Re: form printer

2016-06-04 Thread Edgar Pettijohn 
Before posting this I had already acquired a Lexmark 2580 form 
printer relatively cheaply.  Apparently my printing problem was
ulpt related.  Using the parallel port and /dev/lpt0 works great.
The ink is dirt cheap, the paper is a little more expensive, 
but not much more regular print paper. I hadn't used lpd prior 
so the need a filter was new to me.  Wrote a real ugly filter in 'c' 
that takes care of carriage returns, etc. 
-- 
Edgar Pettijohn

Re: form printer

2016-05-31 Thread Edgar Pettijohn 
Sent from my (company furnished) iPhone

> On May 31, 2016, at 3:56 AM, Kapfhammer, Stefan <sk...@skapf.de> wrote:
>
> Sorry forgot to mention:
> www.oki.com
>
> Models: OKI ML-380/ML-381/ML-390/ML-391
>
Thanks. I was looking at this model using my online thinking box. Glad a human
being could confirm for me without an endless list of obvious information and
wiki links.


> -stefan
>
> Gesendet von meinem BlackBerry 10-Smartphone.
>   Originalnachricht
> Von: Kapfhammer, Stefan
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 31. Mai 2016 10:49
> An: li...@wrant.com; misc@openbsd.org
> Cc: ed...@pettijohn-web.com
> Betreff: AW: form printer
>
> ‎Hello Edgar,
>
> I would recommend OKI dot matrix printers.
> They have 9- and 24-dot printers. They are
> well supported with lpd. OKI has also every
> part on stock in case of repair.
> The rippon cartridges are cheap and last
> for up to 2 million chars.
>
> Regards,
> -stefan
>
> Gesendet von meinem BlackBerry 10-Smartphone.
> Originalnachricht
> Von: li...@wrant.com
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 31. Mai 2016 10:12
> An: misc@openbsd.org
> Cc: ed...@pettijohn-web.com
> Betreff: Re: form printer
>
>
> Mon, 30 May 2016 18:23:03 -0500 Edgar Pettijohn <ed...@pettijohn-web.com>
>> I am looking for a form printer. (The kind that take the paper with
>> the holes on the side.)
>
> Tractor-feed continuous form paper
> [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuous_stationery]
>
>> New ones are a little on the pricey side, so if anyone can share
>> their experience with a make/model that works with little fuss.
>
> Dot matrix (impact printer)
> [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dot_matrix_printing#Contemporary_use]
>
> The price is higher compared to speculatively inexpensive ink printers,
> for recurring consumables (ink) act as subsidy to the acquisition cost.
>
> Now narrower application (industry) reduced demand, lowered production
> numbers and respectively raised production cost per unit of dot matrix
> printers compared to seemingly cheaper actually expensive ink printers.
>
> Ribbon cartridges remain the cheapest consumable, dot matrix printers
> still offer lowest printing cost comparable only with laser printers.
>
>> Preferably with lpd, but I'm not completely opposed to using cupsd.
>> Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
>
> Important decision is the computer interface, here parallel port.
> [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_1284]
>
> Compare parallel (legacy) and USB (contemporary) device bandwidths.
> [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_device_bandwidths#Peripheral]
>
> A list of other printing processes, very interesting.
> [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Non-impact_printing]
>
> Laser printing is the document printing technology today.
> [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_printing]
>
> Some variants exist to make ink printing less of a problem.
> [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuous_ink_system]
>
> Both laser and ink printers have various artificially introduced
> software support problems & were listed here for comparison only.
>
> You did not include specific details, so the info is just as general.
> The synopsis is dot matrix printers are cheap, reliable and just work.
>
> lpd - line printer spooler daemon
> [http://man.openbsd.org/lpd]
>
> My suggestion would be to look for the consumable availability nearby.
>
>> Thanks,
>> Edgar

