[mkgmap-dev] Routing issue with split road

2012-01-06 Thread Francisco Moraes
Hi, I have seen some strange routing issues with the way below. If I am driving south, my GPS wants me to make a U-turn where the divided highway ends. It seems like the ways are not connected but I checked and I can't find anything wrong in the OSM data.

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing issue with split road

2012-01-06 Thread Henning Scholland
Hi The fault is in osm-data. There is no turn restriction tagged. I've added such an restriction. Henning ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev

Re: [mkgmap-dev] routing on new devices

2011-11-22 Thread toc-rox
I use carpool lanes to avoid cars from cycleways - and it works fine. highway = radweg {add mkgmap:carpool=1} highway = radweg {add access = no; add bicycle = yes; add foot = yes} Regards Klaus -- View this message in context:

Re: [mkgmap-dev] routing on new devices

2011-11-22 Thread Josef Latt
Am 22.11.2011 09:30, schrieb toc-rox: highway = radweg Wie wär's mit 'highway=cycleway', oder fällt dies auch unter die Kategorie 'jeder kann amchen, was er will.' -- PGP Schlüssel: 311D1055 http://keyserver.pgp.com ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list

Re: [mkgmap-dev] routing on new devices

2011-11-21 Thread Minko
In Basecamp, I tested the routing on one highway=unclassified and added extra tags in my style file. Here are some test results: highway=unclassified { set motorcar=no; set motorcycle=no } or { set motorcar=no } or { set motorcycle=no } or { set access=no } - carpool avoidance NOT

Re: [mkgmap-dev] routing on new devices

2011-11-21 Thread Felix Hartmann
Your testing rubbish, sorry to say so. mkgmap:carpool is more or less equal to access=no; it should actually never be implemented in a map, as it mainly causes trouble, there is not proper use for it. destination and no should be handled equally by mkgmap, Garmin only knows no or yes. So if

Re: [mkgmap-dev] routing on new devices

2011-11-21 Thread Minko
Check it your self Felix, I'm not talking non sense. Chris confirmed this too. ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev

Re: [mkgmap-dev] routing on new devices

2011-11-21 Thread Felix Hartmann
Just check up the the list on carpool. There is an old post by Mark that explains what it does. But go ahead with the carpool stuff if you like to. I don't think carpool is useful at all and you can achieve the same things otherwise. Moreover I take you destination difference 100% attributed

Re: [mkgmap-dev] routing on new devices

2011-11-21 Thread Felix Hartmann
Actually see here what carpool means from the person who implemented it ( it is therefore in reality no avoidance, but just an combined setting of no on several vehicles): /That's because the carpoolness of a way is specified by having all of the access bits except for CARPOOL, EMERGENCY (and,

Re: [mkgmap-dev] routing on new devices

2011-11-20 Thread Chris66
Am 18.11.2011 13:04, schrieb Minko: Interesting tests Chris. I wonder how this works out on Basecamp? I've noticed that using 'avoid carpool' the routing gets very unpredictable, but maybe because I don't use it in my styles. In BaseCamp (v3.2.2) it's more or less the same:

Re: [mkgmap-dev] routing on new devices

2011-11-18 Thread Chris66
Am 17.11.2011 19:17, schrieb Chris66: but I think 'mkgmap:carpool' flag is not working. More testing with this flag on my etrex 20: it don't works if set alone (without other access flags). what works: mkgmap:carpool=1 + access=no blocks motorcars and bicycles from this road if

Re: [mkgmap-dev] routing on new devices

2011-11-18 Thread Minko
Interesting tests Chris. I wonder how this works out on Basecamp? I've noticed that using 'avoid carpool' the routing gets very unpredictable, but maybe because I don't use it in my styles. To use a gmapsupp.img in Basecamp, you can reset the MS flag in the gmapsupp header from 1 to zero and

Re: [mkgmap-dev] routing on new devices

2011-11-17 Thread Frank Fesevur
Chris, As I mentioned here before, I noticed that with the map I downloaded from garmin.openstreetmap.nl that the new eTrex 30 always acts as if I had selected pedestrian even when I select motorcar. Regards, Frank 2011/11/16 Chris66 chris66...@gmx.de: Hi, here some testing results

Re: [mkgmap-dev] routing improvements?

