Re: Truncation Data Loss

2009-11-11 Thread David Vasek
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009, Nick Guenther wrote: [ext3 data= / FFS] journal ~= sync (ensures consistency of both metadata and file data) ordered ~= softdep (ensures consistency of metadata both internally and with file data) writeback ~= default (ensures consistency of metadata internally but real

Re: softraid crypto performance

2009-11-11 Thread Jan Stary
On Nov 10 23:36:42, Michael wrote: Hi, Am 10.11.2009 22:53, schrieb Jan Stary: Those 40 MB/s are limited due to the other systems read performance. However, softraid crypto seems (unreasonably ?) slow to me. Why do you even involve the network and some other system's read in

Re: softraid crypto performance

2009-11-11 Thread Jan Stary
On Nov 10 16:21:04, Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez wrote: On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 21:31 +0100, Michael wrote: Hi, when using softraid crypto with OpenBSD 4.6-current I never get more than ~10-11 MB/s disk writing speed even though the disk (WD Raptor 73 GB) itself, without crypto, can do way

umass0: Sometimes on ehci and sometimes on uhci

2009-11-11 Thread Rene Maroufi
Hi, i have a IBM Thinkpad T41 running OpenBSD 4.6 stable. The Thinkpad has 2 USB Ports and supports USB 2.0 (ehci). If i plug in a umass device, sometimes i get USB 2 speed, sometimes not. In my dmesg I can see that uhub0 is on usb0 thats on ehci, but uhub1 - uhub3 are uhci devices. My USB

Re: Truncation Data Loss

2009-11-11 Thread Janne Johansson
Nick Guenther wrote: So, as nicely summarized at http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Possible-data-loss-in-Ext4-740467.html , ext4 is kind of broken. It won't honor fsync and, as a /feature/, will wait up to two minutes to write out data, leading to lots of files emptied to the great

Re: Truncation Data Loss

2009-11-11 Thread Michal
Janne Johansson wrote: Nick Guenther wrote: So, as nicely summarized at http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Possible-data-loss-in-Ext4-740467.html , ext4 is kind of broken. It won't honor fsync and, as a /feature/, will wait up to two minutes to write out data, leading to lots of files

Re: Truncation Data Loss

2009-11-11 Thread Russell Howe
Michal wrote, sometime around 11/11/09 11:40: I know this is a bit off topic, but storage devices have battery's on RAID cards for a reason. If you are worried about read/writes etc when a system dies, there are measures you can take Probably even more OT, but... Although some (most?) RAID

Re: softraid crypto performance

2009-11-11 Thread Jacob Yocom-Piatt
Jan Stary wrote: On Nov 10 16:21:04, Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez wrote: On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 21:31 +0100, Michael wrote: Hi, when using softraid crypto with OpenBSD 4.6-current I never get more than ~10-11 MB/s disk writing speed even though the disk (WD Raptor 73 GB) itself, without

Re: softraid crypto performance

2009-11-11 Thread Marco Peereboom
Bonnie is not a realistic load, ever. Therefore the numberis are really not useful. If one insists on getting an idea of what crypto can run then do: dd if=/dev/rsd2c of=/dev/null bs=1m count=100 Where rsd2c is the raw crypto disk. At some point I will have another look to see if I can speed it

Re: Truncation Data Loss

2009-11-11 Thread Marco Peereboom
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 12:24:25PM +0100, Janne Johansson wrote: Nick Guenther wrote: So, as nicely summarized at http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Possible-data-loss-in-Ext4-740467.html , ext4 is kind of broken. It won't honor fsync and, as a /feature/, will wait up to two

Re: Truncation Data Loss

2009-11-11 Thread Marco Peereboom
EXT was and still is a joke. I remember reading about the 2 minute drain and I almost peed my pants. EXT3 had the nice feature of randomly stopping to boot after enough reboots on enough machines. Thankfully I no longer run any volume of this crap. On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:55:30AM +,

