Re: Is fdisk, disklabel and newfs enough to reset an SSD

2013-05-14 Thread Christer Solskogen
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Clint Pachl pa...@ecentryx.com wrote: Would dd'ing to the drive all 1s then all 0s be effective? Yes, and a complete waste of time. 'atactl drive secerase' will do the job for you. hdparm in linux has a similar command. But dd-ing twice is just idiotic. If

Re: who is using obsd

2013-05-14 Thread Tomas Bodzar
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 11:12 PM, Pau vim.u...@gmail.com wrote: on his/her laptop as *only* OS and uses it daily for scientific work? please contact me off list. Thanks I'm not sure if there will be some official readings available (you can try BSDmag and similar resources), but it's

Re: who is using obsd

2013-05-14 Thread Zé Loff
On 13/05/2013, at 22:12, Pau vim.u...@gmail.com wrote: on his/her laptop as *only* OS and uses it daily for scientific work? please contact me off list. Thanks Doing statistical consulting for the pharma industry using 99% OpenBSD. Basic toolkit is LaTeX+R, both edited with vim, and

Re: who is using obsd

2013-05-14 Thread Francois Pussault
I'm not using for scientific work but for all daily, as servers but also as workstation, graphical station sometimes only for scientific work like calculations of astronomical trajectories...that's all. From: Zé Loff zel...@zeloff.org Sent: Tue May

Re: xenocara build failure

2013-05-14 Thread Maurice Janssen
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 09:15:17PM -0700, Marco S Hyman wrote: This is probably something stupid I'm doing, but I can't see it right this second. Trying to build xenocara from sources pulled from anon...@anoncvs3.usa.openbsd.org:/cvs as of about 60 minutes before sending this email message gives

out-of-order TCP

2013-05-14 Thread Stuart Henderson
Anyone have any ideas about how to improve TCP performance with huge numbers of out-of-order packets? 62653661 packets received 25373283 acks (for 43239433893 bytes) 2225419 duplicate acks 20139430 packets (21139432159 bytes) received

Migrate Root Partition to another disk

2013-05-14 Thread Adrien
Hi, I have added a second hard drive in my virtual machine, as my root partition is full. My idea was to add a new disk to the system, then migrate the root partition to the new disk. What I did so far : - In recovery, add the second hard drive, fdisk to initialize it, then disklabel to add a

Re: Migrate Root Partition to another disk

2013-05-14 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 11:08:49AM +0200, Adrien wrote: Hi, I have added a second hard drive in my virtual machine, as my root partition is full. My idea was to add a new disk to the system, then migrate the root partition to the new disk. What I did so far : - In recovery, add the

Re: who is using obsd

2013-05-14 Thread Stefan Wollny
Gesendet: Dienstag, 14. Mai 2013 um 08:31 Uhr Von: Tomas Bodzar tomas.bod...@gmail.com on his/her laptop as *only* OS and uses it daily for scientific work? please contact me off list. Thanks I'm not sure if there will be some official readings available (you can try BSDmag and similar

Re: Re : Tux cups

2013-05-14 Thread James Griffin
Tue 14.May'13 at 9:04:27 +0930, Brett Lymn On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 11:58:08AM +0100, James Griffin wrote: I just use the base vi(1) and then fmt(1) to format the text. Same for mail(1) if use the command to write in an external editor. Why not:

Re: who is using obsd

2013-05-14 Thread Mark Duller
On 14/05/2013 10:15, Stefan Wollny wrote: Gesendet: Dienstag, 14. Mai 2013 um 08:31 Uhr Von: Tomas Bodzar tomas.bod...@gmail.com on his/her laptop as *only* OS and uses it daily for scientific work? please contact me off list. Thanks I'm not sure if there will be some official readings

Re: who is using obsd

2013-05-14 Thread Dilyan Berkovski
Hi All, usage of an OS for desktop purposes is quite a broad term. Few cases for obsd not suitable as desktop: - At home, the WAF (Wife Acceptance Factor) for obsd on desktop is negative due lack of skype, and flash player. - At work, need for virtual machines on laptop is a must, not very well

