[Mono-docs-list] whats wrong with Accel*.xml?

2004-03-15 Thread Alex Combas
Hi, Im looking through the rest of the Accel* groups xml and some of it seems a bit strange. Shouldnt things like AccelGroupActivate() be in Gtk.Accel? Instead of being directly in the Gtk namespace? Just a thought, I dont really know much about the gtk-sharp overall structure. Also the

Re: [Mono-list] Glade# with Pixmap!?

2004-03-15 Thread Moritz Angermann
ohh well, figured it out myself. Looks like you have to give the pixmap the full path. So instead of image.ext, /path/to/pixmaps/image.ext But this is, in my opinion quite burdensome to rewrite my .glade file each time... anyone? -mo On Mon, 2004-03-15 at 00:24, Moritz Angermann wrote: Hi

RE: [Mono-list] XAML Support ???

2004-03-15 Thread Nick Berardi
Maybe you can talk to this guy over at MyXAML (http://www.myxaml.com/) it looks like he is making an Open Source compiler for XAML that converts the XML into .Net interfaces. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pettibone, Micheal L Sent:

[Mono-list] How to address the Gtk# Thread issue...

2004-03-15 Thread Moritz Angermann
Hi List, Well after asking many stupid question on #mono and #md-devel, and giving google a few shots. I found out a few solutions, with the help of you kind people, Lets assume we Have a widget with a Label and a Button on it as glade file. So in out Main we load it up. The button signal is

Re: [Mono-list] Mono and Patents....

2004-03-15 Thread Andy Lewis
Jonathan - Many thanks for this answer. I suspected this to be the case, but wants confirmation from someone more familiar with it. Jonathan Pryor wrote: On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 14:19, Andy Lewis wrote: snip/ First, regarding Mono licensing. It appears to be a mix of GPL, LGPL, and X11

Re: [Mono-list] Mono Articles

2004-03-15 Thread Matt Ryan
Ben, Anything like this that you (or anyone else on this list for that matter) are seeking to publish, we would love to additionally host them at the Mono community page on Novell Forge (http://forge.novell.com/modules/xfmod/community/?monocomm). -MR [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/14/2004 8:08:29 AM I

Re: [Mono-list] Mono and Patents....

2004-03-15 Thread Andy Lewis
Could you point me to some more information on the upcoming patent review you mention? It may be that this will resolve my questions. In the meantime, I have no immediate compelling need to use Mono, although I do have the interest. While I may invest the time to learn about it, I will most

Re: [Mono-list] Mono and Patents....

2004-03-15 Thread Matt Ryan
Hmm. Actually, what I think it means is that the efforts to assuage the fears of the users in this regard has not had the success we need. I'm not intending to criticize the efforts to clarify this situation up to this point at all - it seems that significant effort has been put into

Re: [Mono-list] XAML Support ???

2004-03-15 Thread Miguel de Icaza
Hello, Has there being any talk of supporting XAML and if so, will this also be implemented in Mozilla so that Linux (and even Windows if you were to run the Mozilla browser on Windows) can reap the benefits of XAML? There has been plenty of talk, see:

Re: [Mono-list] Mono and Patents....

2004-03-15 Thread Miguel de Icaza
Hello, My understanding is that any implementation of the ECMA specifications for the CLI, etc, is known to be covered by patents held by Microsoft. Such a submision is allowable under th eEMCA rules provided that the patents are licensable under Reasonable and Non-discriminatory (RAND).

Re: [Mono-list] Mono and Patents....

2004-03-15 Thread Andy Lewis
OK...before I unsubscribe from this list - a couple of points: - I came here interested in a technology with what I felt was a legitimate concern and most (not all - Andy Satori for example was particularly helpful) of what I have gotten back has been rude and unhelpful. - Your FAQ does NOT

[Mono-list] GUI, threads, etc...

2004-03-15 Thread Moritz Angermann
Ohh well as gunnzi wanted to know if the TreeView widget updates also when the window is not resized. I scribbled up some test application in MD. And to better demonstrate the *autoamtic* update process I tried to bind in my gathered knowledge about ThreadNotify. A copy of the code can be

Re: [Mono-list] Mono and Patents....

2004-03-15 Thread Robert Scott Horning
Miguel de Icaza wrote: Hello, My conceen is that RAND does not imply compatibility iwth the GPL or any other open source license, and I am trying to find out ifth eMono project is specifically licensed for the patents covering the ECMA specification, of simply relying on public statments

Re: [Mono-list] Mono and Patents....

2004-03-15 Thread Alex Combas
*sigh* Dear Mr Troll, Not in any way to slight _your_ career in opensource development, which I am sure is more extensive than my own, but you have just flamed Miguel who is someone everyone here knows and respects for _his_ career in opensource. Miguel is also a _very_ respected community

Re: [Mono-list] XSP stops responding

2004-03-15 Thread David Mitchell
We are aware of this problem (not only codebehind). I think there's already a bug report for it. Is this problem being actively chased? We cannot use XSP or mod_mono for any serious work because it hangs after 10 or so requests (it varies). This is often not even enough to load a whole page. Do

Re: [Mono-list] Mono and Patents....

