[Marsha] I don't think it is possible for an individual to know/experience the
entire pattern 'all-that-is-opposite-from-non-P' either, only parts of the
pattern,
some individuals knowing more than others. The cloud of probability
would be where the densest portion of the cloud represents
Greetings again Dan,
On Jun 9, 2011, at 1:35 AM, MarshaV wrote:
On Jun 8, 2011, at 11:55 PM, Dan Glover wrote:
Hello everyone
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 5:07 PM, david buchanan dmbucha...@hotmail.com
wrote:
Marsha said:
...at the moment, I think the best answer would be:
On Jun 9, 2011, at 2:18 AM, craig...@comcast.net wrote:
[Marsha]
I don't think it is possible for an individual to know/experience the entire
pattern 'all-that-is-opposite-from-non-P' either, only parts of the pattern,
some individuals knowing more than others. The cloud of probability
Hello Mark,
On Jun 8, 2011, at 11:48 PM, 118 wrote:
Hi Marsha,
I was trying to understand what you mean by process. I suppose this
could be considered static since gravitation is fixed at a particular
time. It is my understanding that gravity represents the attraction
of one thing
Hi All
Adam Curtis have made a brilliant series of TV shows at BBC recently
broadcasted (May 23, 30 and June 6 2011).
You can follow it on Youtube. Episode 1 starts here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz2j3BhL47c. I am not really sure about ep. 3
but it can probably be found on the net
Hi Craig,
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 8:01 PM, craig...@comcast.net wrote:
[Harris]
the concept of free will is a non- starter, both philosophically and
scientifically. thoughts, moods, and desires of every sort simply spring
into view—and move us,
or fail to move us, for reasons that are,
dmb quoted both of Pirsig's books:
Definitions are the FOUNDATION of reason. You can't reason without them.
(Emphasis is Pirsig's. ZAMM, page 214.)
A metaphysics must be divisible, definable and knowable, or there isn't any
metaphysics. (Pirsig in Lila, page 64.)
Dan replied:
Exactly.
Hi Mark,
No! I prefer to keep psychology and metaphysics as separate disciplines.
On 6/8/11 8:40 PM, 118 ununocti...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Joe,
I would take this a step further and say that psychology is a
metaphysics. Would you agree?
Mark
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Joseph
Sam Harris is still going on about free will. I guess he can't control himself:
http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/you-do-not-choose-what-you-choose/
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[Craig, previously]
Suppose I find a wallet with ID. I might keep it. But as I deliberate, I
feel guilty decide to return the wallet. Then I rationalize: the
owner was careless, why should I do them any favors?
[Steve] You aren't reading carefully. What
Harris says is inscrutible
On 6/8/11 8:32 PM, 118 ununocti...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Joe,
What you present does not make much sense to me.
Hi Mark,
I'm sorry my writing is opaque.
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Joseph Maurer jh...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi Ham,
Writing it down does not make it so. The individual
Craig:
Harris is at a tremendous disadvantage in this debate. He must argue
that of all the billions of people who have ever lived on earth, none
of them at any time in their life, exercised free will. I only have
to argue that there was one case.
Steve:
No, examples and counter-examples won't
On 6/8/11 4:43 PM, 118 ununocti...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Joe,
The dynamic does not manifest, it IS.
Hi Mark,
I suppose there can be an unmanifest dynamic, but then how would I know?
Words are useless in terms of the dynamic as you have correctly pointed out.
If you take away words and
On 6/8/11 8:25 PM, 118 ununocti...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Joseph Maurer jh...@comcast.net wrote:
Mark,
You are posting on a site that accepts a DQ/SQ formulation for reality.
It's alright to say that the MOQ is nonsensical, to provoke a further
discussion of
[Einstein] Man can do what he will but he cannot will
what he wills).
If it is true that woman/man can do what s/he will,
this is sufficient for free will. Craig
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