Re: who is using obsd

2013-05-14 Thread Jiri B
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 11:18:07AM +0100, Mark Duller wrote: Unless s.o. has to use some proprietary software that is tighly linked to internals of an other OS there is no technical reason to use any other OS as a basis for a desktop system except for resume from suspend not working and

Re: Migrate Root Partition to another disk

2013-05-14 Thread Adrien
Thanks. I have mounted my new hard drive to /mnt. Then I ran : /usr/mdec/installboot -v /mnt/boot /usr/mdec/biosboot sd2 Telling me that /boot will be written at sector 64. But I'm still booting with my old hdd :( Tried to enter boot hd1k:/bsd at boot prompt but it's telling me that no such

Re: who is using obsd

2013-05-14 Thread Stefan Wollny
My impression is that most people who pretend that OpenBSD is not suited as a desktop system are either ingnorant or just outright lazy: - Ignorant on the fine work the developers and countless porters did and/or - lazy to read the documentation (or if of non-english mothertongue: too lazy to

Re: Migrate Root Partition to another disk

2013-05-14 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 01:06:27PM +0200, Adrien wrote: Thanks. I have mounted my new hard drive to /mnt. You don't mount hard drives, you mount partititons. Tell us exactly what you did and show command output of fdisk and disklabel. Without that info, we can only guess. -Otto

Re: who is using obsd

2013-05-14 Thread Stefan Wollny
Few cases for obsd not suitable as desktop: - At home, the WAF (Wife Acceptance Factor) for obsd on desktop is negative due lack of skype, and flash player. WAF: Good point! Hard to tackle ... :-) Skype: Valid argument - I have to agree that nowadays this is a requirement for a general-purpose

Re: who is using obsd

2013-05-14 Thread Salim Shaw
Scott, I'll be sure not to give up my day job at DUKE Medical Center. We have over 20,000 employees in this medical institution and we know what works for desktops and we know what works for enterprise server environments. Be sure to keep your job. On 05/13/2013 06:59 PM, Scott McEachern

Re: who is using obsd

2013-05-14 Thread Stefan Wollny
Skype: Valid argument - I have to agree that nowadays this is a requirement for a general-purpose desktop system (let's not discuss 'confidentiality' for now...) Sorry - I couldn't resist: The German IT-news site http://www.heise.de reported a few minutes ago that Microsoft reads along

Re: Is fdisk, disklabel and newfs enough to reset an SSD

2013-05-14 Thread Jan Stary
On May 13 21:04:00, pa...@ecentryx.com wrote: I would like to reinstall a fresh system on an SSD that contains an existing installation. From my limited knowledge of SSDs, I wonder if the drive controller may retain data from the old filesystem, unaware that there is a new filesystem put in

Re: who is using obsd

2013-05-14 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 08:34:27AM -0400, Salim Shaw wrote: Scott, I'll be sure not to give up my day job at DUKE Medical Center. We have over 20,000 employees in this medical institution and we know what works for desktops and we know what works for enterprise server environments.

Re: Migrate Root Partition to another disk

2013-05-14 Thread Adrien
OK, so : 1. Added new hdd within my virtual machine. 2. Started virtual machine, initialized the disk with fdisk : root@bsd:~# fdisk -i sd2 Do you wish to write new MBR and partition table? [n] y Writing MBR at offset 0. 3. Added new slice with Disklabel root@bsd:~# disklabel -E sd2 Label

Re: Migrate Root Partition to another disk

2013-05-14 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 03:52:03PM +0200, Adrien wrote: OK, so : 1. Added new hdd within my virtual machine. 2. Started virtual machine, initialized the disk with fdisk : root@bsd:~# fdisk -i sd2 Do you wish to write new MBR and partition table? [n] y Writing MBR at offset 0. 3.