2011-11-16 Thread Marko Mäkelä
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 11:38:45PM +0100, fla...@googlemail.com wrote: I read http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:construction construction=minor means that a road can be driven but at lower speed. construction=yes mean that a road with the roadtype highway=* will be build, and you cant drive

Re: [mkgmap-dev] routing improvements?

2011-11-16 Thread Carlos Dávila
El 16/11/11 09:26, Marko Mäkelä escribió: On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 11:38:45PM +0100, fla...@googlemail.com wrote: I read http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:construction construction=minor means that a road can be driven but at lower speed. construction=yes mean that a road with the

Re: [mkgmap-dev] routing improvements?

2011-11-15 Thread Marko Mäkelä
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 02:11:37AM +0100, fla...@googlemail.com wrote: Perhaps we should also reduce roadspeed for construction = minor highway=* construction=minor [0x16 road_speed=3 resolution 22] ? What about construction=minor on a tertiary or lesser road? That should not increase the

Re: [mkgmap-dev] routing improvements?

2011-11-15 Thread Marko Mäkelä
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 06:37:53PM +0100, Minko wrote: * highway=construction I would suggest this, which would not grant or forbid access, but only lower the road_class and road_speed: -# Treat ways under construction as highway=path -highway=construction | highway=* construction=* {add

Re: [mkgmap-dev] routing improvements?

2011-11-15 Thread Carlos Dávila
El 15/11/11 22:19, Marko Mäkelä escribió: On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 06:37:53PM +0100, Minko wrote: * highway=construction I would suggest this, which would not grant or forbid access, but only lower the road_class and road_speed: -# Treat ways under construction as highway=path

Re: [mkgmap-dev] routing improvements?

2011-11-15 Thread fla...@googlemail.com
I read http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:construction construction=minor means that a road can be driven but at lower speed. construction=yes mean that a road with the roadtype highway=* will be build, and you cant drive it at the moment with an car. Thats the way i unterstand the wiki. I

Re: [mkgmap-dev] routing improvements?

2011-11-15 Thread Minko
Marko, I've tested the rules for (motor_)vehicle, seems to work well in Mapsource. It does not work in Basecamp but that is another issue. The fact that bicycles are also a vehicle is not widely known, so this changed routing will cause some confusion.

Re: [mkgmap-dev] routing improvements?

2011-11-15 Thread Marko Mäkelä
Hi Minko, I've tested the rules for (motor_)vehicle, seems to work well in Mapsource. It does not work in Basecamp but that is another issue. Thank you, I will commit it then. When it comes to the highway=construction or construction=*, I will wait for some feedback first. The fact that

[mkgmap-dev] routing improvements?

2011-11-13 Thread Minko
On http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=13257p=3 a few suggestions were posted to improve the routing: Maybe Marko can have a look at this to see if this can be added to the default style? * highway=construction Be careful with construction=minor.

Re: [mkgmap-dev] routing improvements?

2011-11-13 Thread Marko Mäkelä
Thanks Minko, the suggestions look reasonable to me. I responded to the thread, advertising the TYP compiler branch too, hoping to attract other testers for it. I had to fix some coastline issues this weekend, and could not proceed with splitting the default style yet. I will implement the

Re: [mkgmap-dev] routing improvements?

2011-11-13 Thread fla...@googlemail.com
Perhaps we should also reduce roadspeed for construction = minor highway=* construction=minor [0x16 road_speed=3 resolution 22] ? http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=202133#p202133 ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing with the eTrex 30

2011-10-19 Thread Thorsten Kukuk
On Tue, Oct 18, Felix Hartmann wrote: As I already wrote long time ago on the Basecamp forum, I don't think Garmin cares at all. Cause NO single map Garmin ever published does use bicycle or related settings. Hence not mkgmap does something wrong, but Garmin just eliminated sthg they never

