Re: Wine for OpenBSD?
Le 11/04/2020 à 14:25, Peter Nicolai Mathias Hansteen a écrit 11. apr. 2020 kl. 12:15 skrev Nikita Stepanov : Wine for OpenBSD? Oh, OpenBSD goes well with most kinds of wine, just don’t overdo it. Same with beer, liquors as always. All the best, — Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.bsdly.net/ http://www.nuug.no/ "Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic" delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds. Bonjour, While my ThinkPad supported wine quite well, OpenBSD unfortunately collapsed...:-D I asked for help about a week ago, but nobody bothered answering, not even with the common 'do your homework' comment. I managed to solve the problem myself without reinstallation and everything is fine. I am not really a newbie, as I started using computers about 45 years ago (at the university of your town, Peter). I have been working for IBM and DEC and should probably not need to ask for help, but I am getting older (approaching 70) and I have forgotten certain Unix mechanisms. Since the ongoing corporate takeover of GNU+Linux, with all imaginable and disastrous consequences, I am very thankful for having OpenBSD and being able to use it. I will avoid spilling Wine on laptops in the future, crossing my fingers and hoping for OpenBSD to last as long as I live... Cheers, Oddmund
Re: Wine for OpenBSD?
On Sun, 12 Apr 2020 at 08:24, slackwaree wrote: > > You don't want wine anyway. That is the shining example of badly written > software which sucked 15 years ago the same way it does today. T Provided Wine is now broken on most modern OSes that only ship with 64-bit binaries, there are tons of reasons why Wine is still relevant. There are gazillions of abandonware (badly) written for old versions of Windows (Win 3.* up to XP) that don't even run properly on Windows 10 but run beautifully on Wine. I have to thank Wine for getting my amateur licence because I had to run a multiple question trainer written circa 2006. Not to mention countless old electrical/electronic software that nobody is bothered porting to 64-bit *nix. -- Ottavio Caruso
Re: Wine for OpenBSD?
On Sun, 12 Apr 2020 07:24:09 + slackwaree wrote: > You don't want wine anyway. That is the shining example of badly written > software which sucked 15 years ago the same way it does today. They tried to > make it better with cedega, crossover office and what not and failed > miserably. All you could get out of it is to run basic apps like notepad or > calc even those with tons of bugs like borders, frames missing, broken fonts, > crashes etc. They claimed it can run game X,Y,Z but who cares about it when > Windows can run all games perfectly. This is ain't the 90's man everyone can > afford to have 2-3 or more PCs at home and with all these virtualization > supports like vmware, virtualbox around which just runs perfectly windows > applications in windows I even ask the question why is wine still exist, > probably it's someones pet project who don't want to let it go... > > > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On Saturday, April 11, 2020 12:15 PM, Nikita Stepanov > wrote: > > > Wine for OpenBSD? > > > All you could get out of it is to run basic apps like notepad or calc even > those with tons of bugs like borders, frames missing, broken fonts, crashes > etc. I used to have FreeBSD on my old office desktop till 2018, WINE was the only way to run MT4 [1] on it. MT4 worked flawlessly with WINE, no frames missing, no broken fonts, not even one crash for few years... > This is ain't the 90's man everyone can afford to have 2-3 or more PCs at > home But sometimes you have to be outside the home. [1] https://www.metatrader4.com/ Cheers! -- Radek
Re: Wine for OpenBSD?
On April 12, 2020 10:24:09 AM GMT+03:00, slackwaree wrote: >You don't want wine anyway. That is the shining example of badly >written software which sucked 15 years ago the same way it does today. >They tried to make it better with cedega, crossover office and what not >and failed miserably. All you could get out of it is to run basic apps >like notepad or calc even those with tons of bugs like borders, frames >missing, broken fonts, crashes etc. They claimed it can run game X,Y,Z >but who cares about it when Windows can run all games perfectly. This >is ain't the 90's man everyone can afford to have 2-3 or more PCs at >home and with all these virtualization supports like vmware, virtualbox >around which just runs perfectly windows applications in windows I even >ask the question why is wine still exist, probably it's someones pet >project who don't want to let it go... > > > >‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ >On Saturday, April 11, 2020 12:15 PM, Nikita Stepanov > wrote: > >> Wine for OpenBSD? Nah... Some people (like me) doesn't want to have windows at all. Sadly, karma is a b**ch and now I got a Win VM :) Yet, you won't need windows just to run a single app occasionally. I don't claim that wine is great, but it is useful . For me porting WINE to the BSD family is not worth it and utterly useless. On the other side ZFS is a more reasonable approach and if anyone asks - I think that openBSD can securely host VMs and in such use - ZFS or LVM can be quite useful. Best Regards, Strahil Nikolov
Re: Wine for OpenBSD?