2004-03-15 Thread gabor
On Mon, 2004-03-15 at 21:23, Alex Combas wrote: *sigh* Dear Mr Troll, ok, it the flames are already burning, this won't hurt more :) Not in any way to slight _your_ career in opensource development, which I am sure is more extensive than my own, but you have just flamed Miguel who is

Re: [Mono-list] Mono and Patents....

2004-03-15 Thread gabor
On Mon, 2004-03-15 at 16:57, Miguel de Icaza wrote: The C# and CLI patents are available under RAND and Royalty Free terms as pointed out in the FAQ (the link to Jim's post) which you said you read a few times (it seems and you still managed to not find this). i've also read it i think twice..

Re: [Mono-list] Mono and Patents....

2004-03-15 Thread Alex Combas
--- Shantanu Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sheesh!! I haven't seen a greater troll on this list than this one. Of course everybody acknowledges the contribution and position of Miguel. But I am sorry to notice that the post by Alex Combas seems to have nothing to do with the main

Re: [Mono-list] Mono and Patents....

2004-03-15 Thread Miguel de Icaza
Hello, i don't think that would be enough for them. they would want to see some more solid evidence. And is was said on the O'Reilly article, and echoed on this discussion (but nobody seems to be paying attention) we are doing a legal review. The legal review is in progress, and there is not

Re: [Mono-list] XSP stops responding

2004-03-15 Thread Gonzalo Paniagua Javier
El lun, 15-03-2004 a las 15:47, David Mitchell escribió: We are aware of this problem (not only codebehind). I think there's already a bug report for it. Is this problem being actively chased? We cannot use XSP or mod_mono for any serious work because it hangs after 10 or so requests

[Mono-list] Do I have to put *partents* here to get attention?

2004-03-15 Thread Moritz Angermann
Hi everybody, I've sent several mail to this mailing list asking for assistance or confirmation. What I received so far was a flamewar about stuff that had already been said or was not going to be answered. I don't know but I understood this mailing list as one about developing with mono. If I'm

[Mono-list] Public Apology....

2004-03-15 Thread Andy Lewis
As I made my comments in public, I will also apologize in public. I am not normally given to flaming or even impolite emails, and the tone and a number of the comments of my previous post were rude, aggressive, offensive and demeaning, for which I offer no excuse, but I do offer my apologies.

Re: [Mono-list] XSP stops responding

2004-03-15 Thread David Mitchell
I don't know if this will have anything to do with it, but all the machines we are running here use RedHat 9. -- David Mitchell Software Engineer Telogis NOTICE: This message (including any attachments) contains CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is

Re: [Mono-list] Do I have to put *partents* here to get attention?

2004-03-15 Thread Robert Shade
:) Yeah, this conversation seems to come up here from time to time. The best places to get info these particular questions would probably be gtk-sharp-list and monodevelop-list (available at http://www.monodevelop.com/lists.aspx). As far as the doc goes, make additions with the things that

Re: [Mono-list] Mono and Patents....

2004-03-15 Thread Richard Norman
Ok, I thought we killed this particular issue a long time ago.. (grin) Here is the take I get from Miguel and someone correct the perception if I am incorrect Your application makes use of the framework not the actual libraries (unless youcreate a librarythat extends an existing one).

Re: [Mono-list] GUI, threads, etc...

2004-03-15 Thread Jonathan Pryor
Below... On Mon, 2004-03-15 at 18:43, Moritz Angermann wrote: snip/ btw: does mono have something like fork( ) or are Threads for this purpose adequate use? A *direct* equivalent to fork(2)? No. The nearest equivalent is System.Diagnostics.Process, which is a fork(2)/exec(3) equivalent.

Re: [Mono-list] GUI, threads, etc...

2004-03-15 Thread Moritz Angermann
Firstly: Thank you! As you might have seen, The basic idea behind this is having a long-time process also update the GUI. Miguel told me to use fork an ThreadNotify. And since I used a Threaded model. I wondered if I were going the complete wrong way... So if using Threads and using them as I

Re: [Mono-list] GUI, threads, etc...

2004-03-15 Thread Marcus
On Monday 15 March 2004 10:52 pm, Jonathan Pryor wrote: A *direct* equivalent to fork(2)? No. The nearest equivalent is System.Diagnostics.Process, which is a fork(2)/exec(3) equivalent. (Minor side question: what would happen if you P/Invoked out to fork(2) in libc.so? Is it safe for

Re: [Mono-list] XSP stops responding

2004-03-15 Thread David Mitchell
Juraj Skripsky wrote: Hi David, What version of glibc do you have? Try updating to the latest version (2.3.2-27.9.7). I've had similar problems with mono on several machines which were all running freshly installed RH9. XSP was hanging sometimes. The same application ran perfectly on two other

Re: [Mono-list] Mono and Patents....

2004-03-15 Thread Pavlica, Nick
I'm sure everyone here is looking forward to the results of the formal review. Will you post it to this list and update the FAQ once it's done. Thanks! -Nick On Mon, 2004-03-15 at 14:41, Miguel de Icaza wrote: Hello, i don't think that would be enough for them. they would want to see some

[Mono-list] XSP Stops responnding

2004-03-15 Thread Ralph Mason
I have been trying to understand the problem with XSP stopping responding. I don't believe it's an XSP problem, I think it's a mono problem. All the managed threads stop running. (I added a monitor thread to XSP). Thus it seems like a deadlock somewhere in mono could be the problem. Another

Re: [Mono-list] Mono and Patents....

2004-03-15 Thread Alex Combas
--- Stuart Ballard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately for you, flames have a funny way of burning down bridges, so I really doubt you will be getting more information from _anyone_ here. I hope not, because I still want to use Mono, and I really hope that *someone* comes up with

Re: [Mono-list] XSP Stops responnding

2004-03-15 Thread David Mitchell
Another symptom I noticed is that putting a broken one in the back ground and then bring it back to the foreground results in: sem_wait in handler failed Aborted Putting a non broken one in the background and then bring it back works with no problem. Following the advice given by Juraj

[Mono-list] Mono 0.31 preview packages.

2004-03-15 Thread Miguel de Icaza
Hello, A preview of the upcoming 0.31 release is available here: http://primates.ximian.com/~miguel/tmp/mono-0.30.99.tar.gz http://primates.ximian.com/~miguel/tmp/mcs-0.30.99.tar.gz You only need the `mono' module to build a working system, but I included the mcs stuff

Re: [Mono-list] Mono and Patents....

2004-03-15 Thread gabor
On Mon, 2004-03-15 at 22:41, Miguel de Icaza wrote: Hello, i don't think that would be enough for them. they would want to see some more solid evidence. And is was said on the O'Reilly article, and echoed on this discussion (but nobody seems to be paying attention) we are doing a legal

[Mono-list] SOAP Server

2004-03-15 Thread robertdunaway
I would like to create an application running on mono which can expose some of its functionality via SOAP. I dont want to force the installation of a web server. Does anyone know how I can make my application act as a SOAP Server on its own behalf? Thanks

[Mono-list] Mono logo

2004-03-15 Thread Marcus Brenneman
The scalable logo provided with Mono seems to have been generated from the raster one, and is of such low quality that it's practically non-scalable. I've taken the liberty of creating a scalable (vector) version of the logo from scratch; I sincerely hope that something like it replaces the

[Mono-list] S390 Interpreter

2004-03-15 Thread Michael McConnell
Title: Message Hi, I've been looking at the great work your doing and I have a question. We currently run an IBM Mainframe within a PC network. We're lookinginto rewriting some of our core software in C# for the .Net platform and hope to be able to run this code on the mainframe too. I

[Mono-list] About killing a thread.

2004-03-15 Thread Antonio Martínez Álvarez
Hello. How do I kill a thread? I have a thread which is always listing a tcp port (blocked), and I want it to termitate when the application exit. Thanks -- Antonio Martínez ___ Mono-list maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Mono-list] Glade# with Pixmap!?

2004-03-15 Thread Moritz Angermann
So this is actually a bug and a bug-report should be filled? Or is this some kind of impossible due to the design? -mo On Mon, 2004-03-15 at 23:27, John Luke wrote: hmm, I think you will do not want not use glade to store the images. At least Glade# doesn't handle the relative paths as you

[Mono-list] XSP stops responding

2004-03-15 Thread Ralph Mason
I have been trying to understand the problem with XSP stopping responding. I don't believe it's an XSP problem, I think it's a mono problem. All the managed threads stop running. (I added a monitor thread to XSP). Thus it seems like a deadlock somewhere in mono could be the problem. Another

[Mono-list] ASP.Net and Mono

2004-03-15 Thread Efren Ramirez Farjat
Can anyone give me a Step by Step to do the implementation of IbuySpy Mono and Apache, i have a Windows Server 2003 with SQL 2000 SP3 thanks _ Do You Yahoo!? La mejor conexión a internet y 25MB extra a tu correo por $100 al mes.

[Mono-list] GC not being called.

2004-03-15 Thread Roberto Jimeno
Hello all, recently I upgraded my RPMs of Mono to the newest version 0.30.2. Unfortunatelly I believe there is a bug in the runtime, because the small program attached to this message don't appear to be calling its method Finalize() even under heavy memory preasure. After receiving some kind