Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone?
I am in full agreement with you sir. I feel that we all should launch a campaigne against the manufacturers of Touch phones taking the recourse of UNCRPD wherein it is mandated that everything produced around the world should be accessible fully to all the users. With regards Mittal -Original Message- From: Mobile.accessindia [mailto:mobile.accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Shyam M. Sayanekar Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 11:32 PM To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobilephonesand Tabs. Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? All these discussions show that the blind are facing several genuin problems with the Touch Screen, which did not exist in the Symbian phones. Furthermore, these problems are not india-specific but universal. Few days back I had subscribed to a group, where there were members mostly from the countries of Europe and America, but they were also facing several problems regarding the touch screen and were asking for different external key-pads. Instead of just criticizing these discussions, one has to help finding out solutions. I think, those who have prepared this operating system and its corusponding Screen reader have not taken the blind into account. The touch screen can be much more easy if all the buttons are labled, and if all the buttons in all applications have a fixed place, what so ever it may be. If the buttons like more options, delete, okay, cancal, done, are assigned a fixed place, the blind would find it much easy. Thanking you, Yours, Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar. Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.or g.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone?
Hi At the outset, I am sorry to use a very touchy example to drive my point. When we have lost our sight or in some cases loosing it, does it do us any good wishing we get our full vision back? We did not stop our life at this stage. We have taken our steps to move ahead. That is exactly the stage we are presently with regards to the Symbian phones. Agreed, the ease of use is not there in the touchscreen phones, however, we are not on a dead end. We have good number of success stories amongst us using touchscreen phones and we need to learn and share tips we pick on our way. This positive mind set should be our motivation to see through this changing times and we have the support of the list to see us through. We should express our mind and grieveance with makers of the touch screen phones to have key phones also as an option. The OS does not stop any manufacturer in making a key based phones. This is the approach to take to make any difference. Let us now close this thread and I also empathise with the members to endure this topic which keeps popping up time to time. Harish Kotian -Original Message- From: Mobile.accessindia [mailto:mobile.accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ishita kapoor Sent: 08 October 2014 12:45 To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones and Tabs. Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? we all are using android phones. and we love the platform. in my case i can do almost all necessary things with my phone. but you can't use touch screen as easily as qwerty phones. external keyboard is not solution of our problem. i can type as fast as my brother in qwerty phone but not in android. what can you do when a person asks you to misscall him or her when you are in moving auto or bus? it is the easiest thing to say that we can do everything. but only qwerty phone can give us complete eas. On 10/8/14, Gufran gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote: Ofcource android is not a bad system but its partners I.e the phone makers are making touch oriented phones which are creating typing issues. I think the masters of touch phones should show some ways to increase typing speed.. Instead of critizing the new android users. As this is our issues. Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On October 7, 2014 11:30:31 PM Mahesh S. Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com wrote: I was a Symbian user for 5 years before shifting to Android more than a year ago. I bought my new Android phone when my Symbian Nokia phone with keypad was still very much functional. But the first thing I did after getting my Android was to lock away the old Nokia C5. I listened to podcasts, read tutorials, talked to people, participated in mailing lists, more than anything else did a lot of exploration of my own and figured out Android for myself. Have never used the old Symbian after I moved on to Android. Android is a developing system, and there still are glitches. Google themselves haven't made their apps fully accessible. The TalkBack developers are rather slow in addressing important user feedbacks. However, Android is pretty much functional. The functionality of an Android phone is miles better than that of a Symbian phone. The touch interface is new, and particularly in terms of typing, it is not the fastest system for many. But the beauty of Android is that for a majority of things, there are alternatives. So if you don't like lift to dial, there are alternative apps that helps by providing the tap to dial feature. Keyboard also has tap to type option available however there is no free accessible app available for the same at the moment as far as I know, and a number of the tap to type apps are not yet TalkBack accessible. We have to keep giving feedback, engage with the developers and try and make these products accessible. Some Indian companies like Intex have recently come out with Android phones with physical keypads. And there are companies like Tactus Technologies who are working on a tactile keypad that can be integrated with a touch interface. So in the future, we should have more options. Nokia killed off Symbian long back, the company itself is now with Microsoft who uses their Windows platform on the Nokia phones now. So Symbian is a thing of the past. and Touchscreen interface is the name of the game today as far as smartphones are concerned. It certainly is possible to use an Android touchscreen device as your primary device. But a touchscreen interface wouldn't work like one with a physical keypad, but that doesn't mean it is not functional. You can experiment with different types of keypads, try a Bluetooth keyboard that has got enhanced TalkBack support in the recent update, try voice input... And in the meanwhile, hopefully TalkBack developers will look at some of the issues and further enhance Android accessibility. On 10/7/14
Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone?
Nice! I fully agry on this thought. Regards. Dr.Narendra Kumar Chelani. -Original Message- From: Shyam M. Sayanekar Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 11:31 PM To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobilephonesand Tabs. Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? All these discussions show that the blind are facing several genuin problems with the Touch Screen, which did not exist in the Symbian phones. Furthermore, these problems are not india-specific but universal. Few days back I had subscribed to a group, where there were members mostly from the countries of Europe and America, but they were also facing several problems regarding the touch screen and were asking for different external key-pads. Instead of just criticizing these discussions, one has to help finding out solutions. I think, those who have prepared this operating system and its corusponding Screen reader have not taken the blind into account. The touch screen can be much more easy if all the buttons are labled, and if all the buttons in all applications have a fixed place, what so ever it may be. If the buttons like more options, delete, okay, cancal, done, are assigned a fixed place, the blind would find it much easy. Thanking you, Yours, Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar. Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone?
Praising symbian is like praising an old, outdated and small house which is not available for us now. We have been given a new, advance and large house. being a blind person, we're wandering inside it. but as time kills all mobility problems inside the house gradually, we'll win the battle as time passes out and advancement of technology takes place frequently. -- From: Shyam M. Sayanekar sayane...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 11:31 PM To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobilephonesand Tabs. mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? All these discussions show that the blind are facing several genuin problems with the Touch Screen, which did not exist in the Symbian phones. Furthermore, these problems are not india-specific but universal. Few days back I had subscribed to a group, where there were members mostly from the countries of Europe and America, but they were also facing several problems regarding the touch screen and were asking for different external key-pads. Instead of just criticizing these discussions, one has to help finding out solutions. I think, those who have prepared this operating system and its corusponding Screen reader have not taken the blind into account. The touch screen can be much more easy if all the buttons are labled, and if all the buttons in all applications have a fixed place, what so ever it may be. If the buttons like more options, delete, okay, cancal, done, are assigned a fixed place, the blind would find it much easy. Thanking you, Yours, Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar. Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone?
