Re: softraid as hot replacement for raidframe
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 1:13 AM, Stuart Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2008-03-11, nicodache [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, the question is : is there any way to remotely (my box is in a remote securized datacenter with double code) jump from raidframe to softraid, as I've understood softraid was the future for OpenBSD ? not without foreign metadata support in softraid. as of 4.3, softraid is coming along nicely, but it doesn't have scrub/rebuild, it's not a full replacement for raidframe yet. at the moment, there are definitely situations where raidframe would just be able to reboot, where softraid would need manual intervention at the console (serial or otherwise). So, you advice me to stay with RaidFrame as long as softraid is not made the default raid driver, supporting automatic rebuild, nested raid, and all the things that make a raid driver sexy and pointless at some level ? ^^ Thank you for your answer.
softraid as hot replacement for raidframe
Hello everyone, I've been using raidframe as software raid driver to handle 2x80GB in raid 1 soft, but for that purpose, I had to compile a custom kernel with software raid enabled in it. As I only knew about raidframe when I installed by box (was OpenBSD 4.1 at that time) Now, I've seen in http://openbsd.org/plus43.html something like Re-enabled softraid(4) in GENERIC configs for all platforms., which should mean something like with the GENERIC kernel, you'll be able to set up a raid and install OpenBSD on it, and boot from that array (even if I might have to put the kernel on a separate partition). Right ? Now, the question is : is there any way to remotely (my box is in a remote securized datacenter with double code) jump from raidframe to softraid, as I've understood softraid was the future for OpenBSD ? something like compile raidframe into 4.3 kernel, boot from it, convert raid layer while running on it, then install the default kernel and reboot on the softraid-enabled filesystem ? I suppose I'll have somehow to convert my data on a unmounted partition, in what case I'll have to either mess with virtual drives and degraded arrays, or go in the datacenter, copy the data, and put them back on a softraid thing. Right ? Thank you for any input. Regards, nicodache
Re: FOSDEM 23/24 Feb Brussels
You're right, this is the native language of the Netherlands, and also (in a slightly modified version) the one spoken by half the people from belgium. The first one is the dutch, the second the flemish. I think if you try to binary-xor it with the lyrics from latest song from clouseau, you'd get something near english you can understand. cheers, nicodache_punt_be ^^ 2008/2/22 Mayuresh Kathe [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Golly, what language is that? is it the native language of NL? I tried running it through 'rot13', but that complicated it even more. 2008/2/22 Han Boetes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ik zal er niet bij zijn dit jaar, maar ik wens je wel veel plezier. :-) Groetjes aan Tilly. ;-) Wim Vandeputte wrote: like each year we'll be present at the FOSDEM event in Brussels, it's completely free entrance, plenty of interesting things to see, even a BSD devroom with presenations Feel free to drop by http://www.fosdem.org/ This weekend. # Han
Re: FOSDEM 23/24 Feb Brussels
Don't forget to say that Belgium is partly german too... For those who alreayd think belgium that Belgium is complicated, please learn that we also have 7 governments ; the federal one (for the whole country), 3 for each region, and 3 for each community. Take in accounting that one cannot work for the federal governement as well as for the regional one, but well for the community (or something like that), and the region of brussels is in the flemish community while 85% of its residents speak french... And we organise FOSDEM in there... Ikke ps : just for the fun, our futur prime minister who already tried for 6 months to set up a governement before we fall back to the old one, already has an ulcer due to belgium politic stress... pps : I'll be in fosdem too On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Tom Van Looy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, it's the Netherlands that speak a slightly modified version of dutch. Only Flemish Belgium speaks true Dutch. The term Flemish covers the Belgian Dutch dialects. It's a bit confusing because of the naming and translations to English, I think this is caused by the fact that Belgium is partly French and the Netherlands is completely Dutch. ps: will be at Fosdem too - Oorspronkelijk bericht - Van: nicodache [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: vrijdag, februari 22, 2008 12:35 PM Aan: misc@openbsd.org Onderwerp: Re: FOSDEM 23/24 Feb Brussels You're right, this is the native language of the Netherlands, and also (in a slightly modified version) the one spoken by half the people from belgium. The first one is the dutch, the second the flemish. I think if you try to binary-xor it with the lyrics from latest song from clouseau, you'd get something near english you can understand. cheers, nicodache_punt_be ^^ 2008/2/22 Mayuresh Kathe [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Golly, what language is that? is it the native language of NL? I tried running it through 'rot13', but that complicated it even more. 2008/2/22 Han Boetes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ik zal er niet bij zijn dit jaar, maar ik wens je wel veel plezier. :-) Groetjes aan Tilly. ;-) Wim Vandeputte wrote: like each year we'll be present at the FOSDEM event in Brussels, it's completely free entrance, plenty of interesting things to see, even a BSD devroom with presenations Feel free to drop by http://www.fosdem.org/ This weekend. # Han
Re: rtorrent + OpenBSD = freeze
