Re: OpenBSD as Open Networking OS

2017-07-17 Thread miraculli .
Thanks for your input.

I get the point with the closed ASICs. I wasn´t aware of that and it
explains why there is even no OpenWRT, pfsense etc. support for this
devices

sad.

best
Thomas





2017-07-17 11:45 GMT+02:00 Reyk Floeter :
> Yes, I'm very interested in this but there is no "open" hardware.
>
> As Mischa mentioned, all of the platforms need vendor drivers
> and AFAIK all of them are gigantic and non-free *.
>
> OpenFlow is an alternative to control switches in a standard way
> without direct access to the switch chipsets, but it is a long way to
> get switchd(8) to this point. And it has limitations, of course.
>
> *) let me know if I'm wrong.
>
> Reyk
>
>> On 17.07.2017, at 11:00, miraculli .  wrote:
>>
>> Hi misc,
>>
>> I just read about a trending topic: SDN and Open Networking.
>> The principal idea behind Open Networking is to allow the customer
>> to install a custom OS to switch-hardware.
>> The main software player in this business seems to be a penguin OS
>> called: Cumulus
>> There is also a overview of devices that are able install a custom OS:
>>
>> https://cumulusnetworks.com/products/hardware-compatibility-list/
>>
>> Is there any experience using OpenBSD in this domain and with this
>> kind of hardware?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Thomas
>>
>



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Re: OpenBSD as Open Networking OS

2017-07-17 Thread Reyk Floeter
Yes, I'm very interested in this but there is no "open" hardware.

As Mischa mentioned, all of the platforms need vendor drivers
and AFAIK all of them are gigantic and non-free *.

OpenFlow is an alternative to control switches in a standard way
without direct access to the switch chipsets, but it is a long way to
get switchd(8) to this point. And it has limitations, of course.

*) let me know if I'm wrong.

Reyk

> On 17.07.2017, at 11:00, miraculli .  wrote:
> 
> Hi misc,
> 
> I just read about a trending topic: SDN and Open Networking.
> The principal idea behind Open Networking is to allow the customer
> to install a custom OS to switch-hardware.
> The main software player in this business seems to be a penguin OS
> called: Cumulus
> There is also a overview of devices that are able install a custom OS:
> 
> https://cumulusnetworks.com/products/hardware-compatibility-list/
> 
> Is there any experience using OpenBSD in this domain and with this
> kind of hardware?
> 
> Thanks
> Thomas
> 



Re: OpenBSD as Open Networking OS

2017-07-17 Thread Mischa Peters
Hi Thomas,

I used to work for Cumulus and the tricky part with this is that you need to 
get access to the broadcom (and melanox) shipsets, which is not trivial and 
costly. 

I would love to see a BSD running on open networking equipment!

There are more NOS out there but they have their own speciality. Cumulus is the 
most generic to the deploy. There is also BigSwitch and IP Fusion. 

Mischa


> On 17 Jul 2017, at 11:00, miraculli .  wrote:
> 
> Hi misc,
> 
> I just read about a trending topic: SDN and Open Networking.
> The principal idea behind Open Networking is to allow the customer
> to install a custom OS to switch-hardware.
> The main software player in this business seems to be a penguin OS
> called: Cumulus
> There is also a overview of devices that are able install a custom OS:
> 
> https://cumulusnetworks.com/products/hardware-compatibility-list/
> 
> Is there any experience using OpenBSD in this domain and with this
> kind of hardware?
> 
> Thanks
> Thomas
> 



OpenBSD as Open Networking OS

2017-07-17 Thread miraculli .
Hi misc,

I just read about a trending topic: SDN and Open Networking.
The principal idea behind Open Networking is to allow the customer
to install a custom OS to switch-hardware.
The main software player in this business seems to be a penguin OS
called: Cumulus
There is also a overview of devices that are able install a custom OS:

https://cumulusnetworks.com/products/hardware-compatibility-list/

Is there any experience using OpenBSD in this domain and with this
kind of hardware?

Thanks
Thomas