Re: OpenBGPD Flaps, 32bit ASn in the wild.

2009-01-30 Thread OpenBSD User
Just to add my vote. I'm with Claudio on this one. Surely it's Input Validation 101 . Validate the input yes, but don't tamper with what's not yours It is not what we do and IMO trying to fiddle out bad path attributes and still use the crippled rest smells like routing loops

Re: OpenBGPD Flaps, 32bit ASn in the wild

2009-01-30 Thread OpenBSD User
There are, by the way, one or two interesting threads out there from the commercial router world about the same topic.. http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/msg14345.html

Re: OpenBGPD Flaps, 32bit ASn in the wild.

2009-01-30 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Fri, 30.01.2009 at 04:08:34 -0800, OpenBSD User gb10hkzo-open...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Just to add my vote. I'm with Claudio on this one. me too. Validate the input yes, but don't tamper with what's not yours After reading the thread on idr, I'm under the impression that the

Re: OpenBGPD Flaps, 32bit ASn in the wild.

2009-01-29 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Sat, 10.01.2009 at 12:11:03 -0600, tico t...@raapid.net wrote: http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/usr.sbin/bgpd/rde.c looking at CVS, it seems that multiple patches are needed, right? And we get the joy of threading them together ourselves, understanding OpenBGPd's code in the

Re: OpenBGPD Flaps, 32bit ASn in the wild.

2009-01-29 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Thu, 29.01.2009 at 14:47:30 +0100, Toni Mueller openbsd-m...@oeko.net wrote: And we get the joy of threading them together ourselves, understanding OpenBGPd's code in the process... maybe. can I just plug in a bgpd from -current into a 4.4, or preferably 4.3 system, assuming that I

Re: OpenBGPD Flaps, 32bit ASn in the wild.

2009-01-29 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 03:28:14PM +0100, Toni Mueller wrote: Hi, On Thu, 29.01.2009 at 14:47:30 +0100, Toni Mueller openbsd-m...@oeko.net wrote: And we get the joy of threading them together ourselves, understanding OpenBGPd's code in the process... maybe. can I just plug in a bgpd

Re: OpenBGPD Flaps, 32bit ASn in the wild.

2009-01-29 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2009-01-29, Toni Mueller openbsd-m...@oeko.net wrote: Hi, On Sat, 10.01.2009 at 12:11:03 -0600, tico t...@raapid.net wrote: http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/usr.sbin/bgpd/rde.c looking at CVS, it seems that multiple patches are needed, right? And we get the joy of threading

Re: OpenBGPD Flaps, 32bit ASn in the wild.

2009-01-29 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi Stuart, On Thu, 29.01.2009 at 16:52:55 +, Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.org wrote: This should work, but I run -current everywhere, I have no 4.4 boxes to test it on. thanks! I'll try that first, although I hoped to also bag the other improvements while I'm at it. Incidentally

Re: OpenBGPD Flaps, 32bit ASn in the wild.

2009-01-29 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi Claudio, On Thu, 29.01.2009 at 17:13:32 +0100, Claudio Jeker cje...@diehard.n-r-g.com wrote: Will most probably not work. The -current bgpd has a reworked kroute.c that needs a -current kernel. thanks for confirming my doubts. Now I can try to find out whether the changes in kroute.c are

Re: OpenBGPD Flaps, 32bit ASn in the wild.

2009-01-29 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 04:52:55PM +, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2009-01-29, Toni Mueller openbsd-m...@oeko.net wrote: Hi, On Sat, 10.01.2009 at 12:11:03 -0600, tico t...@raapid.net wrote: http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/usr.sbin/bgpd/rde.c looking at CVS, it seems that

Re: OpenBGPD Flaps, 32bit ASn in the wild.

2009-01-29 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2009-01-29, Claudio Jeker cje...@diehard.n-r-g.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 04:52:55PM +, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2009-01-29, Toni Mueller openbsd-m...@oeko.net wrote: Hi, On Sat, 10.01.2009 at 12:11:03 -0600, tico t...@raapid.net wrote:

Re: OpenBGPD Flaps, 32bit ASn in the wild.

2009-01-10 Thread Falk Brockerhoff
Am 10.12.2008 um 23:32 schrieb Claudio Jeker: The best thing we can do is to mark the update as ineligible so it will not propaget further and will not be used but this is a quite radical measure. On the other hand this is porbably the safest way to handle this error. Sound good for me.

