Re: AMD64 packages - Reflecting dynamic linking

2015-01-01 Thread Adam Thompson
On 15-01-01 07:44 PM, Joel Rees wrote: At the risk of having Theo tell me to shut up and get back to work on things that matter, ... and I suppose it's inevitible that someone will want to control the world, but I really wish you and your friends would quit lying to yourselves about power. I

Re: AMD64 packages - Reflecting dynamic linking

2015-01-01 Thread Joel Rees
At the risk of having Theo tell me to shut up and get back to work on things that matter, ... On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 1:33 AM, FRIGN wrote: > On Fri, 12 Dec 2014 20:02:33 +0100 > Ingo Schwarze wrote: > >> There are dragons. > >> If this scares anybody, i'm not surprised; updating libraries is >>

Re: AMD64 packages - Reflecting dynamic linking

2015-01-01 Thread Jorge Gabriel Lopez Paramount
Quoting FRIGN : It may be a little far-fetched, but I'm sure it would be possible to have one package-manager for all distributions if there would just be the motivation to distribute statically linked binaries and not fuck things up with distribution-specific folder-structures. I'm not a hack

Re: AMD64 packages - Reflecting dynamic linking

2015-01-01 Thread FRIGN
On Thu, 01 Jan 2015 10:04:26 -0700 Theo de Raadt wrote: > Ah, another arrogance -- you came here to advertise. Nope, if you read my first mail again, you'd see that I did not mention our project once and only presented it to challenge your assumption that I'm just some warrior presenting crude i

Re: AMD64 packages - Reflecting dynamic linking

2015-01-01 Thread Theo de Raadt
> > And who are you, and what you have you done to test and then prove > > your thesis? > > Absolutely nothing, I must assume. > > Your assumption is wrong. I am working with my colleagues from 2f30 on > the "morpheus"-project[0] (including package-manager) and we have a set > of static binary-pac

Re: AMD64 packages - Reflecting dynamic linking

2015-01-01 Thread FRIGN
On Thu, 01 Jan 2015 09:37:24 -0700 Theo de Raadt wrote: > And who are you, and what you have you done to test and then prove > your thesis? > Absolutely nothing, I must assume. Your assumption is wrong. I am working with my colleagues from 2f30 on the "morpheus"-project[0] (including package-man

Re: AMD64 packages - Reflecting dynamic linking

2015-01-01 Thread Theo de Raadt
And who are you, and what you have you done to test and then prove your thesis? Absolutely nothing, I must assume. (BTW, your argument is weak and would be stronger if you tied it into the faked moonlandings). > I may get a little off-topic here and object for this very important > topic to be d

Re: AMD64 packages - Reflecting dynamic linking

2015-01-01 Thread FRIGN
On Fri, 12 Dec 2014 20:02:33 +0100 Ingo Schwarze wrote: > There are dragons. > If this scares anybody, i'm not surprised; updating libraries is > not a playground for newbies. > That, actually, is *terrible* advice and almost guarantees a fiasco. > If you edit shlib_version manually, you build