Re: a live cd/dvd?

2012-05-14 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Sat, 12 May 2012 11:16:34 -0700 Tyler Morgan wrote: Anyway, I hope that perspective is useful in some way. I have no strong opinion on the usefulness of an OpenBSD live CD, and this isn't a Linux mailing list blah blah blah WHilst you have valid points, I think your being a bit too

Re: a live cd/dvd?

2012-05-14 Thread Janne Johansson
2012/5/14 Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk: On Sat, 12 May 2012 11:16:34 -0700 Tyler Morgan wrote: Anyway, I hope that perspective is useful in some way. I have no strong opinion on the usefulness of an OpenBSD live CD, and this isn't a Linux mailing list blah blah blah WHilst you have

Re: a live cd/dvd?

2012-05-14 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Sun, 13 May 2012 18:17:10 -0700 Eric Oyen wrote: there are 2 ways: using ORCA in the Gnome desktop environment (or XFCE) or a console based screenreader I try to use alt text and reasonable ordering but for me to test my websites with. Do you use particular browsers with Orca or screen

Re: a live cd/dvd?

2012-05-14 Thread Eric Oyen
well, text only sites are fine, but hardly anyone codes that way anymore. a lot of modern websites use leveled headers, tables (mostly unlabeled), frames and content pop-overs. the last can be frustrating as the screen reader will not see those without being refreshed (in the case of voiceover,

Re: a live cd/dvd?

2012-05-13 Thread Laurence Rochfort
Booting single user on Linux would be a better solution than a livecd too. On May 13, 2012 4:37 AM, Nick Holland n...@holland-consulting.net wrote: On 05/12/12 14:16, Tyler Morgan wrote: On 5/11/2012 8:48 PM, Nick Holland wrote: I suspect the interest in [an OpenBSD Live CD] is rapidly

Re: a live cd/dvd?

2012-05-13 Thread Geoff Steckel
[lots of text snipped] I was looking at laptops recently. I took 2 linux CDs, an OpenBSD install CD, and a USB stick with OpenBSD on it. I got a lot more useful information about hardware compatibility from the OpenBSDs than the Linux CDs because OpenBSD didn't try to bring up anything

Re: a live cd/dvd?

2012-05-13 Thread Eric Oyen
ok, thats a bunch of information. However, for me, its the same as rocket science as I am totally blind and would require sighted assistance just to get it to either install a network card, or port to USB/Serial. Unlike the rest of you, using a computer with little or no accessibility on boot-up

Re: a live cd/dvd?

2012-05-13 Thread Mihai Popescu
Eric Oyen wrote: all I want is a way to make/execute a script to do the installation unattended. I think this can be done pretty easy once you figured out what options you do need for your specific installation by removing the code that ask for options - or forcing the defaults by tricking

Re: a live cd/dvd?

2012-05-13 Thread Sean Kamath
On May 13, 2012, at 12:30 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: ok, thats a bunch of information. However, for me, its the same as rocket science as I am totally blind and would require sighted assistance just to get it to either install a network card, or port to USB/Serial. Unlike the rest of you, using a

Re: a live cd/dvd?

2012-05-13 Thread Eric Oyen
Thanks. already looking into it. I may have to figure out how to include a screen reader to work in this. there are 2 ways: using ORCA in the Gnome desktop environment (or XFCE) or a console based screenreader (speakup works, but requires a lot of modifications to get it running). ORCA on an X

Re: a live cd/dvd?

2012-05-12 Thread Jan Stary
On May 11 18:47:22, Eric Oyen wrote: I was thinking that if we had a live image (A full running system) with an installer, we could have easier installations for the blind (and others as well). Much as I applaud any improvement that would make OpenBSD more accessible to the blind, I fail to

Re: a live cd/dvd?

2012-05-12 Thread André
2012/5/12 Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com Oh, and Theo, I would understand if you find this idea a little far fetched. haha... little far fetched... Since when are u using OpenBSD? Reading misc@ ? Andri

Re: a live cd/dvd?

2012-05-12 Thread Eric Oyen
since when? h. let me think since about OpenBSD 4.2 or so. and yes, I still need some visual assistance when doing an install/upgrade. also, to answer another poster's question: I use speakup from a linux source package (with the proper line in sysctl.conf enabled for linux binaries.

Re: a live cd/dvd?

2012-05-12 Thread Peter Hessler
Can you please let us know how you run it, and which packages you needed? The one at www.linux-speakup.org is a kernel module, and it isn't obvious how you use this with OpenBSD. On 2012 May 12 (Sat) at 03:48:35 -0700 (-0700), Eric Oyen wrote: :since when? h. let me think since about

Re: a live cd/dvd?

2012-05-12 Thread Tyler Morgan
On 5/11/2012 8:48 PM, Nick Holland wrote: I suspect the interest in [an OpenBSD Live CD] is rapidly approaching zero. Its a concept who's time has come...and gone, I think. Five or six years ago, yeah...cool. Today...why?. A live CD gives you a very rigid, predefined read-only environment.

Re: a live cd/dvd?

2012-05-12 Thread Nick Holland
On 05/12/12 14:16, Tyler Morgan wrote: On 5/11/2012 8:48 PM, Nick Holland wrote: I suspect the interest in [an OpenBSD Live CD] is rapidly approaching zero. Its a concept who's time has come...and gone, I think. Five or six years ago, yeah...cool. Today...why?. A live CD gives you a very

Re: a live cd/dvd?

2012-05-11 Thread Weldon Goree
On Fri, 2012-05-11 at 18:47 -0700, Eric Oyen wrote: hello everyone. I was thinking that if we had a live image (A full running system) with an installer, we could have easier installations for the blind (and others as well). Like this one? http://livecd-openbsd.sourceforge.net/ Or, if

Re: a live cd/dvd?

2012-05-11 Thread Eric Oyen
teaches me not to look at the website more often! /facepalm I never noticed these projects before. sometimes, being limited to braille or screen readers can be more than a little frustrating. thanks for the links though. I will give them a try and see what I can do with them. -eric On May 11,

Re: a live cd/dvd?

2012-05-11 Thread Nick Holland
On 05/11/12 21:46, Eric Oyen wrote: hello everyone. I was thinking that if we had a live image (A full running system) with an installer, we could have easier installations for the blind (and others as well). Now, some systems have the ability to port the screen to a local serial port