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing with the eTrex 30

2011-10-18 Thread Chris66
Am 16.10.2011 20:34, schrieb Frank Fesevur: My conclusion is that car navigation does send me over cycleways and footways. It also sends you the wrong way in a oneway street. Funny, so Garmin seems to have new flags for the new models. Interresting question is: are old garmin maps (city

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing with the eTrex 30

2011-10-18 Thread Frank Fesevur
2011/10/18 Chris66 chris66...@gmx.de: Funny, so Garmin seems to have new flags for the new models. Yes, apparently something has changed for the new devices. Interresting question is: are old garmin maps (city navigator) still working on the new models? I always have used OSM based maps on

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing with the eTrex 30

2011-10-18 Thread Minko
I've tested an old CN on Basecamp and couldnt find any new issues compared to the Mapsource version. Cyclists are still routed to national routes that are forbidden to cycle on, but this is because Garmin doesn't care about bike riders. Of course cars are not routed on bikepaths because CN

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing with the eTrex 30

2011-10-18 Thread Felix Hartmann
As I already wrote long time ago on the Basecamp forum, I don't think Garmin cares at all. Cause NO single map Garmin ever published does use bicycle or related settings. Hence not mkgmap does something wrong, but Garmin just eliminated sthg they never used. Probably in a few versions the mode

[mkgmap-dev] Routing with the eTrex 30

2011-10-16 Thread Frank Fesevur
Hi all, A couple of weeks ago some of you asked me about the routing capabilities of the new eTrex 30 model. First of all, as I said before. My previous model was a Venture HC, so without routing. I had nothing to compare to, when it comes to routing on an eTrex. Today I finally had time to do

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing with the eTrex 30

2011-10-16 Thread Minko
Thanks Frank, Thats what I already feared. Hofzicht (Cycleway) is a created line by mkgmap with the make-all-cycleways tag (cycleway=opposite) make-all-cycleways If you are using a style file this option is not necessary because it can be created in the line styles with continue statements and

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing not working

2011-10-15 Thread Carlos Dávila
Just for the record, finally I got routing working on MapSource by changing FID from 18 to a number higher than 100, as suggested by Felix on http://openmtbmap.org/tutorials/install/gmaptool-install-maps/ El 29/09/11 13:33, Carlos Dávila escribió: I still have the same problem on MapSource.

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing not working

2011-09-29 Thread Carlos Dávila
I still have the same problem on MapSource. The full map is now available at [1]. If anyone is willing to give it a try I would thank very much. [1] http://mapas.alternativaslibres.es/MapSource_india.zip El 13/09/11 23:22, Carlos Dávila escribió: El 13/09/11 21:36, michael lohr escribió:

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing - Documentation and Best Practice

2011-09-14 Thread Minko
Ralf, I don't think it will work in Mapsource/Basecamp with two different routing layers in one map. For instance you have a car based routing map in Layer 1: family-name=Layer1 input-file: 1001.osm.gz input-file: 1002.osm.gz And a bicycle/foot routing map in Layer 2: family-name=Layer2

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing not working

2011-09-13 Thread Carlos Dávila
El 12/09/11 20:48, michael lohr escribió: have you tried routing a short way in a densely mapped area (e.g. delhi)? the density of roads in many parts of india is so low that routing breaks because of lack of information. Yes, I have tried to route even with origin and end points in the same

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing not working

2011-09-13 Thread michael lohr
can you upload a map tile somewhere? Am 13.09.2011 19:04, schrieb Carlos Dávila: El 12/09/11 20:48, michael lohr escribió: have you tried routing a short way in a densely mapped area (e.g. delhi)? the density of roads in many parts of india is so low that routing breaks because of lack of

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing not working

2011-09-13 Thread Carlos Dávila
El 13/09/11 20:22, michael lohr escribió: can you upload a map tile somewhere? http://mapas.alternativaslibres.es/55180001.img Am 13.09.2011 19:04, schrieb Carlos Dávila: El 12/09/11 20:48, michael lohr escribió: have you tried routing a short way in a densely mapped area (e.g. delhi)? the

