Re: Apache V2 and Mod_Perl Question

2001-07-05 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 04:46 PM 7/5/2001 -0500, Purcell, Scott wrote: Hello, NT question. I believe that Apache 2 is out for NT, and was wondering if apache 2 works with mod_perl? I am running Apache 1.3.20 and mod_perl 1.25_01-dev. Can or should we start converting to Apache 2? Just curous about some time frames

Re: [OT]: Re: Just a few good men? Was: ignored (again)

2001-07-06 Thread Gunther Birznieks
PROTECTED]Gunther Birznieks To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Matt Sergeant ; mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Joachim Zobel Cc: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 6:24 AM Subject: [OT]: Re: Just a few good men? Was: ignored (again) At 07:44 AM 7/5/2001 +, Matt Sergeant wrote

Re: rand bug?

2001-07-06 Thread Gunther Birznieks
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Re: Apache::SimpleTemplate

2001-07-08 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 06:16 PM 7/7/2001 -0700, brian moseley wrote: On 7 Jul 2001, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Yes. Writing a templating system in Perl is trivial. Writing a *useful* templating system in Perl is demonstratably hard. unless you keep application features in a separate layer from the templating

OT: Re: ApacheCon Dublin Cancelled?

2001-07-15 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 03:44 PM 7/15/2001 +0100, Matt Sergeant wrote: Looks like Camelot, the organisers of ApacheCon (and other conferences, such as XML Dev Con - a conference I've spoken at a number of times), are going out of business. Those of you who know the employees at Camelot will Odd, I got the letter for

RE: BOF?

2001-07-16 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 01:19 PM 7/14/2001 -0400, Geoffrey Young wrote: -Original Message- From: Ken Williams To: modperl Sent: 7/14/01 11:48 AM Subject: BOF? Yo, I just noticed that there's no mod_perl BOF listed at http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/os2001/pub/10/bofs.html . Is one

Re: BOF?

2001-07-16 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 12:10 AM 7/16/2001 -0500, James G Smith wrote: Matt Sergeant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 14 Jul 2001, brian moseley wrote: On Sat, 14 Jul 2001, Ken Williams wrote: I just noticed that there's no mod_perl BOF listed at

Re: OT: Re: ApacheCon Dublin Cancelled?

2001-07-17 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 11:31 AM 7/16/2001 -0700, Bill Moseley wrote: At 10:46 AM 07/16/01 -0600, Nathan Torkington wrote: Are there any requests other than price for next year? What would you like to see? What could you do without? Well, this is more along the price issue that you don't want to hear about, but

Re: OT: Re: ApacheCon Dublin Cancelled?

2001-07-17 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 10:46 AM 7/16/2001 -0600, you wrote: Matt Sergeant writes: I doubt it's the last one we'll see fall... I suspect TPC will be a shadow of its former self... :( for four years arguing that it should be cheaper. If you feel that there'd be more attendees at a lower price, then I suggest you

Re: cgi-lib.pl

2001-07-24 Thread Gunther Birznieks
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] RoboWeb 1.0b, web application test suite generator

2001-07-24 Thread Gunther Birznieks
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Re: [OT] Using mod_proxy and mod_ssl to forward SSL connections

2001-07-25 Thread Gunther Birznieks
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Re: [OT] Using mod_proxy and mod_ssl to forward SSL connections

2001-07-25 Thread Gunther Birznieks
audience. --Anonymous Moving the mouse won't get you into trouble... Clicking it might. --Anonymous PGP Key 0xE0FA561B - Fingerprint: 7E18 C018 D623 A57B 7F37 D902 8C84 7675 E0FA 561B __ Gunther Birznieks ([EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [OT] Using mod_proxy and mod_ssl to forward SSL connections

2001-07-25 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 01:19 AM 7/26/2001 +0200, Issac Goldstand wrote: [snipped] I see what you mean. I'm not dealing with client certs (yet), and I'm thinking that when the system that I'm testing now goes production, it'll be a front-end SSL, back-end non-SSL sorta deal... But that won't work for now due to

Re: Not embedding SQL in perl (was RE: [OT] Inspired by closing comments from the UBB thread.)