Re: who is using obsd

2013-05-14 Thread Salim Shaw
I agree with your practicalities. We as IT professionals have to be careful when thrashing people. You never know who you're impacting and I personally would love to see OpenBSD take over the dominance of Cisco. I hate closed source with a vengeance, unfortunately we have to support it due to

odd choices for pkg_add (-i)

2013-05-14 Thread Janne Johansson
I usually add a bunch of packages in a row, and when it wants me to interact, I don't understand why the packages act differently: pkg_add subversion mtr arping rsync Ambiguous: choose dependency for subversion-1.7.8: a 0: apr-util-1.4.1p0 1: apr-util-1.4.1p0-ldap Your choice: 0

Re: who is using obsd

2013-05-14 Thread Mark Duller
On 14/05/2013 12:09, Stefan Wollny wrote: My impression is that most people who pretend that OpenBSD is not suited as a desktop system are either ingnorant or just outright lazy: - Ignorant on the fine work the developers and countless porters did and/or - lazy to read the documentation (or

Re: Migrate Root Partition to another disk

2013-05-14 Thread Adrien
I'm really ashamed about that, I told it the wrong diskMy bad All is working correctly now, a big thanks for your hints. Here the final steps I did, for anyone else who might be interested : - I forgot to edit my /etc/fstab before rebooting. So my system was mounted as read-only,

Re: who is using obsd

2013-05-14 Thread David Coppa
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Mark Duller mark.dul...@it.ox.ac.uk wrote: The OP was talking about laptops... Ideally one would buy a laptop that works well with OpenBSD, but sometimes choice is limited due to workplace requirements etc. For a desktop computer I totally agree. I wouldn't

Re: odd choices for pkg_add (-i)

2013-05-14 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 04:08:30PM +0200, Janne Johansson wrote: I usually add a bunch of packages in a row, and when it wants me to interact, I don't understand why the packages act differently: pkg_add subversion mtr arping rsync Ambiguous: choose dependency for subversion-1.7.8: a

Re: who is using obsd

2013-05-14 Thread Francisco Valladolid H.
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez alv...@alvaromantilla.com wrote: 2013/5/13 Chris Cappuccio ch...@nmedia.net Salim Shaw [salims...@vfemail.net] wrote: OpenBSD is a server/router/network service OS, it's not designed for desktops. OpenBSD is the pre-eminent

Re: who is using obsd

2013-05-14 Thread Andres Genovez
2013/5/14 Tomas Bodzar tomas.bod...@gmail.com On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 11:12 PM, Pau vim.u...@gmail.com wrote: on his/her laptop as *only* OS and uses it daily for scientific work? please contact me off list. Thanks I'm not sure if there will be some official readings available (you can

Re: who is using obsd

2013-05-14 Thread Zé Loff
The OP stated he was asking about laptops, and went to the trouble of sending a second email specifying he was talking about scientific research. I know this is misc@, but can we try and stay on-topic? And even if sometimes we learn something from 'what-do-you-use-it-for' discussions, I believe we

Re: who is using obsd

2013-05-14 Thread Predrag Punosevac
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 08:34:27AM -0400, Salim Shaw wrote: Scott, I'll be sure not to give up my day job at DUKE Medical Center. We have over 20,000 employees in this medical institution and we know what works for desktops and we know what works for enterprise server environments. As an

Re: Is fdisk, disklabel and newfs enough to reset an SSD

2013-05-14 Thread Ted Unangst
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 15:01, Jan Stary wrote: If so, how does one reset a used SSD for optimal operation with a fresh install? Just treat it as any other disk - which it is. Almost, but not entirely. On May 13 22:50:08, pa...@ecentryx.com wrote: Scott McEachern wrote: 2) Do you

A warm welcome to a gentoo hardened administrator?

2013-05-14 Thread Dārayavahush Khola
Hello Everyone, I am currently an avid gentoo user for various server related services (i.e., dns, web, exim, voip). And was looking towards transitioning to OpenBSD for the packet intensive services, namely: Router: OpenBGPD SIP Proxy: OpenSIPS Media Server: Asterisk/Free Switcfh And was

Re: xenocara build failure

2013-05-14 Thread Marco S Hyman
On May 13, 2013, at 11:54 PM, Maurice Janssen maur...@z74.net wrote: *** Error 1 in /usr/xenocara (Makefile:35 'build') Any hints as to what I'm doing wrong? Are you using make in parallel (-j) mode? If so, please try without -j I'm doing a simple make build (after a make bootstrap make

