Re: Passage about licensing from OpenBSD documentation

2022-02-08 Thread deich...@placebonol.com
Paul Yep, that is definitely the authorative source. I've been using archive.org for a couple decades that I forget openbsd.org website uses CVS. 73 On February 8, 2022 9:11:56 AM MST, Paul de Weerd wrote: >On Tue, Feb 08, 2022 at 08:54:08AM -0700, deich...@placebonol.com wrote: >| Try

Re: Passage about licensing from OpenBSD documentation

2022-02-08 Thread Paul de Weerd
On Tue, Feb 08, 2022 at 08:54:08AM -0700, deich...@placebonol.com wrote: | Try archive.org for older versions of openbsd.org. Or just the CVS repository. The openbsd.org website is under revision control, there's 26 years of history available over at http://cvsweb.openbsd.org/www/ You

Re: Passage about licensing from OpenBSD documentation

2022-02-08 Thread deich...@placebonol.com
Try archive.org for older versions of openbsd.org. On February 8, 2022 8:39:46 AM MST, Ibsen S Ripsbusker wrote: >On Tue, Feb 8, 2022, at 15:25, Nick Holland wrote: >> Probably be one of these two pages, I think: >> >> https://www.openbsd.org/goals.html >> https://www.openbsd.org/policy.html >>

Re: Passage about licensing from OpenBSD documentation

2022-02-08 Thread Ibsen S Ripsbusker
On Tue, Feb 8, 2022, at 15:25, Nick Holland wrote: > Probably be one of these two pages, I think: > > https://www.openbsd.org/goals.html > https://www.openbsd.org/policy.html > > I call it the "Microsoft Question": which do you fear more? > 1) That MS uses your code and profits from your work >

Re: Passage about licensing from OpenBSD documentation

2022-02-08 Thread Nick Holland
On 2/6/22 11:57 PM, Ibsen S Ripsbusker wrote: My great and good friends, Like 20 years ago while trying to install OpenBSD for the first time I read a short passage in OpenBSD documentation that I really liked. Does anyone know where I can find it? The passage that said very directly that we

Passage about licensing from OpenBSD documentation

2022-02-06 Thread Ibsen S Ripsbusker
My great and good friends, Like 20 years ago while trying to install OpenBSD for the first time I read a short passage in OpenBSD documentation that I really liked. Does anyone know where I can find it? The passage that said very directly that we license OpenBSD permissively because we know our

Licensing question

2013-06-22 Thread William Orr
Hello, I'm a mail administrator for a student group at my alma mater, RIT. We're not particularly satisfied with our current greylisting software (gld), and the best alternative (hell, the best greylisting software, hands down) is spamd. Unfortunately, none of the other sysadmins want to

Re: Licensing question

2013-06-22 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2013-06-22, William Orr w...@worrbase.com wrote: I currently have an untested (I'm going to spin up some EC2 instances to do testing this weekend) start on a port to linux on GitHub: https://github.com/worr/spamd So my questions: Is there anything else I need to do to make sure that I'm

Licensing OpenBSD artwork as CC-BY-SA?

2013-02-21 Thread Martin Schröder
Hi, I'm thinking about creating a community ad for http://meta.unix.stackexchange.com/q/1105/9454 for OpenBSD with an image from http://www.openbsd.org/art2.html One of the conditions is that the images must be uploaded to their network (via imgur), which requires a licensing as CC-BY-SA

Re: Licensing OpenBSD artwork as CC-BY-SA?

2013-02-21 Thread Theo de Raadt
://meta.unix.stackexchange.com/q/1105/9454 for OpenBSD with an image from http://www.openbsd.org/art2.html One of the conditions is that the images must be uploaded to their network (via imgur), which requires a licensing as CC-BY-SA. This doesn't seem to be compatible with http://www.openbsd.org/art2.html Most

Re: Licensing OpenBSD artwork as CC-BY-SA?

2013-02-21 Thread Martin Schröder
2013/2/22 Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org: It is not allowed. I thought the same. So https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Openbsd2.svg is really a violation? Best Martin

Re: Licensing

2013-01-08 Thread Peter Hessler
On 2013 Jan 07 (Mon) at 23:50:04 -0800 (-0800), noah pugsley wrote: So what? This is radically off-topic, please don't bring this kind of crap to misc@. -- You may be sure that when a man begins to call himself a realist, he is preparing to do something he is secretly ashamed of doing.

bcrypt.c licensing

2011-06-21 Thread Aaron Patterson
Hi! I have a question about the license for bcrypt.c. The OpenBSD policy page (http://www.openbsd.org/policy.html) says: Berkeley rescinded the 3rd term (the advertising term) on 22 July 1999. Verbatim copies of the Berkeley license in the OpenBSD tree have that term removed. In addition,

