Script to find Module Dependency Test Results...

2004-07-22 Thread Robert Rothenberg
I have a prototype Perl script that will determine the dependencies of a given CPAN distribution, and then check CPAN Testers for any failure reports of that distro or dependent distros for a given platform. I would like to work with other people to turn this into something of use to the

Re: [Module::Build] requires_one_of

2004-07-22 Thread Robert Rothenberg
On 7/18/2004 5:14 AM Smylers wrote: [...] Rather than the dependent app (or module) having a list alternatives that are known to work, it could instead depend on some 'abstract' package. Other distros are then able to say that they 'provide' that abstract package. So if another module is

Re: Future of the Module List

2004-07-22 Thread Chris Josephes
So, if I want to write a review of Net::SMTP, I'd do the following. 1. Use Module::Build, or ExtUtils::MakeMaker to create Review::Net::SMTP::CHRISJ, or whatever. 2. Make sure I have my README.txt, CHANGES, and MANIFEST file. 3. Write my review in POD format, and throw in some META.yml indexing

Re: CPAN Rating

2004-07-22 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (A. Pagaltzis) writes: * Nicholas Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-06-16 21:24]: Well, I guess to run a patched version of search.cpan.org on your local system you need to start by running an unpatched version of search.cpan.org. I'm not sure whether the source to it is

Re: CPAN Rating Wrap up

2004-07-22 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Khemir Nadim) writes: - We have troubles finding out who is holding onto the code, were it is and how to change it. Which site are you talking about then? Surely it can't be http://cpanratings.perl.org. If you click on a random link in the menu bar (there are 3) you have a

Re: Future of the Module List

2004-07-22 Thread Ken Williams
On Jul 20, 2004, at 11:57 AM, Chris Josephes wrote: So, if I want to write a review of Net::SMTP, I'd do the following. 1. Use Module::Build, or ExtUtils::MakeMaker to create Review::Net::SMTP::CHRISJ, or whatever. 2. Make sure I have my README.txt, CHANGES, and MANIFEST file. 3. Write my review

Re: source for search.cpan.org

2004-07-22 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# The following was supposedly scribed by # Randy W. Sims # on Thursday 22 July 2004 04:50 pm: Ask posted with information about where to find the source for CPAN Ratings, But, most of the interface improvements (IMO) need to be done to search.cpan.org. I found

Re: Future of the Module List

2004-07-22 Thread John Siracusa
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 13:50:37 -0500, Ken Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was sort of hoping this idea would just die on its own, but now it looks like people are actually getting ready to do it. In my opinion this is a bad idea. I don't want a bunch of reviews all over CPAN disguising

Re: Future of the Module List

2004-07-22 Thread Chris Josephes
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, Ken Williams wrote: I was sort of hoping this idea would just die on its own, but now it looks like people are actually getting ready to do it. In my opinion this is a bad idea. I don't want a bunch of reviews all over CPAN disguising themselves as modules. I also

Re: Ratings and Reviews ne Modules

2004-07-22 Thread Elaine -HFB- Ashton
Eric Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth: * *ok, now we see the ratings, click-through to get reviews... * http://cpanratings.perl.org/d/CGI.pm * *Or do we? I get a 404. Not much use. Well, that's an error and one you should take up with the people who run the rantings pages at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Ratings and Reviews ne Modules

2004-07-22 Thread Christopher Hicks
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, Eric Wilhelm wrote: Okay, but we have requirements for both search.cpan.org and cpanratings.perl.org, right? Yes. cpanratings could display more in depth statistics of the various modules and also allow for being to view a module as a whole and not just one particular

Re: Ratings and Reviews ne Modules

2004-07-22 Thread Austin Schutz
On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 03:26:56PM -0500, Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote: *Finally, here we are at a page with reviews. Frankly, I've never seen one of *these before, and I can't say that this one really does me a huge amount of *good. I'm much better served by reading the documentation (which

Re: Ratings and Reviews ne Modules

2004-07-22 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, Randy W. Sims wrote: Agreed. Reviews as modules is not the best solution. CPAN does one thing and does it well. Adding reviews as modules is likely to cause more problems that it solves. Do we really need reviews ? I am afraid not many people will take the time to do a

Re: Ratings and Reviews ne Modules

2004-07-22 Thread Christopher Hicks
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Gabor Szabo wrote: Do we really need reviews ? Short of some better sort of solution for helping guide people to the better choices of modules. I am afraid not many people will take the time to do a deep analyzis of a module. It doesn't take many people to provide a

Re: Ratings and Reviews ne Modules

2004-07-22 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Austin Schutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-07-23 01:03]: That said, perhaps it would be useful to have a set of standard sort of comments that could be applied to the module, such as some tests don't seem to pass or requires compilation on the target platform, module shares similar functionality

Re: Ratings and Reviews ne Modules

2004-07-22 Thread Randy W. Sims
On 7/22/2004 5:50 PM, Randy W. Sims wrote: We just need to organize and do it. 1st crack at organizing ideas/suggestions made in this thread and in Ask's TODO list. Comments/Omissions? Also available at http://www.thepierianspring.org/perl/cpan-ratings.notes -- I) CPAN Ratings A) Abuse

Re: Ratings and Reviews ne Modules

2004-07-22 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# The following was supposedly scribed by # Randy W. Sims # on Thursday 22 July 2004 07:56 pm: Comments/Omissions I) CPAN Ratings    B) All Reviews Pages (per module):      1) Header with average rating and other summary information. duplicate this in III.B.2 III) Search CPAN:    A) make

Re: Reviewing reviewers

2004-07-22 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# The following was supposedly scribed by # Randy W. Sims # on Thursday 22 July 2004 07:56 pm:    A) Abuse       Authors abusing the system for political statements, to sabatoge       authors of similars modules, etc.      1) The usuall solution is a Karma type system. Number of reviews        

Re: Reviewing reviewers

2004-07-22 Thread Randy W. Sims
On 7/22/2004 11:41 PM, Eric Wilhelm wrote: # The following was supposedly scribed by # Randy W. Sims # on Thursday 22 July 2004 07:56 pm: A) Abuse Authors abusing the system for political statements, to sabatoge authors of similars modules, etc. 1) The usuall solution is a Karma