Re: softraid crypto performance

2009-11-11 Thread Jan Stary
when using softraid crypto with OpenBSD 4.6-current I never get more than ~10-11 MB/s disk writing speed even though the disk (WD Raptor 73 GB) itself, without crypto, can do way more. Uh...that sounds wear to me. I just copy 70 Gb from a USB SATA HD to the local partitions under

Re: 802.11 Monitor Mode in 4.6-Release

2009-11-11 Thread Tom Smith
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Nick Guenther kou...@gmail.com wrote: A snaplen of 0 on linux really means a snaplen of 2^16-1 which is good enough. I'd imagine tcpdump: invalid snaplen 0 was chosen because technically it's true, the linux thing is just a convenience hack that will bite

Re: softraid crypto performance

2009-11-11 Thread Jan Stary
On Nov 11 07:09:36, Marco Peereboom wrote: Bonnie is not a realistic load, ever. Therefore the numberis are really not useful. If one insists on getting an idea of what crypto can run then do: dd if=/dev/rsd2c of=/dev/null bs=1m count=100 Where rsd2c is the raw crypto disk. This is how my

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Re: Can't get carp to fail over all interfaces with pfsync

2009-11-11 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2009-11-10, Daniel Ouellet dan...@presscom.net wrote: FW1 hostname.if files are: $ cat /etc/hostname.carp0 inet 192.168.167.54 255.255.255.248 192.168.167.55 vhid 1 advskew 0 pass password $ cat /etc/hostname.carp1 inet 192.168.110.254 255.255.255.224 192.168.110.255 vhid 1 advskew

Re: which raid card? [was: aac raid status]

2009-11-11 Thread William Graeber
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 01:47, Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: You say MegaRAID 8X in response to someone saying mfi? Sorry - I was referring to ami(4) cards in response to general discussion about LSI cards. For clarification, a quick search revealed that some, if not all, mfi(4)

Re: softraid crypto performance

2009-11-11 Thread Robert
Warning, long post... This whole performance discussion made me curious, and since I had 2 identical SATA disks available I made some tests with softraid and crypto (dmesg at the end). summary (MB/sec): write readlayout 80 80 single disk / raw 68 80 single disk / file

ftpd, OpenBSD 4.5 memory behavior

2009-11-11 Thread MK
Hello all, recently I've noticed on my OpenBSD 4.5 Stable box strange memory behavior while downloading files from ftpd daemon. It seems ftpd is somehow allocates more and more memory. Memory is not freed until something else needs it. At least it is always freed after daily script runs. I've

Re: locking a softraid crypto vol

2009-11-11 Thread Nick Guenther
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us wrote: where sd3 is the softraid crypto volume. On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 07:38:00PM -0600, c l wrote: Is it possible to lock a softraid crypto volume without rebooting? It seems bioctl -d is what I want but I'm not sure.

Re: softraid crypto performance

2009-11-11 Thread Aaron Poffenberger
On Nov 10, 2009, at 2:31 PM, Michael wrote: Hi, when using softraid crypto with OpenBSD 4.6-current I never get more than ~10-11 MB/s disk writing speed even though the disk (WD Raptor 73 GB) itself, without crypto, can do way more. What I see during transfer in top/systat is a high

Re: softraid crypto performance

2009-11-11 Thread Marco Peereboom
You defeated read ahead with your RAID test and found out that kernel crypto is slow. Oh and you tested softdep pretty well too because that is what you were trying to measure, right? Lies, damn lies and benchmarks... On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 08:09:40PM +0100, Robert wrote: Warning, long

Re: locking a softraid crypto vol

2009-11-11 Thread Aaron Poffenberger
On Nov 11, 2009, at 2:27 PM, Nick Guenther wrote: On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us wrote: where sd3 is the softraid crypto volume. On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 07:38:00PM -0600, c l wrote: Is it possible to lock a softraid crypto volume without rebooting? It

Re: softraid crypto performance

2009-11-11 Thread Robert
*) Softdep was put there on purpose, because this is most probably how the mount will be done by most of the users. *) My intention was simply to find out how those combinations will work on my system in the way that I would (from my knowledge so far) configure them - any advice on how to

