Re: The "unknown" in i386-unknown-openbsd5.4

2014-02-03 Thread Christer Solskogen
On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 6:20 PM, Andy wrote: > We've all 'written' things that get misinterpreted.. context is often lost > in written language ;) > Which is a good reminder to think before you press send on that email. -- chs

Re: The "unknown" in i386-unknown-openbsd5.4

2014-02-03 Thread Andy
We've all 'written' things that get misinterpreted.. context is often lost in written language ;) On Mon 03 Feb 2014 17:05:25 GMT, Adam Jensen wrote: On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 16:57:28 + Andy wrote: Please realise who you are talking to and learn to treat this community with respect whether t

Re: The "unknown" in i386-unknown-openbsd5.4

2014-02-03 Thread Adam Jensen
On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 16:57:28 + Andy wrote: > Please realise who you are talking to and learn to treat this > community with respect whether they're a first time user, or a > lead dev.. > Despite the contextual irony, that seems like a good point. Thanks!

Re: The "unknown" in i386-unknown-openbsd5.4

2014-02-03 Thread Andy
Claudio is one of the main developers and contributers to OpenBSD and does what he does for free for fun like all the devs, so we can go to work and get paid.. Please realise who you are talking to and learn to treat this community with respect whether they're a first time user, or a lead dev.

Re: The "unknown" in i386-unknown-openbsd5.4

2014-02-03 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 11:18:30AM -0500, Adam Jensen wrote: > On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 05:15:39 -0500 > Brad Smith wrote: > > > Enough is enough. Just drop it. Of course people are > > going to start making fun of this non issue. > > > > How bizarre. I'm sorry the discussion has offended you but I

Re: The "unknown" in i386-unknown-openbsd5.4

2014-02-03 Thread Adam Jensen
On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 05:15:39 -0500 Brad Smith wrote: > Enough is enough. Just drop it. Of course people are > going to start making fun of this non issue. > How bizarre. I'm sorry the discussion has offended you but I don't think your commands have any authority. If it's a delicate topic, perha

Re: The "unknown" in i386-unknown-openbsd5.4

2014-02-03 Thread Brad Smith
On 02/02/14 1:50 PM, Adam Jensen wrote: On Sun, 2 Feb 2014 18:18:06 + (UTC) na...@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) wrote: Miod Vallat wrote: i386-donatetoopenbsdfoundationtoday-openbsd5.4? or i386-bikeshed-openbsd. What is the string equivalent of goatse or tubgirl? Maybe somet

Re: The "unknown" in i386-unknown-openbsd5.4

2014-02-02 Thread Adam Jensen
On Sun, 2 Feb 2014 18:18:06 + (UTC) na...@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) wrote: > Miod Vallat wrote: > > > > i386-donatetoopenbsdfoundationtoday-openbsd5.4? > > > > or i386-bikeshed-openbsd. > > What is the string equivalent of goatse or tubgirl? > Maybe something simple that distin

Re: The "unknown" in i386-unknown-openbsd5.4

2014-02-02 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Miod Vallat wrote: > > i386-donatetoopenbsdfoundationtoday-openbsd5.4? > > or i386-bikeshed-openbsd. What is the string equivalent of goatse or tubgirl? -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber na...@mips.inka.de

Re: The "unknown" in i386-unknown-openbsd5.4

2014-02-02 Thread Miod Vallat
> i386-donatetoopenbsdfoundationtoday-openbsd5.4? or i386-bikeshed-openbsd.

Re: The "unknown" in i386-unknown-openbsd5.4

2014-02-02 Thread Adam Jensen
On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 18:43:15 +0100 j...@wxcvbn.org (Jérémie Courrèges-Anglas) wrote: > >> > Maybe we can just leave it. > >> > >> Indeed. > >> > > > > Well, at least you didn't call it a bikeshed issue (though, > > that probably would have been a more compelling statement). > > Fine: I call thi

Re: The "unknown" in i386-unknown-openbsd5.4

2014-02-02 Thread Jérémie Courrèges-Anglas
Adam Jensen writes: > On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 18:19:50 +0100 > j...@wxcvbn.org (Jérémie Courrèges-Anglas) wrote: > >> > Maybe we can just leave it. >> >> Indeed. >> > > Well, at least you didn't call it a bikeshed issue (though, that > probably would have been a more compelling statement). Fine: I

Re: The "unknown" in i386-unknown-openbsd5.4

2014-02-02 Thread Adam Jensen
On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 18:19:50 +0100 j...@wxcvbn.org (Jérémie Courrèges-Anglas) wrote: > > Maybe we can just leave it. > > Indeed. > Well, at least you didn't call it a bikeshed issue (though, that probably would have been a more compelling statement).

Re: The "unknown" in i386-unknown-openbsd5.4

2014-02-02 Thread Jérémie Courrèges-Anglas
na...@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) writes: [...] > Maybe we can just leave it. Indeed. -- jca | PGP: 0x1524E7EE / 5135 92C1 AD36 5293 2BDF DDCC 0DFA 74AE 1524 E7EE (previous: 0x06A11494 / 61DB D9A0 00A4 67CF 2A90 8961 6191 8FBF 06A1 1494)

Re: The "unknown" in i386-unknown-openbsd5.4

2014-02-02 Thread Kenneth Westerback
i386-donatetoopenbsdfoundationtoday-openbsd5.4? . Ken On 2 February 2014 12:10, Adam Jensen wrote: > On Sun, 2 Feb 2014 16:17:08 + (UTC) > na...@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) wrote: > >> At least it's consistent. FreeBSD's collection of >> -undermydesk- (gcc) >> -marcel- (gd