Re: bcrypt.c licensing

2011-06-21 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 09:23:13AM -0700, Aaron Patterson wrote: Hi! I have a question about the license for bcrypt.c. The OpenBSD policy page (http://www.openbsd.org/policy.html) says: Berkeley rescinded the 3rd term (the advertising term) on 22 July 1999. Verbatim copies of the

Re: bcrypt.c licensing

2011-06-21 Thread Aaron Patterson
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 06:28:21PM +0200, Otto Moerbeek wrote: On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 09:23:13AM -0700, Aaron Patterson wrote: Hi! I have a question about the license for bcrypt.c. The OpenBSD policy page (http://www.openbsd.org/policy.html) says: Berkeley rescinded the 3rd term

Re: bcrypt.c licensing

2011-06-21 Thread Theo de Raadt
I have a question about the license for bcrypt.c. The OpenBSD policy page (http://www.openbsd.org/policy.html) says: Berkeley rescinded the 3rd term (the advertising term) on 22 July 1999. Verbatim copies of the Berkeley license in the OpenBSD tree have that term removed. That

Re: licensing

2010-04-16 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 11:57:40 -0600 Ted Roby ted.r...@gmail.com wrote: Now, did umplawny have the original right to put his restricted code into a project that was much more loosely licensed? If he did not, can I use his improperly licensed code (ie. does he forfeit his license by

Re: licensing

2010-04-16 Thread Ted Roby
licensing on everything, can I then ask for addition to the tree? Or should I just neatly post to ports@ and see what happens? Sure, you could have figured all this out on your own with enough study, but even if you did, you'd still need a good lawyer to look it over, as well as *still* need

Re: licensing

2010-04-16 Thread Thomas Pfaff
On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 11:52:55 -0600 Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: There's non-free software in the ports tree. Not in a real sense. The ports tree is a build infrastructure containing Makefiles, lists of files and where they should go, and (in a perfect world, continously

Re: licensing

2010-04-16 Thread J.C. Roberts
(or ask for) it to be added to the OpenBSD ports tree. What about a completely unrelated project? I do not understand your question. If I have clean licensing on everything, can I then ask for addition to the tree? Of course you can ask, and if the port is both well done and well tested

Re: licensing

2010-04-16 Thread Ted Roby
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 2:25 PM, J.C. Roberts list-...@designtools.orgwrote: If I have clean licensing on everything, can I then ask for addition to the tree? Of course you can ask, and if the port is both well done and well tested, then someone else might have enough interest to take

Re: licensing

2010-04-15 Thread Ted Roby
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Sean Kamath kam...@geekoids.com wrote: On Apr 14, 2010, at 8:57 PM, Ted Roby wrote: I got more help from the first poster who suggested using Circle Mud instead. The problem is, I was quite attached to to this modified Rom code, and perhaps committed the

Re: licensing

2010-04-15 Thread Chris Dukes
this original implementation, and I'm looking for others interested in re-implementing under less restrictive licensing. So let's drill through things. 1) Did you actually attempt to track down who might be using a umplawny email address at university of manitoba during the time frame? 2) Did you

Re: licensing

2010-04-15 Thread Ted Roby
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Chris Dukes pak...@pr.neotoma.org wrote: As for the personal attacks, you can print off this email, fold it until it's all corners, and shove it up your ass. Now that was far longer than your first one-liner smackdown. Good job.

Re: licensing

2010-04-15 Thread Ted Roby
mind being that lightning rod at all. Thank you for valid information which may resurrect my hopes. So how does that work with OpenBSD? How to I introduce code with shady licensing, and take all the brunt of it?

Re: licensing

2010-04-15 Thread Henning Brauer
that's what I'm interested in! I don't mind being that lightning rod at all. Thank you for valid information which may resurrect my hopes. So how does that work with OpenBSD? How to I introduce code with shady licensing, and take all the brunt of it? find all(!) copyright holders and have them

Re: licensing

2010-04-15 Thread Ted Unangst
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Ted Roby ted.r...@gmail.com wrote: So how does that work with OpenBSD? How to I introduce code with shady licensing, and take all the brunt of it? I don't suppose you've stopped to ask if the OpenBSD project is at all interested in whatever code you feel like

Re: licensing

2010-04-15 Thread Ted Roby
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Ted Unangst ted.unan...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Ted Roby ted.r...@gmail.com wrote: So how does that work with OpenBSD? How to I introduce code with shady licensing, and take all the brunt of it? I don't suppose you've stopped

Re: licensing

2010-04-15 Thread Thomas Pfaff
On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 10:41:35 -0600 Ted Roby ted.r...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't think OpenBSD was even interested in such licensing schemes in the Ports tree. There's non-free software in the ports tree.