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing not working

2011-09-13 Thread michael lohr
i noticed that a lot of roads have no road id. mumbai area seems ok at the first glance, does the routing work there? Am 13.09.2011 20:46, schrieb Carlos Dávila: El 13/09/11 20:22, michael lohr escribió: can you upload a map tile somewhere? http://mapas.alternativaslibres.es/55180001.img

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing not working

2011-09-13 Thread Carlos Dávila
El 13/09/11 20:50, michael lohr escribió: i noticed that a lot of roads have no road id. mumbai area seems ok at the first glance, does the routing work there? No. still the same problem. I tried ten short routes in different types of ways and it doesn't work. Am 13.09.2011 20:46, schrieb

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing not working

2011-09-13 Thread michael lohr
routing in gpsmapedit works ok (tools - test routing graph), even over longer distances. you're trying on a gps or in mapsource? Am 13.09.2011 21:19, schrieb Carlos Dávila: El 13/09/11 20:50, michael lohr escribió: i noticed that a lot of roads have no road id. mumbai area seems ok at the

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing not working

2011-09-13 Thread Carlos Dávila
El 13/09/11 21:36, michael lohr escribió: routing in gpsmapedit works ok (tools - test routing graph), even over longer distances. you're trying on a gps or in mapsource? In Mapsource 6.13.7 and 6.16.3. I sent the map to gps from MS and I can simulate routing from one location to a given point,

[mkgmap-dev] Routing not working

2011-09-12 Thread Carlos Dávila
I have compiled a map of India from Geofabrik extract, using the commands below, similar to the ones I use for other countries. The map compiles without errors but routing doesn't work on MapSource, only a straight line is drawn from point A to B. I have tried with different days extracts with

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing not working

2011-09-12 Thread Thorsten Kukuk
On Mon, Sep 12, Carlos Dávila wrote: I have compiled a map of India from Geofabrik extract, using the commands below, similar to the ones I use for other countries. The map compiles without errors but routing doesn't work on MapSource, only a straight line is drawn from point A to B. I

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing not working

2011-09-12 Thread Carlos Dávila
El 12/09/11 16:21, Thorsten Kukuk escribió: On Mon, Sep 12, Carlos Dávila wrote: I have compiled a map of India from Geofabrik extract, using the commands below, similar to the ones I use for other countries. The map compiles without errors but routing doesn't work on MapSource, only a

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing not working

2011-09-12 Thread michael lohr
have you tried routing a short way in a densely mapped area (e.g. delhi)? the density of roads in many parts of india is so low that routing breaks because of lack of information. Am 12.09.2011 16:23, schrieb Carlos Dávila: I have compiled a map of India from Geofabrik extract, using the

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing question

2011-09-10 Thread Francisco Moraes
On 2:59 PM, Marko Mäkelä wrote: Is this just a Garmin bug? Can you try routing a shorter distance? For example, start from the Davis Dr close to the Old Jenkins Rd and ask for a route to the US64W ramp. I tried this. There several points south of Old Jenks Rd that still want to do that funny

[mkgmap-dev] Routing question

2011-09-09 Thread Francisco Moraes
Hi, When I am going south on Davis Dr and want to merge into US-64 West, the GPS and MapSource choose to turn left into Old Jenks Rd, right into N Salem St and then get the ramp to enter US 64W instead of the direct route from Davis Dr, turn right into the ramp. Any ideas why this happens? I

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing question

2011-09-09 Thread Marko Mäkelä
On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 09:04:14AM -0400, Francisco Moraes wrote: When I am going south on Davis Dr and want to merge into US-64 West, the GPS and MapSource choose to turn left into Old Jenks Rd, right into N Salem St and then get the ramp to enter US 64W instead of the direct route from Davis

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing - Documentation and Best Practice

2011-09-06 Thread toc-rox
I have tested the routing behavior on my Dakota-20 with firmware 4.70. The behavior is as expected and totally different from BaseCamp (Windows, OS X). Maybe a bug in BaseCamp ... -- View this message in context:

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing - Documentation and Best Practice

2011-08-29 Thread michael lohr
i think one could make 2 extra tdb files/overview maps for mapsource - 1 to bundle base/car, another to bundle base/cycle Am 28.08.2011 18:33, schrieb Minko: Sounds interesting, but how will you do that? Can you give an example which I can download? I don't see how you can tell mapsource

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing - Documentation and Best Practice

2011-08-29 Thread Ralf kleineisel
On 08/28/2011 06:33 PM, Minko wrote: Sounds interesting, but how will you do that? Can you give an example which I can download? Sure. I first run mkgmap on the OSM files to generate the IMGs and the gmapsupp.img. The config file looks somewhat like this: gmapsupp [more options ...]

