Re: [MD] Proposed Wiki definiton of SOM

2014-02-03 Thread John Carl
Dave B., Well Ian didn't think it was so bad. On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 1:40 PM, david dmbucha...@hotmail.com wrote: John said to Ian: To be perfectly honest, I snagged the definition from Wiki on Philosophical Realism and substituted SOM for the term everywhere it appeared in the wiki

Re: [MD] Proposed Wiki definiton of SOM

2014-02-02 Thread david
John said to Ian: To be perfectly honest, I snagged the definition from Wiki on Philosophical Realism and substituted SOM for the term everywhere it appeared in the wiki article. My aim, as you can imagine, was to get some feedback on the idea that SOM and Philosophical Realism are one and the

Re: [MD] Proposed Wiki definiton of SOM

2014-01-31 Thread Ian Glendinning
Hi John, Ah, that would explain nuanced - written by a committee. Could do better. Ian On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 5:21 PM, John Carl ridgecoy...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Ian, To be perfectly honest, I snagged the definition from Wiki on Philosophical Realism and substituted SOM for the term

Re: [MD] Proposed Wiki definiton of SOM

2014-01-31 Thread John Carl
I hope so! what improvements exactly do you suggest? (besides emphasizing our reality?) And isn't the similarity of understanding for the philosophical term significant? J On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 2:46 AM, Ian Glendinning ian.glendinn...@gmail.comwrote: Hi John, Ah, that would explain

Re: [MD] Proposed Wiki definiton of SOM

2014-01-28 Thread John Carl
Thanks Ian, To be perfectly honest, I snagged the definition from Wiki on Philosophical Realism and substituted SOM for the term everywhere it appeared in the wiki article. My aim, as you can imagine, was to get some feedback on the idea that SOM and Philosophical Realism are one and the same.

[MD] Proposed Wiki definiton of SOM

2014-01-27 Thread John Carl
SOM is the belief that our reality, or some aspect of it, is ontologically independent of our conceptual schemes, perceptions, linguistic practices, beliefs, etc. SOM may be spoken of with respect to other minds, the past, the future, universals, mathematical entities (such as natural numbers),

Re: [MD] Proposed Wiki definiton of SOM

2014-01-27 Thread Ian Glendinning
Hi John, I think that's a little too nuanced. Not wrong just need something snappier before all the qualified examples. For example, first sentence - the our is so much more important than reality. Great start though. Lets work on a definitive sentence - says the man who abhors definitions :-)