Re: licensing

2010-04-15 Thread Theo de Raadt
On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 10:41:35 -0600 Ted Roby ted.r...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't think OpenBSD was even interested in such licensing schemes in the Ports tree. There's non-free software in the ports tree. Not in a real sense. The ports tree is a build infrastructure containing

Re: licensing

2010-04-15 Thread Johan Beisser
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Thomas Pfaff tpf...@tp76.info wrote: There's non-free software in the ports tree. Good thing it's in ports, then. Keeps that shady license where we can see it, and choose to suffer with it or not.

Re: licensing

2010-04-15 Thread Ted Roby
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.dewrote: find all(!) copyright holders and have them agree to a new license. or don't use that code. There are at least three projects involved here. 1. The Diku project 2. The Merc project 3. The Forsaken Lands project

licensing

2010-04-14 Thread Ted Roby
Hi list. I've spent some time porting one of my favorite dungeon games (a Rom 2.6 derivative). I've only begun this project, but have already converted 1700+ lines as such: strcat - strlcat strcpy - strlcpy sprintf - snprintf Much to my disappointment, I may have to rewrite large portions before

Re: licensing

2010-04-14 Thread bofh
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Ted Roby ted.r...@gmail.com wrote: Time for me to write OpenMUD? I've had fond memories of CircleMud, and I believe the maintainer is still around. -- http://www.glumbert.com/media/shift http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk This officer's men seem to

Re: licensing

2010-04-14 Thread Chris Dukes
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 09:21:53AM -0600, Ted Roby wrote: /* umpla...@cc.umanitoba.ca */ http://lmgtfy.com/?q=plawny+umanitoba I think you'll find a good idea of who to write care of which company. -- Chris Dukes

Re: licensing

2010-04-14 Thread Ted Roby
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Chris Dukes pak...@pr.neotoma.org wrote: On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 09:21:53AM -0600, Ted Roby wrote: /* umpla...@cc.umanitoba.ca */ http://lmgtfy.com/?q=plawny+umanitoba I think you'll find a good idea of who to write care of which company. -- Chris Dukes

Re: licensing

2010-04-14 Thread Sean Kamath
On Apr 14, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Ted Roby ted.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Chris Dukes pak...@pr.neotoma.org wrote: On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 09:21:53AM -0600, Ted Roby wrote: /* umpla...@cc.umanitoba.ca */ http://lmgtfy.com/?q=plawny+umanitoba I think you'll find a

Re: licensing

2010-04-14 Thread Ted Roby
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Sean Kamath kam...@geekoids.com wrote: On Apr 14, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Ted Roby ted.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Chris Dukes pak...@pr.neotoma.org wrote: On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 09:21:53AM -0600, Ted Roby wrote: /*

Re: licensing

2010-04-14 Thread Sean Kamath
On Apr 14, 2010, at 11:40 AM, Ted Roby ted.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Sean Kamath kam...@geekoids.com wrote: On Apr 14, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Ted Roby ted.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Chris Dukes pak...@pr.neotoma.org wrote: On Wed, Apr

Re: licensing

2010-04-14 Thread Ted Roby
reply to the entire list, even though you copied me personally... I don't care about finding the original sicauther/sic. He left behind licensing which forbids its application in Open Source. Please tell me what I should do with his permission? At best, he can let me host my own mud with his

Re: licensing

2010-04-14 Thread Sean Kamath
On Apr 14, 2010, at 12:02 PM, Ted Roby ted.r...@gmail.com wrote: Please tell me what I should do with his permission? At best, he can let me host my own mud with his code. At worst, he must rewrite his entire license in all the associated files. Now *that* is an interesting question. As the

Re: licensing

2010-04-14 Thread Chris
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Ted Roby ted.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Sean Kamath kam...@geekoids.com wrote: On Apr 14, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Ted Roby ted.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Chris Dukes pak...@pr.neotoma.org wrote: On Wed,

Re: licensing

2010-04-14 Thread Ted Roby
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Sean Kamath kam...@geekoids.com wrote: On Apr 14, 2010, at 12:02 PM, Ted Roby ted.r...@gmail.com wrote: Please tell me what I should do with his permission? At best, he can let me host my own mud with his code. At worst, he must rewrite his entire license in

Re: licensing

2010-04-14 Thread Ted Roby
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Chris amaneating...@gmail.com wrote: You're kidding us, right? You can't bother to google something so basic, you complain when someone points you in the right direction, make a quick detour for a spelling flame, then act like it'd be way more work to email

Re: licensing

2010-04-14 Thread Sean Kamath
On Apr 14, 2010, at 1:16 PM, Ted Roby ted.r...@gmail.com wrote: You blew off on this message board assuming I hadn't even googled, or found our friend Voytek Plawny. So? Inquiring minds want to know! *Is* he the guy at EA? And more importantly, is he still a dick? Sean