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing - Documentation and Best Practice

2011-08-28 Thread Minko
Yes Klaus, I already wrote that in my first reply to your question. In the latest releases of Basecamp (since 3.2.1) all access rules are ignored. Some things still work, like oneway=yes. And the avoidance options. I reported this bug on the Garmin Forum but I doubt they will ever look on it,

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing - Documentation and Best Practice

2011-08-28 Thread toc-rox
Sounds terrible - devaluates *all* OSM garmin maps. Next week I will do further test on my Dakota-20 with Firm 4.30. Klaus PS: My workaround is to use the toll and ferry bits (toll for footways and ferry for cycleways). Yes I agree, it's a dirty workaround. And I hope that someone finds the

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing - Documentation and Best Practice

2011-08-28 Thread Minko
As the Garmin developer writes on the forum, they don't recognize it as a bug unless someone can show this behaviour affects also their official Garmin maps like Topo Germany. Maybe someone can test this? Klaus wrote: And I hope that someone finds the reason for the new routing behavior.

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing - Documentation and Best Practice

2011-08-28 Thread Felix Hartmann
On 28.08.2011 10:43, Minko wrote: As the Garmin developer writes on the forum, they don't recognize it as a bug unless someone can show this behaviour affects also their official Garmin maps like Topo Germany. Maybe someone can test this? Garmin never included such information into any of

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing - Documentation and Best Practice

2011-08-28 Thread Minko
I just noticed that even cars are routed on cycleways on OSM maps... This happens only in Basecamp, not in the latest Mapsource 6.16.3 nor on the GPS. Although they have never supported OSM tags, why is this changed? There must be some bug in the latest BC releases.

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing - Documentation and Best Practice

2011-08-28 Thread toc-rox
Minko-2 wrote: I just noticed that even cars are routed on cycleways on OSM maps... Yes you are right. BTW: This was the reason why I have started this thread. I have always tested my maps with BaseCamp (3.2.1 / 3.2.2, Windows, OS X) and on my Dakota-20 with the new Firmware 4.30. I though

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing - Documentation and Best Practice

2011-08-28 Thread Martin
You can see this phenomenon also with CN-Maps ;) Am 28.08.2011 um 11:10 schrieb Minko: I just noticed that even cars are routed on cycleways on OSM maps... This happens only in Basecamp, not in the latest Mapsource 6.16.3 nor on the GPS. Although they have never supported OSM tags, why

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing - Documentation and Best Practice

2011-08-28 Thread Minko
I don't agree, this is totally different, CN-maps never supported bike routing. Even in Mapsource and on the GPS cyclists are routed on major highways on CN maps. There are no cycleways on CN either so cars will never be routed on cycleways simply because they don't show them. This post is

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing - Documentation and Best Practice

2011-08-28 Thread Martin
The last time my new garmin (Nüvi 1390) tried to route via pedestrian... Am 28.08.2011 um 12:13 schrieb Minko: I don't agree, this is totally different, CN-maps never supported bike routing. Even in Mapsource and on the GPS cyclists are routed on major highways on CN maps. There are no

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing - Documentation and Best Practice

2011-08-28 Thread michael lohr
this might be slightly off-topic, but still: why not avoid the whole problem altogether? i use a non-routable base map containing everything you see on the screen, on top of that 2 transparent routable maps, one for car, one for bicycle, switched on/off according to the vehicle used. this

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing - Documentation and Best Practice

2011-08-28 Thread Minko
Unfortunately Garmins mapbrowser don't support multi-layered maps :-( You have either a basemap that doesn't route, or an empty map with just roads. Not both, unless we stick to the discontinued Mapsource or we can find a trick. ___ mkgmap-dev