2001-08-01 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 02:44 PM 8/1/2001 -0700, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote: On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Gunther Birznieks wrote: When you've had your fill of wrestling over mySQL vs PostGres and stored procs versus inline SQL (I know I have long ago) You guys should definitely read the following: http

Re: require v.s. do in modperl

2001-08-01 Thread Gunther Birznieks
$dbh when Crequire 'db.pl'; is called. What should I do? __ Gunther Birznieks ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) eXtropia - The Open Web Technology Company http://www.eXtropia.com/

Re: require v.s. do in modperl

2001-08-01 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 07:16 PM 8/1/2001 -0400, Perrin Harkins wrote: I have a CGI application where I do: require 'db.pl'; where db.pl defines some functions and variables related to connecting to the database, and then executes C$dbh = DBI-connect(...). snip I can get around this by changing

Re: require v.s. do in modperl

2001-08-01 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 07:18 PM 8/1/2001 -0700, Nick Tonkin wrote: On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Philip Mak wrote: I have a CGI application where I do: require 'db.pl'; where db.pl defines some functions and variables related to connecting to the database, and then executes C$dbh = DBI-connect(...). I tried

Re: Apache::DBI in startup.pl generating error

2001-08-03 Thread Gunther Birznieks
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RE: Apache::DBI in startup.pl generating error

2001-08-03 Thread Gunther Birznieks
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Re: odd behavior with Cache::Cache

2001-08-05 Thread Gunther Birznieks
scenario. I would be curious to hear about some real world (as opposed to academic) scenarios about it being an issue. Later, Gunther __ Gunther Birznieks ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) eXtropia - The Open Web Technology Company http://www.eXtropia.com/

Re: Augmenting CPAN with P2EE specs, was CPAN polution

2001-08-13 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 12:10 PM 8/11/2001 -0400, Stephen Adkins wrote: Hi, At 04:42 PM 8/11/2001 +0200, Elizabeth Mattijsen wrote: At 09:26 AM 8/11/01 -0500, Jim Smith wrote: If we want better QA, I'd propose requiring approval from someone on that list before a module is put anywhere in the heirarchy other than

Re: my() [very off topic]

2001-08-14 Thread Gunther Birznieks
? This is rather off topic for mod_perl and should (imho) belong on a perl list instead. Can I request any followups be taken to private mail or a more suitable list? Thanks, Dave __ Gunther Birznieks ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) eXtropia - The Open Web Technology

Re: Path Issue mod_perl vs cgi-bin?

2001-08-19 Thread Gunther Birznieks
. eg #!/usr/bin/perl is resolved by default ( I think ) to c:\usr\bin\perl.exe So you may wish to be truly explicit and use #!c:\perl\bin\perl.exe Instead... (You may have to escape the \ but I forget). Thanks, Scott Purcell __ Gunther Birznieks

Re: [OT] compilers for c Appache modules

2001-08-19 Thread Gunther Birznieks
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] TicketMaster.com sponsors mod_perl development

2001-09-20 Thread Gunther Birznieks
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Re: [VOT] What hourly rate to charge for programming?

2001-10-02 Thread Gunther Birznieks
Hey guys..MASSIVELY OFF TOPIC!! :( :( :( At 12:24 AM 10/3/2001 -0400, Michael Bacarella wrote: I've had about two years of experience with perl, and one year of experience with mod_perl and MySQL. I've been doing contract programming jobs for people and charged by the hour. The

Re: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-19 Thread Gunther Birznieks
://www.perl.com/pub/a/2001/10/17/etoys.html Yup, this is an excellent read. Thanks Perrin. Greg __ Gunther Birznieks ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) eXtropia - The Open Web Technology Company http://www.eXtropia.com/