E17 wiki page for OpenBSD

2009-11-11 Thread sda
hello, http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/OpenBSD welcome to correct, improve, advise, etc... regards, sda [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature]

Re: softraid crypto performance

2009-11-11 Thread Kenneth R Westerback
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 02:30:25PM -0600, Marco Peereboom wrote: You defeated read ahead with your RAID test and found out that kernel crypto is slow. Oh and you tested softdep pretty well too because that is what you were trying to measure, right? Lies, damn lies and benchmarks... Lies,

Sun Fire x2270 experience

2009-11-11 Thread Predrag Punosevac
Dear All, I was wondering if I could get some input on Sun Fire x2270. Our department is getting ready to purchase one for running statistical software R. Application will be provided via local network to our faculty and students. Thank You, Predrag Punosevac P.S. I really gave a hard push

OpenBSD platform of choice?

2009-11-11 Thread Daniel Gracia Garallar
Hi there! Now that I have to change my little server farm and I'm able to choose a new platform, I would like to choose wisely. It's a matter of fact that Intel x86 is bogus-prone, and after experimenting a lot with OpenBSD and listening about the different archs since several years ago, I

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Re: 802.11 Monitor Mode in 4.6-Release

2009-11-11 Thread Tom Smith
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Nick Guenther kou...@gmail.com wrote: Well if you were using monitor mode on some other card I would say it's because as a 'security measure' the firmware is blocking it, but it's a Ralink and they're the open ones so hmm. Sorry, I think I'm spent. I

Re: Truncation Data Loss

2009-11-11 Thread Nick Guenther
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 3:35 AM, David Vasek va...@fido.cz wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009, Nick Guenther wrote: [ext3 data= / FFS] journal ~= sync (ensures consistency of both metadata and file data) ordered ~= softdep (ensures consistency of metadata both internally and with file data)

Re: Truncation Data Loss

2009-11-11 Thread Nick Guenther
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Ted Unangst ted.unan...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:50 PM, Nick Guenther kou...@gmail.com wrote: See, since it seems that BSD doesn't have this file-data consistency guarantee, are Linus' worries about ext4's potential data loss just being

Re: Truncation Data Loss

2009-11-11 Thread David Vasek
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009, Nick Guenther wrote: On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 3:35 AM, David Vasek va...@fido.cz wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009, Nick Guenther wrote: [ext3 data= / FFS] journal ~= sync (ensures consistency of both metadata and file data) ordered ~= softdep (ensures consistency of metadata

Re: 802.11 Monitor Mode in 4.6-Release

2009-11-11 Thread Tom Smith
After this, no more noise from me. Perhaps this will help some other old fool some day: 1. Get an 802.11 wireless adapter that supports monitor mode. If you don't know what adapter to use, from a -current OpenBSD release run 'apropos wireless' and then man the chipsets. 2. To capture 802.11

Re: Truncation Data Loss

2009-11-11 Thread Theo de Raadt
Okay, one last question: one of the original softdep papers (http://www.usenix.org/publications/library/proceedings/bsdcon02/mckusick.htm l) is all about how softdeps can avoid fsck, but I just set softdep on all my filesystems, rebooted (to start fresh), wrote some files, wrote some more

Re: Truncation Data Loss

2009-11-11 Thread Ted Unangst
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Nick Guenther kou...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, one last question: one of the original softdep papers (http://www.usenix.org/publications/library/proceedings/bsdcon02/mckusick.html) is all about how softdeps can avoid fsck, but I just set softdep on all my

Re: Source for LENOVO parts?

2009-11-11 Thread Frank Bax
Thanks!! Excellent service. fan replaced and all is good now. Home renovations mean that my laptop was subjected to some concrete dust a few months ago; so I'm thinking my fan failure might have had something to do with that. Eric Elena wrote: The same thing happened to me 2 months ago.