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing - Documentation and Best Practice

2011-08-28 Thread Ralf kleineisel
On 08/28/2011 01:29 PM, Minko wrote: Unfortunately Garmins mapbrowser don't support multi-layered maps :-( You have either a basemap that doesn't route, or an empty map with just roads. Not both, unless we stick to the discontinued Mapsource or we can find a trick. You can make a

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing - Documentation and Best Practice

2011-08-28 Thread Minko
Sounds interesting, but how will you do that? Can you give an example which I can download? I don't see how you can tell mapsource which tile to take when you switch vehicle in the routing menu. Ralf wrote: You can make a special TDB file and overview map file for Mapsource with just one family

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing - Documentation and Best Practice

2011-08-27 Thread toc-rox
Further investigation has shown a significant difference (concerning routing) between MapSource (Windows, 6.16.3) and BaseCamp (Windows, OS X, 3.2.2). It seems that the access bits (e.g. access=no; bicycle=yes; ...) in BaseCamp are not working as expected. Could someone verify my observation?

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing - Documentation and Best Practice

2011-08-23 Thread Chris66
Am 22.08.2011 14:40, schrieb Minko: I've tried it to avoid steps in the bicycle routing but this doesn't always work as expected: toll roads - yes ferry - yes unpaved - no (does work on track roads) What is the tracktype? The rule is handling grade2 - grade6 as unpaved. highway=*

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing - Documentation and Best Practice

2011-08-23 Thread Minko
Hi Chris, Finally I managed to get the avoidance of steps working with mkgmap:unpaved=1 I had to move it to the front of the action block. This rule didn't work for me in Basecamp (altough it worked in Mapsource!): highway=steps {add access = no; add foot = yes; set mkgmap:unpaved=1} [0x13

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing - Documentation and Best Practice

2011-08-23 Thread toc-rox
Could someone describe the unwanted side effects of the avoid carpool roads setting ? Thanks - Klaus -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/Routing-Documentation-and-Best-Practice-tp6710634p6715703.html Sent from the Mkgmap Development mailing list archive at

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing - Documentation and Best Practice

2011-08-23 Thread Minko
Unexplainable long detours if the carpool avoidance is set. Could someone describe the unwanted side effects of the avoid carpool roads setting ? Thanks - Klaus ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk

[mkgmap-dev] Routing - Documentation and Best Practice

2011-08-22 Thread toc-rox
Currently I'm working on the routing feature of my garmin maps and run into some problems. I was looking for detailed information concerning routing (incl. best pratice) but couldn't find such a document. Question: Could someone point me to such a documentation or describe the best practice?

[mkgmap-dev] Routing - Documentation and Best Practice

2011-08-22 Thread toc-rox
Currently I'm working on the routing feature of my garmin maps and run into some problems. I was looking for detailed information concerning routing (incl. best pratice) but couldn't find such a document. Question: Could someone point me to such a documentation or describe the best practice?

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing - Documentation and Best Practice

2011-08-22 Thread Marko Mäkelä
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 01:41:04AM -0700, toc-rox wrote: Currently I'm working on the routing feature of my garmin maps and run into some problems. I was looking for detailed information concerning routing (incl. best pratice) but couldn't find such a document. Question: Could someone point me

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing - Documentation and Best Practice

2011-08-22 Thread Minko
Since Garmin has stopped the development of Mapsource in favour of Basecamp, it's maybe necessary to have a closer look at the routing scripts. In the latest releases of Basecamp parameters like bicycle=no, foot=no etc don't work anymore as expected. This leads to unwanted routing like cycling

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing - Documentation and Best Practice

2011-08-22 Thread toc-rox
Thanks for the response - I have something like this: highway = path foot = designated {set highway = fussweg} highway = footway foot = designated {set highway = fussweg} ... # Routing (nur Fussgaenger zulassen) highway = fussweg {add access = no; add foot = yes} highway = fussweg [0x16

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing - Documentation and Best Practice

2011-08-22 Thread SomeoneElse
On 22/08/2011 10:54, Minko wrote: I'm afraid that if Garmin is updating the firmware of their units according to the newer Basecamp procedures routing will also fail on the GPS. The new eTrex series is due out real soon now - it'll be interesting to see what if anything they've changed.