RE: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-23 Thread Gunther Birznieks
with all the support. __ Gunther Birznieks ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) eXtropia - The Open Web Technology Company http://www.eXtropia.com/

Re: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-23 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 08:46 PM 10/23/2001, Rob Nagler wrote: is easier and more standardized, and well documented. But I feel like coding front-end web applications is much easier in Perl where the workflow bits change all the time. For this, I like using SOAP on the backend Java server and SOAP on the

Re: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-23 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 09:45 PM 10/23/2001, Perrin Harkins wrote: Matt Sergeant wrote: OK, so what are we missing? Based on the comments I've seen here over the years, and some on Slashdot, the thing that seems to worry people the most is the lack of an obvious message queue API in Perl. I've seen plenty of

Re: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-23 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 10:36 PM 10/23/2001, Leon Brocard wrote: Perrin Harkins sent the following bits through the ether: Perhaps a port of JMS is in order. Interestingly, I've been thinking along the same lines. Spread (http://www.spread.org/) can be used for the publish/subscribe messaging domain but queueing

Re: [OT] P2EE Redux was: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-23 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 03:38 AM 10/24/2001, Stephen Adkins wrote: At 02:28 PM 10/23/2001 -0400, Perrin Harkins wrote: Stephen Adkins wrote: If no one suggests an appropriate list, I propose starting a p2ee group Can I just say that P2EE is a horrible, horrible name? It includes the Java version number

Re: [OT] P2EE Redux was: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-28 Thread Gunther Birznieks
One important thing THERE IS ALREADY A P5EE MAILING LIST GUYS!! :) So basically if you want to add your feedback, go there! It's already done but it's not too late to add feedback. :) email ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 08:36 AM 10/29/2001, Medi Montaseri wrote: Similarly, this concept of

Re: [OT] Re: Seeking Legal help

2001-11-22 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 01:34 AM 11/23/2001, Mark Maunder wrote: Matt Sergeant wrote: Step three: Once you've given them 90 days after date of invoice, get a solicitor (not a barrister) to draft a threatening letter. It'll cost you about $100. I'm afraid you'll have to give them another 30 days at this

Re: [OT] What hourly rate to charge for programming?

2001-10-10 Thread Gunther Birznieks
C'mon guys remember to add OT to your off topic messages! It's not that hard. :) At 05:14 PM 10/10/2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to know where I can get paid more than AU$10/hour (US$4.90 to US$5 per hour) for my mod_perl programming... You guys in America get $100US per hour?! My

Re: Catching user-presses-stop early

2001-10-12 Thread Gunther Birznieks
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Re: Mod_perl component based architecture

2001-10-16 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 11:13 PM 10/16/01, Dominique Quatravaux wrote: also does modperl support object oriented programming? Well yes it does indeed (see any good book on Perl, such as «advanced Perl programming» from O'Reilly). As for the remaining of the question, I've been wondering for myself if there

Re: Mod_perl component based architecture

2001-10-16 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 01:28 PM 10/17/01, Ilya Martynov wrote: On Tue, 16 Oct 2001 22:07:47 -0500 (CDT), Dave Rolsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: DR On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Gunther Birznieks wrote: I would venture to say that some of the mod_perl-only toolkits have some cases of being better designed than ours

Re: transient object data

2001-12-22 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 10:19 PM 12/22/2001, DeWitt Clinton wrote: On Sat, Dec 22, 2001 at 06:11:33AM -0800, brian moseley wrote: doesn't it seem like there should be a way to denote object data as transient so that it doesn't get serialized by Storable, etc? I'd love that as well. For example, when

Re: Cache::Cache locking

2001-12-22 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 10:55 PM 12/22/2001, brian moseley wrote: Apache::Singleton::Server got me thinking about Cache::Cache and locking again. if i'm going to have a server-global object, i am going to need to protect against multiple processes updating it simultaneously, right? we've already talked about this

Re: transient object data

2001-12-22 Thread Gunther Birznieks
to the discussion of what a Perl bean would be like and how different it should be from Java. __ Gunther Birznieks ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) eXtropia - The Open Web Technology Company http://www.eXtropia.com/

Re: Fast template system

2001-12-30 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 05:05 AM 12/31/2001, Ryan Thompson wrote: I've looked at TT (and have heard it's praises sung), but it requires Perl 5.6.0, which is, unfortunately, not yet stable on all of the production systems my projects are deployed on. The syntax and features look about right, though... So it is

Re: kylix: rad!

