Re: Is there such a thing as a fanless OpenBSD-capable laptop?

2016-06-14 Thread frantisek holop
Ulf Brosziewski, 15 Jun 2016 00:48: > Your feedback in bugs@ would be appreciated. Can you exclude that > it's a hardware failure? Some people claim that various Acer models > are prone to such failures because the touchpads have a bad > electrical grounding. i sent a reply to your bugs@ reply

Re: Is there such a thing as a fanless OpenBSD-capable laptop?

2016-06-14 Thread Ulf Brosziewski
On 06/14/2016 11:58 PM, frantisek holop wrote: > ropers, 14 Jun 2016 03:37: >>> the acer travelmate b115-m is an el cheapo netbook >>> with no moving parts if you stick an ssd in it. >>> >> >> Thanks for the addition and dmesg. Do you know if all the Travelmate B115's >> are fanless or only the M

Re: Is there such a thing as a fanless OpenBSD-capable laptop?

2016-06-14 Thread frantisek holop
ropers, 14 Jun 2016 03:37: > > the acer travelmate b115-m is an el cheapo netbook > > with no moving parts if you stick an ssd in it. > > > > Thanks for the addition and dmesg. Do you know if all the Travelmate B115's > are fanless or only the M models, not MP or P? What about the B116's and >

Re: Is there such a thing as a fanless OpenBSD-capable laptop?

2016-06-14 Thread frantisek holop
Erling Westenvik, 14 Jun 2016 09:03: > With all due respect: This is not the place to ask for detailed specs > for a whole series of computers. You could easily have found answers to all > of your questions above if you had done some very basic homework: > >

Re: Is there such a thing as a fanless OpenBSD-capable laptop?

2016-06-14 Thread Erling Westenvik
On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 03:37:01AM +0200, ropers wrote: > On 14 June 2016 at 00:53, frantisek holop wrote: > > > the acer travelmate b115-m is an el cheapo netbook > > with no moving parts if you stick an ssd in it. > > Thanks for the addition and dmesg. Do you know if all the

Re: Is there such a thing as a fanless OpenBSD-capable laptop?

2016-06-13 Thread ropers
On 14 June 2016 at 00:53, frantisek holop wrote: > the acer travelmate b115-m is an el cheapo netbook > with no moving parts if you stick an ssd in it. > Thanks for the addition and dmesg. Do you know if all the Travelmate B115's are fanless or only the M models, not MP or P?

Re: Is there such a thing as a fanless OpenBSD-capable laptop?

2016-06-13 Thread frantisek holop
the acer travelmate b115-m is an el cheapo netbook with no moving parts if you stick an ssd in it. the sound of silence is very relaxing. it suspends, resumes, most things work; the clickpad and the wifi being notable exceptions. but there is no wifi card blacklist (eat shit lenovo) so problem

Re: Is there such a thing as a fanless OpenBSD-capable laptop?

2016-06-13 Thread lists
> :It is not a good idea to mix topics, stay focused and think before send. > : > :Attitude is formed based on intelligence of email postings. We all know > :highly educated people can disagree without negative feelings. Grow up. > : > :I encourage you to keep posting until you meet the quality

Re: Is there such a thing as a fanless OpenBSD-capable laptop?

2016-06-13 Thread Peter Hessler
On 2016 Jun 13 (Mon) at 05:25:17 +0300 (+0300), li...@wrant.com wrote: :It is not a good idea to mix topics, stay focused and think before send. : :Attitude is formed based on intelligence of email postings. We all know :highly educated people can disagree without negative feelings. Grow up. :

Re: Is there such a thing as a fanless OpenBSD-capable laptop?

2016-06-13 Thread bytevolcano
I'll see what I can get for you, ropers. In the mean while, I can say that most of the devices on my CF-30 and CF-31 function well, as indicated by the dmesg. Then again, they only have basic options on those laptops. On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 09:25:29 +0200 ropers wrote: > > Also,

Re: Is there such a thing as a fanless OpenBSD-capable laptop?

2016-06-13 Thread lists
> On 13 June 2016 at 05:29, wrote: > > ignore this entire mediocre thread, search the archive instead. Mon, 13 Jun 2016 09:25:29 +0200 ropers > I did. This is a lie. You created the thread on purpose with wrong definitions. This is towards future readers,

Re: Is there such a thing as a fanless OpenBSD-capable laptop?

2016-06-12 Thread lists
Mon, 13 Jun 2016 13:07:14 +1000 > Irony mode ACTIVATE. Exactly: ignore this entire mediocre thread, search the archive instead.

Re: Is there such a thing as a fanless OpenBSD-capable laptop?

2016-06-12 Thread bytevolcano
On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 05:25:17 +0300 li...@wrant.com wrote: > ... until you meet the quality expectations. Irony mode ACTIVATE.

Re: Is there such a thing as a fanless OpenBSD-capable laptop?