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing - Documentation and Best Practice

2011-08-22 Thread Marko Mäkelä
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 03:08:42AM -0700, toc-rox wrote: Thanks for the response - I have something like this: highway = path foot = designated {set highway = fussweg} highway = footway foot = designated {set highway = fussweg} ... # Routing (nur Fussgaenger zulassen) highway = fussweg

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing - Documentation and Best Practice

2011-08-22 Thread toc-rox
The effect on BaseCamp OS X (3.2.1) Map with routing (red line = foot only; blue line = foot + bicycle): http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/file/n6710993/Map.png Map with unexpected motorcar routing: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/file/n6710993/Unexpected_Routing.png Map with expected

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing - Documentation and Best Practice

2011-08-22 Thread Minko
I think Klaus deals with the same problems that my cycle map users have pointed me when using the latest releases of Basecamp. See http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=13384p=2 (in Dutch but you can use google translate) Not only my maps are affected but in fact all OSM/mkgmap and

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing - Documentation and Best Practice

2011-08-22 Thread toc-rox
It seems that the avoid features (toll, carpool, ferry, unpaved, ...) are still working as expected. Maybe a workaround ... Klaus -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/Routing-Documentation-and-Best-Practice-tp6710634p6711106.html Sent from the Mkgmap Development

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing - Documentation and Best Practice

2011-08-22 Thread Minko
I've tried it to avoid steps in the bicycle routing but this doesn't always work as expected: toll roads - yes ferry - yes unpaved - no (does work on track roads) carpool - no (plus unwanted side effects) Klaus wrote: It seems that the avoid features (toll, carpool, ferry, unpaved, ...) are

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing - Documentation and Best Practice

2011-08-22 Thread toc-rox
Toll roads and ferries seems to have the highest priority. Both have something to do with money - sounds reasonable. Klaus -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/Routing-Documentation-and-Best-Practice-tp6710634p6711963.html Sent from the Mkgmap Development mailing

[mkgmap-dev] Routing error Austria

2011-07-24 Thread Chris66
Hi, Routingerror on Felbertauerntunnel (Austria) in BaseCamp and (concerning to a user report in the OSM forum) also on GPSMAP62 Device : http://up.picr.de/7750089mbq.png Routing N-S ok, S-N not ok (straight line). Routing in Cloudmade is OK:

[mkgmap-dev] Routing restriction points

2011-06-07 Thread ValentinAK
Hi! How to make a restriction of access on the road if it contains a point with barrier=bollard or barrier=gate? I mean are the same as the turn restrictions with relations type=restriction. -- View this message in context:

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing restriction points

2011-06-07 Thread Marko Mäkelä
On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 04:28:28AM -0700, ValentinAK wrote: Hi! How to make a restriction of access on the road if it contains a point with barrier=bollard or barrier=gate? I mean are the same as the turn restrictions with relations type=restriction. As far as I understand, --link-pois-to-ways

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing restriction points

2011-06-07 Thread ValentinAK
This restriction is not the property of ways. This is a property of point. But this is not POI! -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/Routing-restriction-points-tp6449115p6449705.html Sent from the Mkgmap Development mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing restriction points

2011-06-07 Thread Colin Smale
On 07/06/2011 13:28, ValentinAK wrote: Hi! How to make a restriction of access on the road if it contains a point with barrier=bollard or barrier=gate? I mean are the same as the turn restrictions with relations type=restriction. In my experience these barrier nodes are effectively ignored,

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing restriction points

2011-06-07 Thread ValentinAK
I'm talking about restrictions contained in routing parameters of some points. Not all the points but only some of which specifies the possibility of a turn or reversal. Usually this points located at the intersection of of ways. This is an example of routing parameters of the barrier point in