You don't want wine anyway. That is the shining example of badly written software which sucked 15 years ago the same way it does today. They tried to make it better with cedega, crossover office and what not and failed miserably. All you could get out of it is to run basic apps like notepad or calc even those with tons of bugs like borders, frames missing, broken fonts, crashes etc. They claimed it can run game X,Y,Z but who cares about it when Windows can run all games perfectly. This is ain't the 90's man everyone can afford to have 2-3 or more PCs at home and with all these virtualization supports like vmware, virtualbox around which just runs perfectly windows applications in windows I even ask the question why is wine still exist, probably it's someones pet project who don't want to let it go... ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Saturday, April 11, 2020 12:15 PM, Nikita Stepanov wrote: > Wine for OpenBSD?
Re: Wine for OpenBSD?
On 2020-04-11, Nikita Stepanov wrote: > Wine for OpenBSD? At hackathons, we typically ask the French developers to pick out a wine from the menu, but they are pretty reluctant to take on this responsibility. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber na...@mips.inka.de
Re: Wine for OpenBSD?
wooosh wine is not there on openbsd its not going to be there on openbsd reasons are too long for me to write this early in the morning, plz google-fu them On 4/11/20 8:32 AM, Nikita Stepanov wrote: > I mean� > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_(software) > 18:30, 11 апреля 2020 г., Peter Nicolai Mathias Hansteen > : > > > > � 11. apr. 2020 kl. 12:15 skrev Nikita Stepanov > : > > � Wine for OpenBSD? > > > > Oh, OpenBSD goes well with most kinds of wine, just don’t overdo > it. Same with beer, liquors as always. > > All the best, > > — > Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation > team > http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.bsdly.net/ http://www.nuug.no/ > "Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic" > delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 > seconds. >
Re: Wine for OpenBSD?
I mean� https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_(software) 18:30, 11 апреля 2020 г., Peter Nicolai Mathias Hansteen : � 11. apr. 2020 kl. 12:15 skrev Nikita Stepanov : � Wine for OpenBSD? Oh, OpenBSD goes well with most kinds of wine, just don’t overdo it. Same with beer, liquors as always. All the best, — Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.bsdly.net/ http://www.nuug.no/ "Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic" delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.
Re: Wine for OpenBSD?
> 11. apr. 2020 kl. 12:15 skrev Nikita Stepanov : > > Wine for OpenBSD? > Oh, OpenBSD goes well with most kinds of wine, just don’t overdo it. Same with beer, liquors as always. All the best, — Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.bsdly.net/ http://www.nuug.no/ "Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic" delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds. signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP
Re: Wine for OpenBSD?
Am Sa., 11. Apr. 2020 um 13:19 Uhr schrieb Nikita Stepanov : > Wine for OpenBSD? Your patch?
Re: Wine under OpenBSD
On 05-02-11 18:58, Jean-Francois wrote: Hello, Is wine available for OpenBSD ? I could'nt find it in packages nor ports. Do a bit more looking... If not available, it might be possible to run it under linux emulate ? ports: emulators/wine http://openports.se/emulators/wine Robert
Re: Wine under OpenBSD
Jean-Francois jfsimon1...@gmail.com writes: Is wine available for OpenBSD ? I could'nt find it in packages nor ports. My ports tree (on -current) has /usr/ports/emulators/wine/, but the Makefile says at the top # XXX This port is not finished and does not work. So no package built for now. Then again, if you're in a position to help move it forward, I'm sure Ariane will appreciate a helping hand. - Peter -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.bsdly.net/ http://www.nuug.no/ Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.
Re: Wine on OpenBSD
On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 02:28:58PM -0600, Austin English wrote: I've gotten around some of the issues, but am looking for the 'right' way to do so, rather than hacks. Check the ports/misc archives. There was an effort on porting wine, but it did not get very far. If I remember correctly, there was some issues with process signal handling or whatever.
Re: Wine on OpenBSD
On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 01:43:42PM -0600, Austin English wrote: Any advice/help appreciated. run windows in a virtual machine. it may be slow, but it's a lot faster than trying to make wine work, especially if you can't get around the library issues you mentioned. -- jake...@sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org
Re: Wine on OpenBSD
On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Jacob Meuser jake...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote: On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 01:43:42PM -0600, Austin English wrote: Any advice/help appreciated. run windows in a virtual machine. it may be slow, but it's a lot faster than trying to make wine work, especially if you can't get around the library issues you mentioned. -- jake...@sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org I'm not worried about getting it done quickly. I'm looking at doing so properly so the fixes can be merged upstream. I've gotten around some of the issues, but am looking for the 'right' way to do so, rather than hacks. -- -Austin
Re: Wine on OpenBSD
On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 02:28:58PM -0600, Austin English wrote: I've gotten around some of the issues, but am looking for the 'right' way to do so, rather than hacks. have you looked in the misc@/ports@ archives? that is the 'right' thing to do before asking questions. -- jake...@sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org