I am surprised to see that the moderator is yet to intervene in this discussion and specially to those comments persecuting users still missing their keypad based phones... Discussing and comparing old versus new technologies doesn't mean inviting wrath of some frenzy folks who instead of answeing to valid questions prefer to jump on hasty conclusion and even act as analyst and super moderator tagging it as timepass and suggesting close of thread. Its better to offer sollutions of problems rather hiding behind cover of being super techy! Some of my questions: 1. how to send one sms to around 150 people from contact list which contains 700 contacts, specially when one doesn't remember all names and hence compelled to browse all contacts? 2. how to make typing easier without incurring additional cost, time and effort? 3. how to ascertain that which menu is located at which place in various windows? Remember that there are people who don't have much free time to leave important works and give their whole day on exploring and remembering that which menu is located at which place. 4. how to label multiple of unlabelled buttons in androit without taking sighted help? On 10/5/14, Salim qureshi salim2...@gmail.com wrote: hi, this topic is nothing but a fully timepass. Some folks will never come out from ded simbian worldb. Let them stay there only. I'm really enjoying my android world. And yes i am not missing any of my simbian phones any more. On 10/5/14, Sagar sagar.verma5...@gmail.com wrote: What is this? What do you mean touchscreen is not for us? Are you out of your mind? Sent from my iPhone On 5 Oct 2014, at 14:43, Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com wrote: Let's see whether any company comes with better jugad. But obviously touchscreen are not for blind folks. On 10/5/14, P L VARMA plvni...@gmail.com wrote: i am sure indian jugad will ultimately provide a solution!!! smiles!!! - Original Message - From: Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phonesand Tabs. mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2014 12:25 AM Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? true. if physical keyboard is attached to android phone, it will be most accessible phone. On 10/4/14, Vikas Kapoor dl.vi...@gmail.com wrote: I suppose it is not really the platform we should be struggling for, rather it is keypad versus touch interface, so symbian is not really the question but the touch interface. Since Symbian is primarily associated with the keypad interface and Android with touch interface, we've started labeling the OS instead of the structure of a phone in terms of accessibility and comfortability... - Original Message - From: Shyam M. Sayanekar sayane...@gmail.com To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobilephonesand Tabs. mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? Yes very much. This is so because; the ease and total control which you could get in the symbian phone is not possible in the Android phone. The option key, the menu key and the arrow keys give you full control over the symbian phone. The typing eas in the Symbian phone is wonderful. In the symbian phone the full phone could be operated with one hand with your single thumb, whereas, in Android you require using both hands and more fingers. Some say that they do everything just with one hand, but that is an exception and not a rule. The main problem with the android phones is that the location of different buttons such as delete button and more options button in different operations is not fixed, and you take a lot of time to locate them. Further more, many of the buttons are not labled. The number of screens also add to our problems, All these problems are not there in the Symbian. Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar Telephone: 0251-2438457 Mobile: +91 9920410788 Skype ID- sayanekar - Original Message - From: Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com To: mobile.accessindia mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 12:51 PM Subject: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? Just I was wondering how many of you are missing their old nokia Symbian phones after shifting to touchscreen world? Because Symbian is not choice either for future but still I love Symbian and will be missing when I will be losing it. -- Mohib Anwar Rafel M.Phil 2011, LL.M 2013 Ph.D Candidate, at Jawaharlal Nehru University Delhi, India Phone: 09211192333, 0926800 Skype: mohibrafel Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia
Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone?
another concern: even though if you use external keypad, how do you make screen reader to read the current windows/focused item/line on text? and without swiping notification shade and statuses cannot be read. how do you access those on external keypads such as rivo keyboard? - Original Message - From: Himanshu Sahu sahu.himanshu2...@gmail.com To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phonesand Tabs. mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? I am surprised to see that the moderator is yet to intervene in this discussion and specially to those comments persecuting users still missing their keypad based phones... Discussing and comparing old versus new technologies doesn't mean inviting wrath of some frenzy folks who instead of answeing to valid questions prefer to jump on hasty conclusion and even act as analyst and super moderator tagging it as timepass and suggesting close of thread. Its better to offer sollutions of problems rather hiding behind cover of being super techy! Some of my questions: 1. how to send one sms to around 150 people from contact list which contains 700 contacts, specially when one doesn't remember all names and hence compelled to browse all contacts? 2. how to make typing easier without incurring additional cost, time and effort? 3. how to ascertain that which menu is located at which place in various windows? Remember that there are people who don't have much free time to leave important works and give their whole day on exploring and remembering that which menu is located at which place. 4. how to label multiple of unlabelled buttons in androit without taking sighted help? On 10/5/14, Salim qureshi salim2...@gmail.com wrote: hi, this topic is nothing but a fully timepass. Some folks will never come out from ded simbian worldb. Let them stay there only. I'm really enjoying my android world. And yes i am not missing any of my simbian phones any more. On 10/5/14, Sagar sagar.verma5...@gmail.com wrote: What is this? What do you mean touchscreen is not for us? Are you out of your mind? Sent from my iPhone On 5 Oct 2014, at 14:43, Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com wrote: Let's see whether any company comes with better jugad. But obviously touchscreen are not for blind folks. On 10/5/14, P L VARMA plvni...@gmail.com wrote: i am sure indian jugad will ultimately provide a solution!!! smiles!!! - Original Message - From: Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phonesand Tabs. mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2014 12:25 AM Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? true. if physical keyboard is attached to android phone, it will be most accessible phone. On 10/4/14, Vikas Kapoor dl.vi...@gmail.com wrote: I suppose it is not really the platform we should be struggling for, rather it is keypad versus touch interface, so symbian is not really the question but the touch interface. Since Symbian is primarily associated with the keypad interface and Android with touch interface, we've started labeling the OS instead of the structure of a phone in terms of accessibility and comfortability... - Original Message - From: Shyam M. Sayanekar sayane...@gmail.com To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobilephonesand Tabs. mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? Yes very much. This is so because; the ease and total control which you could get in the symbian phone is not possible in the Android phone. The option key, the menu key and the arrow keys give you full control over the symbian phone. The typing eas in the Symbian phone is wonderful. In the symbian phone the full phone could be operated with one hand with your single thumb, whereas, in Android you require using both hands and more fingers. Some say that they do everything just with one hand, but that is an exception and not a rule. The main problem with the android phones is that the location of different buttons such as delete button and more options button in different operations is not fixed, and you take a lot of time to locate them. Further more, many of the buttons are not labled. The number of screens also add to our problems, All these problems are not there in the Symbian. Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar Telephone: 0251-2438457 Mobile: +91 9920410788 Skype ID- sayanekar - Original Message - From: Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com To: mobile.accessindia mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 12:51 PM Subject: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? Just I was wondering how many of you are missing their old nokia Symbian phones after
Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone?
