Re: assembly for x86
Hello, I ordered the Intel docs on 1st October, received them two hours ago (UPS). Thank you for the link :). Regards, Maxime DERCHE On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 03:37:51 -0400 Brynet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found this article to be exceptionally useful when using OpenBSD as a primary development platform: http://www.phiral.net/openbsdasm.htm Hope that helps, the first few paragraphs of it anyway... :) P.S: Both Intel and AMD have documentation available, they might be a better start: http://developer.amd.com/documentation/guides/Pages/default.aspx#manuals http://www.intel.com/products/processor/manuals/ If you follow the Order a printed copy link on the Intel page, you can get them free.. no shipping fees. -Brynet. -- Maxime DERCHE : maxime /at/ mouet-mouet.net | maxime.derche /at/ free.fr GnuPG public key ID : 0xDEF810D6 (fingerprint : D99F 3827 732C DD5D B472 D6EF C3FA 81F7 DEF8 10D6) http://www.mouet-mouet.net/maxime/blog/index.php
Re: [OT] was Re: assembly for x86
2008/10/5 ropers [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/9/23 ropers [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/9/23 guede [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ropers wrote: Lots of interesting stuff there: http://www.phiral.net/ Especially the last link on that page. I thought I'd never see that again, as it's vanished from the Web virtually everywhere else. ??? Hasn't vanished at all. Sorry, maybe I was mistaken. I seemed to recall that some really cool Fravia content got pulled from everywhere. Either the entire site got restored everywhere, or that particular content is still offline but apart from that the entire Fravia/Searchlores stuff remains available. It doesn't help that I don't remember anymore what that content was... Sorry for the noise. As it turns out, I was not entirely mistaken after all, and Wikipedia has some info of what I was referring to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fravia Fravia is a pseudonym/handle for a European cracker (his real name, according to his autobiography, is Fjalar Ravia) who is probably best known for his web archive of reverse engineering techniques and papers. Mirrors of the old web site (fravia.org) still exist (see, e.g., Internet Archive), though Fravia has publicly requested their removal in favor of his new web-searching-centric sites. However, I was not entirely right either, as it appears as if the Fravia mirror at phiral.net doesn't have the old reverse engineering goodies either. It goes without saying that if someone knows where this info can still be found, I would be more than grateful for any pointers. Answering to myself here, for the benefit of the archives: I was overeager with the Send button before; it turns out that Wikipedia still had a link to a mirror of the reverse engineering stuff: http://woodmann.com/fravia/
Re: [OT] was Re: assembly for x86
2008/9/23 ropers [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/9/23 guede [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ropers wrote: Lots of interesting stuff there: http://www.phiral.net/ Especially the last link on that page. I thought I'd never see that again, as it's vanished from the Web virtually everywhere else. ??? Hasn't vanished at all. Sorry, maybe I was mistaken. I seemed to recall that some really cool Fravia content got pulled from everywhere. Either the entire site got restored everywhere, or that particular content is still offline but apart from that the entire Fravia/Searchlores stuff remains available. It doesn't help that I don't remember anymore what that content was... Sorry for the noise. As it turns out, I was not entirely mistaken after all, and Wikipedia has some info of what I was referring to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fravia Fravia is a pseudonym/handle for a European cracker (his real name, according to his autobiography, is Fjalar Ravia) who is probably best known for his web archive of reverse engineering techniques and papers. Mirrors of the old web site (fravia.org) still exist (see, e.g., Internet Archive), though Fravia has publicly requested their removal in favor of his new web-searching-centric sites. However, I was not entirely right either, as it appears as if the Fravia mirror at phiral.net doesn't have the old reverse engineering goodies either. It goes without saying that if someone knows where this info can still be found, I would be more than grateful for any pointers. Thanks and regards, --ropers
Re: assembly for x86
Great book indeed! Thank You! 2008/9/23 Mic J [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.drpaulcarter.com/pcasm/ Gratis book. Uses nasm as assembler. and you can use yasm (BSD license) if you want. Mic
Re: assembly for x86
I found this article to be exceptionally useful when using OpenBSD as a primary development platform: http://www.phiral.net/openbsdasm.htm Hope that helps, the first few paragraphs of it anyway... :) P.S: Both Intel and AMD have documentation available, they might be a better start: http://developer.amd.com/documentation/guides/Pages/default.aspx#manuals http://www.intel.com/products/processor/manuals/ If you follow the Order a printed copy link on the Intel page, you can get them free.. no shipping fees. -Brynet.
Re: assembly for x86
Thank You! Althought i'm a total beginner with assembly, but these will come in handy when i'll get the picture. 2008/9/23 Brynet [EMAIL PROTECTED] I found this article to be exceptionally useful when using OpenBSD as a primary development platform: http://www.phiral.net/openbsdasm.htm Hope that helps, the first few paragraphs of it anyway... :) P.S: Both Intel and AMD have documentation available, they might be a better start: http://developer.amd.com/documentation/guides/Pages/default.aspx#manuals http://www.intel.com/products/processor/manuals/ If you follow the Order a printed copy link on the Intel page, you can get them free.. no shipping fees. -Brynet.
