ready yet?
Replace:
xserverauthfile=$HOME/.serverauth.$$
Greets,
In a number of Linux distributions the bug has been fixed, but it
remains in OpenBSD... Why?
If you start Xorg using the startx script, and shutdown suddenly,
those little buggers multiply.
So, how about we make that little block of code on line 107 do
something useful?
http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/#footnote-4
{iSight webcams require a proprietary firmware that can't be redistributed.
Tools to extract the firmware from the MacOS X driver and load it into the
device are available at http://bersace03.free.fr/ift/.}
-Nix Fan.
fluxbux cwm.
Seriously, cwm can't even compete with fluxy... cwm is for people for people
who seem to forget their using X.
Get the drift? :D
Christian Weisgerber wrote:
The best VT220 emulator is the underappreciated xterm(1).
The s/underappreciated/under appreciated terminal know as xterm, would be
more appreciated if they modernized it a little... Anyone who peddles a
terminal emulator without pseudo transparency should be
Pieter Verberne wrote:
Sorry for being offtopic: What does -f mean? (I see those 'options' more
often in mails).
It's his signature, his name is frantisek, thus he signs his messages
using the first letter of his name.. not unusual, but not very identifying..
I sign my messages too..
LEFIEUX Morgan wrote:
i was looking at this page http://www.openbsd.org/pkg-stable.html and
would like to know why there is no security fixes for packages after 4.1
release ?
The developers don't care about your security.
This topic has been done to death, developer incompetence was
Tim Wiess wrote:
I was originally thinking in a different mindset.
Yeah, The Unix philosophy...
OpenBSD isn't Unix, but Theo is a douche. :-)
-Nix Fan.
Mark Mathias wrote:
Actually, I have seen one of those running OpenBSD, I'm just not sure how
many of its extra features are actually supported.
Seriously? Does anyone have a dmesg of this machine? *drools* :-)
-Nix Fan.
No it's not you arrogant mutt, it sounds to me, like you haven't installed
xbase42.. wget needs gettext, guess where it is? ;)
4.3 has it in base.tgz, please keep informed...
-Nix Fan.
Hello,
Seeing how OpenBSD 4.3 is due out officially soon, I decided to try it out on
one of my older AMD systems:
I'm noting an unusual problem though, agp0 is showing an unusual large aperture
size, I only have a 32M card, and 32M is selected in the BIOS.
~SNIP~
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0
Damon McMahon wrote:
I have read through upgrade43.html and just want to make sure that I can
upgrade 4.1-4.2, skip the Upgrading packages step and then upgrade
4.2-4.3 without having to install xbase?
http://openbsd.org/faq/upgrade43.html wrote:
Note: Upgrades are only supported
Steve Shockley wrote:
No problem. Presumably acpidump will work on a kernel with acpi disabled?
Yes, The command opens /dev/mem and dump the raw ACPI tables...
-Nix Fan.
Matthew Szudzik wrote:
I have successfully read and written several DVDs and CDs using OpenBSD,
following the instructions at
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq13.html
That was not what I was talking about, I know how to burn CD/DVD's,
obviously, I was asking of DVD-RAM drives/disks can be
Hannah Schroeter wrote:
(Please wrap your lines)
I cannot, the Webmail provider formats it out.. I believe it's sending the
email as MIME, it is out of my control - deal with it.
Hannah Schroeter wrote:
IIRC not, I have a DVD-RAM drive and it probes as cd(4), not as sd(4).
Why is
I found an old email on the mailing lists, dating back to 1996, when Theo
announced users could connect and chat with the developers on their ICB server.
I'm wondering, when did it go private? Why can't users join and chat.. or
idle.. and watch OpenBSD development as it takes place, are there
Sorry for hijacking this thread, but it brings up an interesting question..
How well does OpenBSD support DVD-RAM drives? does the cd(4) driver support
read/write operations? - i.e: Would it be possible to use it as a normal block
device?