As promised, and as my server is up again, here is the dmesg. Now, why is rtorrent freezing the server... not a clue OpenBSD 4.2 (GENERIC.RAID) #1: Sun Jan 6 22:08:19 CET 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.RAID cpu0: Intel Pentium III (GenuineIntel 686-class) 795 MHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE real mem = 1073311744 (1023MB) avail mem = 1029783552 (982MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 12/31/99, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xeca00, SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xf2000 (41 entries) bios0: vendor Compaq version D05/F05 System ROM date 11/15/2002 bios0: Compaq ProLiant DL320 pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xeca00/0x3600 pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfaca0/160 (8 entries) pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:15:0 (ServerWorks OSB4 rev 0x00) pcibios0: PCI bus #0 is the last bus bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x8000 0xc8000/0x8000 0xd/0x3400 0xe8000/0x8000! acpi at mainbus0 not configured cpu0 at mainbus0 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 ServerWorks CNB20LE Host rev 0x05 pchb1 at pci0 dev 0 function 1 ServerWorks CNB20LE Host rev 0x05 pci1 at pchb1 bus 1 pciide0 at pci1 dev 1 function 0 Promise PDC20375 rev 0x02: DMA wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: ST380811AS wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 76319MB, 156301488 sectors wd0(pciide0:0:0): using BIOS timings, Ultra-DMA mode 6 wd1 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0: ST380811AS wd1: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 76319MB, 156301488 sectors wd1(pciide0:1:0): using BIOS timings, Ultra-DMA mode 6 pciide0: using irq 3 for native-PCI interrupt siop0 at pci1 dev 2 function 0 Symbios Logic 53c895A rev 0x01: irq 3, using 8K of on-board RAM scsibus0 at siop0: 16 targets fxp0 at pci1 dev 3 function 0 Intel 8255x rev 0x08, i82559: irq 11, address 00:50:8b:e8:56:04 inphy0 at fxp0 phy 1: i82555 10/100 PHY, rev. 4 fxp1 at pci1 dev 4 function 0 Intel 8255x rev 0x08, i82559: irq 11, address 00:50:8b:e8:56:05 inphy1 at fxp1 phy 1: i82555 10/100 PHY, rev. 4 vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 ATI Rage XL rev 0x27 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) Compaq Netelligent ASMC rev 0x00 at pci0 dev 3 function 0 not configured piixpm0 at pci0 dev 15 function 0 ServerWorks OSB4 rev 0x51: polling iic0 at piixpm0 adm1022 at iic0 addr 0x2c not configured iic0: addr 0x2c 13=3a 14=4d 15=02 17=46 18=64 19=00 20=80 26=30 27=1b 2b=7f 2c=80 37=48 38=c9 39=35 3a=c9 3e=41 3f=c9 40=2b 41=10 43=11 44=0c 47=50 4a=01 4c=10 93=3a 94=4d 95=02 97=46 98=64 99=00 a0=80 a6=30 a7=1b ab=7f ac=80 b7=48 b8=c9 b9=35 ba=c9 be=41 bf=c9 c0=2b c1=10 c3=11 c4=0c c7=50 ca=01 cc=10: adm1022 pciide1 at pci0 dev 15 function 1 ServerWorks OSB4 IDE rev 0x00: DMA atapiscsi0 at pciide1 channel 1 drive 0 scsibus1 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets cd0 at scsibus1 targ 0 lun 0: COMPAQ, CD-ROM CRN-8241B, 2.23 SCSI0 5/cdrom removable cd0(pciide1:1:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2 ohci0 at pci0 dev 15 function 2 ServerWorks OSB4/CSB5 USB rev 0x04: irq 5, version 1.0, legacy support usb0 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0 at usb0: ServerWorks OHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 isa0 at mainbus0 isadma0 at isa0 pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61 midi0 at pcppi0: PC speaker spkr0 at pcppi0 npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: reported by CPUID; using exception 16 pccom0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0/6 irq 6 drq 2 fd0 at fdc0 drive 0: 1.44MB 80 cyl, 2 head, 18 sec biomask f7ed netmask ffed ttymask ffef pctr: 686-class user-level performance counters enabled mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support Kernelized RAIDframe activated cd0(atapiscsi0:0:0): Check Condition (error 0x70) on opcode 0x0 SENSE KEY: Not Ready ASC/ASCQ: Medium Not Present raid0 at root: (RAID Level 1) total number of sectors is 156091648 (76216 MB) as root dkcsum: wd0 matches BIOS drive 0x80 dkcsum: wd1 matches BIOS drive 0x81
Re: rtorrent + OpenBSD = freeze
I've been using rtorrent on openbsd 4.1 for more than 6 months without a single breakdown. now, in less than 2 weeks, my 4.2 box (the same hardware, just upgraded version) froze twice... is it really a network issue ? or is it more like an rtorrent problem ? Cheers, On Feb 19, 2008 3:53 PM, Girish Venkatachalam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 14:42:37 Feb 19, Paul Irofti wrote: I've been using rtorrent for more than a year now and it never stopped/blocked/froze/etc. I can second that . Little annoyances here and there but overall rtorrent works very well under OpenBSD. If it freezes very likely it is a network issue. -Girish
Re: SUM TOTAL OF RMS's PHILOSOPHY
Enough of this FUD. Go hang yourself please. Thanks On Jan 10, 2008 9:27 PM, Siju George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 7, 2008 9:48 AM, Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't carry a mobile phone, but I don't see anything wrong in borrowing one from someone to make a call. So if it is a new model of cell phone and if the owner teaches you how to use it and make life easy for you will that be 1) Wrong on his part to encourage you to using a device you don't use? 2) Wrong on your part to take his advice and help to use it? Yes, that is my view of things. Using the phone could be convenient for me. But some where ( just like you use take help from the mobile phone owner to use it ) in the ports system are instructions to install a non-free software which is not mandatory for users to use. The cases are similar, and my view on the two cases is similar. I hope the first time you used a cell phone some body must have taught you right? or you must have read the manual? So this is something like I AM A THIEF! BUT BOY I DONT RECOMMEND STEALING!! BUT WAIT BEFORE YOU ARE SURPRISED!!! I WONT SPARE SLANDER THEM THAT USE THEIR OWN THINGS EITHER!!! EXCEPT OF COURSE IF IT IS FOR MY CONVENIENCE FOR A TIME!
