Re: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy

2020-09-08 Thread Tommy Barr 
It is my understanding (though I could be wrong) that with its Managed
Payments eBay will refund all fees where a full refund to the buyer is
given, but not on a partial refund.

On Mon, 7 Sep 2020 at 23:46, John Reid  wrote:

> Hi Helmut
> I think this illustrates my concern. Paypal fees are a lot more than 0.40
> cents for refunds but many sellers are simply not aware of this.
>
> Here is an example
>
> A buyer purchases an item for $300.00 and pays by Paypal - their fee is
> approx. 12.00
> Buyer changes their mind and requests refund. Seller refunds the $300.00
>
> Paypal still charges the seller 12.00 despite the fact that the
> transaction has been cancelled and the money refunded. This all started in
> Oct last year.
>
>
> Regards
>
> John
>
> John Reid
> Moviemem Original Movie Posters
> www.moviemem.com
> PO Box 92
> Elanora
> Qld 4221
> Australia
> Phone: 0414 720 369
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Helmut
> Hamm
> Sent: 7 September, 2020 9:05 PM
> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
> Subject: Re: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy
>
> Rich,
>
> the ridiculous Paypal fees are not limited to ebay. When somebody sends me
> money and I refund the full amount, Paypal still charges me some kind of
> 'transaction fee'. It's 'only' 40 cents or something, but for an enterprise
> like Paypal it should add up to a nice extra profit.
>
> It seems to me that 'ebay managed payments' is exactly what I expected it
> to be. I'm so glad I closed my ebay shop instead of prolonging my
> subscription for another year. I could use the extra income of course, but
> with all the hassle involved, it's just not worth it.
>
> Helmut
>
>
>
> > Am 07.09.2020 um 10:22 schrieb MPB warehouse :
> >
> > I understand this problem exists, but I have never experienced it myself.
> > Of course... I don't sell... on ebay
> >
> >
> > On 9/7/2020 1:20 AM, John Reid wrote:
> >> Well, actually the problem is exactly the same for pros and casual
> sellers although it is certainly worse on eBay. If someone purchases
> something but changes their mind and wants a refund, the seller refunds the
> money. However, Paypal keeps the original fee that the seller was charged.
> >>
> >> There is no getting around that irrespective of how many transactions
> you make (and I have made many, many thousands through Paypal through my
> website and eBay). This policy is something that was introduced a year ago
> and it is one reason why some of the larger companies no longer accept
> Paypal. I agree that there are a lot of good things about Paypal but this
> policy is not one of them. In fact, many sellers have no idea that the
> policy exists.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >> John Reid
> >> Moviemem Original Movie Posters
> >> www.moviemem.com
> >> PO Box 92
> >> Elanora
> >> Qld 4221
> >> Australia
> >> Phone: 0414 720 369
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of
> >> MPB warehouse
> >> Sent: 7 September, 2020 4:03 PM
> >> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
> >> Subject: Re: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy
> >>
> >> I'm sure this problem is for ebay related sellers, of which too many
> >> just aren't pros and don't know how to handle refunds and the like
> >>
> >> why do I say this?
> >> Because I sold $1000 today from my own website, I'm about to download
> >> the money & it will be in my bank account tomorrow
> >>
> >> I sell stuff on facebook, when I download the money, it's in my
> >> account the next morning
> >>
> >> my experience with Paypal as an overall is top notch with few calls
> >> needed into customer service, and I've been with them since 1998
> >>
> >> Rich
> >>
> >>
> >> On 9/6/2020 6:16 PM, Dale Dilts wrote:
> >>> It's BS, but ebay is going to direct payments and no longer going to
> flow money into paypal shortly, so will no longer deal with that half the
> problem.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> - Original Message -
> >>> From: "John Reid" 
> >>> To: "MoPo-L" 
> >>> Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2020 7:32:35 PM
> >>> Subject: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy
> >>>
> >>> Hi to everyone and hope you are all well in these difficult times
> >>&g

Re: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy

2020-09-07 Thread MPB warehouse 

Helmut

I see ebay fees are just one expense of being in business. If I was 
taking credit cards direct, my costs would be no less.


But I never have any problems with the platform to speak of.

ebay I left in 2005 and I'm happier for it

Rich

On 9/7/2020 4:04 AM, Helmut Hamm wrote:

Rich,

the ridiculous Paypal fees are not limited to ebay. When somebody sends me 
money and I refund the full amount, Paypal still charges me some kind of 
'transaction fee'. It's 'only' 40 cents or something, but for an enterprise 
like Paypal it should add up to a nice extra profit.

It seems to me that 'ebay managed payments' is exactly what I expected it to 
be. I'm so glad I closed my ebay shop instead of prolonging my subscription for 
another year. I could use the extra income of course, but with all the hassle 
involved, it's just not worth it.