Again, sorry for hijacking.. unfortunately, I'm not
Well, There is /usr/ports/misc/hfsplus - but it's marked as being for PowerPC
architectures only... HFS+ is used on Intel Macs now though IIRC.
Search the ports tree before firing off an email next time, or use Google.. ;)
http://openports.se/misc/hfsplus
-Nix Fan.
You can't mount an audio CD-ROM, it simply has an audio track, no data track.
If you want to dump the contents into PCM audio, look in the ports.. install
cdrtools and use the cdda2wav application.
-Nix Fan.
I back ported Firefox 2.0.0.12 to OpenBSD 4.2+patches, I can't believe the
OpenBSD team is letting people use the insecure 2.0.0.6 version, We believe in
security my ass.
OpenBSD 4.3 will have 2.0.0.12, unfortunately 2.0.0.13 is out, and that fixes
yet another security problem... so, manual
Jacob Meuser wrote:
or, quit using firefox. it's security record is rather lousy, wouldn't
you agree?
That's a stupid outlook on things... 2.0.0.6 was released in July, that's a
hell of a long time between April, exploits in depencies are bound to show up
in that time frame.
OpenBSD
Nick Templeton wrote:
Didn't you participate in this flamefest already:
http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=119750317632017w=2
You already know the reasons for this.
-Nick
Why yes, it would seem I did previously participate in an almost identical
discussion... the things you learn.
Devin Smith wrote:
Why not use Dillo? Fast, light weight. If your site doesn't work
in Dillo, why not make it work? http://www.openbsd.org renders in
it.
You're welcome to submit patches to the dillo team.
Because it's the worlds must lamest browser, next to lynx of coarse.
None
Stuart Henderson wrote:
..
You do realise that with your abrasive posts, you're pissing off
the very people you're suggesting do the work, right?
Yes, I realise that, and I'm not trying to offend...intentionally.. *sigh*...
I'll stop posting, the developers have already made it clear
OpenBSD 4.3 is due out on May 1st, a lot of changes have happened in 5 months..
perhaps you should wait for the 4.3 release, or try a snapshot from your local
mirror, unfortunately, those are -CURRENT.. which, will eventually be the
4.4-RELEASE.
Reporting hardware incompatibilities for a
Philipp Winter wrote:
Hi,
I did not find a file on the OpenBSD mirrors which contains a digital
signature for the 'MD5' files which are placed in the platform specific
directories (e.g.: ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/4.2/i386/).
Is there no way to verify the authenticity of the
Jacob Meuser wrote:
I still prefer bktrplay + tunerctl from
http://jakemsr.trancell.org/bsdav-1.4.tar.gz for watching TV, but I
know those programs, since they are mine. mainly, bktrplay has better
full-screen support, and has fewer artifact issues than either fxtv
or xawtv. bktrplay
Michael Spratt wrote:
...
I obtained the list of pornographic sites from urlblacklist.com The DNS
server will then respond to users who query port sites with an A record that
points to a local web server that will serve them a nono page and log
their ip.
.
...because we are a
There is a USB standard for USB Cameras among other video devices... It's
called USB Video Device Class.
The specific is available to download... if anyone feels brave enough to write
a driver for UVC class devices... ;)
@Sunnz, Unsupported USB devices always attach to ugen, read the
Fred Snurd wrote:
In reading through the recent Intel Mac Mini thread, I'm confused by what
appears to OpenBSD's support? OpenBSD now supports EFI? Or is EFI have
some compatibility mode with the older BIOS standard?
No.
In the case of modern Intel Macs, they have something called
../usr/bin/ld: cannot find -l/usr/local/lib
Consider that a test.. or an example of my drunken state, regardless of that..
It's obvious that you have no experience with the options of the compiler..
You failed the test. ;)
Change it to -L/usr/local/lib
Read manual pages: gcc(1) and
COMPILE OUTPUT-
# cc t2.c
Why, are you running this as root?..