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing restriction points

2011-06-07 Thread Chris66
Am 07.06.2011 15:40, schrieb Marko Mäkelä: How to make a restriction of access on the road if it contains a point with barrier=bollard or barrier=gate? I mean are the same as the turn restrictions with relations type=restriction. As far as I understand, --link-pois-to-ways does this. I

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing problem and question about footways

2011-05-18 Thread Marko Mäkelä
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 07:27:35AM +0200, Thorsten Kukuk wrote: The only solution is to fix the data. Here in Nuernberg, somebody did draw all plattforms for public transport and marked them as footway, but didn't connect them with the street. As result, you always get an routing error if you

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing problem and question about footways

2011-05-18 Thread Francisco Moraes
On 5/18/2011 2:03 AM, mkgmap-dev-requ...@lists.mkgmap.org.uk wrote: This can only be fixed by fixing the OSM data: Either connect all routeable ways or mark this special bridge as not routeable. Is there a recommended tag for this? Should I just add motorcar=no or something else to that bridge

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing problem and question about footways

2011-05-18 Thread Marko Mäkelä
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 07:53:31AM -0400, Francisco Moraes wrote: On 5/18/2011 2:03 AM, mkgmap-dev-requ...@lists.mkgmap.org.uk wrote: This can only be fixed by fixing the OSM data: Either connect all routeable ways or mark this special bridge as not routeable. Is there a recommended tag for

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing problem and question about footways

2011-05-18 Thread Marko Mäkelä
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 08:47:58AM -0400, Francisco Moraes wrote: The problem this is a company building (Cisco) and I have no idea what the layout is. You could add source=extrapolation to the corridor footways you make up, or you could add access=private to the bridge and modify the style so

[mkgmap-dev] Routing problem and question about footways

2011-05-17 Thread Francisco Moraes
I had a routing problem a long time ago and never understood the reason. Now that I have made several map contributions, fixes and compiled my own map, I thought I found the reason for the routing failure. This is the area in question:

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Routing problem and question about footways

2011-05-17 Thread Thorsten Kukuk
On Tue, May 17, Francisco Moraes wrote: I had a routing problem a long time ago and never understood the reason. Now that I have made several map contributions, fixes and compiled my own map, I thought I found the reason for the routing failure. This is the area in question:

Re: [mkgmap-dev] routing issues with multiple lines address search

2011-04-21 Thread Minko
Sorry I was mistaken, I didnt search well. If I don't specify the place name, all the streets are found. If I specify a place name, less results show up. About the other routing problems, I think I've found a solution to the overlay lines which are routable (had to add road_speed and road_class

Re: [mkgmap-dev] routing issues with multiple lines address search

2011-04-20 Thread Minko
Wanmil, Speaking about the index, do you have an idea why when in Mapsource the address search streets are connected with the right city (map made with the locator jar) on the gps the address search is not as good and many streets are not connected to a place name? If I compile the map with

Re: [mkgmap-dev] routing issues with multiple lines address search

2011-04-20 Thread WanMil
Wanmil, Speaking about the index, do you have an idea why when in Mapsource the address search streets are connected with the right city (map made with the locator jar) on the gps the address search is not as good and many streets are not connected to a place name? I have no idea.

Re: [mkgmap-dev] routing issues with multiple lines address search

2011-04-17 Thread Minko
Hmm maybe it helps if I edit my style file rules, it could be an error in the style files... Routing goes well though in Mapsource and on the GPS when pointing on the map. This was not going to work in combination with address routing: highway=primary bicycle=no [0x0301 road_class=0

Re: [mkgmap-dev] routing issues with multiple lines address search

2011-04-17 Thread Minko
BTW it seems to happen more often with the locator jar than the regular mkgmap version. In Mapsource it works ok, but when the map is send to the device, some streetnames are not connected to a placename. I wrote: Another problem with address search is that although Mapsource finds the

Re: [mkgmap-dev] routing issues with multiple lines address search

2011-04-17 Thread WanMil
Conclusions: -If two routable lines are combined, routing breaks when address search is used (btw I have used mkgmap-locator-r1912.jar, same happened with previous version) I think (I haven't confirmed) that the address point of a street is the center point of the streets bounding box

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