Re: assembly for x86
2008/9/23 Brynet [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I found this article to be exceptionally useful when using OpenBSD as a primary development platform: http://www.phiral.net/openbsdasm.htm Lots of interesting stuff there: http://www.phiral.net/ Especially the last link on that page. I thought I'd never see that again, as it's vanished from the Web virtually everywhere else. Thanks and regards, --ropers
Re: assembly for x86
Am 22.09.2008 um 13:45 schrieb Gabri Mati: Dear List, I'd like to study the assembly language of the x86 architecture. I've searched for books, but there are a lot of them. Could you please recommend me a good writer/book about this topic? Thank You! Google for 386INTEL.TXT and 387INTEL.TXT. These files are official documentation from Intel and the best on x86 assembly I've seen so far. Get some basic understanding about how a processor works and how you use a processor from the assembly level, then you are just fine with 386INTEL.TXT (if you are a good C programmer, you already should know enough to read 386INTEL.TXT). -- Jonathan [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature which had a name of PGP.sig]
Re: assembly for x86
ropers wrote: Lots of interesting stuff there: http://www.phiral.net/ Especially the last link on that page. I thought I'd never see that again, as it's vanished from the Web virtually everywhere else. ??? Hasn't vanished at all.
[OT] was Re: assembly for x86
2008/9/23 guede [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ropers wrote: Lots of interesting stuff there: http://www.phiral.net/ Especially the last link on that page. I thought I'd never see that again, as it's vanished from the Web virtually everywhere else. ??? Hasn't vanished at all. Sorry, maybe I was mistaken. I seemed to recall that some really cool Fravia content got pulled from everywhere. Either the entire site got restored everywhere, or that particular content is still offline but apart from that the entire Fravia/Searchlores stuff remains available. It doesn't help that I don't remember anymore what that content was... Sorry for the noise. --ropers
Re: assembly for x86
On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 19:23:25 +0200 Jonathan Schleifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 22.09.2008 um 13:45 schrieb Gabri Mati: Dear List, I'd like to study the assembly language of the x86 architecture. I've searched for books, but there are a lot of them. Could you please recommend me a good writer/book about this topic? Thank You! Google for 386INTEL.TXT and 387INTEL.TXT. These files are official documentation from Intel and the best on x86 assembly I've seen so far. Get some basic understanding about how a processor works and how you use a processor from the assembly level, then you are just fine with 386INTEL.TXT (if you are a good C programmer, you already should know enough to read 386INTEL.TXT). Hello, Are you talking about http://www.ragestorm.net/downloads/386intel.txt and http://www.ragestorm.net/downloads/387intel.txt ? I mean, are these the good ones ? Oh and, thanks everyone for the good doc that has been linked in this thread. I was looking for the way to get this Intel documentation at home, thank you very much :). Regards, Maxime DERCHE -- Jonathan [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature which had a name of PGP.sig] -- Maxime DERCHE : maxime /at/ mouet-mouet.net | maxime.derche /at/ free.fr GnuPG public key ID : 0xDEF810D6 (fingerprint : D99F 3827 732C DD5D B472 D6EF C3FA 81F7 DEF8 10D6) http://www.mouet-mouet.net/maxime/blog/index.php
assembly for x86
Dear List, I'd like to study the assembly language of the x86 architecture. I've searched for books, but there are a lot of them. Could you please recommend me a good writer/book about this topic? Thank You!
Re: assembly for x86
--- G??bri M??t?? [Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 01:45:30PM +0200]: --- Dear List, I'd like to study the assembly language of the x86 architecture. I've searched for books, but there are a lot of them. Could you please recommend me a good writer/book about this topic? i'm a beginner, but i picked up The Art of Assembly Language, a No Starch Press book by Randall Hyde. ISBN 1886411972. i'm sure there's a much longer list of book an assembly programmer should have at arm's reach, but this is the only one i'm using so far.
Re: assembly for x86
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Gabri Mati [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear List, I'd like to study the assembly language of the x86 architecture. I've searched for books, but there are a lot of them. Could you please recommend me a good writer/book about this topic? Thank You! You can ask or try to search on comp.lang.asm.x86, I think its a better place for your question. You can also read the comp.lang.asm faq : http://www.frontiernet.net/~fys/faq/index.htm -- Gallon sylvestre OpenBSD fan | Rathaxes Core Developper LSE researcher | kernel developer for adeneo http://devsyl.blogspot.com/ | www.rathaxes.org
Re: assembly for x86
Thank You! I've ordered this book. I like No Starch Press books anyway. 2008/9/22 jmc [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- G??bri M??t?? [Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 01:45:30PM +0200]: --- Dear List, I'd like to study the assembly language of the x86 architecture. I've searched for books, but there are a lot of them. Could you please recommend me a good writer/book about this topic? i'm a beginner, but i picked up The Art of Assembly Language, a No Starch Press book by Randall Hyde. ISBN 1886411972. i'm sure there's a much longer list of book an assembly programmer should have at arm's reach, but this is the only one i'm using so far.
Re: assembly for x86
http://www.drpaulcarter.com/pcasm/ Gratis book. Uses nasm as assembler. and you can use yasm (BSD license) if you want. Mic