/tmp//ccdm8869.o(.text+0x1c): In function `main':
: undefined reference to `db_create'
Isn't this message rather obvious? can you not read or something?
/tmp//ccdm8869.o(.text+0x32): In function `main':
Timothy Wilson wrote:
Hello,
I think Michael meant UFS, as in what FreeBSD uses. I too would like
to know the status on this, as I have a FreeBSD machine that could
become an OpenBSD machine :)
Kind regards,
They are the same thing, FFS is an acronym for Berkeley's Fast File
Timothy Wilson wrote:
Thanks Ryan,
Maybe this is new in 4.3 or 4.2? I don't have this option in 4.1. I
guess I should upgrade :)
Timothy.
The manual page claims otherwise, it's a lower case L just so you know... you
need to run the command as root it seems.
Sean Kennedy wrote:
For what it's worth, I'm interested too in a tech@ tutorial on (How to add
Unknown, or Semi-Known USB) devices.
I have had success with adding commonly defined things (Keyboards Mice, and
the occasional USB wireless/wired Network adapter)
But for something that
$ ./time
100 calls to gettimeofday() ... 4.503s
$ uname -srp
OpenBSD 4.2 AMD Athlon(TM) XP 2600+ (AuthenticAMD 686-class, 512KB L2 cache)
$
Seems fine here, looks like the error is on your end.. ;)
Have you tested on 4.3/snapshots.. perhaps enabling/disabling acpi.. etc?
I ran a few tests, and OpenBSD seems perfectly capable of using those extended
characters have you tried using doubled quotes?
sftp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:file with spaces and Umlauts.txt
That should work.. but, spaces and extended characters are so unclean in
the Unix world, it was never
I did a search around and found something called SmartStart, Apparently it's
a bootable configuration utility for your system that configures various
settings in NVRAM.
http://www.umpquanet.com/support/freebsd_setup.html --FreeBSD articble related
to your system...
I've been noticing a similar problem with Firefox on OpenBSD...
Try going to http://www.blahsfkfefe.non-existant/ and then trying a known site
like http://www.google.ca/ .. It just locks up..
If this is an issue with OpenBSD's resolver, why don't the developers fix it?
-Nix Fan.
$ cat .bash_profile
...
export PS1=\l [EMAIL PROTECTED] #
$
Then log back in. this really is basic stuff.. ;)
(Use ksh, it's much better then bash... )
-Nix Fan.
scott wrote:
version a... export PS1=\l [EMAIL PROTECTED] #
version b... export PS1=\l [EMAIL PROTECTED] \\$
B changes the # to be either $ or # per user's non-root/root status.
I was just using the line they provided... it's up to them to read the manual.
-Nix Fan.
Jacob Meuser wrote:
Marc Espie wrote:
Nonsense, as long as you can plug in some plutonium, things should be
fine.
Are you tellin' me this sucker is nuclear?
...Mr. Fusion? ;)
-Nix Fan.
My understanding of paging isn't as good as the developers, but I do know that
memory isn't organized in an entirely sequential fashion..
Free memory is organized into pages, 4096 byte chucks of memory
If my system was shutdown, and someone attempted to recover information from
RAM,
Is this the library you're looking for http://www.nongnu.org/libunwind/ ?
I found it via Google and it wasn't exactly very hard.
-Nix Fan.
$ pkill bob; echo $?
1
$
Just live with it.. ;)
Breaking compatibility just to convenience you... is not an option.
-Nix Fan.
Woah, Has anyone ever provided such a detailed and thorough error report
before?
That was just amazing.. lol :)
-Nix Fan.
-Nix Fan.
After I updated my OpenBSD 4.2 workstations with the released patches... VLC
media player crashes!
VLC media player 0.8.6c Janus
vlc:/usr/local/lib/vlc/codec/libquicktime_plugin.so: undefined symbol
'NewHandleClear'
The program '.' received an X Window System error.
This probably reflects
Marco Peereboom wrote:
This report is useless. Where are all the logs?