Re: Richard Stallman...
Richard, I don't want not make any comment on all this FUD, instead I'll just tell you this. I cannot anything but to appreciate and look how you are able to stay calm and polite when I read some people on this ML talking about crap, fucking duck with tape, shutting up things. That beeing said, I never liked that purple sweat-shirt of yours. Get an OpenBSD t-shirt instead, the benefits will help us making OpenBSD more free than ever ;-) Cheers, nicodache
Fosdem 2008
Website is up, date are announced. The Free and Opensource Sofware Developer's European Meeting will, as usual, take place at the Universiti Libre de Bruxelles, Campus Solbosh, on the 23 24th february 2008 Website is http://www.fosdem.org/2008/ Event address is Avenue Franklin D. Roosevelt, 50 1050 Brussels And as usual, there will be software under other licences than GPL, like, I mean, err, like OpenBSD. I think we coule put that info on http://www.openbsd.org/events.html ;) Cheers, nicodache
pfctl: the sum of the child bandwidth higher than parent ssh
Still busy trying to make thing good on my server, I'm configuring
altq bandwidth management in pf.conf
here is the part concerning bandwidth management, written, as told,
between scrub nat (which I don't have, so between scrub filters) :
# SET BANDWIDTH MANAGEMENT
altq on $ext_if cbq bandwidth 1Mb queue {net}
queue net bandwidth 1Mb cbq(default) {ssh,http,mail,p2p,misc}
queue http bandwidth 60% priority 6 cbq(borrow)
queue mail bandwidth 15% priority 5 cbq(borrow)
queue p2p bandwidth 15% priority 0 cbq(borrow)
queue misc bandwidth 5% priority 3 cbq(borrow)
queue ssh bandwidth 5% cbq(borrow) {ssh_interactive, ssh_bulk}
queue ssh_interactive priority 7
queue ssh_bulk priority 1
I've not linked filters to queue 'til now, because I get the following
error when doing some pfctl -F rules pfctl -f /etc/pf.conf
rules cleared
pfctl: the sum of the child bandwidth higher than parent ssh
How could the child bandwidth be higher when I didn't set up bandwidth at all ?
I based my experiment on the book Absolute OpenBSD of michael lucas,
but it seems I got no luck this time.
any clue ?
Thanks
Re: Get developers some big machines to support more RAM
You don't get the problem, at least if you run a decent operating system, 'cause I know some people having problem using more than 4 Gig of ram, even with AMD64 or EM64T hardware, and (hum) Vista. Just to say the arch does not make everything, a good software is also needed. plus, X86_64 gets rid of a part of the limitation of the old x86 model, but not everyting... like old bad bios (still waiting for EFI), 640K thing, 8GB, 128/137GB HDD hacks... On 10/8/07, Tonnerre LOMBARD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Salut, On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 10:02:22AM +, mickey wrote: or what you think loading 36bit physaddr is slower than loading 48bits? For a good reason: nowadays, you just get an amd64 and don't have the problem.
vsftpd, pam, virtual users
Hello, I'm busy setting up vsftpd on my OpenBSD 4.1 server, using virtual users, and as adviced on ftp://vsftpd.beasts.org/users/cevans/untar/vsftpd-2.0.5/EXAMPLE/VIRTUAL_USERS/README , with pam. However, it seems pam does not exist on OpenBSD, because of security problems. What would you advice me to use, in place of vsftpd ( I add I do need to set up some virtual users) that does not require pam to do the authentication, or some trick to replace pam to keep my vsftpd setup ? Thank you for any interesting answer. nicodache
Re: non-x86-based hardware for OBSD?
VIA, Intel lo-comsumption, are X86-based. You should go into the ARM world to get something like that, and you will be disapointed, as it is much much harder to find something with 4 network connectors, serial, flash, pci, mini-pci connector, due to the lack of products manufacturers. You may want to check the website of the manufacturers mentionned on epiacenter website (http://www.epiacenter.com/modules.php?name=Contentpa=showpagepid=39), some of them have a very broad range of product, more than you can easily find on the net. Regards, On 9/25/07, Lars Noodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking at the recent article on Soekris and very favorably impressed. Setting up a Soekris 5501 with OpenBSD 4.2 24 Sep 2007 http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=articlesid=20070924004901 The setup seems almost perfect, except that the AMD Geode seems to be x86-based. What corresponding non-x86 hardware options are common, recommended, or even available ? Regards, -Lars
Re: non-x86-based hardware for OBSD?