Re: form printer

2016-05-31 Thread lists 
Tue, 31 May 2016 08:49:53 + "Kapfhammer, Stefan" 
> I would recommend OKI dot matrix printers.
> They have 9- and 24-dot printers. They are
> well supported with lpd. OKI has also every
> part on stock in case of repair.
> The rippon cartridges are cheap and last
> for up to 2 million chars.
> 
> Mon, 30 May 2016 18:23:03 -0500 Edgar Pettijohn 
> > I am looking for a form printer.  (The kind that take the paper with
> > the holes on the side.)  
> 
> Tractor-feed continuous form paper
> [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuous_stationery]
> 
> > New ones are a little on the pricey side, so if anyone can share
> > their experience with a make/model that works with little fuss.  
> 
> Dot matrix (impact printer)
> [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dot_matrix_printing#Contemporary_use]
> 
> The price is higher compared to speculatively inexpensive ink printers,
> for recurring consumables (ink) act as subsidy to the acquisition cost.
> 
> Now narrower application (industry) reduced demand, lowered production
> numbers and respectively raised production cost per unit of dot matrix
> printers compared to seemingly cheaper actually expensive ink printers.
> 
> Ribbon cartridges remain the cheapest consumable, dot matrix printers
> still offer lowest printing cost comparable only with laser printers.
> 
> > Preferably with lpd, but I'm not completely opposed to using cupsd.
> > Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.  
> 
> Important decision is the computer interface, here parallel port.
> [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_1284]
> 
> Compare parallel (legacy) and USB (contemporary) device bandwidths.
> [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_device_bandwidths#Peripheral]
> 
> A list of other printing processes, very interesting.
> [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Non-impact_printing]
> 
> Laser printing is the document printing technology today.
> [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_printing]
> 
> Some variants exist to make ink printing less of a problem.
> [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuous_ink_system]
> 
> Both laser and ink printers have various artificially introduced
> software support problems & were listed here for comparison only.
> 
> You did not include specific details, so the info is just as general.
> The synopsis is dot matrix printers are cheap, reliable and just work.
> 
> lpd - line printer spooler daemon
> [http://man.openbsd.org/lpd]
> 
> My suggestion would be to look for the consumable availability nearby.
> 
> > Thanks,
> > Edgar  

I can confirm in Eastern Europe OKI and EPSON offer matrix printers and
are well presented both in trade and service, spare parts, consumables.

Re: form printer

2016-05-31 Thread Kapfhammer, Stefan 
‎Hello Edgar,

I would recommend OKI dot matrix printers.
They have 9- and 24-dot printers. They are
well supported with lpd. OKI has also every
part on stock in case of repair.
The rippon cartridges are cheap and last
for up to 2 million chars.

Regards,
-stefan

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  Originalnachricht
Von: li...@wrant.com
Gesendet: Dienstag, 31. Mai 2016 10:12
An: misc@openbsd.org
Cc: ed...@pettijohn-web.com
Betreff: Re: form printer


Mon, 30 May 2016 18:23:03 -0500 Edgar Pettijohn <ed...@pettijohn-web.com>
> I am looking for a form printer.  (The kind that take the paper with
> the holes on the side.)

Tractor-feed continuous form paper
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuous_stationery]

> New ones are a little on the pricey side, so if anyone can share
> their experience with a make/model that works with little fuss.

Dot matrix (impact printer)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dot_matrix_printing#Contemporary_use]

The price is higher compared to speculatively inexpensive ink printers,
for recurring consumables (ink) act as subsidy to the acquisition cost.

Now narrower application (industry) reduced demand, lowered production
numbers and respectively raised production cost per unit of dot matrix
printers compared to seemingly cheaper actually expensive ink printers.

Ribbon cartridges remain the cheapest consumable, dot matrix printers
still offer lowest printing cost comparable only with laser printers.

> Preferably with lpd, but I'm not completely opposed to using cupsd.
> Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Important decision is the computer interface, here parallel port.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_1284]

Compare parallel (legacy) and USB (contemporary) device bandwidths.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_device_bandwidths#Peripheral]

A list of other printing processes, very interesting.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Non-impact_printing]

Laser printing is the document printing technology today.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_printing]

Some variants exist to make ink printing less of a problem.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuous_ink_system]

Both laser and ink printers have various artificially introduced
software support problems & were listed here for comparison only.

You did not include specific details, so the info is just as general.
The synopsis is dot matrix printers are cheap, reliable and just work.

lpd - line printer spooler daemon
[http://man.openbsd.org/lpd]

My suggestion would be to look for the consumable availability nearby.

> Thanks,
> Edgar

Re: form printer

2016-05-31 Thread Kapfhammer, Stefan 
Sorry forgot to mention:
www.oki.com

Models: OKI ML-380/ML-381/ML-390/ML-391

-stefan

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  Originalnachricht  
Von: Kapfhammer, Stefan
Gesendet: Dienstag, 31. Mai 2016 10:49
An: li...@wrant.com; misc@openbsd.org
Cc: ed...@pettijohn-web.com
Betreff: AW: form printer

‎Hello Edgar,

I would recommend OKI dot matrix printers.
They have 9- and 24-dot printers. They are
well supported with lpd. OKI has also every
part on stock in case of repair.
The rippon cartridges are cheap and last
for up to 2 million chars.

Regards,
-stefan

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Originalnachricht
Von: li...@wrant.com
Gesendet: Dienstag, 31. Mai 2016 10:12
An: misc@openbsd.org
Cc: ed...@pettijohn-web.com
Betreff: Re: form printer


Mon, 30 May 2016 18:23:03 -0500 Edgar Pettijohn <ed...@pettijohn-web.com>
> I am looking for a form printer. (The kind that take the paper with
> the holes on the side.)

Tractor-feed continuous form paper
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuous_stationery]

> New ones are a little on the pricey side, so if anyone can share
> their experience with a make/model that works with little fuss.