Helmut




Am 07.09.2020 um 10:22 schrieb MPB warehouse :

I understand this problem exists, but I have never experienced it myself.
Of course... I don't sell... on ebay


On 9/7/2020 1:20 AM, John Reid wrote:

Well, actually the problem is exactly the same for pros and casual sellers 
although it is certainly worse on eBay. If someone purchases something but 
changes their mind and wants a refund, the seller refunds the money. However, 
Paypal keeps the original fee that the seller was charged.

There is no getting around that irrespective of how many transactions you make 
(and I have made many, many thousands through Paypal through my website and 
eBay). This policy is something that was introduced a year ago and it is one 
reason why some of the larger companies no longer accept Paypal. I agree that 
there are a lot of good things about Paypal but this policy is not one of them. 
In fact, many sellers have no idea that the policy exists.

Regards

John

John Reid
Moviemem Original Movie Posters
www.moviemem.com
PO Box 92
Elanora
Qld 4221
Australia
Phone: 0414 720 369

-Original Message-
From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of MPB warehouse
Sent: 7 September, 2020 4:03 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy

I'm sure this problem is for ebay related sellers, of which too many just 
aren't pros and don't know how to handle refunds and the like

why do I say this?
Because I sold $1000 today from my own website, I'm about to download the money 
& it will be in my bank account tomorrow

I sell stuff on facebook, when I download the money, it's in my account the 
next morning

my experience with Paypal as an overall is top notch with few calls needed into 
customer service, and I've been with them since 1998

Rich


On 9/6/2020 6:16 PM, Dale Dilts wrote:

It's BS, but ebay is going to direct payments and no longer going to flow money 
into paypal shortly, so will no longer deal with that half the problem.



- Original Message -
From: "John Reid" 
To: "MoPo-L" 
Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2020 7:32:35 PM
Subject: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy

Hi to everyone and hope you are all well in these difficult times

   
I am just curious as to what some of the dealers in this group think of Paypal’s refund policy eg:


   
If you need to refund a customer because they changed their mind, made a mistake, thought they were purchasing a video, over paid on postage, etc etc, Paypal refuses to refund the fee on the portion of the refund.


   
I think it is very poor service to keep the fees even when the full amount has been refunded through no fault of the seller. What do you all think?


   
   
Regards


   
John


   
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Re: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy

2020-09-07 Thread Susan Heim 
You are right on John.  I've had customers buy things and pay for it and then 
decide they didn't want it.  Recently a woman purchases a signed Doris Day 
photo from me and bought it and her husband had a fit and made her
cancel the order. It cost me a lot in the paypal fees for something I had no 
control over.  As they said to me, it's the cost of doing 
business...ok

Sue
Hollywood Poster Frames


From: MoPo List  on behalf of John Reid 

Sent: Monday, September 7, 2020 10:46 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy

Hi Helmut
I think this illustrates my concern. Paypal fees are a lot more than 0.40 cents 
for refunds but many sellers are simply not aware of this.

Here is an example

A buyer purchases an item for $300.00 and pays by Paypal - their fee is approx. 
12.00
Buyer changes their mind and requests refund. Seller refunds the $300.00

Paypal still charges the seller 12.00 despite the fact that the transaction has 
been cancelled and the money refunded. This all started in Oct last year.


Regards

John

John Reid
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-Original Message-
From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Helmut Hamm
Sent: 7 September, 2020 9:05 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy

Rich,

the ridiculous Paypal fees are not limited to ebay. When somebody sends me 
money and I refund the full amount, Paypal still charges me some kind of 
'transaction fee'. It's 'only' 40 cents or something, but for an enterprise 
like Paypal it should add up to a nice extra profit.

It seems to me that 'ebay managed payments' is exactly what I expected it to 
be. I'm so glad I closed my ebay shop instead of prolonging my subscription for 
another year. I could use the extra income of course, but with all the hassle 
involved, it's just not worth it.

Helmut



> Am 07.09.2020 um 10:22 schrieb MPB warehouse :
>
> I understand this problem exists, but I have never experienced it myself.
> Of course... I don't sell... on ebay
>
>
> On 9/7/2020 1:20 AM, John Reid wrote:
>> Well, actually the problem is exactly the same for pros and casual sellers 
>> although it is certainly worse on eBay. If someone purchases something but 
>> changes their mind and wants a refund, the seller refunds the money. 
>> However, Paypal keeps the original fee that the seller was charged.
>>
>> There is no getting around that irrespective of how many transactions you 
>> make (and I have made many, many thousands through Paypal through my website 
>> and eBay). This policy is something that was introduced a year ago and it is 
>> one reason why some of the larger companies no longer accept Paypal. I agree 
>> that there are a lot of good things about Paypal but this policy is not one 
>> of them. In fact, many sellers have no idea that the policy exists.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> John
>>
>> John Reid
>> Moviemem Original Movie Posters
>> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.moviemem.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7C960f8848f6e048f0b86208d8537fd510%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637351155783625605sdata=OSHMLc7mTTRA1DaVIF5H6ap9C%2BEogXgEowQzatXBNIs%3Dreserved=0
>> PO Box 92
>> Elanora
>> Qld 4221
>> Australia
>> Phone: 0414 720 369
>>
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of
>> MPB warehouse
>> Sent: 7 September, 2020 4:03 PM
>> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
>> Subject: Re: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy
>>
>> I'm sure this problem is for ebay related sellers, of which too many
>> just aren't pros and don't know how to handle refunds and the like
>>
>> why do I say this?
>> Because I sold $1000 today from my own website, I'm about to download
>> the money & it will be in my bank account tomorrow
>>
>> I sell stuff on facebook, when I download the money, it's in my
>> account the next morning
>>
>> my experience with Paypal as an overall is top notch with few calls
>> needed into customer service, and I've been with them since 1998
>>
>> Rich
>>
>>
>> On 9/6/2020 6:16 PM, Dale Dilts wrote:
>>> It's BS, but ebay is going to direct payments and no longer going to flow 
>>> money into paypal shortly, so will no longer deal with that half the 
>&g

Re: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy

2020-09-07 Thread John Reid 
Hi Helmut
I think this illustrates my concern. Paypal fees are a lot more than 0.40 cents 
for refunds but many sellers are simply not aware of this.

Here is an example

A buyer purchases an item for $300.00 and pays by Paypal - their fee is approx. 
12.00
Buyer changes their mind and requests refund. Seller refunds the $300.00

Paypal still charges the seller 12.00 despite the fact that the transaction has 
been cancelled and the money refunded. This all started in Oct last year.


Regards

John

John Reid
Moviemem Original Movie Posters
www.moviemem.com  
PO Box 92 
Elanora
Qld 4221
Australia
Phone: 0414 720 369


-Original Message-
From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Helmut Hamm
Sent: 7 September, 2020 9:05 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy

Rich,

the ridiculous Paypal fees are not limited to ebay. When somebody sends me 
money and I refund the full amount, Paypal still charges me some kind of 
'transaction fee'. It's 'only' 40 cents or something, but for an enterprise 
like Paypal it should add up to a nice extra profit.

It seems to me that 'ebay managed payments' is exactly what I expected it to 
be. I'm so glad I closed my ebay shop instead of prolonging my subscription for 
another year. I could use the extra income of course, but with all the hassle 
involved, it's just not worth it.

Helmut



> Am 07.09.2020 um 10:22 schrieb MPB warehouse :
> 
> I understand this problem exists, but I have never experienced it myself.
> Of course... I don't sell... on ebay
> 
> 
> On 9/7/2020 1:20 AM, John Reid wrote:
>> Well, actually the problem is exactly the same for pros and casual sellers 
>> although it is certainly worse on eBay. If someone purchases something but 
>> changes their mind and wants a refund, the seller refunds the money. 
>> However, Paypal keeps the original fee that the seller was charged.
>> 
>> There is no getting around that irrespective of how many transactions you 
>> make (and I have made many, many thousands through Paypal through my website 
>> and eBay). This policy is something that was introduced a year ago and it is 
>> one reason why some of the larger companies no longer accept Paypal. I agree 
>> that there are a lot of good things about Paypal but this policy is not one 
>> of them. In fact, many sellers have no idea that the policy exists.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> John Reid
>> Moviemem Original Movie Posters
>> www.moviemem.com
>> PO Box 92
>> Elanora
>> Qld 4221
>> Australia
>> Phone: 0414 720 369
>> 
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of 
>> MPB warehouse
>> Sent: 7 September, 2020 4:03 PM
>> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
>> Subject: Re: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy
>> 
>> I'm sure this problem is for ebay related sellers, of which too many 
>> just aren't pros and don't know how to handle refunds and the like
>> 
>> why do I say this?
>> Because I sold $1000 today from my own website, I'm about to download 
>> the money & it will be in my bank account tomorrow
>> 
>> I sell stuff on facebook, when I download the money, it's in my 
>> account the next morning
>> 
>> my experience with Paypal as an overall is top notch with few calls 
>> needed into customer service, and I've been with them since 1998
>> 
>> Rich
>> 
>> 
>> On 9/6/2020 6:16 PM, Dale Dilts wrote:
>>> It's BS, but ebay is going to direct payments and no longer going to flow 
>>> money into paypal shortly, so will no longer deal with that half the 
>>> problem.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "John Reid" 
>>> To: "MoPo-L" 
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2020 7:32:35 PM
>>> Subject: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy
>>> 
>>> Hi to everyone and hope you are all well in these difficult times
>>> 
>>>   
>>> I am just curious as to what some of the dealers in this group think of 
>>> Paypal’s refund policy eg:
>>> 
>>>   
>>> If you need to refund a customer because they changed their mind, made a 
>>> mistake, thought they were purchasing a video, over paid on postage, etc 
>>> etc, Paypal refuses to refund the fee on the portion of the refund.
>>> 
>>>   
>>> I think it is very poor service to keep the fees even when the full amount 
>>> has been refunded through no fault of the seller. What do you all think?
>>> 
>>>

Re: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy

2020-09-07 Thread Susan Heim 
I spoke with a rep from ebay and they said they had been getting a lot of calls 
on this issue.  However, they explained it away saying many other selling 
venues are doing the same thing.  I just don't see how it can be legal to
charge a fee on the sales tax portion of the sale, plus as a company you don't 
submit sales tax returns daily, think of all the interest they are making on 
that sales tax during the time it's paid and the time they submit it to the 
state.

 So, while it sounds like a lot of people are voicing their complaints, who 
knows what will happen.  Ebay does have a huge and worldwide base and that is 
the key point that
makes it attractive to sellers.  As for paypal, I've never had any issues 
there.  As a matter of fact, when I call, I always get a very professional 
person who helps with any questions I might have.  I can see that they have to 
be
scrambling right now for business since Ebay has pretty much cut them out of 
the payment process, at least here in the U.S.   I've gotten several emails 
from Paypal in the past month suggesting alternative ways to sell using
them for the payment process.

Sue


From: Toochis r 
Sent: Monday, September 7, 2020 3:42 PM
To: Susan Heim 
Cc: MoPo-L@listserv.american.edu 
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy

Wow, what a scam.  Is there a good alternative to ebay?  Does Etsy make sense?

On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 9:01 PM Susan Heim 
mailto:filmfantast...@msn.com>> wrote:
Well, what I think is crazy is that ebay now charges final value fees on sales 
tax as of September 1st

Sue


From: MoPo List 
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Sent: Monday, September 7, 2020 12:32 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU<mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> 
mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>>
Subject: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy


Hi to everyone and hope you are all well in these difficult times



I am just curious as to what some of the dealers in this group think of 
Paypal’s refund policy eg:



If you need to refund a customer because they changed their mind, made a 
mistake, thought they were purchasing a video, over paid on postage, etc etc, 
Paypal refuses to refund the fee on the portion of the refund.



I think it is very poor service to keep the fees even when the full amount has 
been refunded through no fault of the seller. What do you all think?





Regards



John



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Re: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy

2020-09-07 Thread Toochis r 
Wow, what a scam.  Is there a good alternative to ebay?  Does Etsy make
sense?

On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 9:01 PM Susan Heim  wrote:

> Well, what I think is crazy is that ebay now charges final value fees on
> sales tax as of September 1st
>
> Sue
>
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> *Subject:* [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy
>
>
> Hi to everyone and hope you are all well in these difficult times
>
>
>
> I am just curious as to what some of the dealers in this group think of
> Paypal’s refund policy eg:
>
>
>
> If you need to refund a customer because they changed their mind, made a
> mistake, thought they were purchasing a video, over paid on postage, etc
> etc, Paypal refuses to refund the fee on the portion of the refund.
>
>
>
> I think it is very poor service to keep the fees even when the full amount
> has been refunded through no fault of the seller. What do you all think?
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> John
>
>
>
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Re: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy

2020-09-07 Thread Kirby McDaniel 
I wish (in some ways, of course) that I could say that it is not worth it for 
us.  But it is.  

Sue, the word is not "crazy".  It's GREEDY.

It would be more honest, if not less greedy, if they would cut out the TAX-FEE 
and just raise the final value fee percentage.  But that would be a more naked 
money-grab.   If their sellers would push back in sufficient numbers, they 
would cut it out.  But, apparently, they don't. 



Kirby McDaniel
MovieArt.com

> On Sep 7, 2020, at 6:04 AM, Helmut Hamm  wrote:
> 
> Rich,
> 
> the ridiculous Paypal fees are not limited to ebay. When somebody sends me 
> money and I refund the full amount, Paypal still charges me some kind of 
> 'transaction fee'. It's 'only' 40 cents or something, but for an enterprise 
> like Paypal it should add up to a nice extra profit.
> 
> It seems to me that 'ebay managed payments' is exactly what I expected it to 
> be. I'm so glad I closed my ebay shop instead of prolonging my subscription 
> for another year. I could use the extra income of course, but with all the 
> hassle involved, it's just not worth it.
> 
> Helmut
> 
> 
> 
>> Am 07.09.2020 um 10:22 schrieb MPB warehouse :
>> 
>> I understand this problem exists, but I have never experienced it myself.
>> Of course... I don't sell... on ebay
>> 
>> 
>> On 9/7/2020 1:20 AM, John Reid wrote:
>>> Well, actually the problem is exactly the same for pros and casual sellers 
>>> although it is certainly worse on eBay. If someone purchases something but 
>>> changes their mind and wants a refund, the seller refunds the money. 
>>> However, Paypal keeps the original fee that the seller was charged.
>>> 
>>> There is no getting around that irrespective of how many transactions you 
>>> make (and I have made many, many thousands through Paypal through my 
>>> website and eBay). This policy is something that was introduced a year ago 
>>> and it is one reason why some of the larger companies no longer accept 
>>> Paypal. I agree that there are a lot of good things about Paypal but this 
>>> policy is not one of them. In fact, many sellers have no idea that the 
>>> policy exists.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> John Reid
>>> Moviemem Original Movie Posters
>>> www.moviemem.com
>>> PO Box 92
>>> Elanora
>>> Qld 4221
>>> Australia
>>> Phone: 0414 720 369
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of MPB 
>>> warehouse
>>> Sent: 7 September, 2020 4:03 PM
>>> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
>>> Subject: Re: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy
>>> 
>>> I'm sure this problem is for ebay related sellers, of which too many just 
>>> aren't pros and don't know how to handle refunds and the like
>>> 
>>> why do I say this?
>>> Because I sold $1000 today from my own website, I'm about to download the 
>>> money & it will be in my bank account tomorrow
>>> 
>>> I sell stuff on facebook, when I download the money, it's in my account the 
>>> next morning
>>> 
>>> my experience with Paypal as an overall is top notch with few calls needed 
>>> into customer service, and I've been with them since 1998
>>> 
>>> Rich
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 9/6/2020 6:16 PM, Dale Dilts wrote:
>>>> It's BS, but ebay is going to direct payments and no longer going to flow 
>>>> money into paypal shortly, so will no longer deal with that half the 
>>>> problem.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: "John Reid" 
>>>> To: "MoPo-L" 
>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2020 7:32:35 PM
>>>> Subject: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy
>>>> 
>>>> Hi to everyone and hope you are all well in these difficult times
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I am just curious as to what some of the dealers in this group think of 
>>>> Paypal’s refund policy eg:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> If you need to refund a customer because they changed their mind, made a 
>>>> mistake, thought they were purchasing a video, over paid on postage, etc 
>>>> etc, Paypal refuses to refund the fee on the portion of the refund.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I think it is very poor service to keep the fees even when the full am

Re: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy

2020-09-07 Thread Helmut Hamm 
Rich,

the ridiculous Paypal fees are not limited to ebay. When somebody sends me 
money and I refund the full amount, Paypal still charges me some kind of 
'transaction fee'. It's 'only' 40 cents or something, but for an enterprise 
like Paypal it should add up to a nice extra profit.

It seems to me that 'ebay managed payments' is exactly what I expected it to 
be. I'm so glad I closed my ebay shop instead of prolonging my subscription for 
another year. I could use the extra income of course, but with all the hassle 
involved, it's just not worth it.

Helmut



> Am 07.09.2020 um 10:22 schrieb MPB warehouse :
> 
> I understand this problem exists, but I have never experienced it myself.
> Of course... I don't sell... on ebay
> 
> 
> On 9/7/2020 1:20 AM, John Reid wrote:
>> Well, actually the problem is exactly the same for pros and casual sellers 
>> although it is certainly worse on eBay. If someone purchases something but 
>> changes their mind and wants a refund, the seller refunds the money. 
>> However, Paypal keeps the original fee that the seller was charged.
>> 
>> There is no getting around that irrespective of how many transactions you 
>> make (and I have made many, many thousands through Paypal through my website 
>> and eBay). This policy is something that was introduced a year ago and it is 
>> one reason why some of the larger companies no longer accept Paypal. I agree 
>> that there are a lot of good things about Paypal but this policy is not one 
>> of them. In fact, many sellers have no idea that the policy exists.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> John Reid
>> Moviemem Original Movie Posters
>> www.moviemem.com
>> PO Box 92
>> Elanora
>> Qld 4221
>> Australia
>> Phone: 0414 720 369
>> 
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of MPB 
>> warehouse
>> Sent: 7 September, 2020 4:03 PM
>> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
>> Subject: Re: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy
>> 
>> I'm sure this problem is for ebay related sellers, of which too many just 
>> aren't pros and don't know how to handle refunds and the like
>> 
>> why do I say this?
>> Because I sold $1000 today from my own website, I'm about to download the 
>> money & it will be in my bank account tomorrow
>> 
>> I sell stuff on facebook, when I download the money, it's in my account the 
>> next morning
>> 
>> my experience with Paypal as an overall is top notch with few calls needed 
>> into customer service, and I've been with them since 1998
>> 
>> Rich
>> 
>> 
>> On 9/6/2020 6:16 PM, Dale Dilts wrote:
>>> It's BS, but ebay is going to direct payments and no longer going to flow 
>>> money into paypal shortly, so will no longer deal with that half the 
>>> problem.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "John Reid" 
>>> To: "MoPo-L" 
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2020 7:32:35 PM
>>> Subject: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy
>>> 
>>> Hi to everyone and hope you are all well in these difficult times
>>> 
>>>   
>>> I am just curious as to what some of the dealers in this group think of 
>>> Paypal’s refund policy eg:
>>> 
>>>   
>>> If you need to refund a customer because they changed their mind, made a 
>>> mistake, thought they were purchasing a video, over paid on postage, etc 
>>> etc, Paypal refuses to refund the fee on the portion of the refund.
>>> 
>>>   
>>> I think it is very poor service to keep the fees even when the full amount 
>>> has been refunded through no fault of the seller. What do you all think?
>>> 
>>>   
>>>   
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>>   
>>> John
>>> 
>>>   
>>> John Reid
>>> 
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Re: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy

2020-09-07 Thread MPB warehouse 

I understand this problem exists, but I have never experienced it myself.
Of course... I don't sell... on ebay


On 9/7/2020 1:20 AM, John Reid wrote:

Well, actually the problem is exactly the same for pros and casual sellers 
although it is certainly worse on eBay. If someone purchases something but 
changes their mind and wants a refund, the seller refunds the money. However, 
Paypal keeps the original fee that the seller was charged.

There is no getting around that irrespective of how many transactions you make 
(and I have made many, many thousands through Paypal through my website and 
eBay). This policy is something that was introduced a year ago and it is one 
reason why some of the larger companies no longer accept Paypal. I agree that 
there are a lot of good things about Paypal but this policy is not one of them. 
In fact, many sellers have no idea that the policy exists.

Regards

John

John Reid
Moviemem Original Movie Posters
www.moviemem.com
PO Box 92
Elanora
Qld 4221
Australia
Phone: 0414 720 369

-Original Message-
From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of MPB warehouse
Sent: 7 September, 2020 4:03 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy

I'm sure this problem is for ebay related sellers, of which too many just 
aren't pros and don't know how to handle refunds and the like

why do I say this?
Because I sold $1000 today from my own website, I'm about to download the money 
& it will be in my bank account tomorrow

I sell stuff on facebook, when I download the money, it's in my account the 
next morning

my experience with Paypal as an overall is top notch with few calls needed into 
customer service, and I've been with them since 1998

Rich


On 9/6/2020 6:16 PM, Dale Dilts wrote:

It's BS, but ebay is going to direct payments and no longer going to flow money 
into paypal shortly, so will no longer deal with that half the problem.



- Original Message -
From: "John Reid" 
To: "MoPo-L" 
Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2020 7:32:35 PM
Subject: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy

Hi to everyone and hope you are all well in these difficult times

   


I am just curious as to what some of the dealers in this group think of 
Paypal’s refund policy eg:

   


If you need to refund a customer because they changed their mind, made a 
mistake, thought they were purchasing a video, over paid on postage, etc etc, 
Paypal refuses to refund the fee on the portion of the refund.

   


I think it is very poor service to keep the fees even when the full amount has 
been refunded through no fault of the seller. What do you all think?

   

   


Regards

   


John

   


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Re: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy

2020-09-07 Thread John Reid 
Well, actually the problem is exactly the same for pros and casual sellers 
although it is certainly worse on eBay. If someone purchases something but 
changes their mind and wants a refund, the seller refunds the money. However, 
Paypal keeps the original fee that the seller was charged. 

There is no getting around that irrespective of how many transactions you make 
(and I have made many, many thousands through Paypal through my website and 
eBay). This policy is something that was introduced a year ago and it is one 
reason why some of the larger companies no longer accept Paypal. I agree that 
there are a lot of good things about Paypal but this policy is not one of them. 
In fact, many sellers have no idea that the policy exists.

Regards

John

John Reid
Moviemem Original Movie Posters
www.moviemem.com 
PO Box 92 
Elanora
Qld 4221
Australia
Phone: 0414 720 369

-Original Message-
From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of MPB warehouse
Sent: 7 September, 2020 4:03 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy

I'm sure this problem is for ebay related sellers, of which too many just 
aren't pros and don't know how to handle refunds and the like

why do I say this?
Because I sold $1000 today from my own website, I'm about to download the money 
& it will be in my bank account tomorrow

I sell stuff on facebook, when I download the money, it's in my account the 
next morning

my experience with Paypal as an overall is top notch with few calls needed into 
customer service, and I've been with them since 1998

Rich


On 9/6/2020 6:16 PM, Dale Dilts wrote:
> It's BS, but ebay is going to direct payments and no longer going to flow 
> money into paypal shortly, so will no longer deal with that half the problem.
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "John Reid" 
> To: "MoPo-L" 
> Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2020 7:32:35 PM
> Subject: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy
>
> Hi to everyone and hope you are all well in these difficult times
>
>   
>
> I am just curious as to what some of the dealers in this group think of 
> Paypal’s refund policy eg:
>
>   
>
> If you need to refund a customer because they changed their mind, made a 
> mistake, thought they were purchasing a video, over paid on postage, etc etc, 
> Paypal refuses to refund the fee on the portion of the refund.
>
>   
>
> I think it is very poor service to keep the fees even when the full amount 
> has been refunded through no fault of the seller. What do you all think?
>
>   
>
>   
>
> Regards
>
>   
>
> John
>
>   
>
> John Reid
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Re: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy

2020-09-07 Thread MPB warehouse 
I'm sure this problem is for ebay related sellers, of which too many 
just aren't pros and don't know how to handle refunds and the like


why do I say this?
Because I sold $1000 today from my own website, I'm about to download 
the money & it will be in my bank account tomorrow


I sell stuff on facebook, when I download the money, it's in my account 
the next morning


my experience with Paypal as an overall is top notch with few calls 
needed into customer service, and I've been with them since 1998


Rich


On 9/6/2020 6:16 PM, Dale Dilts wrote:

It's BS, but ebay is going to direct payments and no longer going to flow money 
into paypal shortly, so will no longer deal with that half the problem.



- Original Message -
From: "John Reid" 
To: "MoPo-L" 
Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2020 7:32:35 PM
Subject: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy

Hi to everyone and hope you are all well in these difficult times

  


I am just curious as to what some of the dealers in this group think of 
Paypal’s refund policy eg:

  


If you need to refund a customer because they changed their mind, made a 
mistake, thought they were purchasing a video, over paid on postage, etc etc, 
Paypal refuses to refund the fee on the portion of the refund.

  


I think it is very poor service to keep the fees even when the full amount has 
been refunded through no fault of the seller. What do you all think?

  

  


Regards

  


John

  


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Re: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy

2020-09-06 Thread Susan Heim 
So right Todd..and the problem is buyers want you to ship their items 
immediately and the money hasn't even made it to you bank account yet.  It's 
been taking 3 days for ebay to send it to my bank during the weekdays (they
don't do payouts on weekends) and then another 3 days for it to get into my 
bank account.  Now, and I don't see how it can be legal, they are taking final 
value fees on the sales tax of an item.  The seller never even sees the sales
tax as it is collected by ebay.

I spoke with an ebay rep a couple weeks ago because I had a buyer in Ireland 
who was trying to pay for an item she purchased from me and she kept getting an 
error message.  Well, it turns out that many countries aren't part of the
managed payments plan yet so if they bought their item on ebay in their 
country, they can't pay for it unless they log into ebay/u.s. since I am a U.S. 
based sellerthe rep told me that ebay is trying to make all countries part 
of the
managed payments plan but it will take a year or so to implement that.  I've 
already had two international customers that had problems paying for their 
items and both wanted to just cancel the order because it was such a hassle.

Too muchSue - Hollywood Poster Frames


From: Todd 
Sent: Monday, September 7, 2020 4:21 AM
To: Susan Heim ; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 

Subject: Re: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy

Sue is 100% correct!!  Ebay has never done this till recently.

They are now also forcing sellers to be part of this "Managed Payments" scam 
where they now control all of your money so they can hold onto it for days and 
get the interest.

Instead of sellers having instant access to their money from PayPal, that is no 
more.  Ebay will hold onto it and give it back to you in dribs and drabs.  I'm 
suppose to get paid daily but sometimes it takes 5 or 6 days to get paid.

Ebay says "Managed Payments" is so much easier and less expensive for sellers 
but as it turns out, especially now that they're including the Final Value Fee 
on the State Sales Tax, it's more expensive.

Since I was forced to go on "Managed Payments" early last month, I believe that 
is when they started taking the Final Value Fee on the sales tax for me.

Todd


From: MoPo List  on behalf of Susan Heim 

Sent: Monday, September 7, 2020 12:01 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy

Well, what I think is crazy is that ebay now charges final value fees on sales 
tax as of September 1st

Sue


From: MoPo List  on behalf of John Reid 

Sent: Monday, September 7, 2020 12:32 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy


Hi to everyone and hope you are all well in these difficult times



I am just curious as to what some of the dealers in this group think of 
Paypal’s refund policy eg:



If you need to refund a customer because they changed their mind, made a 
mistake, thought they were purchasing a video, over paid on postage, etc etc, 
Paypal refuses to refund the fee on the portion of the refund.



I think it is very poor service to keep the fees even when the full amount has 
been refunded through no fault of the seller. What do you all think?





Regards



John



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Re: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy

2020-09-06 Thread John Reid 
I was also forced to sign up for Managed payments and they have just kicked
in for my two ebay stores. I didn't know about the FVF on Sales Tax but I
guess they will be doing that with all taxes inc GST.

 

 

Regards

 

John

 

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From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Todd
Sent: 7 September, 2020 2:22 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy

 

Sue is 100% correct!!  Ebay has never done this till recently.

 

They are now also forcing sellers to be part of this "Managed Payments" scam
where they now control all of your money so they can hold onto it for days
and get the interest.

 

Instead of sellers having instant access to their money from PayPal, that is
no more.  Ebay will hold onto it and give it back to you in dribs and drabs.
I'm suppose to get paid daily but sometimes it takes 5 or 6 days to get
paid.

 

Ebay says "Managed Payments" is so much easier and less expensive for
sellers but as it turns out, especially now that they're including the Final
Value Fee on the State Sales Tax, it's more expensive.