Re: licensing

2010-04-14 Thread Ted Roby
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Sean Kamath kam...@geekoids.com wrote: On Apr 14, 2010, at 1:16 PM, Ted Roby ted.r...@gmail.com wrote: You blew off on this message board assuming I hadn't even googled, or found our friend Voytek Plawny. So? Inquiring minds want to know! *Is* he the guy

Re: licensing

2010-04-14 Thread Paul M
On 15/04/2010, at 8:16 AM, Ted Roby wrote: I had googled all of this before my first post. In fact, I have been in contact with the current maintainers of the project. They have explicit permission, but that doesn't give me explicit permission. Ok, now I'm confused. You've been ranting for a

Re: licensing

2010-04-14 Thread Ted Roby
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Paul M l...@no-tek.com wrote: Please clarify what you want from this list. Peace, Love and Understanding. Yeah right.. I got more help from the first poster who suggested using Circle Mud instead. The problem is, I was quite attached to to this modified Rom

Re: licensing

2010-04-14 Thread Ted Roby
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:06 PM, Bryan bra...@gmail.com wrote: I thought nothing was zero, and NUL was the absence of nothing... Wouldn't NULL be the absence of everything, including numerical 0? Dropping the semantics I'd have to say this thread is NULL, and yet it is full of... well,

Re: licensing

2010-04-14 Thread Sean Kamath
On Apr 14, 2010, at 8:57 PM, Ted Roby wrote: I got more help from the first poster who suggested using Circle Mud instead. The problem is, I was quite attached to to this modified Rom code, and perhaps committed the error of getting my hopes up. You just weren't sicto to/sic clear in your

Re: Licensing Help

2008-10-12 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Benjamin Adams wrote on Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 02:21:31PM -0400: I'm looking for some clarification on Licensing. I'm looking to build a product using: OpenBSD MySQL Note that the MySQL client libraries are licenced under the GPL, not under the LGPL, with an explicit exception from the GPL

Licensing Help

2008-10-09 Thread Benjamin Adams
I'm looking for some clarification on Licensing. I'm looking to build a product using: OpenBSD Tomcat MySQL Java I know OpenBSD is do what you want. Anyone know what sun says for licensing? I'm looking to sell this product for profit which will help me give back to OpenBSD :) Anyone know what

Re: Licensing Help

2008-10-09 Thread Mike Swanson
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Benjamin Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for some clarification on Licensing. I'm looking to build a product using: OpenBSD Tomcat MySQL Java I know OpenBSD is do what you want. Anyone know what sun says for licensing? I'm looking to sell

Re: About C++ and licensing on OpenBSD

2007-05-01 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Tue, May 01, 2007 at 12:50:04AM -0400, Ernesto Bascon wrote: Hi everybody: I do not want to start a flamewar about licensing and hope some concrete answers to my questions (maybe I seem aggressive, I am not at all :) ). I want to develop an OpenBSD specific set of libraries

Microsoft Volume Licensing Acknowledgement (KMM8004423I3516L0KM)

2006-12-11 Thread MVLS Help
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Intel and Open Source Licensing w/r/t the OpenBSD Operating System

2006-10-02 Thread Jack J. Woehr
Dear Mr. Awad: As a recent purchaser of a brand-new Intel 965 motherboard with Core 2 Duo chip I am very pleased with the product, but disappointed with news from my favorite Open Source community, the OpenBSD community (http://www.openbsd.org) that Intel's licensing schemes fall short

Intel and Licensing

2006-10-02 Thread marrandy
copyrights which are more restrictive than the Berkeley copyright, or must relegate this material to a secondary status, i.e. OpenBSD as a whole is freely redistributable, but some optional components may not be. A number of applications have been culled from OpenBSD because of licensing issues

Re: Intel and Licensing

2006-10-02 Thread Ingo Schwarze
marrandy wrote on Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 11:56:44AM -0400: [...] The key component is that source should be open. If you can't provide source then API's have to be open In similar arguments, it might even be better to argue just the other way round: Please provide hardware and firmware

Future licensing trouble for Sendmail

2006-03-27 Thread Will H. Backman
No, this isn't another Sendmail needs to be replaced because there was a security hole email. I was following the thread on BugTraq regarding the Sendmail vulnerability, and saw this from Theo (Mar 24 2006): Luckily within a few months you will be able to tell Sendmail how to disclose their bugs

Re: Future licensing trouble for Sendmail

2006-03-27 Thread Theo de Raadt
Luckily within a few months you will be able to tell Sendmail how to disclose their bugs because their next version is going to come out with a much more commercial licence. Then you can pay for it, and then you can complain too. Is this a hint that there might be a license issues that