Dot matrix (impact printer)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dot_matrix_printing#Contemporary_use]

The price is higher compared to speculatively inexpensive ink printers,
for recurring consumables (ink) act as subsidy to the acquisition cost.

Now narrower application (industry) reduced demand, lowered production
numbers and respectively raised production cost per unit of dot matrix
printers compared to seemingly cheaper actually expensive ink printers.

Ribbon cartridges remain the cheapest consumable, dot matrix printers
still offer lowest printing cost comparable only with laser printers.

> Preferably with lpd, but I'm not completely opposed to using cupsd.
> Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Important decision is the computer interface, here parallel port.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_1284]

Compare parallel (legacy) and USB (contemporary) device bandwidths.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_device_bandwidths#Peripheral]

A list of other printing processes, very interesting.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Non-impact_printing]

Laser printing is the document printing technology today.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_printing]

Some variants exist to make ink printing less of a problem.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuous_ink_system]

Both laser and ink printers have various artificially introduced
software support problems & were listed here for comparison only.

You did not include specific details, so the info is just as general.
The synopsis is dot matrix printers are cheap, reliable and just work.

lpd - line printer spooler daemon
[http://man.openbsd.org/lpd]

My suggestion would be to look for the consumable availability nearby.

> Thanks,
> Edgar

Re: form printer

2016-05-31 Thread Edgar Pettijohn 
If you can't answer the question. Please remain silent,

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 31, 2016, at 3:04 AM, li...@wrant.com wrote:
> 
> Mon, 30 May 2016 18:23:03 -0500 Edgar Pettijohn 
>> I am looking for a form printer.  (The kind that take the paper with 
>> the holes on the side.)
> 
> Tractor-feed continuous form paper
> [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuous_stationery]
> 
>> New ones are a little on the pricey side, so if anyone can share
>> their experience with a make/model that works with little fuss.
> 
> Dot matrix (impact printer)
> [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dot_matrix_printing#Contemporary_use]
> 
> The price is higher compared to speculatively inexpensive ink printers,
> for recurring consumables (ink) act as subsidy to the acquisition cost.
> 
> Now narrower application (industry) reduced demand, lowered production
> numbers and respectively raised production cost per unit of dot matrix
> printers compared to seemingly cheaper actually expensive ink printers.
> 
> Ribbon cartridges remain the cheapest consumable, dot matrix printers
> still offer lowest printing cost comparable only with laser printers.
> 
>> Preferably with lpd, but I'm not completely opposed to using cupsd.
>> Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
> 
> Important decision is the computer interface, here parallel port.
> [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_1284]
> 
> Compare parallel (legacy) and USB (contemporary) device bandwidths.
> [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_device_bandwidths#Peripheral]
> 
> A list of other printing processes, very interesting.
> [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Non-impact_printing]
> 
> Laser printing is the document printing technology today.
> [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_printing]
> 
> Some variants exist to make ink printing less of a problem.
> [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuous_ink_system]
> 
> Both laser and ink printers have various artificially introduced
> software support problems & were listed here for comparison only.
> 
> You did not include specific details, so the info is just as general.
> The synopsis is dot matrix printers are cheap, reliable and just work.
> 
> lpd - line printer spooler daemon
> [http://man.openbsd.org/lpd]
> 
> My suggestion would be to look for the consumable availability nearby.
> 
>> Thanks,
>> Edgar

Re: form printer

2016-05-31 Thread lists 
Mon, 30 May 2016 18:23:03 -0500 Edgar Pettijohn 
> I am looking for a form printer.  (The kind that take the paper with 
> the holes on the side.)

Tractor-feed continuous form paper
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuous_stationery]

> New ones are a little on the pricey side, so if anyone can share
> their experience with a make/model that works with little fuss.

Dot matrix (impact printer)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dot_matrix_printing#Contemporary_use]

The price is higher compared to speculatively inexpensive ink printers,
for recurring consumables (ink) act as subsidy to the acquisition cost.

Now narrower application (industry) reduced demand, lowered production
numbers and respectively raised production cost per unit of dot matrix
printers compared to seemingly cheaper actually expensive ink printers.

Ribbon cartridges remain the cheapest consumable, dot matrix printers
still offer lowest printing cost comparable only with laser printers.

> Preferably with lpd, but I'm not completely opposed to using cupsd.
> Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Important decision is the computer interface, here parallel port.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_1284]

Compare parallel (legacy) and USB (contemporary) device bandwidths.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_device_bandwidths#Peripheral]

A list of other printing processes, very interesting.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Non-impact_printing]

Laser printing is the document printing technology today.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_printing]

Some variants exist to make ink printing less of a problem.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuous_ink_system]

Both laser and ink printers have various artificially introduced
software support problems & were listed here for comparison only.

You did not include specific details, so the info is just as general.
The synopsis is dot matrix printers are cheap, reliable and just work.

lpd - line printer spooler daemon
[http://man.openbsd.org/lpd]

My suggestion would be to look for the consumable availability nearby.

> Thanks,
> Edgar