2016-06-12 Thread lists
> > Sun, 12 Jun 2016 23:48:33 +0200 ropers > > > Compiled for myself and the archives: > > > > For you only, the archives deserve much better: higher quality threads. > > > > > < Fanless OpenBSD-capable (probably) laptops > > > > > You're in for a LOT of disappointment

Re: Is there such a thing as a fanless OpenBSD-capable laptop?

2016-06-12 Thread bytevolcano
If you can't read the question properly, please remain silent. On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 02:21:48 +0300 li...@wrant.com wrote: > For you only, the archives deserve much better: higher quality > threads. ... > You're in for a LOT of disappointment if you follow marketing material > without dmesg and

Re: Is there such a thing as a fanless OpenBSD-capable laptop?

2016-06-12 Thread noah pugsley
On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 4:21 PM, wrote: > Sun, 12 Jun 2016 23:48:33 +0200 ropers > > Compiled for myself and the archives: > > For you only, the archives deserve much better: higher quality threads. > > > < Fanless OpenBSD-capable (probably) laptops > > >

Re: Is there such a thing as a fanless OpenBSD-capable laptop?

2016-06-12 Thread lists
Sun, 12 Jun 2016 23:48:33 +0200 ropers > Compiled for myself and the archives: For you only, the archives deserve much better: higher quality threads. > < Fanless OpenBSD-capable (probably) laptops > You're in for a LOT of disappointment if you follow marketing material

Re: Is there such a thing as a fanless OpenBSD-capable laptop?

2016-06-12 Thread ropers
Compiled for myself and the archives: < Fanless OpenBSD-capable (probably) laptops > Some of these specs/prices highly uncertain/unreliable/subject to change. Interface abundance decreases from top to bottom. Toughbooks don't seem to have built-in mics, which may be a plus for the practical

Re: Is there such a thing as a fanless OpenBSD-capable laptop?

2016-06-12 Thread Jorge Castillo
> Wrant. Really appreciate it. Just ignore it, you can't let an isolated response taint your view of the mailing list! I wish I could help you, but I don't know an answer to your question.

Re: Is there such a thing as a fanless OpenBSD-capable laptop?

2016-06-12 Thread bytevolcano
Thanks for all the private personal attacks and abusive messages such as this one, Wrant. Really appreciate it. On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 13:46:47 +0300 li...@wrant.com wrote: > Shithead. Get lost. You're on auto-delete. You don't exist.

Re: Is there such a thing as a fanless OpenBSD-capable laptop?

2016-06-12 Thread bytevolcano
Allow me to explain that complex thought. I didn't say that all machines are useless, nor did I say that any machine is useless. One machine that is useful for Purpose #1 is useless for Purpose #2; likewise, the machine that works well for Purpose #2 is quite possibly useless for Purpose #1.

Re: Is there such a thing as a fanless OpenBSD-capable laptop?

2016-06-12 Thread lists
Sun, 12 Jun 2016 11:07:24 +1000 > On the other hand, those types of machines are useless for high-end > video editing, which may be what a "desktop" is to you. That's one very complex thought, hold it, keep still, don't move an inch. No machine is useless, it's the

Re: Is there such a thing as a fanless OpenBSD-capable laptop?

2016-06-11 Thread joekiser
On Sat, Jun 11, 2016, at 13:03, ropers wrote: > Does anybody here have a fanless laptop they run OpenBSD on? > (Possibly even as their primary computer? How poor of a desktop > replacement > is it?) > > If not, is there anything that comes close (and how much can I not afford > it)? > For

Re: Is there such a thing as a fanless OpenBSD-capable laptop?

2016-06-11 Thread bytevolcano
On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 03:21:40 +0300 li...@wrant.com wrote: > Sat, 11 Jun 2016 20:03:37 +0200 ropers > > Does anybody here have a fanless laptop they run OpenBSD on? > > (Possibly even as their primary computer? How poor of a desktop > > replacement is it?) > > For a true no

Re: Is there such a thing as a fanless OpenBSD-capable laptop?

2016-06-11 Thread lists
Sat, 11 Jun 2016 20:03:37 +0200 ropers > Does anybody here have a fanless laptop they run OpenBSD on? > (Possibly even as their primary computer? How poor of a desktop replacement > is it?) For a true no moving parts passive cooling system, you're out of luck with the desktop

Re: Is there such a thing as a fanless OpenBSD-capable laptop?

2016-06-11 Thread bytevolcano
I do have a Panasonic Toughbook CF-30 which doesn't have a fan, I have successfully run -current on it. If you want something more modern, but a bit smaller, the CF-19 may be a good choice. It is a bit small though. On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 20:03:37 +0200 ropers wrote: > Does

Is there such a thing as a fanless OpenBSD-capable laptop?

2016-06-11 Thread ropers
Does anybody here have a fanless laptop they run OpenBSD on? (Possibly even as their primary computer? How poor of a desktop replacement is it?) If not, is there anything that comes close (and how much can I not afford it)?