I think AxiomTek has what you're looking for. And if it doesn't, then either there is no such thing as you search, or it's well hidden. regards, On 9/25/07, Lars Noodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nicodache wrote: ... You should go into the ARM world to get something like that, and you will be disapointed, as it is much much harder to find something with 4 network connectors, serial, flash, pci, mini-pci connector, due to the lack of products manufacturers. Yes. I know. Hence my query to the list. ... on epiacenter website ... I find only x86-based units there: celeron, amd geode, pentium, c3, eden, TM8600, etc. One ARM on the list, though. But isn't ARM now under Intel, maker of AMT? There has got to be non-x86 units out there, SBC or other, running Cell or Freescale or anything else. Regards, -Lars
Re: Setting up ccd RAID 1 Howto OpenBSD 4.1
If I remember correctly, you have to use FS type RAID, and not FS type FS_RAID. for the partition layout, the /boot on 100MB is to allow the machine to boot, but after that, you put all your files in logical subdivisions of the raid array. I my case, I didn't use wd*a (/boot) in the /etc/fstab, as I don't need it for day-to-day operation. Last thing, instead of writing the raid.conf file under /etc, copy it (if you can) from man raidctl, raidctl is very very very bad at interpreting this file, and fail with a useless error message whenever it finds whitespaces, tab, or CR where he didn't intend to... nico On 9/13/07, Jake Conk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, I tried following that article but I got stuck at the part where you start partition your second drive. I created the first partition with 100mb and type of 4.2 BSD then when I tried to create the second partition on my drive as FS_RAID as the article says but it said that FS_RAID is an unknown type and treated my partition as unknown? To me that part of the article on how to partition my disk is totally unclear. All it says is make the first partition 100m for the boot which makes sense then it doesn't say how to partition the rest of your drive to setup for the RAID 1? Can someone clarify this a bit more please? I'm stuck. Thanks, - Jake Anyways how do I fix this FS_RAID problem On 9/12/07, nicodache [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I personnaly used the following doc to set up my software raid 1 frame : http://www.linux.com/articles/52713 good luck :) On 9/12/07, Steve Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jake Conk wrote: Hello, I've searched hi and low for hours on how to setup my system of a RAID 1 and basically what it comes down to is ccd and/or Raid Frame. I've found helpful docs on using some of the commands and where to put my configurations but nothing seems complete enough for me to figure it out. I have OpenBSD 4.1 installed on one disk and I have an exact duplicate disk where i want to mirror my installation to incase of disk failure. If this needs to be setup during install I'm willing reinstall everything or if there is a way to configure my disks for ccd and mirror them to the second disk then I'm willing to do that also. Basically I don't know how to get this ball rolling, I've read 1) I must change the disk type with disk label to ccd. Then 2) create ccd0 with ccdconfig and tell it to mirror disk 1 to disk 2. It then 3) finally says to put my configuration into ccd.conf so that it can be read in on boot by my system and of course put the stuff in fstab to have it mounted on boot but thats all I know, everything is very vague and no exact details on how to do this step by step with a new install or a already running system. Can someone please help provide a step by step way to mirror my whole disk to a second disk by ressetting back up OpenBSD from scratch or if possible configure my already installed system? I don't care if its with ccd or another tool as long as I have a disk failover solution. Please Please Please and Thanks! - Jake Hi, Not for CCD, but raidframe.. Search the mailing list archives for a thread with a subject Seeking info for RAID 1 on OpenBSD. In there you will find all sorts of info. http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=116360194522004w=2 http://www.packetmischief.ca/openbsd/doc/raidadmin/ Good Luck, Thanks, Steve Williams
Re: Setting up ccd RAID 1 Howto OpenBSD 4.1
I personnaly used the following doc to set up my software raid 1 frame : http://www.linux.com/articles/52713 good luck :) On 9/12/07, Steve Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jake Conk wrote: Hello, I've searched hi and low for hours on how to setup my system of a RAID 1 and basically what it comes down to is ccd and/or Raid Frame. I've found helpful docs on using some of the commands and where to put my configurations but nothing seems complete enough for me to figure it out. I have OpenBSD 4.1 installed on one disk and I have an exact duplicate disk where i want to mirror my installation to incase of disk failure. If this needs to be setup during install I'm willing reinstall everything or if there is a way to configure my disks for ccd and mirror them to the second disk then I'm willing to do that also. Basically I don't know how to get this ball rolling, I've read 1) I must change the disk type with disk label to ccd. Then 2) create ccd0 with ccdconfig and tell it to mirror disk 1 to disk 2. It then 3) finally says to put my configuration into ccd.conf so that it can be read in on boot by my system and of course put the stuff in fstab to have it mounted on boot but thats all I know, everything is very vague and no exact details on how to do this step by step with a new install or a already running system. Can someone please help provide a step by step way to mirror my whole disk to a second disk by ressetting back up OpenBSD from scratch or if possible configure my already installed system? I don't care if its with ccd or another tool as long as I have a disk failover solution. Please Please Please and Thanks! - Jake Hi, Not for CCD, but raidframe.. Search the mailing list archives for a thread with a subject Seeking info for RAID 1 on OpenBSD. In there you will find all sorts of info. http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=116360194522004w=2 http://www.packetmischief.ca/openbsd/doc/raidadmin/ Good Luck, Thanks, Steve Williams
Re: upgrading ports from 4.1 to 4.2
not supported as in we don't care if you have problem with it, or not supported as in it will certainly end with a segfault ? On 9/10/07, Stuart Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: building from ports without X is not supported (including those that don't need X to run).