So far as I know, on android with the help of external physical keypad you can't know the currently focused itom. Rather u can take left and right arrow to determine which was last focused itom. But again keypad can not unlock your phone if its screen got locked. Regarding RIVO keyboard, its not that much helpful as its on iOS platform. Some users says it not very much helpful. the fact is that you can not accomplish many tasks directly from android RIVO in present senareo. Even the manufacturer of this keyboard are not working on it to develop it anymore, because their argument is that android provides less support to external physical keyboards. May things are changed with the release of Android L which is about to be launched in a month or so. And yes, these are the things, a user isn't missing? On 10/7/14, Sheik Mohammedali shahid.se...@gmail.com wrote: another concern: even though if you use external keypad, how do you make screen reader to read the current windows/focused item/line on text? and without swiping notification shade and statuses cannot be read. how do you access those on external keypads such as rivo keyboard? - Original Message - From: Himanshu Sahu sahu.himanshu2...@gmail.com To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phonesand Tabs. mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? I am surprised to see that the moderator is yet to intervene in this discussion and specially to those comments persecuting users still missing their keypad based phones... Discussing and comparing old versus new technologies doesn't mean inviting wrath of some frenzy folks who instead of answeing to valid questions prefer to jump on hasty conclusion and even act as analyst and super moderator tagging it as timepass and suggesting close of thread. Its better to offer sollutions of problems rather hiding behind cover of being super techy! Some of my questions: 1. how to send one sms to around 150 people from contact list which contains 700 contacts, specially when one doesn't remember all names and hence compelled to browse all contacts? 2. how to make typing easier without incurring additional cost, time and effort? 3. how to ascertain that which menu is located at which place in various windows? Remember that there are people who don't have much free time to leave important works and give their whole day on exploring and remembering that which menu is located at which place. 4. how to label multiple of unlabelled buttons in androit without taking sighted help? On 10/5/14, Salim qureshi salim2...@gmail.com wrote: hi, this topic is nothing but a fully timepass. Some folks will never come out from ded simbian worldb. Let them stay there only. I'm really enjoying my android world. And yes i am not missing any of my simbian phones any more. On 10/5/14, Sagar sagar.verma5...@gmail.com wrote: What is this? What do you mean touchscreen is not for us? Are you out of your mind? Sent from my iPhone On 5 Oct 2014, at 14:43, Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com wrote: Let's see whether any company comes with better jugad. But obviously touchscreen are not for blind folks. On 10/5/14, P L VARMA plvni...@gmail.com wrote: i am sure indian jugad will ultimately provide a solution!!! smiles!!! - Original Message - From: Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phonesand Tabs. mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2014 12:25 AM Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? true. if physical keyboard is attached to android phone, it will be most accessible phone. On 10/4/14, Vikas Kapoor dl.vi...@gmail.com wrote: I suppose it is not really the platform we should be struggling for, rather it is keypad versus touch interface, so symbian is not really the question but the touch interface. Since Symbian is primarily associated with the keypad interface and Android with touch interface, we've started labeling the OS instead of the structure of a phone in terms of accessibility and comfortability... - Original Message - From: Shyam M. Sayanekar sayane...@gmail.com To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobilephonesand Tabs. mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? Yes very much. This is so because; the ease and total control which you could get in the symbian phone is not possible in the Android phone. The option key, the menu key and the arrow keys give you full control over the symbian phone. The typing eas in the Symbian phone is wonderful. In the symbian phone the full phone could be operated with one hand with your single thumb
Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone?
One more observation, in Symbian phones you could do exactly in the same way as a non talks user could do. The method of using the phone was quite similar whether with or with out talks. But here on touchscreen devices the methods of using phone are different from non-screen reader users. to give an example, in android for copying/paste the text we have to take local context menue, to read line by line or para by para we have to change in global context menue. More over when talkback is on, sighted users can not use our phone easily. On 10/7/14, Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com wrote: So far as I know, on android with the help of external physical keypad you can't know the currently focused itom. Rather u can take left and right arrow to determine which was last focused itom. But again keypad can not unlock your phone if its screen got locked. Regarding RIVO keyboard, its not that much helpful as its on iOS platform. Some users says it not very much helpful. the fact is that you can not accomplish many tasks directly from android RIVO in present senareo. Even the manufacturer of this keyboard are not working on it to develop it anymore, because their argument is that android provides less support to external physical keyboards. May things are changed with the release of Android L which is about to be launched in a month or so. And yes, these are the things, a user isn't missing? On 10/7/14, Sheik Mohammedali shahid.se...@gmail.com wrote: another concern: even though if you use external keypad, how do you make screen reader to read the current windows/focused item/line on text? and without swiping notification shade and statuses cannot be read. how do you access those on external keypads such as rivo keyboard? - Original Message - From: Himanshu Sahu sahu.himanshu2...@gmail.com To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phonesand Tabs. mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? I am surprised to see that the moderator is yet to intervene in this discussion and specially to those comments persecuting users still missing their keypad based phones... Discussing and comparing old versus new technologies doesn't mean inviting wrath of some frenzy folks who instead of answeing to valid questions prefer to jump on hasty conclusion and even act as analyst and super moderator tagging it as timepass and suggesting close of thread. Its better to offer sollutions of problems rather hiding behind cover of being super techy! Some of my questions: 1. how to send one sms to around 150 people from contact list which contains 700 contacts, specially when one doesn't remember all names and hence compelled to browse all contacts? 2. how to make typing easier without incurring additional cost, time and effort? 3. how to ascertain that which menu is located at which place in various windows? Remember that there are people who don't have much free time to leave important works and give their whole day on exploring and remembering that which menu is located at which place. 4. how to label multiple of unlabelled buttons in androit without taking sighted help? On 10/5/14, Salim qureshi salim2...@gmail.com wrote: hi, this topic is nothing but a fully timepass. Some folks will never come out from ded simbian worldb. Let them stay there only. I'm really enjoying my android world. And yes i am not missing any of my simbian phones any more. On 10/5/14, Sagar sagar.verma5...@gmail.com wrote: What is this? What do you mean touchscreen is not for us? Are you out of your mind? Sent from my iPhone On 5 Oct 2014, at 14:43, Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com wrote: Let's see whether any company comes with better jugad. But obviously touchscreen are not for blind folks. On 10/5/14, P L VARMA plvni...@gmail.com wrote: i am sure indian jugad will ultimately provide a solution!!! smiles!!! - Original Message - From: Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phonesand Tabs. mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2014 12:25 AM Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? true. if physical keyboard is attached to android phone, it will be most accessible phone. On 10/4/14, Vikas Kapoor dl.vi...@gmail.com wrote: I suppose it is not really the platform we should be struggling for, rather it is keypad versus touch interface, so symbian is not really the question but the touch interface. Since Symbian is primarily associated with the keypad interface and Android with touch interface, we've started labeling the OS instead of the structure of a phone in terms of accessibility and comfortability... - Original Message - From: Shyam M. Sayanekar sayane...@gmail.com To: Dedicated
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All these discussions show that the blind are facing several genuin problems with the Touch Screen, which did not exist in the Symbian phones. Furthermore, these problems are not india-specific but universal. Few days back I had subscribed to a group, where there were members mostly from the countries of Europe and America, but they were also facing several problems regarding the touch screen and were asking for different external key-pads. Instead of just criticizing these discussions, one has to help finding out solutions. I think, those who have prepared this operating system and its corusponding Screen reader have not taken the blind into account. The touch screen can be much more easy if all the buttons are labled, and if all the buttons in all applications have a fixed place, what so ever it may be. If the buttons like more options, delete, okay, cancal, done, are assigned a fixed place, the blind would find it much easy. Thanking you, Yours, Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar. Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
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, October 07, 2014 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? I am surprised to see that the moderator is yet to intervene in this discussion and specially to those comments persecuting users still missing their keypad based phones... Discussing and comparing old versus new technologies doesn't mean inviting wrath of some frenzy folks who instead of answeing to valid questions prefer to jump on hasty conclusion and even act as analyst and super moderator tagging it as timepass and suggesting close of thread. Its better to offer sollutions of problems rather hiding behind cover of being super techy! Some of my questions: 1. how to send one sms to around 150 people from contact list which contains 700 contacts, specially when one doesn't remember all names and hence compelled to browse all contacts? 2. how to make typing easier without incurring additional cost, time and effort? 3. how to ascertain that which menu is located at which place in various windows? Remember that there are people who don't have much free time to leave important works and give their whole day on exploring and remembering that which menu is located at which place. 4. how to label multiple of unlabelled buttons in androit without taking sighted help? On 10/5/14, Salim qureshi salim2...@gmail.com wrote: hi, this topic is nothing but a fully timepass. Some folks will never come out from ded simbian worldb. Let them stay there only. I'm really enjoying my android world. And yes i am not missing any of my simbian phones any more. On 10/5/14, Sagar sagar.verma5...@gmail.com wrote: What is this? What do you mean touchscreen is not for us? Are you out of your mind? Sent from my iPhone On 5 Oct 2014, at 14:43, Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com wrote: Let's see whether any company comes with better jugad. But obviously touchscreen are not for blind folks. On 10/5/14, P L VARMA plvni...@gmail.com wrote: i am sure indian jugad will ultimately provide a solution!!! smiles!!! - Original Message - From: Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phonesand Tabs. mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2014 12:25 AM Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? true. if physical keyboard is attached to android phone, it will be most accessible phone. On 10/4/14, Vikas Kapoor dl.vi...@gmail.com wrote: I suppose it is not really the platform we should be struggling for, rather it is keypad versus touch interface, so symbian is not really the question but the touch interface. Since Symbian is primarily associated with the keypad interface and Android with touch interface, we've started labeling the OS instead of the structure of a phone in terms of accessibility and comfortability... - Original Message - From: Shyam M. Sayanekar sayane...@gmail.com To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobilephonesand Tabs. mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? Yes very much. This is so because; the ease and total control which you could get in the symbian phone is not possible in the Android phone. The option key, the menu key and the arrow keys give you full control over the symbian phone. The typing eas in the Symbian phone is wonderful. In the symbian phone the full phone could be operated with one hand with your single thumb, whereas, in Android you require using both hands and more fingers. Some say that they do everything just with one hand, but that is an exception and not a rule. The main problem with the android phones is that the location of different buttons such as delete button and more options button in different operations is not fixed, and you take a lot of time to locate them. Further more, many of the buttons are not labled. The number of screens also add to our problems, All these problems are not there in the Symbian. Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar Telephone: 0251-2438457 Mobile: +91 9920410788 Skype ID- sayanekar - Original Message - From: Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com To: mobile.accessindia mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 12:51 PM Subject: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? Just I was wondering how many of you are missing their old nokia Symbian phones after shifting to touchscreen world? Because Symbian is not choice either for future but still I love Symbian and will be missing when I will be losing it. -- Mohib Anwar Rafel M.Phil 2011, LL.M 2013 Ph.D Candidate, at Jawaharlal Nehru University Delhi, India Phone: 09211192333, 0926800 Skype: mohibrafel Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia
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Let's see whether any company comes with better jugad. But obviously touchscreen are not for blind folks. On 10/5/14, P L VARMA plvni...@gmail.com wrote: i am sure indian jugad will ultimately provide a solution!!! smiles!!! - Original Message - From: Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phonesand Tabs. mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2014 12:25 AM Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? true. if physical keyboard is attached to android phone, it will be most accessible phone. On 10/4/14, Vikas Kapoor dl.vi...@gmail.com wrote: I suppose it is not really the platform we should be struggling for, rather it is keypad versus touch interface, so symbian is not really the question but the touch interface. Since Symbian is primarily associated with the keypad interface and Android with touch interface, we've started labeling the OS instead of the structure of a phone in terms of accessibility and comfortability... - Original Message - From: Shyam M. Sayanekar sayane...@gmail.com To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobilephonesand Tabs. mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? Yes very much. This is so because; the ease and total control which you could get in the symbian phone is not possible in the Android phone. The option key, the menu key and the arrow keys give you full control over the symbian phone. The typing eas in the Symbian phone is wonderful. In the symbian phone the full phone could be operated with one hand with your single thumb, whereas, in Android you require using both hands and more fingers. Some say that they do everything just with one hand, but that is an exception and not a rule. The main problem with the android phones is that the location of different buttons such as delete button and more options button in different operations is not fixed, and you take a lot of time to locate them. Further more, many of the buttons are not labled. The number of screens also add to our problems, All these problems are not there in the Symbian. Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar Telephone: 0251-2438457 Mobile: +91 9920410788 Skype ID- sayanekar - Original Message - From: Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com To: mobile.accessindia mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 12:51 PM Subject: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? Just I was wondering how many of you are missing their old nokia Symbian phones after shifting to touchscreen world? Because Symbian is not choice either for future but still I love Symbian and will be missing when I will be losing it. -- Mohib Anwar Rafel M.Phil 2011, LL.M 2013 Ph.D Candidate, at Jawaharlal Nehru University Delhi, India Phone: 09211192333, 0926800 Skype: mohibrafel Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through
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What is this? What do you mean touchscreen is not for us? Are you out of your mind? Sent from my iPhone On 5 Oct 2014, at 14:43, Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com wrote: Let's see whether any company comes with better jugad. But obviously touchscreen are not for blind folks. On 10/5/14, P L VARMA plvni...@gmail.com wrote: i am sure indian jugad will ultimately provide a solution!!! smiles!!! - Original Message - From: Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phonesand Tabs. mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2014 12:25 AM Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? true. if physical keyboard is attached to android phone, it will be most accessible phone. On 10/4/14, Vikas Kapoor dl.vi...@gmail.com wrote: I suppose it is not really the platform we should be struggling for, rather it is keypad versus touch interface, so symbian is not really the question but the touch interface. Since Symbian is primarily associated with the keypad interface and Android with touch interface, we've started labeling the OS instead of the structure of a phone in terms of accessibility and comfortability... - Original Message - From: Shyam M. Sayanekar sayane...@gmail.com To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobilephonesand Tabs. mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? Yes very much. This is so because; the ease and total control which you could get in the symbian phone is not possible in the Android phone. The option key, the menu key and the arrow keys give you full control over the symbian phone. The typing eas in the Symbian phone is wonderful. In the symbian phone the full phone could be operated with one hand with your single thumb, whereas, in Android you require using both hands and more fingers. Some say that they do everything just with one hand, but that is an exception and not a rule. The main problem with the android phones is that the location of different buttons such as delete button and more options button in different operations is not fixed, and you take a lot of time to locate them. Further more, many of the buttons are not labled. The number of screens also add to our problems, All these problems are not there in the Symbian. Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar Telephone: 0251-2438457 Mobile: +91 9920410788 Skype ID- sayanekar - Original Message - From: Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com To: mobile.accessindia mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 12:51 PM Subject: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? Just I was wondering how many of you are missing their old nokia Symbian phones after shifting to touchscreen world? Because Symbian is not choice either for future but still I love Symbian and will be missing when I will be losing it. -- Mohib Anwar Rafel M.Phil 2011, LL.M 2013 Ph.D Candidate, at Jawaharlal Nehru University Delhi, India Phone: 09211192333, 0926800 Skype: mohibrafel Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents
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Hi, He might be reffering to the type by lifting the finger method in android. Though I have fully mastered it yet I will be more than happy to switch to any easier jugad if possible in near future. My earphones always come handy and they do a fantastic job in busses/ transport, cinema halls, parties etc. I fully enjoy android!!! Thanks and regards, Ajay On 10/5/14, Sagar sagar.verma5...@gmail.com wrote: What is this? What do you mean touchscreen is not for us? Are you out of your mind? Sent from my iPhone On 5 Oct 2014, at 14:43, Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com wrote: Let's see whether any company comes with better jugad. But obviously touchscreen are not for blind folks. On 10/5/14, P L VARMA plvni...@gmail.com wrote: i am sure indian jugad will ultimately provide a solution!!! smiles!!! - Original Message - From: Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phonesand Tabs. mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2014 12:25 AM Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? true. if physical keyboard is attached to android phone, it will be most accessible phone. On 10/4/14, Vikas Kapoor dl.vi...@gmail.com wrote: I suppose it is not really the platform we should be struggling for, rather it is keypad versus touch interface, so symbian is not really the question but the touch interface. Since Symbian is primarily associated with the keypad interface and Android with touch interface, we've started labeling the OS instead of the structure of a phone in terms of accessibility and comfortability... - Original Message - From: Shyam M. Sayanekar sayane...@gmail.com To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobilephonesand Tabs. mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? Yes very much. This is so because; the ease and total control which you could get in the symbian phone is not possible in the Android phone. The option key, the menu key and the arrow keys give you full control over the symbian phone. The typing eas in the Symbian phone is wonderful. In the symbian phone the full phone could be operated with one hand with your single thumb, whereas, in Android you require using both hands and more fingers. Some say that they do everything just with one hand, but that is an exception and not a rule. The main problem with the android phones is that the location of different buttons such as delete button and more options button in different operations is not fixed, and you take a lot of time to locate them. Further more, many of the buttons are not labled. The number of screens also add to our problems, All these problems are not there in the Symbian. Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar Telephone: 0251-2438457 Mobile: +91 9920410788 Skype ID- sayanekar - Original Message - From: Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com To: mobile.accessindia mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 12:51 PM Subject: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? Just I was wondering how many of you are missing their old nokia Symbian phones after shifting to touchscreen world? Because Symbian is not choice either for future but still I love Symbian and will be missing when I will be losing it. -- Mohib Anwar Rafel M.Phil 2011, LL.M 2013 Ph.D Candidate, at Jawaharlal Nehru University Delhi, India Phone: 09211192333, 0926800 Skype: mohibrafel Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for previous
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Mr. Sagar, please mind your language, that is my opinion, merely an opinion. You may disregard in simpler and better words. Don't force me to take stringent action against you. On 10/5/14, Ajay Minocha ajayminoc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, He might be reffering to the type by lifting the finger method in android. Though I have fully mastered it yet I will be more than happy to switch to any easier jugad if possible in near future. My earphones always come handy and they do a fantastic job in busses/ transport, cinema halls, parties etc. I fully enjoy android!!! Thanks and regards, Ajay On 10/5/14, Sagar sagar.verma5...@gmail.com wrote: What is this? What do you mean touchscreen is not for us? Are you out of your mind? Sent from my iPhone On 5 Oct 2014, at 14:43, Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com wrote: Let's see whether any company comes with better jugad. But obviously touchscreen are not for blind folks. On 10/5/14, P L VARMA plvni...@gmail.com wrote: i am sure indian jugad will ultimately provide a solution!!! smiles!!! - Original Message - From: Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phonesand Tabs. mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2014 12:25 AM Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? true. if physical keyboard is attached to android phone, it will be most accessible phone. On 10/4/14, Vikas Kapoor dl.vi...@gmail.com wrote: I suppose it is not really the platform we should be struggling for, rather it is keypad versus touch interface, so symbian is not really the question but the touch interface. Since Symbian is primarily associated with the keypad interface and Android with touch interface, we've started labeling the OS instead of the structure of a phone in terms of accessibility and comfortability... - Original Message - From: Shyam M. Sayanekar sayane...@gmail.com To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobilephonesand Tabs. mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? Yes very much. This is so because; the ease and total control which you could get in the symbian phone is not possible in the Android phone. The option key, the menu key and the arrow keys give you full control over the symbian phone. The typing eas in the Symbian phone is wonderful. In the symbian phone the full phone could be operated with one hand with your single thumb, whereas, in Android you require using both hands and more fingers. Some say that they do everything just with one hand, but that is an exception and not a rule. The main problem with the android phones is that the location of different buttons such as delete button and more options button in different operations is not fixed, and you take a lot of time to locate them. Further more, many of the buttons are not labled. The number of screens also add to our problems, All these problems are not there in the Symbian. Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar Telephone: 0251-2438457 Mobile: +91 9920410788 Skype ID- sayanekar - Original Message - From: Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com To: mobile.accessindia mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 12:51 PM Subject: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? Just I was wondering how many of you are missing their old nokia Symbian phones after shifting to touchscreen world? Because Symbian is not choice either for future but still I love Symbian and will be missing when I will be losing it. -- Mohib Anwar Rafel M.Phil 2011, LL.M 2013 Ph.D Candidate, at Jawaharlal Nehru University Delhi, India Phone: 09211192333, 0926800 Skype: mohibrafel Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise
Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone?
Yes, accessible more than Symbian. I think, keyboard should not be attached on the screen, it has to be attached any other style. Screen should be full touch. For typing, dialing and other navigations, keyboard can be used. For other functions, touch screen is most comfortable than a keypad. --- For latest software updates, job alerts, tech updates and more at http://talkingnet.blogspot.com Facebook: http://facebook.com/sinoj.vr Twitter: @sinojvr -Original Message- From: Mohib Anwar Rafel Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2014 12:25 AM To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phonesand Tabs. Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? true. if physical keyboard is attached to android phone, it will be most accessible phone. On 10/4/14, Vikas Kapoor dl.vi...@gmail.com wrote: I suppose it is not really the platform we should be struggling for, rather it is keypad versus touch interface, so symbian is not really the question but the touch interface. Since Symbian is primarily associated with the keypad interface and Android with touch interface, we've started labeling the OS instead of the structure of a phone in terms of accessibility and comfortability... - Original Message - From: Shyam M. Sayanekar sayane...@gmail.com To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobilephonesand Tabs. mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? Yes very much. This is so because; the ease and total control which you could get in the symbian phone is not possible in the Android phone. The option key, the menu key and the arrow keys give you full control over the symbian phone. The typing eas in the Symbian phone is wonderful. In the symbian phone the full phone could be operated with one hand with your single thumb, whereas, in Android you require using both hands and more fingers. Some say that they do everything just with one hand, but that is an exception and not a rule. The main problem with the android phones is that the location of different buttons such as delete button and more options button in different operations is not fixed, and you take a lot of time to locate them. Further more, many of the buttons are not labled. The number of screens also add to our problems, All these problems are not there in the Symbian. Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar Telephone: 0251-2438457 Mobile: +91 9920410788 Skype ID- sayanekar - Original Message - From: Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com To: mobile.accessindia mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 12:51 PM Subject: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? Just I was wondering how many of you are missing their old nokia Symbian phones after shifting to touchscreen world? Because Symbian is not choice either for future but still I love Symbian and will be missing when I will be losing it. -- Mohib Anwar Rafel M.Phil 2011, LL.M 2013 Ph.D Candidate, at Jawaharlal Nehru University Delhi, India Phone: 09211192333, 0926800 Skype: mohibrafel Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held
Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone?
Nobody can bring back those dead models for us. This thread should be closed immediately. Living with nostalgia wil not change the reality. - Original Message - From: Salim qureshi salim2...@gmail.com To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phonesand Tabs. mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2014 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? hi, this topic is nothing but a fully timepass. Some folks will never come out from ded simbian world. Let them stay there only. I'm really enjoying my android world. And yes i am not missing any of my simbian phones any more. On 10/5/14, Sagar sagar.verma5...@gmail.com wrote: What is this? What do you mean touchscreen is not for us? Are you out of your mind? Sent from my iPhone On 5 Oct 2014, at 14:43, Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com wrote: Let's see whether any company comes with better jugad. But obviously touchscreen are not for blind folks. On 10/5/14, P L VARMA plvni...@gmail.com wrote: i am sure indian jugad will ultimately provide a solution!!! smiles!!! - Original Message - From: Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phonesand Tabs. mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2014 12:25 AM Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? true. if physical keyboard is attached to android phone, it will be most accessible phone. On 10/4/14, Vikas Kapoor dl.vi...@gmail.com wrote: I suppose it is not really the platform we should be struggling for, rather it is keypad versus touch interface, so symbian is not really the question but the touch interface. Since Symbian is primarily associated with the keypad interface and Android with touch interface, we've started labeling the OS instead of the structure of a phone in terms of accessibility and comfortability... - Original Message - From: Shyam M. Sayanekar sayane...@gmail.com To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobilephonesand Tabs. mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? Yes very much. This is so because; the ease and total control which you could get in the symbian phone is not possible in the Android phone. The option key, the menu key and the arrow keys give you full control over the symbian phone. The typing eas in the Symbian phone is wonderful. In the symbian phone the full phone could be operated with one hand with your single thumb, whereas, in Android you require using both hands and more fingers. Some say that they do everything just with one hand, but that is an exception and not a rule. The main problem with the android phones is that the location of different buttons such as delete button and more options button in different operations is not fixed, and you take a lot of time to locate them. Further more, many of the buttons are not labled. The number of screens also add to our problems, All these problems are not there in the Symbian. Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar Telephone: 0251-2438457 Mobile: +91 9920410788 Skype ID- sayanekar - Original Message - From: Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com To: mobile.accessindia mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 12:51 PM Subject: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? Just I was wondering how many of you are missing their old nokia Symbian phones after shifting to touchscreen world? Because Symbian is not choice either for future but still I love Symbian and will be missing when I will be losing it. -- Mohib Anwar Rafel M.Phil 2011, LL.M 2013 Ph.D Candidate, at Jawaharlal Nehru University Delhi, India Phone: 09211192333, 0926800 Skype: mohibrafel Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect
Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone?
hi mohip, if i will get a good phone with keypad i will never miss simbian. as i love android really. but at the time of typing long message or mail miss simbian phone just because of keypad. On 10/4/14, Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com wrote: Just I was wondering how many of you are missing their old nokia Symbian phones after shifting to touchscreen world? Because Symbian is not choice either for future but still I love Symbian and will be missing when I will be losing it. -- Mohib Anwar Rafel M.Phil 2011, LL.M 2013 Ph.D Candidate, at Jawaharlal Nehru University Delhi, India Phone: 09211192333, 0926800 Skype: mohibrafel Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone?
thats why i have both! On 04/10/2014, ishita kapoor ishitakapoor...@gmail.com wrote: hi mohip, if i will get a good phone with keypad i will never miss simbian. as i love android really. but at the time of typing long message or mail miss simbian phone just because of keypad. On 10/4/14, Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com wrote: Just I was wondering how many of you are missing their old nokia Symbian phones after shifting to touchscreen world? Because Symbian is not choice either for future but still I love Symbian and will be missing when I will be losing it. -- Mohib Anwar Rafel M.Phil 2011, LL.M 2013 Ph.D Candidate, at Jawaharlal Nehru University Delhi, India Phone: 09211192333, 0926800 Skype: mohibrafel Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- thanks and regards your'sPRABHU K. phone: +91 8464070041 b com corperate and secretaryship loyola college, chennai you can give me a personal message by clicking the link below!! kota.pra...@gmail.com skype me! prabhu.95 lets connect on facebook: https://facebook.com/kota.prabhu?v=inforefid=17ref=pymk 99% of our problems are caused by 1% of our carelessness and negligance Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone?
Hey there, Symbian phones were good however it's better to have a Bluetooth keyboard Symbian is not required any more. It was good but we had limited access. Cheers. Sent from my iPhone On 4 Oct 2014, at 15:46, Prabhu Kota kota.pra...@gmail.com wrote: thats why i have both! On 04/10/2014, ishita kapoor ishitakapoor...@gmail.com wrote: hi mohip, if i will get a good phone with keypad i will never miss simbian. as i love android really. but at the time of typing long message or mail miss simbian phone just because of keypad. On 10/4/14, Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com wrote: Just I was wondering how many of you are missing their old nokia Symbian phones after shifting to touchscreen world? Because Symbian is not choice either for future but still I love Symbian and will be missing when I will be losing it. -- Mohib Anwar Rafel M.Phil 2011, LL.M 2013 Ph.D Candidate, at Jawaharlal Nehru University Delhi, India Phone: 09211192333, 0926800 Skype: mohibrafel Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- thanks and regards your'sPRABHU K. phone: +91 8464070041 b com corperate and secretaryship loyola college, chennai you can give me a personal message by clicking the link below!! kota.pra...@gmail.com skype me! prabhu.95 lets connect on facebook: https://facebook.com/kota.prabhu?v=inforefid=17ref=pymk 99% of our problems are caused by 1% of our carelessness and negligance Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone?
I'd love to use symbian phones for basic features such as calling and sms still. but further to the symbian these smart phones provide many facilities which can never be missed even. ☺ - Original Message - From: Sagar sagar.verma5...@gmail.com To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phonesand Tabs. mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? Hey there, Symbian phones were good however it's better to have a Bluetooth keyboard Symbian is not required any more. It was good but we had limited access. Cheers. Sent from my iPhone On 4 Oct 2014, at 15:46, Prabhu Kota kota.pra...@gmail.com wrote: thats why i have both! On 04/10/2014, ishita kapoor ishitakapoor...@gmail.com wrote: hi mohip, if i will get a good phone with keypad i will never miss simbian. as i love android really. but at the time of typing long message or mail miss simbian phone just because of keypad. On 10/4/14, Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com wrote: Just I was wondering how many of you are missing their old nokia Symbian phones after shifting to touchscreen world? Because Symbian is not choice either for future but still I love Symbian and will be missing when I will be losing it. -- Mohib Anwar Rafel M.Phil 2011, LL.M 2013 Ph.D Candidate, at Jawaharlal Nehru University Delhi, India Phone: 09211192333, 0926800 Skype: mohibrafel Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- thanks and regards your'sPRABHU K. phone: +91 8464070041 b com corperate and secretaryship loyola college, chennai you can give me a personal message by clicking the link below!! kota.pra...@gmail.com skype me! prabhu.95 lets connect on facebook: https://facebook.com/kota.prabhu?v=inforefid=17ref=pymk 99% of our problems are caused by 1% of our carelessness and negligance Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI
Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone?
What to comment regarding this post, symbian is my true girl friend. I can not divorce with her. -Original Message- From: Mobile.accessindia [mailto:mobile.accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Prabhu Kota Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 1:16 PM To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phonesand Tabs. Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? thats why i have both! On 04/10/2014, ishita kapoor ishitakapoor...@gmail.com wrote: hi mohip, if i will get a good phone with keypad i will never miss simbian. as i love android really. but at the time of typing long message or mail miss simbian phone just because of keypad. On 10/4/14, Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com wrote: Just I was wondering how many of you are missing their old nokia Symbian phones after shifting to touchscreen world? Because Symbian is not choice either for future but still I love Symbian and will be missing when I will be losing it. -- Mohib Anwar Rafel M.Phil 2011, LL.M 2013 Ph.D Candidate, at Jawaharlal Nehru University Delhi, India Phone: 09211192333, 0926800 Skype: mohibrafel Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.or g.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.or g.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- thanks and regards your'sPRABHU K. phone: +91 8464070041 b com corperate and secretaryship loyola college, chennai you can give me a personal message by clicking the link below!! kota.pra...@gmail.com skype me! prabhu.95 lets connect on facebook: https://facebook.com/kota.prabhu?v=inforefid=17ref=pymk 99% of our problems are caused by 1% of our carelessness and negligance Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.or g.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone?
Nope, I don't miss it at all. That is because I still use my Nokia C500. Mujtaba Merchant Bangalore, India Motivation is what gets you started, habit is what keeps you going. ~ Jim Rohn -Original Message- From: Mobile.accessindia [mailto:mobile.accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Mohib Anwar Rafel Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 12:51 PM To: mobile.accessindia Subject: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? Just I was wondering how many of you are missing their old nokia Symbian phones after shifting to touchscreen world? Because Symbian is not choice either for future but still I love Symbian and will be missing when I will be losing it. -- Mohib Anwar Rafel M.Phil 2011, LL.M 2013 Ph.D Candidate, at Jawaharlal Nehru University Delhi, India Phone: 09211192333, 0926800 Skype: mohibrafel Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.or g.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone?
Whatever additional features Androit may offer, Symbion will remain predominent in our memory as far as accessibility and ease of use is concerned for a VI user... Some of the major issues with Androit phones which bothers me a lot are: 1. I can not use it with single hand as in the case in my Nokia N-79. 2. Typing long messages and sending it to multiple recipients is always a challenge in Androit. Specially, when I type a msg and scrol my 700 contacts for selecting 50-100 recipients out of them. On 10/4/14, Mister CANE mujta...@gmail.com wrote: Nope, I don't miss it at all. That is because I still use my Nokia C500. Mujtaba Merchant Bangalore, India Motivation is what gets you started, habit is what keeps you going. ~ Jim Rohn -Original Message- From: Mobile.accessindia [mailto:mobile.accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Mohib Anwar Rafel Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 12:51 PM To: mobile.accessindia Subject: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? Just I was wondering how many of you are missing their old nokia Symbian phones after shifting to touchscreen world? Because Symbian is not choice either for future but still I love Symbian and will be missing when I will be losing it. -- Mohib Anwar Rafel M.Phil 2011, LL.M 2013 Ph.D Candidate, at Jawaharlal Nehru University Delhi, India Phone: 09211192333, 0926800 Skype: mohibrafel Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.or g.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- Thanks and regards Himanshu Sahu Reach: 09051055000 Skype: himanshu.cute4u Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone?
Yes very much. This is so because; the ease and total control which you could get in the symbian phone is not possible in the Android phone. The option key, the menu key and the arrow keys give you full control over the symbian phone. The typing eas in the Symbian phone is wonderful. In the symbian phone the full phone could be operated with one hand with your single thumb, whereas, in Android you require using both hands and more fingers. Some say that they do everything just with one hand, but that is an exception and not a rule. The main problem with the android phones is that the location of different buttons such as delete button and more options button in different operations is not fixed, and you take a lot of time to locate them. Further more, many of the buttons are not labled. The number of screens also add to our problems, All these problems are not there in the Symbian. Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar Telephone: 0251-2438457 Mobile: +91 9920410788 Skype ID- sayanekar - Original Message - From: Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com To: mobile.accessindia mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 12:51 PM Subject: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? Just I was wondering how many of you are missing their old nokia Symbian phones after shifting to touchscreen world? Because Symbian is not choice either for future but still I love Symbian and will be missing when I will be losing it. -- Mohib Anwar Rafel M.Phil 2011, LL.M 2013 Ph.D Candidate, at Jawaharlal Nehru University Delhi, India Phone: 09211192333, 0926800 Skype: mohibrafel Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone?
My Nokia N79 got permanently damaged last month. Though I am using moto g since last 4 months, but I haven't gained full confidence to make it as my primary device. I managed to get a nokia C5 and loving it. The ease of dialing numbers on Symbian, writing messages, adding multiple recipients to message, using it single handedly, using it perfectly at crowded places, using it as quickly as a sighted user could do and knowing the status of battery and signals are some of few features those completely missing in android. I can not use my android as faster as a sighted user can, while a Symbian phone I could operate faster than a sighted user. I think it is true sence of accessibility. On 10/4/14, Shyam M. Sayanekar sayane...@gmail.com wrote: Yes very much. This is so because; the ease and total control which you could get in the symbian phone is not possible in the Android phone. The option key, the menu key and the arrow keys give you full control over the symbian phone. The typing eas in the Symbian phone is wonderful. In the symbian phone the full phone could be operated with one hand with your single thumb, whereas, in Android you require using both hands and more fingers. Some say that they do everything just with one hand, but that is an exception and not a rule. The main problem with the android phones is that the location of different buttons such as delete button and more options button in different operations is not fixed, and you take a lot of time to locate them. Further more, many of the buttons are not labled. The number of screens also add to our problems, All these problems are not there in the Symbian. Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar Telephone: 0251-2438457 Mobile: +91 9920410788 Skype ID- sayanekar - Original Message - From: Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com To: mobile.accessindia mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 12:51 PM Subject: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? Just I was wondering how many of you are missing their old nokia Symbian phones after shifting to touchscreen world? Because Symbian is not choice either for future but still I love Symbian and will be missing when I will be losing it. -- Mohib Anwar Rafel M.Phil 2011, LL.M 2013 Ph.D Candidate, at Jawaharlal Nehru University Delhi, India Phone: 09211192333, 0926800 Skype: mohibrafel Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- Mohib Anwar Rafel M.Phil 2011, LL.M 2013 Ph.D Candidate, at Jawaharlal Nehru University Delhi, India Phone: 09211192333, 0926800 Skype: mohibrafel Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone?
I suppose it is not really the platform we should be struggling for, rather it is keypad versus touch interface, so symbian is not really the question but the touch interface. Since Symbian is primarily associated with the keypad interface and Android with touch interface, we've started labeling the OS instead of the structure of a phone in terms of accessibility and comfortability... - Original Message - From: Shyam M. Sayanekar sayane...@gmail.com To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobilephonesand Tabs. mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? Yes very much. This is so because; the ease and total control which you could get in the symbian phone is not possible in the Android phone. The option key, the menu key and the arrow keys give you full control over the symbian phone. The typing eas in the Symbian phone is wonderful. In the symbian phone the full phone could be operated with one hand with your single thumb, whereas, in Android you require using both hands and more fingers. Some say that they do everything just with one hand, but that is an exception and not a rule. The main problem with the android phones is that the location of different buttons such as delete button and more options button in different operations is not fixed, and you take a lot of time to locate them. Further more, many of the buttons are not labled. The number of screens also add to our problems, All these problems are not there in the Symbian. Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar Telephone: 0251-2438457 Mobile: +91 9920410788 Skype ID- sayanekar - Original Message - From: Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com To: mobile.accessindia mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 12:51 PM Subject: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? Just I was wondering how many of you are missing their old nokia Symbian phones after shifting to touchscreen world? Because Symbian is not choice either for future but still I love Symbian and will be missing when I will be losing it. -- Mohib Anwar Rafel M.Phil 2011, LL.M 2013 Ph.D Candidate, at Jawaharlal Nehru University Delhi, India Phone: 09211192333, 0926800 Skype: mohibrafel Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone?
true. if physical keyboard is attached to android phone, it will be most accessible phone. On 10/4/14, Vikas Kapoor dl.vi...@gmail.com wrote: I suppose it is not really the platform we should be struggling for, rather it is keypad versus touch interface, so symbian is not really the question but the touch interface. Since Symbian is primarily associated with the keypad interface and Android with touch interface, we've started labeling the OS instead of the structure of a phone in terms of accessibility and comfortability... - Original Message - From: Shyam M. Sayanekar sayane...@gmail.com To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobilephonesand Tabs. mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? Yes very much. This is so because; the ease and total control which you could get in the symbian phone is not possible in the Android phone. The option key, the menu key and the arrow keys give you full control over the symbian phone. The typing eas in the Symbian phone is wonderful. In the symbian phone the full phone could be operated with one hand with your single thumb, whereas, in Android you require using both hands and more fingers. Some say that they do everything just with one hand, but that is an exception and not a rule. The main problem with the android phones is that the location of different buttons such as delete button and more options button in different operations is not fixed, and you take a lot of time to locate them. Further more, many of the buttons are not labled. The number of screens also add to our problems, All these problems are not there in the Symbian. Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar Telephone: 0251-2438457 Mobile: +91 9920410788 Skype ID- sayanekar - Original Message - From: Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com To: mobile.accessindia mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 12:51 PM Subject: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? Just I was wondering how many of you are missing their old nokia Symbian phones after shifting to touchscreen world? Because Symbian is not choice either for future but still I love Symbian and will be missing when I will be losing it. -- Mohib Anwar Rafel M.Phil 2011, LL.M 2013 Ph.D Candidate, at Jawaharlal Nehru University Delhi, India Phone: 09211192333, 0926800 Skype: mohibrafel Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- Mohib Anwar Rafel M.Phil 2011, LL.M 2013 Ph.D Candidate, at Jawaharlal Nehru University Delhi, India Phone: 09211192333, 0926800 Skype: mohibrafel Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1
Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone?
i am sure indian jugad will ultimately provide a solution!!! smiles!!! - Original Message - From: Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phonesand Tabs. mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2014 12:25 AM Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? true. if physical keyboard is attached to android phone, it will be most accessible phone. On 10/4/14, Vikas Kapoor dl.vi...@gmail.com wrote: I suppose it is not really the platform we should be struggling for, rather it is keypad versus touch interface, so symbian is not really the question but the touch interface. Since Symbian is primarily associated with the keypad interface and Android with touch interface, we've started labeling the OS instead of the structure of a phone in terms of accessibility and comfortability... - Original Message - From: Shyam M. Sayanekar sayane...@gmail.com To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobilephonesand Tabs. mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? Yes very much. This is so because; the ease and total control which you could get in the symbian phone is not possible in the Android phone. The option key, the menu key and the arrow keys give you full control over the symbian phone. The typing eas in the Symbian phone is wonderful. In the symbian phone the full phone could be operated with one hand with your single thumb, whereas, in Android you require using both hands and more fingers. Some say that they do everything just with one hand, but that is an exception and not a rule. The main problem with the android phones is that the location of different buttons such as delete button and more options button in different operations is not fixed, and you take a lot of time to locate them. Further more, many of the buttons are not labled. The number of screens also add to our problems, All these problems are not there in the Symbian. Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar Telephone: 0251-2438457 Mobile: +91 9920410788 Skype ID- sayanekar - Original Message - From: Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com To: mobile.accessindia mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 12:51 PM Subject: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? Just I was wondering how many of you are missing their old nokia Symbian phones after shifting to touchscreen world? Because Symbian is not choice either for future but still I love Symbian and will be missing when I will be losing it. -- Mohib Anwar Rafel M.Phil 2011, LL.M 2013 Ph.D Candidate, at Jawaharlal Nehru University Delhi, India Phone: 09211192333, 0926800 Skype: mohibrafel Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- Mohib Anwar Rafel M.Phil 2011, LL.M 2013 Ph.D Candidate, at Jawaharlal Nehru University Delhi, India Phone: 09211192333, 0926800 Skype: mohibrafel Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com