Re: xenocara build failure

2013-05-14 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 11:13:58AM -0700, Marco S Hyman wrote: On May 13, 2013, at 11:54 PM, Maurice Janssen maur...@z74.net wrote: *** Error 1 in /usr/xenocara (Makefile:35 'build') Any hints as to what I'm doing wrong? Are you using make in parallel (-j) mode? If so, please try

Re: xenocara build failure

2013-05-14 Thread Marco S Hyman
What is the revision of the file? Any sticky tags/dates? rev should be 1.1.1.2 You are on to something... cvs up -PAd should remove all tags, no? It didn't. When I moved t1load.h out of the way and re-updated I got a different version. Grumble... I think it's time to refresh all my sources

Asterisk Music on Hold

2013-05-14 Thread Peter Fraser
Does anyone know how to use CBC streaming music for music on hold for Asterisk. I tried the obvious in musiconhold.conf (after installing mpg123) [mp3stream] mode=custom format=SLIN directory=/usr/local/share/asterisk/moh-empty application=/usr/local/bin/mpg123 -q -r 8000 -f 8192 -s --mono

Re: Asterisk Music on Hold

2013-05-14 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Tue, 2013-05-14 at 19:04 +, Peter Fraser wrote: Does anyone know how to use CBC streaming music for music on hold for Asterisk. I tried the obvious in musiconhold.conf (after installing mpg123) [mp3stream] mode=custom format=SLIN directory=/usr/local/share/asterisk/moh-empty

Pause before power down

2013-05-14 Thread Aleksey Troynikov
Hi misc, I have 1.5 - 2 min. pause after syncing disk before power down by `shutdown -hp now` or `halt -p`. How can I watch what system doing at this time? I think that problem caused by some ACPI error. dmesg log: OpenBSD 5.3 (GENERIC.MP) #62: Tue Mar 12 18:21:20 MDT 2013

rtsol with IPv6 forwarding turned on

2013-05-14 Thread Mattias Lindgren
Hello, I'm using a OpenBSD 5.3 (release) machine as my router connecting to Comcast. Comcast provides native IPv6 access, however it does so a little bit differently than what is probably best practice. I use wide-dhcpv6-20080615p2 from ports to get an address on my outside interface, as

what cause this panic? replace NIC or HDD?

2013-05-14 Thread Sebastian Neuper
Hello, I can't figure out what causes this panic. Second time I see this. I think I have to replace the NIC or the disk. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks, Sebastian OpenBSD 5.3-current (GENERIC) #149: Tue May 7 12:44:38 MDT 2013

Re: xenocara build failure

2013-05-14 Thread Ted Unangst
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 11:38, Marco S Hyman wrote: What is the revision of the file? Any sticky tags/dates? rev should be 1.1.1.2 You are on to something... cvs up -PAd should remove all tags, no? It didn't. When I moved t1load.h out of the way and re-updated I got a different version.

Re: what cause this panic? replace NIC or HDD?

2013-05-14 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Sebastian Neuper [pha...@gmx.de] wrote: Hello, I can't figure out what causes this panic. Second time I see this. I think I have to replace the NIC or the disk. Can anyone point me in the right direction? uvm_fault(0xd6c73184, 0xb5cbd000, 0, 3) - e kernel: page fault trap, code=0

Re: xenocara build failure

2013-05-14 Thread Marco S Hyman
On May 14, 2013, at 1:56 PM, Ted Unangst t...@tedunangst.com wrote: You are on to something... cvs up -PAd should remove all tags, no? It didn't. Yes, it should. No, it doesn't. There's a bug somewhere in cvs. *nod* Trashing the source and fetching from scratch showed a few things stuck

Re: xenocara build failure

2013-05-14 Thread patrick keshishian
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Marco S Hyman m...@snafu.org wrote: On May 14, 2013, at 1:56 PM, Ted Unangst t...@tedunangst.com wrote: You are on to something... cvs up -PAd should remove all tags, no? It didn't. Yes, it should. No, it doesn't. There's a bug somewhere in cvs. *nod*