 

Since I was forced to go on "Managed Payments" early last month, I believe
that is when they started taking the Final Value Fee on the sales tax for
me.

 

Todd 

 

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From: MoPo List mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> > on behalf of Susan Heim
mailto:filmfantast...@msn.com> >
Sent: Monday, September 7, 2020 12:01 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU <mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>
mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> >
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy 

 

Well, what I think is crazy is that ebay now charges final value fees on
sales tax as of September 1st

 

Sue

 

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Hi to everyone and hope you are all well in these difficult times

 

I am just curious as to what some of the dealers in this group think of
Paypal's refund policy eg:

 

If you need to refund a customer because they changed their mind, made a
mistake, thought they were purchasing a video, over paid on postage, etc
etc, Paypal refuses to refund the fee on the portion of the refund. 

 

I think it is very poor service to keep the fees even when the full amount
has been refunded through no fault of the seller. What do you all think?

 

 

Regards

 

John

 

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Re: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy

2020-09-06 Thread Todd 
Sue is 100% correct!!  Ebay has never done this till recently.

They are now also forcing sellers to be part of this "Managed Payments" scam 
where they now control all of your money so they can hold onto it for days and 
get the interest.

Instead of sellers having instant access to their money from PayPal, that is no 
more.  Ebay will hold onto it and give it back to you in dribs and drabs.  I'm 
suppose to get paid daily but sometimes it takes 5 or 6 days to get paid.

Ebay says "Managed Payments" is so much easier and less expensive for sellers 
but as it turns out, especially now that they're including the Final Value Fee 
on the State Sales Tax, it's more expensive.

Since I was forced to go on "Managed Payments" early last month, I believe that 
is when they started taking the Final Value Fee on the sales tax for me.

Todd


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Subject: Re: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy

Well, what I think is crazy is that ebay now charges final value fees on sales 
tax as of September 1st

Sue


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Sent: Monday, September 7, 2020 12:32 AM
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Subject: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy


Hi to everyone and hope you are all well in these difficult times



I am just curious as to what some of the dealers in this group think of 
Paypal’s refund policy eg:



If you need to refund a customer because they changed their mind, made a 
mistake, thought they were purchasing a video, over paid on postage, etc etc, 
Paypal refuses to refund the fee on the portion of the refund.



I think it is very poor service to keep the fees even when the full amount has 
been refunded through no fault of the seller. What do you all think?





Regards



John



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Re: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy

2020-09-06 Thread Susan Heim 
Well, what I think is crazy is that ebay now charges final value fees on sales 
tax as of September 1st

Sue


From: MoPo List  on behalf of John Reid 

Sent: Monday, September 7, 2020 12:32 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy


Hi to everyone and hope you are all well in these difficult times



I am just curious as to what some of the dealers in this group think of 
Paypal’s refund policy eg:



If you need to refund a customer because they changed their mind, made a 
mistake, thought they were purchasing a video, over paid on postage, etc etc, 
Paypal refuses to refund the fee on the portion of the refund.



I think it is very poor service to keep the fees even when the full amount has 
been refunded through no fault of the seller. What do you all think?





Regards



John



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Re: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy

2020-09-06 Thread Kirby McDaniel 
I thought it abusive, and we told Paypal so.

Kirby McDaniel

> On Sep 6, 2020, at 8:16 PM, Dale Dilts  wrote:
> 
> It's BS, but ebay is going to direct payments and no longer going to flow 
> money into paypal shortly, so will no longer deal with that half the problem. 
>  
> 
> 
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> - Original Message -
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> To: "MoPo-L"  >
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> Subject: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy
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> Hi to everyone and hope you are all well in these difficult times
> 
> 
> 
> I am just curious as to what some of the dealers in this group think of 
> Paypal’s refund policy eg:
> 
> 
> 
> If you need to refund a customer because they changed their mind, made a 
> mistake, thought they were purchasing a video, over paid on postage, etc etc, 
> Paypal refuses to refund the fee on the portion of the refund. 
> 
> 
> 
> I think it is very poor service to keep the fees even when the full amount 
> has been refunded through no fault of the seller. What do you all think?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> John Reid
> 
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Re: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy

2020-09-06 Thread Dale Dilts 
It's BS, but ebay is going to direct payments and no longer going to flow money 
into paypal shortly, so will no longer deal with that half the problem.  



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From: "John Reid" 
To: "MoPo-L" 
Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2020 7:32:35 PM
Subject: [MOPO] Paypal's refund policy

Hi to everyone and hope you are all well in these difficult times

 

I am just curious as to what some of the dealers in this group think of 
Paypal’s refund policy eg:

 

If you need to refund a customer because they changed their mind, made a 
mistake, thought they were purchasing a video, over paid on postage, etc etc, 
Paypal refuses to refund the fee on the portion of the refund. 

 

I think it is very poor service to keep the fees even when the full amount has 
been refunded through no fault of the seller. What do you all think?

 

 

Regards

 

John

 

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