Re: The "unknown" in i386-unknown-openbsd5.4

2014-02-02 Thread Adam Jensen
On Sun, 2 Feb 2014 16:17:08 + (UTC) na...@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) wrote: > At least it's consistent. FreeBSD's collection of > -undermydesk- (gcc) > -marcel- (gdb) > -unknown- (clang, binutils, occasionally in ports) > -portbld- (most ports) > would never confuse anybody,

Re: The "unknown" in i386-unknown-openbsd5.4

2014-02-02 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Marc Espie wrote: > But there are things that actually use the "unknown". Most notorious being > gcc. Hmm... no? I'm too lazy to compile a gcc port on FreeBSD now, but as far as I can tell, it just uses... .if ${ARCH} == "amd64" CONFIGURE_TARGET= x86_64-portbld-${OPSYS:L}${OSREL} .else CO

Re: The "unknown" in i386-unknown-openbsd5.4

2014-02-02 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Adam Jensen wrote: > > FreeBSD is more playful: It has ${ARCH}-portbld-freebsd > > ${OSREL} in its ports tree and ... > > I wonder how the FreeBSD guys changed it "without breaking every > gnu-configure script in existence". They didn't. I think espie is simply mistaken. FreeBSD has a check w

Re: The "unknown" in i386-unknown-openbsd5.4

2014-02-02 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Feb 02, 2014 at 04:23:22AM +0100, Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado wrote: > On Sat, Feb 01, 2014 at 07:11:25PM -0500, Adam Jensen wrote: > > On Sat, 1 Feb 2014 00:52:31 + (UTC) > > na...@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) wrote: > > > > > FreeBSD is more playful: It has ${ARCH}-portbld-

Re: The "unknown" in i386-unknown-openbsd5.4

2014-02-01 Thread Adam Jensen
On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 00:23:18 -0500 Brad Smith wrote: > The way it is generated can be changed very easily and contrary > to the previous comment it doesn't break all autoconf scripts Will you share your technique? > that use the triplet. But there is no purpose for doing so. OMG > something I d

Re: The "unknown" in i386-unknown-openbsd5.4

2014-02-01 Thread Brad Smith
On 01/02/14 11:18 PM, Adam Jensen wrote: On Sat, 01 Feb 2014 22:06:47 -0500 Ted Unangst wrote: Well, that's true. If the admin cares about the value in X-Mailer, the admin should configure a better value. Patching the various occurrences of this string might be more cumbersome than changing

Re: The "unknown" in i386-unknown-openbsd5.4

2014-02-01 Thread Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado
On Sat, Feb 01, 2014 at 07:11:25PM -0500, Adam Jensen wrote: > On Sat, 1 Feb 2014 00:52:31 + (UTC) > na...@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) wrote: > > > FreeBSD is more playful: It has ${ARCH}-portbld-freebsd > > ${OSREL} in its ports tree and ... > > > > I wonder how the FreeBSD guys cha

Re: The "unknown" in i386-unknown-openbsd5.4

2014-02-01 Thread Adam Jensen
On Sat, 01 Feb 2014 22:06:47 -0500 Ted Unangst wrote: > Well, that's true. If the admin cares about the value in > X-Mailer, the admin should configure a better value. > Patching the various occurrences of this string might be more cumbersome than changing the way it's generated and used throug

Re: The "unknown" in i386-unknown-openbsd5.4

2014-02-01 Thread Ted Unangst
On Sat, Feb 01, 2014 at 19:11, Adam Jensen wrote: > It shows up in so many places, even my email headers: > > X-Mailer:Sylpheed 3.2.0 (GTK+ 2.24.20; i386-unknown-openbsd5.4) > > To the uninitiated masses, it might seem like the system was > sloppily configured or in some other way the admin was

Re: The "unknown" in i386-unknown-openbsd5.4

2014-02-01 Thread Adam Jensen
On Sat, 1 Feb 2014 00:52:31 + (UTC) na...@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) wrote: > FreeBSD is more playful: It has ${ARCH}-portbld-freebsd > ${OSREL} in its ports tree and ... > I wonder how the FreeBSD guys changed it "without breaking every gnu-configure script in existence". It shows

Re: The "unknown" in i386-unknown-openbsd5.4

2014-02-01 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 06:18:44PM -0500, Adam Jensen wrote: > I see the string "i386-unknown-openbsd5.4" in various places throughout > my system. What does the "unknown" part of this string refer to and is > there a canonical way to set it to something more meaningful? > > Thanks! Ah, but then

Re: The "unknown" in i386-unknown-openbsd5.4

2014-01-31 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Adam Jensen wrote: > I see the string "i386-unknown-openbsd5.4" in various places throughout > my system. What does the "unknown" part of this string refer to and is > there a canonical way to set it to something more meaningful? It is largely meaningless. Historically, it was used to distingui

Re: The "unknown" in i386-unknown-openbsd5.4

2014-01-31 Thread Ted Unangst
On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 18:18, Adam Jensen wrote: > I see the string "i386-unknown-openbsd5.4" in various places throughout > my system. What does the "unknown" part of this string refer to and is > there a canonical way to set it to something more meaningful? It means nothing. 900 years ago someb

The "unknown" in i386-unknown-openbsd5.4

2014-01-31 Thread Adam Jensen
I see the string "i386-unknown-openbsd5.4" in various places throughout my system. What does the "unknown" part of this string refer to and is there a canonical way to set it to something more meaningful? Thanks!