Re: upgrading ports from 4.1 to 4.2
ok. so you all advice me to install 4.2 with xbase. and with that, I can install packages/ports with no_x11, and things that needs X parts will work correctly ? I'll go for that :) On 9/10/07, Markus Hennecke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nicodache schrieb: On 9/10/07, Stuart Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: building from ports without X is not supported (including those that don't need X to run). not supported as in we don't care if you have problem with it, or not supported as in it will certainly end with a segfault ? Not supported as in it won't build and certainly no one will care about problems related to the missing X. Greetings Markus
Re: Ultraportable Laptop
anybody with an Asus S6F(m) or U1F running OpenBSD ? These are aslo quite small, and while the S6F is quite thick, it comes with an internal DVD burner. Second battery push the autonomy up to 10h. Thinking about buying it, and using some BSD on it. On 9/4/07, Marco Peereboom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I love my Fijitsu lifebook q2010. On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 12:01:36PM +0200, Raimo Niskanen wrote: Hi all! I am pondering on which ultraportable laptop would be fine for OpenBSD. The Lenovo ThinkPad X61 comes first to mind since OpenBSD traditionally has been good at ThinkPads, but a display of 1024x768 is too small. They should be bigger nowdays. Lenovo 3000 V100 (V200) is another choice, but it appears they do not have at all the same rugged mechanics as the ThinkPad series. Samsung Q35 is a notebook that appears to have familiar hardware, but I am too much of a novice to tell. Sony Vaio TZ is another praised notebook, but I hear the Sony Vaio series have been no good with OpenBSD. Comments? Has anyone run Samsung Q35? It seems to be the best alternative so far. -- / Raimo Niskanen, Erlang/OTP, Ericsson AB
Re: serial console device
Here is the content of /etc/ttys file. do you see any mistake ? -bash-3.2$ grep -v none /etc/ttys # # $OpenBSD: ttys,v 1.17 2002/06/09 06:15:14 todd Exp $ # # name getty typestatus comments # console /usr/libexec/getty Pc vt220 off secure ttyC0 /usr/libexec/getty Pc vt220 on secure ttyC1 /usr/libexec/getty Pc vt220 off secure ttyC2 /usr/libexec/getty Pc vt220 off secure ttyC3 /usr/libexec/getty Pc vt220 off secure ttyC4 /usr/libexec/getty Pc vt220 off secure ttyC5 /usr/libexec/getty Pc vt220 off secure ttyC6 /usr/libexec/getty Pc vt220 off secure ttyC7 /usr/libexec/getty Pc vt220 off secure ttyC8 /usr/libexec/getty Pc vt220 off secure ttyC9 /usr/libexec/getty Pc vt220 off secure ttyCa /usr/libexec/getty Pc vt220 off secure ttyCb /usr/libexec/getty Pc vt220 off secure tty00 /usr/libexec/getty std.9600 vt220 on secure tty01 /usr/libexec/getty std.9600 unknown off tty02 /usr/libexec/getty std.9600 unknown off tty03 /usr/libexec/getty std.9600 unknown off tty04 /usr/libexec/getty std.9600 unknown off tty05 /usr/libexec/getty std.9600 unknown off tty06 /usr/libexec/getty std.9600 unknown off tty07 /usr/libexec/getty std.9600 unknown off when getting the stage 2 boot loading prompt, I also get the following message : probing: pc0 com0 mem[639K 1023M a20=on] disk: fd0 fd1 hd0+ hd1+ OpenBSD/i386 BOOT 2.13 boot So, my installation sees an com port. is that because it is physically detected ? or because it is configured in the /etc/ttys file ? Thanks again On 8/20/07, nicodache [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, the dmesg is here :) BTW, is it normal to still have access the the ctrl-alt-del keys when I'm (or at least I should be) using the serial to redirect all the i/o from the other computer ? DMESG : OpenBSD 4.1 (GENERIC.RAID) #0: Sun Jul 8 22:16:34 CEST 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.RAID cpu0: Intel Pentium III (GenuineIntel 686-class) 795 MHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE real mem = 1073311744 (1048156K) avail mem = 971534336 (948764K) using 4278 buffers containing 53788672 bytes (52528K) of memory mainbus0 (root) bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 12/31/99, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xeca00, SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xf2000 (41 entries) bios0: Compaq ProLiant DL320 pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xeca00/0x3600 pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfaca0/160 (8 entries) pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:15:0 (ServerWorks OSB4 rev 0x00) pcibios0: PCI bus #0 is the last bus bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x8000 0xc8000/0x8000 0xd/0x3400 0xe8000/0x8000! acpi at mainbus0 not configured cpu0 at mainbus0 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 ServerWorks CNB20LE Host rev 0x05 pchb1 at pci0 dev 0 function 1 ServerWorks CNB20LE Host rev 0x05 pci1 at pchb1 bus 1 pciide0 at pci1 dev 1 function 0 Promise PDC20375 rev 0x02: DMA wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: ST380811AS wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 76319MB, 156301488 sectors wd0(pciide0:0:0): using BIOS timings, Ultra-DMA mode 6 wd1 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0: ST380811AS wd1: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 76319MB, 156301488 sectors wd1(pciide0:1:0): using BIOS timings, Ultra-DMA mode 6 pciide0: using irq 3 for native-PCI interrupt siop0 at pci1 dev 2 function 0 Symbios Logic 53c895A rev 0x01: irq 3, using 8K of on-board RAM scsibus0 at siop0: 16 targets fxp0 at pci1 dev 3 function 0 Intel 8255x rev 0x08, i82559: irq 11, address 00:50:8b:e8:56:04 inphy0 at fxp0 phy 1: i82555 10/100 PHY, rev. 4 fxp1 at pci1 dev 4 function 0 Intel 8255x rev 0x08, i82559: irq 11, address 00:50:8b:e8:56:05 inphy1 at fxp1 phy 1: i82555 10/100 PHY, rev. 4 vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 ATI Rage XL rev 0x27 