Re: mon project

2007-08-26 Thread Augie Schwer
On 8/25/07, Jim Trocki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, 25 Aug 2007, Augie Schwer wrote:
  As you can see there is a lot of development in CVS, but there hasn't
  been an official release for a while;
 Except for the one at the end of June which had a significant number of
 improvements, some of which you contributed yourself :)

Ooops. Duh. I wasn't on the mon@ list until recently; it doesn't show
up on the SF.net page:

http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=170

Any chance the freshmeat page will get updated to reflect the new release:

http://freshmeat.net/projects/mon/


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Re: mon project

2007-08-26 Thread Jim Trocki
On Sun, 26 Aug 2007, Augie Schwer wrote:

 Ooops. Duh. I wasn't on the mon@ list until recently; it doesn't show
 up on the SF.net page:

 http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=170

shoot. i used to have a script which would push out any releases or web page
changes to the various places automatically, but since we have the wiki
i didn't bother with it. i guess i'll need to do some housecleaning and
make everything refer to the wiki for information so i don't need to
maintain stuff in a million places. the wiki i like alot, and it makes
it much easier to allow others to participate.

to anyone who spends time editing wikis, i recommend these firefox/mozilla
extensions, which allow you to edit the TEXTAREA in your editor of choice,
and when you save it's automatically updated in the form:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4125

and

http://mozex.mozdev.org/

the inherent editing features most browsers supply are crippling, if anyone's
noticed.

a historical tidbit: the reason why mon has a sourceforge entry in the first
place is because before sf.net even went public, they seeded it with various
projects, and mon was part of the first sowing. it wasn't even my idea :)

 Any chance the freshmeat page will get updated to reflect the new release:

 http://freshmeat.net/projects/mon/

ah, good catch. i'll update that and make it refer to the right place.

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Re: mon project

2007-08-26 Thread Ed Ravin
On Sat, Aug 25, 2007 at 11:55:10AM -0400, Allan Wind wrote:
 On 2007-08-25T06:15:31-0700, Augie Schwer wrote:
  I thought the same way you did a few months ago, that the Mon project
  was dead, but it's not, it's just not very visibly alive. ;)
 
 This is bad when someone evaluate this project.  Can we setup a cvs 
 mailing list that gets the patches, or some type of status report 
 summarizing changes over the last month?

I believe the mon-devel list receives copies of all patches.

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Re: mon project

2007-08-26 Thread Allan Wind
On 2007-08-26T22:18:04-0400, Ed Ravin wrote:
 I believe the mon-devel list receives copies of all patches.

I totally missed the two other mailing lists, so took the liberty to 
update the wiki page to make it a little more obvious.


/Allan

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Re: mon project

2007-08-25 Thread Augie Schwer
On 8/24/07, Chris Hoogendyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ok, I like mon. no bloat. no crud. just does the job. so, in a sense,
 there's no real need for ongoing activity or development -- except that
 the user documentation is sparse or non-existent. Oh, and the name. It
 took me forever to stumble on mon. I'd been looking at hobbit, nagios,
 etc. Searched many times over and wasn't satisfied. Even knowing about
 mon, it's impossible to search for stuff related to it. Is it ever
 mentioned on linuxquestions.org? on sunmanagers list? who knows? can't
 filter for it. oh, but I did mention it the other day on linuxquestions,
 so, yes, it is there.

Part of that I think is because once Mon is deployed somewhere, it
doesn't really need to be modified, it just works, so it's probably
installed in a lot of places and just humming along just fine, so you
don't really hear about it.

Mon is under active development, heck I just checked in a bunch of
patches we had been running not too long ago:

http://sourceforge.net/project/stats/detail.php?group_id=170ugn=montype=cvsmode=60day
http://mon.cvs.sourceforge.net/mon/mon/

As you can see there is a lot of development in CVS, but there hasn't
been an official release for a while; I'm sure when Jim wants to make
an official release, then you'll see a lot more discussion about Mon,
and maybe even some more developers. :)

I thought the same way you did a few months ago, that the Mon project
was dead, but it's not, it's just not very visibly alive. ;)


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Re: mon project

2007-08-25 Thread Allan Wind
On 2007-08-25T06:15:31-0700, Augie Schwer wrote:
 I thought the same way you did a few months ago, that the Mon project
 was dead, but it's not, it's just not very visibly alive. ;)

This is bad when someone evaluate this project.  Can we setup a cvs 
mailing list that gets the patches, or some type of status report 
summarizing changes over the last month?  The wiki page looks good, btw, 
although it would probably be good to add something, anything, as 
the current events page.


/Allan

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Re: mon project

2007-08-25 Thread Jim Trocki
On Sat, 25 Aug 2007, Augie Schwer wrote:

 As you can see there is a lot of development in CVS, but there hasn't
 been an official release for a while;

Except for the one at the end of June which had a significant number of
improvements, some of which you contributed yourself :)

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Re: mon project

2007-08-25 Thread Res
On Sat, 25 Aug 2007, Allan Wind wrote:

 On 2007-08-25T06:15:31-0700, Augie Schwer wrote:
 I thought the same way you did a few months ago, that the Mon project
 was dead, but it's not, it's just not very visibly alive. ;)

 This is bad when someone evaluate this project.  Can we setup a cvs
 mailing list that gets the patches, or some type of status report
 summarizing changes over the last month?  The wiki page looks good, btw,
 although it would probably be good to add something, anything, as
 the current events page.

This can be bad, I for one shy away from software that has releases and 
updates ever few weeks, something that doesnt get updated for a year or 
longer has better chance of being implimented because of what a previous 
poater said, you install Mon, configure Mon, start Mon, and then forget 
about it.

The only time i've touched it in recent times is to add more machines to 
its watch list :)

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Re: mon project

2007-08-24 Thread Res
On Fri, 24 Aug 2007, Chris Hoogendyk wrote:

 I was looking through the wiki, wishing for more detail,
 recommendations, how-to, etc. On a lark, I clicked on edit. It allowed

I agree it lacks some.

 I don't want to step on any toes, but I was wondering . . . if I were to
 add a user documentation section parallel to the man pages and readme,
 would that be approved of? Would others look at it, add to it, correct

I can't see why not, anything that benefits everybody surely must be 
welcome.


(user of mon for many years, tried the rest, stuck with the best)


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