Re: OT Strange Punishment

2007-09-21 Thread Zach Keatts
The kid's an idiot. Set up qemu on the mandatory windows machine and run your Ubuntu. The sentence said nothing about running an emulated OS on your monitored OS. The kid is just a whiner First they give me two felonies, then they throw me in prison, and now this. As if using Windows is more

Re: OT Strange Punishment

2007-08-29 Thread Chris Smith
On 8/28/07, Dave Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We should all care, because there's actually an important question buried in this: to what extent is it acceptable for 'the government' to demand that someone make substantial or expensive changes in their life merely for its convenience?

Re: OT Strange Punishment

2007-08-29 Thread Dave Anderson
On Wed, 29 Aug 2007, Lars Hansson wrote: But, as I understand the issue, this is _not_ part of his specified punishment -- it's just a side-effect of the manner in which the government wants to impose a portion of his punishment. If he don't like it he could always take the alternative; going

Re: OT Strange Punishment

2007-08-29 Thread Jona Joachim
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 04:37:09 -0500 Gilles Chehade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 11:19:40AM -0400, Dave Anderson wrote: On Tue, 28 Aug 2007, Lars Hansson wrote: On 8/28/07, Die Gestalt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why doesn't he run the monitoring software in a virtual

Re: OT Strange Punishment

2007-08-29 Thread Jack J. Woehr
On Aug 29, 2007, at 11:57 AM, Jona Joachim wrote: It's not about the guy, it's about the fact that Microsoft makes money out of his punishment. I'm with you, Jona. The fact that the government supports Microsoft is contrary to the free market philosophy that the US government preaches. And

Re: OT Strange Punishment

2007-08-29 Thread Rafael Almeida
The main problem I see here is the government incentivating the purshase of Microsoft product. It's kinda dumb paying the guy pay to a company that has nothing to do witht he whole thing as a punishment for your crimes. It would make sense if the government charged him for using some government

Re: OT Strange Punishment

2007-08-29 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 08:32:25PM -0300, Rafael Almeida wrote: The main problem I see here is the government incentivating the purshase of Microsoft product. It's kinda dumb paying the guy pay to a company that has nothing to do witht he whole thing as a punishment for your crimes. It would

Re: OT Strange Punishment

2007-08-28 Thread Die Gestalt
Why doesn't he run the monitoring software in a virtual machine? On 8/28/07, Terry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found this article interesting. http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-6204348.html -- Terry http://tyson.homeunix.org http://www.UnixByte.com

OT Strange Punishment

2007-08-28 Thread Terry
I found this article interesting. http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-6204348.html -- Terry http://tyson.homeunix.org http://www.UnixByte.com

Re: OT Strange Punishment

2007-08-28 Thread Lars Hansson
On 8/28/07, Die Gestalt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why doesn't he run the monitoring software in a virtual machine? Because it would violate his parole? Who cares anyway? If you can't do the time don't do the crime. --- Lars Hansson

Re: OT Strange Punishment

2007-08-28 Thread Die Gestalt
Good point. On 8/28/07, Lars Hansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/28/07, Die Gestalt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why doesn't he run the monitoring software in a virtual machine? Because it would violate his parole? Who cares anyway? If you can't do the time don't do the crime. --- Lars

Re: OT Strange Punishment

2007-08-28 Thread Dave Anderson
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007, Lars Hansson wrote: On 8/28/07, Die Gestalt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why doesn't he run the monitoring software in a virtual machine? Because it would violate his parole? Who cares anyway? If you can't do the time don't do the crime. We should all care, because there's

Re: OT Strange Punishment

2007-08-28 Thread Jack J. Woehr
It just shows how these laws are designed to protect Microsoft at the expense of everyone else. Microsoft has been very effective over the past decades at lobbying congress to enclose the commons of computer science. There is a bill before Congress now to roll back patent protection, notably in

Re: OT Strange Punishment

2007-08-28 Thread Gilles Chehade
On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 11:19:40AM -0400, Dave Anderson wrote: On Tue, 28 Aug 2007, Lars Hansson wrote: On 8/28/07, Die Gestalt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why doesn't he run the monitoring software in a virtual machine? Because it would violate his parole? Who cares anyway? If you can't do

Re: OT Strange Punishment

2007-08-28 Thread Dave Anderson
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007, Gilles Chehade wrote: On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 11:19:40AM -0400, Dave Anderson wrote: On Tue, 28 Aug 2007, Lars Hansson wrote: On 8/28/07, Die Gestalt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why doesn't he run the monitoring software in a virtual machine? Because it would violate his

Re: OT Strange Punishment

2007-08-28 Thread Emilio Perea
On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 12:49:56PM -0400, Dave Anderson wrote: But, as I understand the issue, this is _not_ part of his specified punishment -- it's just a side-effect of the manner in which the government wants to impose a portion of his punishment. There appears to be no real reason for it

Re: OT Strange Punishment

2007-08-28 Thread Daniel A. Ramaley
On Tuesday 28 August 2007 10:32, you wrote: There is a bill before Congress now to roll back patent protection, notably in the field of software. American users of OpenBSD might want to follow this struggle, which is running into massive opposition from non-comp-sci patent holders. Software

Re: OT Strange Punishment

2007-08-28 Thread Dave Anderson
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007, Emilio Perea wrote: On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 12:49:56PM -0400, Dave Anderson wrote: But, as I understand the issue, this is _not_ part of his specified punishment -- it's just a side-effect of the manner in which the government wants to impose a portion of his punishment.

Re: OT Strange Punishment

2007-08-28 Thread Die Gestalt
I think they simply have the monitoring software for Windows and not for Linux because it has not been bought/developed/whatever. Linux is not the point, it would be the same if he were using hardware that prevents the monitoring (such as a firewall). While I sympathize with what the fellow is

Re: OT Strange Punishment

2007-08-28 Thread Lars Hansson
But, as I understand the issue, this is _not_ part of his specified punishment -- it's just a side-effect of the manner in which the government wants to impose a portion of his punishment. If he don't like it he could always take the alternative; going to jail. All things considered, being

Re: OT Strange Punishment

2007-08-28 Thread Steve Shockley
Lars Hansson wrote: I don't think think running Linux is a basic human right. I'm not aware that using a computer is a basic human right...