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) Compaq Netelligent ASMC rev 0x00 at pci0 dev 3 function 0 not configured piixpm0 at pci0 dev 15 function 0 ServerWorks OSB4 rev 0x51: polling iic0 at piixpm0 adm1022 at iic0 addr 0x2c not configured iic0: addr 0x2c 13=3a 14=4d 15=02 17=46 18=64 19=00 20=80 26=3b 27=1b 2b=7f 2c=80 37=48 38=c9 39=35 3a=c9 3e=41 3f=c9 40=2b 41=10 43=11 44=08 47=50 4a=01 4c=10 93=3a 94=4d 95=02 97=46 98=64 99=00 a0=80 a6=3b a7=1b ab=7f ac=80 b7=48 b8=c9 b9=35 ba=c9 be=41 bf=c9 c0=2b c1=10 c3=11 c4=08 c7=50 ca=01 cc=10: adm1022 pciide1 at pci0 dev 15 function 1 ServerWorks OSB4 IDE rev 0x00: DMA atapiscsi0 at pciide1 channel 1 drive 0 scsibus1 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets cd0 at scsibus1 targ 0 lun 0: COMPAQ, CD-ROM CRN-8241B, 2.23 SCSI0 5/cdrom removable cd0(pciide1:1:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2 ohci0 at pci0 dev 15 function 2 ServerWorks OSB4/CSB5 USB rev 0x04: irq 5, version 1.0
Re: serial console device
Me again, Trying to play with the serial port to see if I can get it to work, I just saw my box does not seem to care of /etc/boot.conf : when I set timeout 20 (plus stty com0 9600 set tty com0), my machine still decides to boot after 5 seconds. So, my computer really does sorcerer-ish things... any clues on why I got no luck ? Could that be due to RAIDframe ? Or am I just some kind of idiot ? Thx On 8/21/07, nicodache [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is the content of /etc/ttys file. do you see any mistake ? -bash-3.2$ grep -v none /etc/ttys # # $OpenBSD: ttys,v 1.17 2002/06/09 06:15:14 todd Exp $ # # name getty typestatus comments # console /usr/libexec/getty Pc vt220 off secure ttyC0 /usr/libexec/getty Pc vt220 on secure ttyC1 /usr/libexec/getty Pc vt220 off secure ttyC2 /usr/libexec/getty Pc vt220 off secure ttyC3 /usr/libexec/getty Pc vt220 off secure ttyC4 /usr/libexec/getty Pc vt220 off secure ttyC5 /usr/libexec/getty Pc vt220 off secure ttyC6 /usr/libexec/getty Pc vt220 off secure ttyC7 /usr/libexec/getty Pc vt220 off secure ttyC8 /usr/libexec/getty Pc vt220 off secure ttyC9 /usr/libexec/getty Pc vt220 off secure ttyCa /usr/libexec/getty Pc vt220 off secure ttyCb /usr/libexec/getty Pc vt220 off secure tty00 /usr/libexec/getty std.9600 vt220 on secure tty01 /usr/libexec/getty std.9600 unknown off tty02 /usr/libexec/getty std.9600 unknown off tty03 /usr/libexec/getty std.9600 unknown off tty04 /usr/libexec/getty std.9600 unknown off tty05 /usr/libexec/getty std.9600 unknown off tty06 /usr/libexec/getty std.9600 unknown off tty07 /usr/libexec/getty std.9600 unknown off when getting the stage 2 boot loading prompt, I also get the following message : probing: pc0 com0 mem[639K 1023M a20=on] disk: fd0 fd1 hd0+ hd1+ OpenBSD/i386 BOOT 2.13 boot So, my installation sees an com port. is that because it is physically detected ? or because it is configured in the /etc/ttys file ? Thanks again
Re: serial console device
Hello, it's me again, for an end. IT WAS THE CABLE /o\ I bought a cable in a shop, specially asking the guy there if it would fit to connect 2 pc to acces them using console control software, and he told me he used that same cable for his own lab test. And it appears the cable I made myself last month, and I didn't trust at all, is working using default params (and vt100 as HyperTerm does not seem to support vt220), while the one I paid 2.5 is not... (I said my cicso was fine with the serial port, but I could not use his cable, as one end is a rj45 connector...) Thanks anyway to you guys, and off to another problem ; /etc/boot.conf not used \x/ We'll see that tomorrow, gonna sleep now, 34 after midnight here. nicodache On 8/21/07, nicodache [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me again, Trying to play with the serial port to see if I can get it to work, I just saw my box does not seem to care of /etc/boot.conf : when I set timeout 20 (plus stty com0 9600 set tty com0), my machine still decides to boot after 5 seconds. So, my computer really does sorcerer-ish things... any clues on why I got no luck ? Could that be due to RAIDframe ? Or am I just some kind of idiot ? Thx On 8/21/07, nicodache [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is the content of /etc/ttys file. do you see any mistake ? -bash-3.2$ grep -v none /etc/ttys # # $OpenBSD: ttys,v 1.17 2002/06/09 06:15:14 todd Exp $ # # name getty typestatus comments # console /usr/libexec/getty Pc vt220 off secure ttyC0 /usr/libexec/getty Pc vt220 on secure ttyC1 /usr/libexec/getty Pc vt220 off secure ttyC2 /usr/libexec/getty Pc vt220 off secure ttyC3 /usr/libexec/getty Pc vt220 off secure ttyC4 /usr/libexec/getty Pc vt220 off secure ttyC5 /usr/libexec/getty Pc vt220 off secure ttyC6 /usr/libexec/getty Pc vt220 off secure ttyC7 /usr/libexec/getty Pc vt220 off secure ttyC8 /usr/libexec/getty Pc vt220 off secure ttyC9 /usr/libexec/getty Pc vt220 off secure ttyCa /usr/libexec/getty Pc vt220 off secure ttyCb /usr/libexec/getty Pc vt220 off secure tty00 /usr/libexec/getty std.9600 vt220 on secure tty01 /usr/libexec/getty std.9600 unknown off tty02 /usr/libexec/getty std.9600 unknown off tty03 /usr/libexec/getty std.9600 unknown off tty04 /usr/libexec/getty std.9600 unknown off tty05 /usr/libexec/getty std.9600 unknown off tty06 /usr/libexec/getty std.9600 unknown off tty07 /usr/libexec/getty std.9600 unknown off when getting the stage 2 boot loading prompt, I also get the following message : probing: pc0 com0 mem[639K 1023M a20=on] disk: fd0 fd1 hd0+ hd1+ OpenBSD/i386 BOOT 2.13 boot So, my installation sees an com port. is that because it is physically detected ? or because it is configured in the /etc/ttys file ? Thanks again
serial console device