What logs? The only error message produced is in my initial email... all other
applications I use are working..
Did you mean a dmesg? What will that accomplish?
I haven't updated my kernel since applying the
Marco Peereboom wrote:
Since you don't provides logs and just yell I'll assume that this was
done on m68k using last weeks xenocara on last months userland and last
years kernel.
I mentioned I was using OpenBSD 4.2 and applied the latest Xenocara patches...
Apologies for not stating
EDIT: Missing subject line, apologies for the spam... honestly.
Marco Peereboom wrote:
Since you don't provides logs and just yell I'll assume that this was
done on m68k using last weeks xenocara on last months userland and last
years kernel.
I mentioned I was using OpenBSD 4.2 and
Works fine here on the fresh installation of 4.2 release. I think, I
had to set correct device node in preferences but that was it. I
personally like the best Ogle as a DVD player. You may also use MPlayer.
Did you clean .vlc after the rebuilt?
I'm aware of this.. I've used vlc for
Edd Barrett wrote:
hey,
what happened to ports.openbsd.nu?.
Darn, It would appear the owner forgot to renew it.. and it got picked up by a
domain squatter.. :(
Very unfortunate loss..
-Nix Fan.
After a thought provoking email from Ian Darwin and a few good hours to cool
off, I would like to apologize for my behaviour..
I'll put more thought into further posts I make to the list.
Take care.
-Nix Fan.
Geez, Ignore my last email.. I was ssh'd into the wrong damn system.
Sorry for the spam
-Nix Fan.
Hello once again,
I've successfuly build Xenocara, It installs into /usr/X11R6 (Why not R7
btw?).. and it works..
Now, I'm trying to distribute the build across my workstations... but I get
this error.
# make release
SNIP
=== proto/bigreqsproto
exec make install
make: don't know how
Hello, This morning I applied the Xorg patches provided for OpenBSD 4.2.. the
build took several hours on
one of my Athlon XP+ 2600 machines but it's working wonderfully now.
Is there an easy/safe way to upgrade Xorg on the rest of my workstations
without repetitively building it on
each
I've read release(8) and I've read the FAQ... but, both still require manually
merging.. copying... etc..
I guess I'm just lazy.. I'll do it the overly complex way... :)
Packages would be nice... pkg_add integration... Xorg is modular now
remember?.. ;)
-Nix Fan.
I/Unixfan wrote:
such a speed the ISA bus can't even achieve.
Apologies, While the rest of what I said was true.. this clearly wasn't.
The ISA bus should be able to accomplish 10Mbit+ speeds..
Please don't hurt me ;)
-Nix Fan.
-Nix Fan.
Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
Well, I've never had high-speed internet and I get along just fine. My
NFS server was my IBM 486DX4-100 with 32 MB ram and a 10 MB/s ISA card.
Worked just fine.
What wil the students be doing where they would need more than 10 MB/s
each between them and your
I've been watching the CVS commits the last few weeks and noticed several Xorg
related security fixes back ported into 4.1 and 4.2 -STABLE.
Are they important enough to get on the errata pages? Some of us sorta rely on
that... ;)
Thanks.
-Nix Fan.
Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
My wife is sensitive to what she describes as electromagnetic fields.
She gets headaches and other pains when exposed to equipment: the higher
the frequency, the worse her symptoms.
Looks like you need to trade her in... she's broken.
;)
-Nix Fan.
markus ploner wrote:
just for the record:
you could've just dd'ed the floppy42.fs to the usb device
this has worked for me several times.
markus
That'd be a pretty dumb way to do it...
1) The bsd.rd on the floppy image is considerably smaller then the one on the
CD.
2) USB thumb
Stuart Henderson wrote:
See for yourself: http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/usr.bin/cvs/
I'm slighly confused by something if the cvs command in OpenBSD 4.2 is
OpenCVS, why does cvs --help refer to places like cvshome.org for updates
etc?
-Nix Fan.