2002-01-13 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 06:16 AM 1/14/2002, brian moseley wrote: On Sun, 13 Jan 2002, Sam Tregar wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2002, Perrin Harkins wrote: Well, does this product actually have any users to compete for? GUI builders usually don't work for anything but the most trivial websites that could be

Re: Single login/sign-on for different web apps?

2002-01-16 Thread Gunther Birznieks
Of course, the best authentication system for banking I've seen is from UBS. They send you a scratchlist of around 100 numbers. Every time you login you use one of the numbers and cross it off. Very slick. Does that really work in practice? That sounds really annoying. Is this for business

Re: UI Regression Testing

2002-01-25 Thread Gunther Birznieks
I suppose it depends on what you want out of testing. Frequently, unit testing is OK in simple applications. But in an application whose job it is to communicate with a mainframe or back-end databases, frequently the tests you might perform are based on some previous persistent state of the

Re: UI Regression Testing

2002-01-26 Thread Gunther Birznieks
. But is it worth all the extra coding time for those tests? I don't think so. Not for all APIs. To each his own I guess. I agree with tests for some things, just not for all things including not all APIs. At 08:59 AM 1/26/2002, Rob Nagler wrote: Gunther Birznieks writes: the database to perform a test

Re: New mod_perl Logo

2002-01-29 Thread Gunther Birznieks
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Re: New mod_perl Logo

2002-01-31 Thread Gunther Birznieks
, Exsight, Insite, HowtoSite - I really do not mind. Regards - Paul Cotter __ Gunther Birznieks ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) eXtropia - The Open Web Technology Company http://www.eXtropia.com/

Re: New mod_perl Logo

2002-01-31 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 04:50 PM 1/31/2002, brian moseley wrote: On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Paul Cotter wrote: Give it some other marketting name, even if it keeps its original name in places like this. didn't you people read perrin's message? do you think this is the first time this topic has been discussed? do

Re: [ANNOUNCE] The New mod_perl logo - results now in...

2002-03-15 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 10:46 PM 3/15/2002, John Saylor wrote: Hi ( 02.03.15 10:03 - ) Jonathan M. Hollin: However, I request your comments on this idea: should we have just one button (helping to develop a distinct identity for mod_perl) or should we have several (for choice)? It's up to you...

RE: OSC early bird and mod_perl T-Shirts

2002-06-11 Thread Gunther Birznieks
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Re: separating C from V in MVC

2002-06-13 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 12:58 PM 6/14/2002, Dave Rolsky wrote: On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Rob Nagler wrote: I'm not a big fan of O/R. I prefer R/O. But to each their own. Would one of you mind providing a 1 paragraph definition of each? I am afraid that I am starting to get lost in the semantic differences of

Re: Knowing your limitation - was Re: [JOB] Crack OOP Perl whitebox tester wanted

2002-06-21 Thread Gunther Birznieks
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Re: ANNOUNCE: the new perl.apache.org is alive now!

2002-07-12 Thread Gunther Birznieks
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Getting to the Guide PDF on the new website

2002-07-16 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 09:24 PM 7/13/2002, Stas Bekman wrote: Gunther Birznieks wrote: I agree! It is great work. It looks really slick. :) Unfortunately, the mod_perl guide documentation area has lost functionality. I wanted to download the latest guide before my 23 hour flight to the USA (to read on the flight

Re: Mixing TOMCAT and mod_perl sessions

2002-08-12 Thread Gunther Birznieks
shared between the two. Preferably, using files (and not mysql). Thanks, Yair Lenga __ Gunther Birznieks ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) eXtropia - The Open Web Technology Company http://www.eXtropia.com/ Office: (65) 64791172 Mobile: (65) 96218290

OT: Re: Hoping you could give advice

2002-09-20 Thread Gunther Birznieks
Todd Cranston-Cuebas wrote: Any other thoughts? Yeah, this is off topic, please label it as such. :)

Re: Yahoo is moving to PHP ??

2002-10-30 Thread Gunther Birznieks
You would think if they want an anal scripting language they would move to python not PHP. :) John Saylor wrote: Hi ( 02.10.30 03:22 -0500 ) Perrin Harkins: They didn't make their decision on performance though. They seem to have been most influenced by the idea that perl

Re: References for modperl usage in financial institutions?

2002-11-19 Thread Gunther Birznieks
Does it have to be mod_perl in order to help your case? I gave a talk on Perl being used for webapps for investment banking at the 1999 Perl Conference and Morgan Stanley allowed a champion of Perl deliver a keynote at the OReilly Open Source Conference in the year 2000. But neither of us

Re: Perl Cookbook modperl chapter

2002-12-11 Thread Gunther Birznieks
Nick, I think you raise valid points that I think Nathan and the reviewers should take on board when they do this chapter and subsequently review it. However... 1) I believe that rather than entirely naysay that some common cookbook items can be covered in a mod_perl chapter, I would prefer

Re: Perl Cookbook modperl chapter

2002-12-16 Thread Gunther Birznieks
Stas Bekman wrote: Hill, Ronald wrote: It's much simpler than that. You need two sentences: 1) under mod_perl, globals remember their values from the previous request, so you can cache the connection with: $dbh ||= myconnect(); But Apache::DBI implements pinging (immediate or timing

Re: Database Pooling

2002-12-23 Thread Gunther Birznieks
If I recall correctly, Jeffrey Baker (author of Apache::Session) wrote an extremely lucid and well thought out argument about why the way mod_perl pools connections is just as well as Java in reality. Try searching for his name in the mod_perl list archives.. I think he wrote this over a year

Re: OSCON ideas - MVC talk

2003-01-09 Thread Gunther Birznieks
Andy Wardley wrote: Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote: I am planning to submit a proposal for a introduction talk on MVC in a web environment. [...] Like Perrin I would like feedback on the idea before putting in my proposal. I like the sound of it, but I should warn you that I have a personal

Re: OSCON ideas - more talk ideas

2003-01-09 Thread Gunther Birznieks
Nigel Hamilton wrote: HI, I'd really like to see talks on: 1. Web Server Compression - a comparison, between mod_gzip, DynaGzip Compress etc, pros / cons, SSL compression, and example configurations 2. Application Server Options - a comparison between pure-perl, Apache/mod_perl, POE,

Re: OSCON ideas

2003-01-09 Thread Gunther Birznieks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if telecommuting plus occasional travel for face-to-face would sell better than pure telecommuting. Is this done very often in telecommute situations? This is exactly what I hope to propose if the need arises in my situation. Would love to hear from

Re: OSCON ideas - missing proceedings

2003-01-10 Thread Gunther Birznieks
Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Nathan == Nathan Torkington [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nathan Not for two years at least (the duration of the contract with the Nathan Portland hotel). The San Diego hotel was much more expensive and Nathan remote, compared to the Portland hotel. I think people are

Re: speeding up CGI.pm

2003-03-24 Thread Gunther Birznieks
Stas Bekman wrote: While we are at the CGI.pm issue, I was thinking that those who stick with CGI.pm because of its extended all-in-one functionality (request parsing/ HTML generation), but unhappy about request parsing speed, could benefit by integrating Apache::Request in CGI.pm to do the

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