Hello, I'm almost done configuring some little 1U server for my own edutainment, and I'm busy trying to configure the serial console. I have the excellent book of Michael W. Lucas calld Absolute OpenBSD, and he tells about serial console, that by entering set tty com0, we can access the machine from any other machine that has a serial port, and a port monitoring software. I use a windows computer for it, only because I know this machine's serial port works, and the configuration I set up for my cisco (which is the same config as the one for openbsd) works in that machine. However, I can't get my serial port on my server to work ; I type in set tty com0, and nothing nowhere ! It even seems this server does not boot up ! (I can't find it with an nmap -sP with serial on booting, while I can otherwise). The server is an old compaq server : Proliant DL 320 (G1), with only 1 serial port on the motherboard. Is there anyway for me to check my com port is detected and working, before I put my server into a datacenter ? Thanks nicodache
Re: serial console device
Hello, I was just looking this webpage when I got your answer ; as Michael Lucas didn't talk about this file in his talk about consoles, I though console ports were active by default... (but I found this file in this book's index, however) So, tty00 is tty00 /usr/libexec/getty std.9600 vt220 on secure, but it still does not work (I tried 19200 also). At the boot prompt, when I type set tty, there is some sort of autocompletion, that lists me only pc0, no com port is present. Does that mean the kernel does not recognize the serial ports ? I'm still running generic kernel plus RAIDframe. My serial port should be detected by the kernel, shouldn't they ? any guess would be neat, I really do feel unconfident with serial ports :-/ Would a dmesg be of any use in this case ? Thanks nicodache On 8/20/07, Jim Razmus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * nicodache [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070820 15:26]: Hello, I'm almost done configuring some little 1U server for my own edutainment, and I'm busy trying to configure the serial console. I have the excellent book of Michael W. Lucas calld Absolute OpenBSD, and he tells about serial console, that by entering set tty com0, we can access the machine from any other machine that has a serial port, and a port monitoring software. I use a windows computer for it, only because I know this machine's serial port works, and the configuration I set up for my cisco (which is the same config as the one for openbsd) works in that machine. However, I can't get my serial port on my server to work ; I type in set tty com0, and nothing nowhere ! It even seems this server does not boot up ! (I can't find it with an nmap -sP with serial on booting, while I can otherwise). The server is an old compaq server : Proliant DL 320 (G1), with only 1 serial port on the motherboard. Is there anyway for me to check my com port is detected and working, before I put my server into a datacenter ? Thanks nicodache This doesn't answer your question directly, but you could take a look in the FAQ here: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq7.html#SerCon and change the relevant line in /etc/ttys to something like: tty00 /usr/libexec/getty std.19200 vt220on secure If you don't enable the console, 'set tty com0' doesn't help. HTH, Jim
Re: serial console device
I wouldn't try to set set tty com0 in my /boot.conf, as it does not even work from boot prompt : I wouldn't like to have my computer stuck at boot, without beeing able to get OpenBSD up (seems like my computer does not continue booting after switching to the serial console). However, good news, I got to make it work, I don't know how, and I don't know why. I discovered this after plugging my only screen for both the server and the windows, on the windows ; I saw console output from the previous boot. However, I don't remember the settings, and I can't get it to work anymore :( I think some unplug/replug of serial cable was involved. Seems abnormal to me... nicodache On 8/20/07, Joachim Schipper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Aug 20, 2007 at 03:55:50PM -0400, Jim Razmus wrote: * nicodache [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070820 15:26]: Hello, I'm almost done configuring some little 1U server for my own edutainment, and I'm busy trying to configure the serial console. I have the excellent book of Michael W. Lucas calld Absolute OpenBSD, and he tells about serial console, that by entering set tty com0, we can access the machine from any other machine that has a serial port, and a port monitoring software. I use a windows computer for it, only because I know this machine's serial port works, and the configuration I set up for my cisco (which is the same config as the one for openbsd) works in that machine. However, I can't get my serial port on my server to work ; I type in set tty com0, and nothing nowhere ! It even seems this server does not boot up ! (I can't find it with an nmap -sP with serial on booting, while I can otherwise). The server is an old compaq server : Proliant DL 320 (G1), with only 1 serial port on the motherboard. Is there anyway for me to check my com port is detected and working, before I put my server into a datacenter ? This doesn't answer your question directly, but you could take a look in the FAQ here: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq7.html#SerCon and change the relevant line in /etc/ttys to something like: tty00 /usr/libexec/getty std.19200 vt220on secure If you don't enable the console, 'set tty com0' doesn't help. Actually, 'set tty com0' in /etc/boot.conf will tell the kernel to redirect the console messages (notably, the messages at boot) there. Also, are you *sure* you want to set the console to 19200 baud instead of the far-more-standard 9600? Even if you are, you should at least match it with /etc/boot.conf... (The above suggests booting into OpenBSD with both a serial cable and if possible a monitor attached, starting the serial session before OpenBSD starts booting, and looking at the results.) Joachim -- TFMotD: pkg_mklocatedb (1) - create a locate database for packages