Re: xenocara build failure

2013-05-14 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 02:02:27PM -0700, Marco S Hyman wrote: On May 14, 2013, at 1:56 PM, Ted Unangst t...@tedunangst.com wrote: You are on to something... cvs up -PAd should remove all tags, no? It didn't. Yes, it should. No, it doesn't. There's a bug somewhere in cvs. *nod*

Re: xenocara build failure

2013-05-14 Thread Marco S Hyman
On May 14, 2013, at 2:07 PM, patrick keshishian pkesh...@gmail.com wrote: and none of those files were locally modified? Do you have the output of cvs up -PAd in regard to those specific files? There was no output. I have exactly one modified file in my xenocara tree. It's not in the lib

Re: rtsol with IPv6 forwarding turned on

2013-05-14 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2013-05-14, Mattias Lindgren mlindg...@runelind.net wrote: Hello, I'm using a OpenBSD 5.3 (release) machine as my router connecting to Comcast. Comcast provides native IPv6 access, however it does so a little bit differently than what is probably best practice. I use

Re: xenocara build failure

2013-05-14 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2013-05-14, Marco S Hyman m...@snafu.org wrote: What is the revision of the file? Any sticky tags/dates? rev should be 1.1.1.2 You are on to something... cvs up -PAd should remove all tags, no? It didn't. I have significantly fewer problems if I explicitly set the root on the command

Re: remote management

2013-05-14 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2013-05-13, Tony Berth tonybe...@googlemail.com wrote: Dear Group, I would like to know what kind of environment you use for remote management of one or more openbsd servers. serial console servers and remote controllable power bars. Which KVM over IP solution would you recomend. I

Re: rtsol with IPv6 forwarding turned on

2013-05-14 Thread Johan Beisser
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.org wrote: On 2013-05-14, Mattias Lindgren mlindg...@runelind.net wrote: Hello, I'm using a OpenBSD 5.3 (release) machine as my router connecting to Comcast. Comcast provides native IPv6 access, however it does so a little

Re: remote management

2013-05-14 Thread Tyler Morgan
On 5/14/2013 3:23 PM, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2013-05-13, Tony Berth tonybe...@googlemail.com wrote: Dear Group, I would like to know what kind of environment you use for remote management of one or more openbsd servers. N.B. shared IPMI/LAN ports generally do *not* work on OpenBSD

Re: xenocara build failure

2013-05-14 Thread patrick keshishian
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Marco S Hyman m...@snafu.org wrote: On May 14, 2013, at 2:07 PM, patrick keshishian pkesh...@gmail.com wrote: and none of those files were locally modified? Do you have the output of cvs up -PAd in regard to those specific files? There was no output. I have

Re: NPPPD with intermediate LTS

2013-05-14 Thread YASUOKA Masahiko
Hi, On Mon, 13 May 2013 15:28:38 +0100 Joe Holden li...@rewt.org.uk wrote: YASUOKA Masahiko wrote: On Wed, 08 May 2013 12:32:16 +0100 Joe Holden li...@rewt.org.uk wrote: YASUOKA Masahiko wrote: On Tue, 07 May 2013 22:38:46 +0100 Joe Holden li...@rewt.org.uk wrote: 2013-05-07 22:29:03:INFO:

Re: remote management

2013-05-14 Thread Devin Reade
--On Monday, May 13, 2013 09:24:13 PM +0200 Tony Berth tonybe...@googlemail.com wrote: I would like to know what kind of environment you use for remote management of one or more openbsd servers. Which KVM over IP solution would you recomend. For OpenBSD I usually try to have hardware with a

Re: NPPPD with intermediate LTS

2013-05-14 Thread Joe Holden
YASUOKA Masahiko wrote: Hi, On Mon, 13 May 2013 15:28:38 +0100 Joe Holden li...@rewt.org.uk wrote: YASUOKA Masahiko wrote: On Wed, 08 May 2013 12:32:16 +0100 Joe Holden li...@rewt.org.uk wrote: YASUOKA Masahiko wrote: On Tue, 07 May 2013 22:38:46 +0100 Joe Holden li...@rewt.org.uk wrote: