Re: [MD] John Carl

2014-05-20 Thread Ian Glendinning
Phew! On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 4:49 AM, Dan Glover daneglo...@gmail.com wrote: John, I for one am glad they didn't run you off. I enjoy our discussions even if we don't agree. I think it's good to examine these differences of opinion and helps to build a more solid foundation for the MOQ.

Re: [MD] John Carl

2014-05-20 Thread david
John L. McConnell said: ...But David, although I have respected your scholarship, your intelligence, your insights, and most of all your friendship and high regard for Dr. Pirisg, I have failed to find tolerance, empathy, compassion, or any other basis for dialogue with you. Right thinking

Re: [MD] John Carl

2014-05-20 Thread Ron Kulp
I can understand the frustration And there seems to be a bit more History behind the exchange between John, Ant and Dave that most of us are unaware of ...having said that.. Intellectualism, that project started By the ancient Greeks, is in serious trouble in current western culture. Like any

Re: [MD] John Carl

2014-05-20 Thread david
Ron said: ...Like any problem, one must school themselves in the history and context of the difficulty in order to successfully come to an adequate solution. For example if a tech forum for motorcycles, let's say Harley Davidson cycles (they are particular beasts in the engine world) was

Re: [MD] John Carl

2014-05-20 Thread John Carl
I don't know how the idea that I'm anti-intellectual got started. I might be a bit anti-academic because I see the same problems that I quoted from ZAMM - the system of authority tends to warp the professors and turn what SHOULD be an intellectual debate into a social kiss-ass party. If you

Re: [MD] Art fine art

2014-05-20 Thread Robert Warlov
Talk about devolution! Or is it decadence? I know you are all good men. I hope everyone here will soon take up again that noble mantel, Namely, to discover what's best. I have to apologize for my suggestion that art was the next evolutionary pattern to arise from intellect. It's wrong. Art is

Re: [MD] John Carl

2014-05-20 Thread ARLO JAMES BENSINGER JR
[DMB] The substance of the complaints against John's assertions with respect to intellectual values is that John can maintain his anti-intellectualism only by ignoring the distinction between the problem (SOM) and the solution (MOQ). John keeps treating intellectual values as they exist in the

Re: [MD] Post-Intellectualism

2014-05-20 Thread Dan Glover
John, On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 1:49 PM, John Carl ridgecoy...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dan, It's been a busy weekend, getting the place cleaned up for guests for Sarah's wedding. Dan: A wedding! That's wonderful! I love weddings, as long as it isn't mine. :-) Congratulations! On Sat, May 17,