Re: OpenBGPD Flaps, 32bit ASn in the wild.

2009-01-10 Thread tico
Falk Brockerhoff wrote: Am 10.12.2008 um 23:32 schrieb Claudio Jeker: The best thing we can do is to mark the update as ineligible so it will not propaget further and will not be used but this is a quite radical measure. On the other hand this is porbably the safest way to handle this error.

Re: OpenBGPD Flaps, 32bit ASn in the wild.

2008-12-11 Thread tico
Claudio Jeker wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 04:47:31PM -0500, Ted Unangst wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Claudio Jeker cje...@diehard.n-r-g.com wrote: I looked at the porblem and I'm currently unsure what the best way is to handle such bad AS4_* attributes. The RFC in all its

Re: OpenBGPD Flaps, 32bit ASn in the wild.

2008-12-11 Thread Graeme Lee
tico wrote: Claudio Jeker wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 04:47:31PM -0500, Ted Unangst wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Claudio Jeker cje...@diehard.n-r-g.com wrote: I looked at the porblem and I'm currently unsure what the best way is to handle such bad AS4_* attributes. The

OpenBGPD Flaps, 32bit ASn in the wild.

2008-12-10 Thread Peter Bristow
Hi All, The AS at the company I work for running (OpenBSD 4.2 and 4.3) as well as the AS run by a associate of mine (OpenBSD 4.4) experienced rather wild route flaps earlier today. Quoted from Andy Davidson's post to nanog. It seems that the prefix causing OpenBGPd speakers to die is

Re: OpenBGPD Flaps, 32bit ASn in the wild.

2008-12-10 Thread tico
Ditto. This has just caused me the same problems. Alex at Hurricane Electric found this for me, and my ipv4 BGP sessions have *only* stabilized after filtering out this prefix (4.4-RELEASE on i386). I'll post up MRT dumps if anyone's interested. -Tico Peter Bristow wrote: Hi All, The AS

Re: OpenBGPD Flaps, 32bit ASn in the wild.

2008-12-10 Thread William R Sowerbutts
Hi all We were one of the AS's affected by this -- it took down both of our (otherwise very reliable!) OpenBSD 4.4 routers, and I spent much of this afternoon diagnosing and then working around the problem. The problem is that the AS4_PATH value being transmitted for prefix 91.207.218.0/23

Re: OpenBGPD Flaps, 32bit ASn in the wild.

2008-12-10 Thread tico
tico wrote: Ditto. This has just caused me the same problems. Alex at Hurricane Electric found this for me, and my ipv4 BGP sessions have *only* stabilized after filtering out this prefix (4.4-RELEASE on i386). I'll post up MRT dumps if anyone's interested. -Tico Peter Bristow wrote: Hi

Re: OpenBGPD Flaps, 32bit ASn in the wild.

2008-12-10 Thread Peter Bristow
Hi So either of you should contact the ukranian ISP who is at that prefix; that is the problem, right? Yes we've been in contact with said ISP. They have called out their on call engineer and their upstreams are applying pressure. This time it was unintentional. A rouge isp DoSing all

Re: OpenBGPD Flaps, 32bit ASn in the wild.

2008-12-10 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 09:19:42PM +, Peter Bristow wrote: Hi So either of you should contact the ukranian ISP who is at that prefix; that is the problem, right? Yes we've been in contact with said ISP. They have called out their on call engineer and their upstreams are applying

Re: OpenBGPD Flaps, 32bit ASn in the wild.

2008-12-10 Thread tico
So either of you should contact the ukranian ISP who is at that prefix; that is the problem, right? Yes we've been in contact with said ISP. They have called out their on call engineer and their upstreams are applying pressure. This time it was unintentional. A rouge isp DoSing all

Re: OpenBGPD Flaps, 32bit ASn in the wild.

2008-12-10 Thread Ted Unangst
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Claudio Jeker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I looked at the porblem and I'm currently unsure what the best way is to handle such bad AS4_* attributes. The RFC in all its glory does not mention how to handle errors. So at the moment I'm in favor of just

Re: OpenBGPD Flaps, 32bit ASn in the wild.

2008-12-10 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 04:47:31PM -0500, Ted Unangst wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Claudio Jeker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I looked at the porblem and I'm currently unsure what the best way is to handle such bad AS4_* attributes. The RFC in all its glory does not mention how to