Bachman Kharazmi wrote:
yeay!
outputs.speaker.eapd=off - on
did turn off the mute led. and now I get should ;)
...
I think you meant sound... ;)
should means something entirely different...
-Nix Fan.
On Fri, 18 Jan 2008, John Nietzsche wrote:
Dear gentleman,
That's a very sexist way to address the people on this list.. be a bit more
gender neutral next time.
-Nix Fan.
I notice a lot of people forward several ports when using bittorrent
You know, It's not written in stone that you need to use more then a single
port...
I never run into any speed problems... Even when nearly maxing up my 20Mbit
home cable line ;)
-Nix Fan.
Does OpenBSD's base utilities support 64 bit I/O?
I attempted to create a 8GB file using the dd application distributed with
OpenBSD 4.2, unfortunately it fails with:
dd: count: Result too large
Confused, I tried making the size smaller, and noticed it bails out at exactly
4294967295
Apologies, I was using a larger count size, which is restricted by a 32bit
variable. (size_t).
FreeBSD's dd is 64 bit safe for all options... might be worth looking into.
Darrin Chandler wrote:
Ted Unangst wrote:
what bs are you using?
Try to be more polite, please.
He wasn't
You can use iostat(8) if you're trying to ascertain the transfer rate the of
drive... are you?
$ iostat -d
wd0 cd0 cd1 fd0
KB/t t/s MB/s KB/t t/s MB/s KB/t t/s MB/s KB/t t/s MB/s
18.10 1 0.03 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 3.88
Daniel Ouellet wrote:
Antti Harri wrote:
Errr.. why the hell are you running Apache and PHP on Windows rather
than your OpenBSD?
Because Stallman make it easy to run *HIS* version of *SUPPOSE* free
software one Windows. That's why. Stallman as the various treads pointed
out
Richard Stallman wrote:
I see nothing wrong in using someone else's
Windows machine for a few minutes.
Great!, Now go down to your local public library.. assuming they offer free
Internet access..
Do you're own fucking research!
Helpful resources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/
Richard Stallman wrote:
But it also perpetuates serious problems (totalitarian surveillance,...)
Are you seriously that paranoid? Do you wear a tin foil hat by any chance? :-)
Richard Stallman wrote:
The cases are similar, and my view on the two cases is similar.
So answer this question,
Richard Stallman wrote:
Gilles' message seems to say that OpenBSD policy is to allow
binary-only firmware. Is that correct?
Binary firmware that's legally redistributable is distributed in OpenBSD, Yes.
But you need to wrap your head around what that means for OpenBSD.
Modern
Awesome, It's great that they decided to release the code under a 2 clause BSD
licence... :-)
But I don't the the OpenBSD project should rip out it's entire current
framework and start using this package..
Still, It could serve as an excellent research... for additional drivers,
As I've said, I think it's acceptable for free applications to run on
non-free platforms (and say that they do), because this doesn't
recommend the installation of those non-free platforms. But free
systems should not recommend, suggest, or offer to install non-free
apps.
What is an
Maxim Bourmistrov wrote:
Yes, as this continues you have to say something Theo, but.
I personally prefer the moto If you want it right - you have to do
it yourself.
So please Theo stop wasting your time and continue with your
development of OpenBSD.
The energy you wasting to
I messed up while replying to a topic, won't happen again... hopefully..
-Nix Fan.
I've always used sha1 -a sha256 filename, but I suppose cksum(1) would be the
better command to use.. ;)
-Nix Fan.
I'm sorry Marco, but I think what you've said is bullshit, as well contacted
several so called data recovery organizations, after admitting to have
zeroed the drive contents - They said recovery wasn't possible..
While it might be possible to get miscellaneous data off of a drive, it would
new_guy wrote:
I'm working on putting a website up now where I'll fully disclose the
details. Lots of pictures and details. I will attribute the dd used to
OpenBSD (the best OS on the planet bar none... although the dd on the
install CD did not support the conv option... I would have liked
Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
To satisfy my own curiosity, looking at
www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Free_X_window_managers which provides
links to 45 window managers for which there are wiki pages, I looked at
the licence for each and found that only xmonad, wmii, fluxbox, and
blackbox
rm -P would be what you're looking for..