Re: serial console device
Ok, the dmesg is here :) BTW, is it normal to still have access the the ctrl-alt-del keys when I'm (or at least I should be) using the serial to redirect all the i/o from the other computer ? DMESG : OpenBSD 4.1 (GENERIC.RAID) #0: Sun Jul 8 22:16:34 CEST 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.RAID cpu0: Intel Pentium III (GenuineIntel 686-class) 795 MHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE real mem = 1073311744 (1048156K) avail mem = 971534336 (948764K) using 4278 buffers containing 53788672 bytes (52528K) of memory mainbus0 (root) bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 12/31/99, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xeca00, SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xf2000 (41 entries) bios0: Compaq ProLiant DL320 pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xeca00/0x3600 pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfaca0/160 (8 entries) pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:15:0 (ServerWorks OSB4 rev 0x00) pcibios0: PCI bus #0 is the last bus bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x8000 0xc8000/0x8000 0xd/0x3400 0xe8000/0x8000! acpi at mainbus0 not configured cpu0 at mainbus0 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 ServerWorks CNB20LE Host rev 0x05 pchb1 at pci0 dev 0 function 1 ServerWorks CNB20LE Host rev 0x05 pci1 at pchb1 bus 1 pciide0 at pci1 dev 1 function 0 Promise PDC20375 rev 0x02: DMA wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: ST380811AS wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 76319MB, 156301488 sectors wd0(pciide0:0:0): using BIOS timings, Ultra-DMA mode 6 wd1 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0: ST380811AS wd1: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 76319MB, 156301488 sectors wd1(pciide0:1:0): using BIOS timings, Ultra-DMA mode 6 pciide0: using irq 3 for native-PCI interrupt siop0 at pci1 dev 2 function 0 Symbios Logic 53c895A rev 0x01: irq 3, using 8K of on-board RAM scsibus0 at siop0: 16 targets fxp0 at pci1 dev 3 function 0 Intel 8255x rev 0x08, i82559: irq 11, address 00:50:8b:e8:56:04 inphy0 at fxp0 phy 1: i82555 10/100 PHY, rev. 4 fxp1 at pci1 dev 4 function 0 Intel 8255x rev 0x08, i82559: irq 11, address 00:50:8b:e8:56:05 inphy1 at fxp1 phy 1: i82555 10/100 PHY, rev. 4 vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 ATI Rage XL rev 0x27 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) Compaq Netelligent ASMC rev 0x00 at pci0 dev 3 function 0 not configured piixpm0 at pci0 dev 15 function 0 ServerWorks OSB4 rev 0x51: polling iic0 at piixpm0 adm1022 at iic0 addr 0x2c not configured iic0: addr 0x2c 13=3a 14=4d 15=02 17=46 18=64 19=00 20=80 26=3b 27=1b 2b=7f 2c=80 37=48 38=c9 39=35 3a=c9 3e=41 3f=c9 40=2b 41=10 43=11 44=08 47=50 4a=01 4c=10 93=3a 94=4d 95=02 97=46 98=64 99=00 a0=80 a6=3b a7=1b ab=7f ac=80 b7=48 b8=c9 b9=35 ba=c9 be=41 bf=c9 c0=2b c1=10 c3=11 c4=08 c7=50 ca=01 cc=10: adm1022 pciide1 at pci0 dev 15 function 1 ServerWorks OSB4 IDE rev 0x00: DMA atapiscsi0 at pciide1 channel 1 drive 0 scsibus1 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets cd0 at scsibus1 targ 0 lun 0: COMPAQ, CD-ROM CRN-8241B, 2.23 SCSI0 5/cdrom removable cd0(pciide1:1:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2 ohci0 at pci0 dev 15 function 2 ServerWorks OSB4/CSB5 USB rev 0x04: irq 5, version 1.0, legacy support usb0 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0 at usb0 uhub0: ServerWorks OHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered isa0 at mainbus0 isadma0 at isa0 pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61 midi0 at pcppi0: PC speaker spkr0 at pcppi0 npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: reported by CPUID; using exception 16 pccom0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0/6 irq 6 drq 2 fd0 at fdc0 drive 0: 1.44MB 80 cyl, 2 head, 18 sec biomask f7ed netmask ffed ttymask ffef pctr: 686-class user-level performance counters enabled mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support Kernelized RAIDframe activated cd0(atapiscsi0:0:0): Check Condition (error 0x70) on opcode 0x0 SENSE KEY: Not Ready ASC/ASCQ: Medium Not Present raid0 (root): (RAID Level 1) total number of sectors is 156091648 (76216 MB) as root dkcsum: wd0 matches BIOS drive 0x80 dkcsum: wd1 matches BIOS drive 0x81 swapmount: no device On 8/20/07, Darren Spruell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/20/07, nicodache [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I was just looking this webpage when I got your answer ; as Michael Lucas didn't talk about this file in his talk about consoles, I though console ports were active by default... (but I found this file in this book's index, however) So, tty00 is tty00 /usr/libexec/getty std.9600 vt220 on secure, but it still does not work (I tried 19200 also). At the boot prompt, when I type set tty, there is some sort of autocompletion, that lists me only pc0, no com port is present. Does that mean the kernel does not recognize the serial ports ? I'm still running generic kernel plus RAIDframe. My serial port
Re: Compaq 6710b
what do you mean by couldn't boot the cd41.iso proprerly ? did you get any error message, any kernel panic, or things like that ? for info to the other RpenBSD-misc reader, this laptop seems to be more than recent, with hardware like Core 2 duo 7300, GB965, SATA drive, X3100 (Intel gpu), broadcom netlink GigE... On 7/18/07, Frans Haarman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My boss gave me a laptop! Its a Compaq 6710b. I am hoping someone is running OpenBSD on it. I couldnt boot the cd41.iso properly. Anyone running similar laptop ?