Translators needed for upcoming ComixWall 4.6

2009-11-11 Thread Soner Tari
I am planning to release ComixWall 4.6 in December. (Please see further below for a summary of upcoming release announcement.) I am happy to announce that I have frozen the web user interface strings as one of the final few stages of the release process. The ComixWall ISG project needs your help.

IP Aliasing with DHCP

2009-11-11 Thread Hugo Osvaldo Barrera
I want to set up an HTTPS server which serves two domains. I know this is pretty much impossible with one IP, due to how SSL works. However, my ISP throws me an Ethernet cable, and I can use as many IPs as I want. - If I connect a switch to that cable, and 5 PCs, they each get 5 REAL internet

POOR support for layer 7 security in OBSD. Options or another OS?

2009-11-11 Thread David Taveras
I love OpenBSD focused security in many areas, and in the ones not included in base there are always options in packages. However specifically speaking about the options to complement as an application level firewall seems it is truly underestimated the way I see it: What is the option for a web

tcpdump dhcp6 interpretation out of date

2009-11-11 Thread Philip Higgins
I noticed while doing some debugging on an ipv6 connection that the included version of tcpdump uses an old draft version of dhcp6 for its output. src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/dhcp6.h was last edited almost 10 years, and is based on draft 14. For a while I was a little confused why wide-dhcpdc was

Re: POOR support for layer 7 security in OBSD. Options or another OS?

2009-11-11 Thread Jason Dixon
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 09:25:45PM -0600, David Taveras wrote: I love OpenBSD focused security in many areas, and in the ones not included in base there are always options in packages. However specifically speaking about the options to complement as an application level firewall seems it is

Re: POOR support for layer 7 security in OBSD. Options or another OS?

2009-11-11 Thread Theo de Raadt
Indeed, mod_security is only currently available for apache-1.3. But I think the lack of modsecurity-2.x is only because nobody has stepped up to complete the port, not because of any technical hurdles. As i said, modsecurity 2 is only compatible with apache2, otherwise I would be able

Re: Problems with 4.5 as a KVM guest

2009-11-11 Thread Philip Higgins
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Garry Dolley gdol...@arpnetworks.com wrote: On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 09:42:58AM +0100, Michiel van Baak wrote: I tried to upgrade my 4.5 and got the same. Sorry, have no way around it for the moment. I reverted the vm back to it's previous working state. This

Re: POOR support for layer 7 security in OBSD. Options or another OS?

2009-11-11 Thread David Taveras
Hi, On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 9:38 PM, Jason Dixon ja...@dixongroup.net wrote: There are plenty of L7 tools in OpenBSD base and ports/packages to help you reach your goals. It's up to you to deploy and configure them properly for your environment. Just a few off the top of my head: relayd(8)

amavisd-new broken?

2009-11-11 Thread Fernando Quintero
Hi all, Im trying to install amavisd-new on release 4.6 / 386, and i got an error with the freeze-2.5p0 package. Im looking for it in the packages list on the openbsd's mirrors and can't find it. Some idea? # uname -a OpenBSD correo.ejemplo.com 4.6 GENERIC#58 i386 # # pkg_add -F conflicts -v

Re: POOR support for layer 7 security in OBSD. Options or another OS?

2009-11-11 Thread David Taveras
Hello Theo, On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 10:15 PM, Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: Well perhaps more people should have gotten upset when Apache started adding contract law language to their copyright notice. Yes, I understand the fundamentals of this decision which in turn gives us an

Re: IP Aliasing with DHCP

2009-11-11 Thread Matthew Dempsky
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Hugo Osvaldo Barrera h...@osvaldobarrera.com.ar wrote: I'v already seen the alias option for ifconfig, however, it always refers to static IPs, and I've found no reference to this being possible with dynamic IPs. Is this possible? A single interface, with TWO

Re: IP Aliasing with DHCP

2009-11-11 Thread Theo de Raadt
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Hugo Osvaldo Barrera h...@osvaldobarrera.com.ar wrote: I'v already seen the alias option for ifconfig, however, it always refers to static IPs, and I've found no reference to this being possible with dynamic IPs. Is this possible? A single interface, with