But is it even required? It's not exactly an easy task to undelete a file
anyway... the process alone is an effecitve deterrent.
-Nix Fan.
OpenBSD doesn't have distribution rights for archivers/freeze...
You'll have to build it from ports...
-Nix Fan.
From my understanding, restoring a file after deletion would be very
complicated because files aren't stored in a sequential fashion...
When you delete a file, the inode for the file is removed.. (assuming there
wasn't another hard link to it...)... That inode contained the only list of
This is a neat idea, but personally I think it'll be hard to make the device 0
maintenance, problems can always occur...
If you're set on using OpenBSD in this project, remove everything from the base
system that isn't needed... and try running the unit non-stop for 48/hours...
just to be
Marco Peereboom wrote:
What in the world???
Do you drive a car? if the answer is yes you have an unconnected
embedded device. Need more examples?
No, I walk.. batteries not included..
Seriously, I was simply giving my opinion... unfortunately I walked under a
bridge and got
Chris Cappuccio wrote:
upnp is also necessary for other multiplayer games like xbox live. it's
unfortunate, but true.
Here's an idea.. grow up and stop playing Video Games.
Problem eliminated.. damn kids and their games...
-Nix Fan.
Who the heck is Marry? :P
Typically one spells it Merry, not Marry.
Please spank the evil monkey who taught you English
-Scrooge (Aka, Nix Fan..)
Some day in the future, RMS will die while having sexual intercourse with an
android running proprietary software... and on that day, I will buy everyone a
round of beers.
Sure I'm terrible, but he's just crazy... ;)
(I may be drunk, but you are ugly, and tomorrow I'll be sober.)
-Nix
I would like to apologize for my early post to this topic, I was extremely rude
and disrespectful.
Please disregard it.
-Nix Fan.
Michael Spratt wrote:
I have a question, I'm trying to recompile a flavor of bind but I can't find
the port because its part of the base install.
Could you point me in the right direction on how I would do it ?
I downloaded the bind source and compiled it but obviously the original
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
You too.
I still remember cheering when I read
http://monkey.org/openbsd/archive/ports/0108/msg00460.html
* From: Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 12:11:00 -0600
* Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am just curious -
This really does suck... While we as users appreciate developers hard work, A
majority rely on -STABLE for updated and secure 3rd party software..
You really can't expect everyone to use -CURRENT in a production environment..
and it's been made clear that using -CURRENT ports on a -STABLE
I've never seen a CD/DVD drive that uses UDMA 5, Pretty fast... but I've also
never seen/used SATA extensively..
One option might be to downgrade the drive to UDMA 2 perhaps? see if that helps
any?..
-Nix Fan.
Greetings :)
Have you considered running a passes with memtest86? I have the feeling one of
those RAM modules is defective, I still own a few K6-2 systems and they work
perfectly. ;)
-Nix fan.
I think this is the second time you've posted something similar to this... I
have news for you
Everyone gets such traffic in their logs.. from DoS'ers and other mischievous
individuals..
There really isn't much you can do about it either, and if you report back to
each IP's abuse
fstat(1) displays all open file inodes, it couldn't possibly translate them to
names reliably.. because a file can have many different hard links, thus have
different names.
I know it's sad, but that's just the way it is. one option might be the
ncheck_ffs(8) command though..
Mitja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
There is no man page for fdisk in 4.2.
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=fdiskapropos=0sektion=0manpath=OpenBSD
\
+4.2arch=i386format=html
Best regards,
Mitja
This is a little odd, but only that online manual page viewer
If you own any other ~1G SD cards, perhaps you should try using one of them?...
for reasons unknown, not all cards are created equal. :(
-Nix Fan.
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